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Isn't it now time to deport Dodi Fayed - he has already been refused British citizenship because of his character and now as a guest in the country criticises everything. His completely unfounded insults and accusations against the Royal family should spell the last straw and he should be put on his bike back to Egypt.
I'm in FULL agreement with you, graham casey. Mohamed al-Fayed has shown no evidence that his claims have any real validity. It's fully understandable that he's a grieving father, but it seems time he put his son, Diana, and the conspiracy theories to rest.
It's all grist to the mill for the conspiracy theorists, but, in reality, who cares?
#3 Deport Dodi Fayed??
Graham Casey & SteverB: sad ! sad!!. So called civilized people can still stomach up their "Bias", "Bias". Graham may have forgotten what happen to some in "the UK" 200's so years ago.Were you one of them, that were sent away for "not behaving themselves".!!!! (Laugh please , no offense meant)Take objective look please. Now can't we follow the money and find out how Hendi Paul had that amount of money? Should be easy or are we still "not that capable"?Secondly, I believe in God. Is n't possible God took Diana away as it was "kind of best for her and all concerned". Irrespective of other factor, is n't commen sense to conclude, if that day that driver wasn't drunk and over -speeding, this accident may not have happened , and even it happened the impact and consequences would not have been this severe?
Let us respect the princes and put this to rest. Those of us who have lost loved one(s) know how much pain it costs to be reminded day in day out.
Prior to the report being released there was every chance that it could have been a hit. However, now that we have conclusive evidence which outlines the actual events, it is time to put it to bed.
Muhammed Al Fayed does a lot of good things for the British economy. People the world over visit Harrods and he contributes massively to the economy. For that he must be respected, but his claims of murder are unfounded.
It would be good for this topic to meet its end, but you and I both know that we will be watching documentaries about it when we are in our 80's. Even then, we will probably have those who support the conspiracy theories.
Its like JFK all over again.
I agree there will be people making documentaries about this woman's death for many years.I get the feeling that it's not acceptable that a woman who was very special to many, died in a rather mundane way .... drunk driver / car crash !.
A bit different from the JFK situation ..... how can you explain away that magic bullet ??.
The Harrods guy will pursue the conspiracy line as he has little else to do with his time .... a sad man indeed...... I feel a bit sorry for him.
To all those saying Al-Fayed should be deported, where is your compassion? He lost his son in a very dubious "crash" and even if all the conspiracy theories are incorrect, and I use the word "if" very deliberately, then he has still suffered a great deal and I think should be forgiven for lashing out.
Secondly, to all those swallowing this enquiry (opinion?) without question, let me ask you something. Why did they appoint lord stevens? Admittedly a very experienced policeman and investigator, but hardly an independant figure. This is a man who has been part of the establishment for years.
This reminds me of the hutton inquiry. The word white wash springs to mind. To date, I believe there has been NO Independant testing of the forensics. Lord stevens says there is no evidence that the blood or body of henri paul was switched. I arent so sure. Lord stevens reconfirms the data about his alcoholic level but as of yet there has been no accounting for the level of carbon dioxide in his blood which many experts say would have rendered him unable to walk let alone drive a car.
In conclusion, when I first heard the news I immediately thought it was a hit. With the passing of time I am slowly turning away from that view but this inquiry doesnt help extinguish the doubts in my opinion. The real tragedy in all this is the continued suffering of the princes and mr fayed. I hope time will bring them peace.
Lady Di was a money grabbing fake celebrity. She never showed real pedigree preferring parties to hard work.
She is dead, it is over lets stop treating her like some kind of angel, this she most certainly wasn't. I for one am sick fed up with all this Lady Di crap.
I can think of better ways of killing someone than ramming them into the 13th pillar at high speed without seatbelts. All a little bit implausible to be a "hit" unless as #7 says the Royal family had a friend in high places but quite frankly I don't know why he would bother helping them as they have never done much to push his agenda from what I can see. I think El Fayed is perfectly entitled to say what he has said and no doubt will continue to say and Diana's two sons have no right to stop him or ask him to stop, ...... I think he knew his son better than they knew their mother.
#5 Spot on again Guga, you're on the ball this morning!
Can we now hear the last of this selfish shallow woman who turned everything she touched into self-publicity and ruined many other peoples' lives?
Hopefully this story will be put to rest. But as it is in the news, I would like to enphasize again, that seat belts were not worn by the occupants and if they had been the outcome might have been so different.
Conservative (#15) - Diana ruined many other people's lives? - whose?
Suspect that this will be the UK's JFK. It will never go away.
Can't wait for the film version staring Cameron Diaz and Denzil Washington.
SW #18.
I think you could be right ...... and the casting very accurate !!.But how will Hollywood play down the English part of the story to concentrate on her American roots ?.
It doesn't matter how much evidence plainly states otherwise, there will always be people who prefer to live in the land of make believe.
Just look at how many people believe in God..!
I also recall that the last time I was in a car going through that tunnel there was a drunken frenchman at the wheel. I'm not saying that all the french are like that as I love the people and the country but it's just to illustrate that it must be a fairly common occurrence...
Henri Paul's Money in the Bank? Hey, come on guys, he was high profile chauffeur/whatever. Bet he knew where to acquire *anything* his bosses wanted, and, hey, tips come in handy... and you don't think he'd tell the French IRS, do you?
and, #20, I had heard through the grapevine about the 'queues' at the time.
9I agree with you! Now theres a first.
YOu are correct,this will never be put completely to rest,but it should be.There is no evidence to support a conspiracy,even if there ever was any,(and Im not saying that there was).I understand the grieving father bit,but I equally agree that the two Princes do not need constant reminding of this.Stop this story .If I want history Ill buy a history book.THats not the reason I buy a newspaper.
Lets face it if she had lived on a council estate they would have called her a slapper.....
It's over lets move on thousands of innocents are dying with no comeback can we have the same kind of money spent on an investigation on the conning of the british public by Campbell and bLiar...........
Should be put to rest as it was an accident.It was an accident waiting to happen the day she married a thirty something going on 50 when she at 19 had nothing in common with him.Let it go and let`s move on.
#19She would be the secret child of JFK and Marilyn Monroe, played by Reece Witherspoon.
See you on the grassy knoll
"Bloodstains found in the wreckage, identified as those of the Princess of Wales, were also tested and showed no sign of the pregnancy hormone."
"There had been no reason to test for pregnancy and a burial certificate had been granted."
These two statements from the above report don't add up.
Was Diana pregnant - No????
If there here was no reason to test for pregnancyThen why were blood stains tested?If no test was done because there was no reason to believe she was pregnant, then one cannot categorically state she was not pregnant when no test was done.On the other hand, if a test was done, then why was it done, IF there was no reason to suspect she was pregnant. If the test was done, there must have been some reason to suspect she was pregnant.Get real.And the camera above the tunnel entrance was not turned off. A photo exists but you cannot see the people in the back of the car.Priscurl
That it has taken almost ten years and STILL their has been no inquiry in this country into her suspicious death confirms there was a cover up going on then and continues today.Hands up all those who thought that if MI6 is involved then they were going to hand over that documented evidence to Lord Stevens "inquiry"There was more chance of that happening than Stevens getting to the truth.
28. Priscurl.
The comments are entirely consistent. At the time the blood stains were not tested. They WERE tested as part of this report precisely BECAUSE Fayed lied about her being pregnant, as he lied about her supposed 'last words'.
The camera WAS turned off at around 11-00pm as routine - this photo you allege exists - can I see it please? If you can't see the occupants how do you know it was them?
Get a grip. This is planet Earth, not the Starship Phantasia. TYou are no better than Fayed - you need to see conspiracies were there is simple confusion, you invent them where there is NO confusion, and you attempt to blame the Shadows for every ill you experience.
Paul Henri was drunk at the time and on prescription medicine. The route he took was a LAST MINUTE CHANGE, so NOBODY knew what road they would be on apart from the drunken driver. Neither of the passengers was wearing a seat-belt.
Simple as that. Drunk driver, no seat belt, 65mpg down a subway dodging highly temperamental photographers who mad e NO attempt to help with the crash but simply took more photos like the blood-sucking leeches they are.
Oh dear, ow sad, never mind....can we get backl to reality now please?
If this was a murder plot it could have been so simply foiled ........ if the occupants of the car had been wearing seatbelts.
Diana was thrown forward and came to rest with her head between the 2 front seats and sustained fatal injuries. If she had been wearing a seatbelt her body would not have been thrown forward with the extreme force that it was.
She would have probably survived ....... The reality is that this was an accident, some people just cannot accept that something so mundane could have killed someone so rich and famous.
Time to lay her to rest and let her sons and family find some peace without the constant carping and speculation which is totally unfounded.
Interestingly, many of the people who are most fervently behind the murder conspriacy have either published books about it or are in the process of doing so. Money is the motivation behind much of this and the understandable grief of a father who lost his son in an accident that all the millions they had did not prevent.
Let the dead rest in peace.
Curious that no-one ever mentions the body guard who survived!! Why has he disappeared off the radar and never been asked what happened that night?
abbey @ 32
Not quite off the radar........ he has published a book entitled "The Bodyguard's Story: Diana, the Crash and the Sole Survivor" by Trevor Rhys Jones.
I've read it and he says the crash was an accident. Have a look at any of the online book seller's for copies.
Whatever anyone may think about conspiracy theories, everyone seems to have forgotten that the only person to get out of that wreak alive (albeit with head injuries) was wearing a seatbelt!
Listened to Lord Stevens report on tv - didnt make a lot of sense
'we went to MI5 reviewed the files and there was no plot to kill the princess'
just how many memos would be lying around in MI5 saying 'yes we are involved - lets kill Princess Di' it is a very naiive statement to make.
the other statement that Prince William would know about whether his mother was abvout to get engaged to Dodi is also a bit weak - he was a 13year old boy - how many mothers go into detail about their relationships with their kids??
Im not sure if there was a plot to kill the Princess but there are many unanswered questions about french authorities being told to embalm her body illegally before taking her back to the UK - which would mean subsquent pregnancy tests etc would be useless.
I dont think the report proves or disproves anything and there will always be suspicion over her death.
her clairvoyant is now working for Gordon Brown, I am told.
the poor girl met with an accident and still the fuss goes on, but who will care about the murders which happen in the streets to ordinary folks, for just a mobile phone and a few quid.
so a woman and a man got in a car with a drunk driver, didnt' put their seat belts on and got killed - shouldn't we be using this high profile story for public education?If I was an insurance company looking at this case I'd be pushing that they were partly responisble for their own deaths and therefore it was not a "tragic accident!Lets draw a line under this - those who still believe that there was a plot will believe that till the last days of earth and no amount of evidence or public money will chnage that!
The Princes advisors have advised that they advice the media & public to stop advising them.
More to the point harry is a 2Lt army officer and should have been at work on Thursday when he was getting briefed by Charles. He's a junior officer & public servant, get back to work.
How different it could all have been if she had lived.
Engaged to Dodi.Pregnant to Dodi.Possible marriage to Dodi.With above would see New in laws.Princes have new stepfather & step granddad (MOHAMED Al-Fayed).Prince Charles, future head of state & church with divorcee status.Through marriage the Princes could get dual nationality to Egypt?Her trust would not have gone bust.V.Beckham, (not remotely posh) would lose more headlines & weight.Etc….
Still would like to know more info from the Brit body guard Rhys Jones.
#33 Joanna, many thanks for the info, Having worked with TRJ in 2005 I know for a fact that he had a ghost writer, he was only a lance corporal in the Para's & he's not that intelligent & lacks authority.
How he was Diana's bodyguard I really don’t know. I can't see him advising her that a drunk can’t drive her; he would not have stood up to Dodi. The selection of bodyguard is suspicious; a better choice could have saved her.
The problem is that by and large the public have lost trust and confidence in the "Establishment". This whole report hangs on the credibility of the reporter. A conspiracy theory culture doesn't help.For example, it could easily be said that any "conspirators" would be aware that Diana and Dodi would habitually not wear a seat belt...
What a waste of money the Stevens Enquiry was. The same conclusions, which were rather predictable, could have reached by me for a fraction of the price.
I don't know why they even bothered having an enquiry. Either it was an accident as appears to be quite likely, or it was a murder in which case there is no way an enquiry by the establishment is ever going to reveal the truth.
I don't rally care what the real story is, but I can't remember when an enquiry ever laid blame at anyone in high office - the cash for honours scandal will be the same, just watch Teflon Tony deflect the blame on to some minion.
To all who have said "let Diana and Dodi rest in peace" - well said. To all who have alluded to the less-than-ladylike comportment of the late Princess, get a life, stop trying to draw attention to yourselves, and prove your ridiculous and flagrantly loutish claims. Let us remember that her former husband, the Prince of Wales, was having an illicit affair with a divorced woman BEFORE Diana ever "strayed" herself. Neither of them were right in what they did, but would you have sat home, knowing your husband/wife was out having sex with someone else, and simply wait for them to come home, and then simply forget about it as if it never happened? I doubt it VERY seriously - so shut up and grow up, and leave these people to rest in peace. Oh yes, and to the IDIOT who doesn't believe in God - what do you pray to, your PC?
For Christ sake...sooo many paople here are mourning louder than the berieved...Is it soo hard to let the family mourn in peace?
With all this stories and counter conspiracy theories a buzz, how about those soooo concerned about the truth honor Diana and articulate what she stood for like ANTI-LAND MINES, OPPOSING THE SUFFERING OF WOMEN IN DAFUR???
Blame the French they are good lovers but poor investigators.
Would all those who persist in calling Dodi AL-Fayed please desist? It is an honourific assumed by Mohammed Fayed to somehow gentrify his low origins and make himself appear not to be the jumped-up peasant that he is.
Even the Archbishop of Canterbury of the time at Princess Diana's funeral referred to the son as "Dodi Fayed". And when I saw the owner of Harrod's stumbling into Westminster Abbey my only thought that this was, thankfully, the first and last time he would DARE to be in that hallowed and royal place.
I wonder if he has gotten over the removal of the royal warrants from the facade of Harrod's because of indifference and non-usage by the royal household.
The goods and trinkets on sale at Harrod's are over-priced and sometimes truly kitschy and tasteless. But ... the food halls are an experience to be savoured.
The royal princes should be allowed to enjoy the rest of their lives without reminders of their mother's horrifying end but the head shopkeeper of Harrod's has arrogantly proclaimed that he will go to his grave funding his millions into supporting his misplaced and misguided conspiracy theories.
An interesting nugget in the report was that in the famous note purportedly penned by Diana stating she was in fear of her life, she did not say the path was to be made clear for Charles to marry Mrs Parker Bowles, but names another woman!
Let those who comment on Diana's personal life reflect on the much greater protection Charles has of his.
Jockyw @ 41
Trevor Rees Jones was actually employed by the Fayed family ...... not the Princess. She had dispensed with her Met police bodyguards after her divorce. This was her own decision as she, apparently, found them too intrusive and thought they were spying on her.
The bodyguard's book is a good read as is the book by her Private Secretary, Patrick Jephson.
I met the Princess twice ...... the first time shortly in the late 80s ..... she was vibrant, lovely and friendly. The second time was after her separation from Charles and she seemed much more pressured and fragile.
To those people who criticise her ...... she could have spent her life just doing the bare minimum but she gave a lot of her time for others and helped people in private ways. Leave her alone, she is entitled to privacy and respect in death, as are we all.
One word: Dodi
I thought Americans had a conspiracy complex!! This is not complicated. Drunk driving plus no seat belt plus high speeds equal injury and death.
For Gods sake let it go.
#53 and #54 and others:
Any independent tests carried out with the samples? No. Why wont the 'establishment" allow this?
If the samples are legitimate then what of the carbon monoxide levels in the blood? So high that henri paul would not able to even walk to the car let alone drive it. This so far has not been explained.
Mr Fayed is a man grieving for his son. This country values free speech, yes subject to libel and slander laws, but free speech nonetheless. The establishment figures wont sue as then Mr Fayed would have a much easier time getting access to important forensics and then to be able to have them assessed independently.
Do I think there was a conspiracy to kill diana and/or Dodi? I used to be certain but these days I am much less so. One question though, if you want a completely open, vigorous, independent inquiry which would finally shut up the conspiracy theories, why appoint lord stevens? A man of immense experience but very widely perceived as a man of the "establishment."
They should have picked a judge. A judge with a history of making waves, of not kow-towing the easy, establishment line. If that judge could then not find any evidence of malice then there would be less suspicion. No one could utter the words "establishment cover-up"
Ist I agree with 31, 46 & all say, Let the dead rest in peace.2d We who speak English as a 1st language have an inordinate love of speculating about conspiracies & are 1st rate at conspiring. Look at our history. Maybe it's in our genes.3d When you're tempted to accuse the Princes Wm & Harry of not behaving as princes should, consider that they are organizing a memorial concert in memory of their mother, Princess Di. These two men are adding luster to the title of Prince by this act. Bad cess to those who disagree. Let the dead rest in peace. Honour the Princes for this instance of honourable conduct.
I do wish they'd let the poor woman die and get it over with. Her sons don't want to hear it anymore and neither do I.
There was no conspiracy. The real cause of the accident that killed Diana and Dodi was the paparazzi - the fact that the driver may have been unfit to drive was a secondary issue. If they had not ben fleeing the baying media pack the accident would never have happened. Put the blame where it really lies.
We all have a part to play in this killing, for this is surely what it was.Why is the link to Mohamed Al Fayed's website disenabled from the Scotsman? If anyone wants to see it is http://www.alfayed.com/. See, its easy to find on google. Certain things cannot be covered up. This is not the last we will hear about this major cover up. Something else is about to break.Things that dont make sense never rest in peace, there are too many of us that believe.
Isn't it time to put this story to rest. Many people have been hurt in the process, sons, fathers, parents. One can speculate forever, but it will never diminish the respect one can feel for a brave, beautiful young innovator who was the wife of the king to be. Let her and her loved ones and those associated with her rest finally in peace. They will always be remembered for how they lived, not how they died.