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scottwebb.co.uk,

11/12/2006 03:20:20

B17

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Guga,

Rockall 11/12/2006 03:24:31

It is likely that such treatment will be available in just about every other western country before it is made available here. Our government will claim that it costs too much, though not as much as, for example, the £4 to £5 billion already spent fighting illegal wars, and the £1 billion spent on Blair's dome.

So, unless you're very wealthy, don't expect any treatment for at least another 30 to 40 years - unless the voters in this country get their act together and stop voting for the same old party hacks, and start voting for people who will have the interests of the population as a priority.

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jj,

11/12/2006 07:20:11

Blair and Brown also agreed to give the EU £1billion each year (of taxpayers' money)when they rashly handed back the rebate that Mrs Thatcher negotiated. This could have been sensibly spent in other areas like health and offering cancer treatments.

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Big J,

Dundee 11/12/2006 08:02:06

The use of radiation to "cure" cancer doesn't work, we all know it gives at most a couple of years of additional life. The history of radiation "cures" for cancer is an interesting one. Radiation usually gfives massive initial reductions in cancer growth but of course not only does the original cancer resurge the radiation helps cause more cancer. At the time Marie Curie et al were developing these sorts of things (she died of cancer of course) other doctors had noticed that people who became severely infected but lived after simply having cancer surgically removed, the main way of dealing with it in those days, usually remained free of cancer thereafter but those who didn't get infected usually died of cancer eventually. Some doctors then started infecting the sites of cancer with faeces etc using needles without even operating and provided the injections were frequent and the patients were looked after during the inevitable fevers and the treatment was continued for a few weeks many of these patients went into complete remission. But as it was a time consuming method and anyone could do it, no money in it in other words, it died out as a treatment. Nothing changes it seems, don't waste any more government funds on ridiculous "toys for the boys/girls", invest instead in treatments such as the above that have been shown to work.

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Mev Brown,

Southhouse, Edinburgh 11/12/2006 08:47:13

Readers might also be interested in the gamma knife, which was developed in the 80's and used in the 90's in the states, there are now 210 sites worldwide:

http://www.gammaknife.org.uk/

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Ctinj,

Alloa 11/12/2006 08:55:30

My mum suffers from facial cancer in 2002 which was successfully treated. However, it came back in almost a year ago and even more radical surgery was required. She now looks very different to what she used to, but to us she's still mum and we love here dearly.

I have the greatest respect for the doctors and surgens who treated her as they have done an amazing job and tried to ensure that any scars followed the natural contours of her face.

However, this sort of treatment would have been fantastic for the those, like mum, who suffer from cancers that can cause disfigurement. Lets have it over here as soon as possible.

To Tony and Gordon, who will lavishly spend billions fighting a war that no one felt we should be involved in, pull our troops out of these areas, and spend the money saved on bombs on investing in technology such as this in our hopsitals. Lets put Britian first for once.

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Repton,

edinburgh 11/12/2006 10:51:47

About time too.Have always felt that the so called cures were sort of witch doctorish.

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Repton,

edinburgh 11/12/2006 10:55:34

Completely agree with comment 6.I`m afraid all governments have been the same.We need a government who put us first,not blowing money on futile wars and handouts to foreign countries.

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conspiracy,

edinburgh 11/12/2006 12:34:18

1. scottwebb.co.uk
B17
? whats a bomber got to do with cancer,or even a cure for cancer. it may cause cancer but certainly dont cure it unless your dead. would you care to explain numbnuts

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Heimdall,

11/12/2006 13:22:10

It is nice to see people building the things that H R Giger drew.

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Thatcherite,

Tayside. 11/12/2006 13:26:25

#2 Guga. This guy has got it right. Vote for the Conservatives next polling day and get Labour out.

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scottwebb.co.uk,

11/12/2006 13:47:46
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the trooth,

Glasgow 11/12/2006 13:49:26

I think its totally amazing the achievement we have made in medicine. Just a pity we can't all work together don't think we'd have any problems if that was the case. And you may moan about the governemt saying they can't afford it, but no ones prepared to pay more taxes or take less of a salary. We want it all for nothing, but when was the last time you gave something away for free?

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scottwebb.co.uk,

11/12/2006 13:56:59
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11/12/2006 14:29:47
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conspiracy,

edinburgh 11/12/2006 14:33:15

im not an authority on cancer,but lost both my parents to cancer, and im sure the doctors did everything possible. not just give vitamin pill.

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Thatcherite,

Tayside 11/12/2006 14:51:09

If Scotland doesn't get one we have to ask the question why not? http://breastcancerworld.com

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Heimdall,

voice in the wilderness 11/12/2006 15:29:41

While you are busy chasing the disease you miss the important point, namely, THE CAUSES. Free radicals, bad lifestyle, chemicals in the water, plastics, pollution, background radiation, the drug industry, fizzy drinks colourants, smoking etc (just a few off the top of my head). The government know of these yet continue to allow the corporate giants to trade in these lethal substances. You can chase viruses, and complex diseases all you wish, however as soon as the disease is caught it will mutate into another type that in immune to the current treatments. If the body is made healthy by the elimination of toxic precursors and education and opportunity of better lifestyles, then these insidious diseases would not get a hold on a rapidly degenerating society. We would all be healthy - hey wait, there is no profit in that!

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Prinzowhales,

North Carolina 11/12/2006 15:36:50

As physicians like Dr. Virginia Livingston-Wheeler have pointed out, cancer is s systemic disease caused mostly by a pleomorphic bacterium. She had great success treating cancer with vaccinations and diet. She was harrassed unmercifully by the Cancer Industry--Sloan-Kettering, the American Cancer Society and the like. She also used radiation and surgery, but primarily to de-bulk large tumors whose breakdown products might overwhelm the body with toxins.

Like most successful treatments, alternative cures work to assist the bodies immune system to combat the disease. Mainstream treatments utilize so-called 'heroic' measures...the kill or cure of burn, poison and cut. John F. Kennedy's personal physician used Essiac Tea to cure his own cancer. There was a survey--in Toronto, if memory serves--in which most of the oncologists surveyed declared that they would NOT undergo chemotherapy-- I don't blame them, there are cheaper, more effective modalities of treatment.

This new weapon, if it delivers as advertized, will most certainly ease the suffering of those who would normally be treated by less elegant means of irradiation. I thank the developers for this. But, I noted that no mention was made of which types of cancer they treated to achieve their 96% 3-year survival rate. This is hardly unusual with some types of cancer.

Physicians in America have treatment protocols that they must follow to satisfy the insurance company clerks. They receive little or no training in nutrition and it is an alien field to many of them. Doctors who practice medicine in ways that are outside standard practice receive the unkind attentions of the AMA and their State Medical Boards. They are essentially taught the PDR and turned loose on a gulible public to hawk their noxious nostrums. Yes, they are learning more and more and they are failing more expensively in curing the patient.

If you have cancer, seek the alternative first while your body still ha

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Reggy,

Canada 11/12/2006 15:39:53

By avoiding all prescribed cures i.e.radiation and chemo etc. my Dad has beaten late stage prostate and bowel cancer totaly.
Each person is different and as such they should listen to their bodys by seeing a holistic healer of good repute(this is not an oxymoron by the way),
By using a juice fast for fourty days and taking Oncolon as prescribed by his naturopath he was able to be pain free in two weeks and now one year later is totaly cancer free.
This is not hogwash,I am just sorry more people are not receptive to alternate healing.
Look up Oncolon for your self.In my opinion there is no need for expensive big machines when God gave us better ways.
Reg

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Prinzowhales,

North Carolina 11/12/2006 16:36:15

20 Reggy--Thankyou for the testimonial. "Oncolon" is one I haven't seen. I'll definitely check it out. With the juicing, particularly if it was carrots, wheatgrass and the like, it sounds similar to Colonel Joe Hart's method. All best to your Dad!

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Arthur,

11/12/2006 17:15:05

Thank you too reggy and best wishes to your Dad
I too will have a look at Oncolon not that I have Cancer yet. Why bring god into it though, by inference he gave us cancer too.

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NHSLothianstaff,

NHS Lothian catchment 11/12/2006 18:35:21

Did you know that NHS Lothian are "reducing" staff numbers within Critical Care Units across the Trust.
The TRust is going to reduce the "oversubsciption" of nursing staff in the following way: Ward58, Ward20 and ward21 will lose a total of 4.76 and 8.52 staff, St Johns will lose 4.54 staff and ward 116 and 118 will loss 1.16 and 17.55 staff.

This loss of staff is due to a workforce planning exercise undertaking earlier this year. The critical care units are "oversubsribed" with staff and as such nursing numbers need to reflect the workload.

This workload study was undertaken in an especially qiiet time for NHS Lothian, was based on ONE weeks audit and is not a recognised tool.

This essentially means that staffing will be tighter across NHS Lothian, less flexibility to admit patients, less flexibility during sickness, absence and holiday periods.

Of course this will NOT affect NHS Lothian patients - we have been assured of this.

What it does mean is that it will be more dangerous for patients, less staff is associated with poorer care, less flexibility to manage incidents, more and more staff being shuttled around NHS Lothian (not new), more difficult to admit a sick patient in the early hours as the extra staff wont simply be there to assist.

Of course NHS Lothian will not be laying off staff - the losses will be acheived through "natural wastage", "not filling vacancies", "volunteers to be transferred to other areas".

Merry Christmas from NHS Lothian

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SUE10,

London 11/12/2006 19:09:39

I agree with Big J, from Dundee, comment 4 above.
Please please don't let the govt spend any money on BIG toys for the boys and girls....enough!

Let us educate the masses, by a parable'When your car's engine seizes up because you have used the wrong fuel, OR have never bothered to service it...you do not blame the Garage do you?

Like a car a human body needs 'proper nutrition'...otherwise it too will start playing up!

Please please , people look at the sites as commented by Scotwebb.co.uk's comments 12 and 14 above.

Detox and proper Nutrition is the answer to all ills in a human body.

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Arthur,

11/12/2006 21:11:05

Sue 10 Not at all it is only part of the answer, all forms of treatment come into play because everyone is unique, Every preventative and curaritive therapy should be given it's chance to work dependent upon patient, and condition. There is no magic elixer, no
panacea.

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R. Davis,

Los Angeles, CA 12/12/2006 03:30:13

This treatment has been available in the United States since Loma Linda University Medical Center in Loma Linda, CA opened the first facility of its type in the entire world in October 1990. People fly in from every continent except Antarctica to receive treatment there. Most commonly it is used to treat prostate cancer where the cure rate is equal to that of surgical removal of the prostate but with a much reduced risk of impotence.

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Bozo,

NSW Australia 12/12/2006 07:07:33

Good to see some of the comments #1 #9 #12 #14 #16 Have a look at thesrthritislady@cureyoursrthiritis.com search out this site and have a look at The Drink Margie talks about..Something else to think about why is B17 banned in the US and Australia - because the multi nationals would loose too much money.WE all have at times been brainwashed to belive what the Dr says - its Gosel truth. Start thinking is he/she right? Put the name of the product they prescribe for you into your search engine and see the results.When I was prescribed cholestrol lowering drugs HELP -- never again would I take them and now use a simple capsule and the cholestral comes down quite rapidly.

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paul7313,

usa 13/12/2006 16:36:05

We need such a device in the us asap for cancers that do not respond to the standerd treatments and for people who don't want radical surgury- just for a little tumer

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Calgary,

Alberta 14/12/2006 02:08:47

I have just had colon surgery and scheduled for liver surgery. What are the costs for these operations and the recovery. How successful are conventional proceedures (Cut and Burn) and what is the final cost. Will they make 13000 a time seem reasonable.
PS I am trying Eissac and Hulda Clark therapies that many cancer patiences have had success with.
I go for preop tomorrow and when I get the results back I will let you know if these therapies have made a difference.

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Highlander,

17/12/2006 04:45:45

The VERY BIG question is:

Why not find out WHAT is causing the cancer to begin with.

Isn't THAT more IMPORTANT than the cure?

Or, is BIG BUSINESS more interested in making people sick, in order to get people to spend lots of their =MONEY= in order to 'cure' them?

Can you say 'Vicious circle?' I know you can!!


 

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