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She will be stoned to death.
#1 plus "If the man is caught we will jail him for at least six months, up to a year," a judiciary official said.
Disgusting place. Its all well and good to have respect for other culture's and people, but when they treat each other in a manner such as this, it becomes about right and wrong. There's no excuse for any punishment in this case but particularly one so brutal. The laws in place's such as Iran, Saudi etc are so stacked up against women its laughable. These practices are backward, prehistoric, oppressive and defy basic human rights.
1 I read lashings not stoning, bad enough and wrongbut read properly and don't exaggerate.2 That's fundementalist Islam for you. The men controlthe women accept.3 Where did you get that gem from I read nothing in the Koran about that. I do not support religion of any kind, myself but I can't stand lies and exaggeration either so offer substantiation or withdraw your comment.4 Any right thinking person can only agree with that.
All this, because of a s**g???
If these guys ever had their way over here, most of Britain would be stoned and lashed!!! :-)
I cannot believe its the 21st century and this kind of thing is still on the agenda. The hypocrisy here would make you boak, of course they are not lacking in appetite for it, what do you expect from sexual repression?. As far as these filthy scum are concerned that stone a woman to death because she appeared in a porn film, you are murderers, plain and simple.
I am glad every time cases like this reach the western media. It lets modernity see the continuing dark ages slant on Islam.
However, it is men who perpetrate their domination over their equals? - women - in these countries. I won't be surprised if we hear in the not too far future that some Islamic woman has blown herself up along with some of her male suppressors in one of these Islamic countries. Maybe then women will be respected and seen as truly equal. Islam needs a reformation.
#5, Arthur, well done pal. It is always best to find out for yourself. Please, now read SHARIA LAW.Lashing is not correct.
To help you further, you may wish to look at www.efsha.co.uk , it will open your eyes.
#8 and #9;- Islam has built in mechanisms - idealogoy - to stop it from modernisation. The believers of this cult like religion are beyond help. They get brainwashed from an early age.They look at women as sexual objects. That is why the need for the veil and burka - total veil. I think the young Persian actress will have to sleep her way out of this one. She may succeed. She may just be used and stoned to death later.She may jump the borders and become a refugee. If she does, please remember that, her life was in danger. She ran away from a system which has no regards for human values.
Whether we like it or not, it is their punishment, under their laws and applicable to their courts.
Iran is a sovereign nation, free and democratic as we understand it? Probably not, but svereign none the less.
It is up to them to sort out the way they wish to live, unless of course anyone would advocate we invade?
10 I have read the bible several times, but the koranonly once. both were exceedingly boring and tortuous reads. But in this instance I was referring to what was reported in the article not what the koran says on the matter. I conced the article may well be wrong.I have no intention of reading Sharia Law after the holy books I couldn't face it.I know how barbaric and hypcritical religion is. It is not so long ago that Christians were burning people as witches, and heretics. Yet I know many good reasonable intelligent people from all religions and none. Only where they are Muslim they are all men.
Thanks Siroos for the website. I've found it very interesting.
Yes Katyani, but it is written by a Christian organisationI would be far more likely to accept what is said if the source was more independent like agnostic or atheistor bahai. The sites soul purpose is to convert fom onesuperstition to another not destroy superstition.
Rory, that position is wholly unnacceptable, by that context we should have ignored what happened in NaziGermany, it was after all thei law.
Rory, no. 13:
The problem is who 'they' are.
Democracy means people govern themselves, perhaps indirectly through elected representatives. But even in a democracy the majority should not oppress minorities; activities should be curbed only when they harm others.
Iran is a theocracy, which means it is governed by superstition and nonsense. That would not matter so much if 'they', *all* of Iran's people, agreed with it and if none of them were oppressed.
Being stoned to death for anything seems like oppression to me. Can you imagine what it must be like to be the victim? I hope circumstances are never such that you or I find out for real.
Being lashed for premarital sex - an act that can hardly be said to harm anyone else - seems like oppression and several other things besides.
It simply is not good enough to say: "Iran is a sovereign state; let's leave it up to them." I don't favour invasion – wading in F-16s first, as the Americans are wont to; but the least we can do is to protest; and perhaps the best we can do is to try to spread the teaching of critical thinking - everywhere.
Good dialogue. However, Number 18, we don't use F-16's anymore. We sell those.
I think this same style dialogue would have taken place in 1940 America regarding the Japanese and Germans, had there been message boards. Casting a wide net like, 'all Germans are bloodthirsty Hun that are programmed for war' doesn't seem to be much different than the assumption that all Muslims want this war of cultures. Unfortunately, when you mix potential Nukes with a society that still stones people... There's not alot of room for optimism, or error.
While these examples of Koranic Law in Iran are sickening and reprehensible, why we hearing about them now? Is this part of the propaganda build-up for a US attack on Iran? Seems less likely after Scary George got his wings well and truly clipped, but you never know. Purely in passing, I gather Iranian clerics/judges tend to prefer hanging by mobile crane instead of stoning. More of a crowd puller. May explain the increased demand at Yokohama construction machinery auctions.
Stoning the Iranian way
According to Amnesty International, Article 104 of the Iranian penal code states, with reference to the penalty for adultery: ...the stones should not be too large so that the person dies on being hit by one or two of them; they should not be so small either that they could not be defined as stones. Amnesty argues that this is clear evidence that "the punishment of stoning is designed to cause the victim grievous pain before death".
In Iran, the convicted person to be killed is wrapped in a sheet and buried; male convicts are buried from the waist down, female convicts are buried deeper to prevent the breasts from becoming exposed. .
Jason, how long have you had your head buried in the Iranian desert. Shari Law has been responsible for quite a lot of atrocities which I've been aware of since the 70's at least. And not just in Iran
Have you forgotten about the Saudi princess who wasstoned to death because she loved a commoner, he was beheaded, both in public.
Your reference to hanging is for common criminals the case being a multiple rapist and murderer, he was lashed 100 times before being strangled slowly by the noose. Once again in front of a baying crowd.He did wrong, but his punishment was simply revenge and entertainment equally as barbaric as his crimes.
Do you know anything about Pharonisation, if notfind out I am not going to describe it here it is tobarbaric and disgusting.
Also you might like to find out how some of the more ignorant and backward fathers ensure their daughters maintain virginity until arranged marriage
We are not just hearing about the now, it is not as a build up to anything.
6,509 TERRORIST ATROCITIES SINCE 9/11, IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.
Tell me oh wise and ancient mullahs. How do you expect the world to accept that this is being done because we do not understand you? Is it any wonder?
Allan #23, your idealogy is not different to that of Bin Laden.
Arthur #16. You are ONLY assuming. Please take a look at the research and the documentary evidence provided before drawing a conclusion. This sounds reasonable, does it not?
Jason#20. Welcome to the classroom. Sit down please and learn about the evil that is facing humanity. The lack of action by senior politicians is going to provide them with the gift of the Nukes too.Bush is bad, Blair is bad.......I have heard it all before. Who is going to preserve our way of life? They won in Iraq and now the unaware masses taken control. I am talking about the same people who bred life into this monster.
Hi Arthur, I am a reasonable intelligent woman, born muslim, bred in Iran. I can assure you, just now you met the first reasonable inellegent woman who are a (caltural) muslim; there you go!
Give the lady a break...give her space to defend herself......