Dr Sanders is generalising.
No evidence for her assumptions whatsoever.

Dr. Sanders has done a study which would presumably be evidence based, and most of what she says is common sense. It is the current and proposed legislation which is wrong, it is weighted against the women. What needs tackling are the grubby greasy little perves who abuse these women the pimps and the
clients. Legalise prostitution then the state could live of immoral earnings through taxing the tarts and they would become even more valuable members of society.

What vital signs do hookers have to check for before jumping into a strangers car???

'Nae duck tape, nae mask, nae leather gloves, he checks out - I'm in there!!'

Legalise it, tax it, centralise it - control it. Job done.

bit heavy arfur [#4].

Nonsense, just means the ' Sauna,s' will become busier. and the daily sport may sell a few more copies and small ads.

How come we're constantly supposed to feel sorry for these wimmin when male drug adicts who feed their habit by thieving are vilified? Why are they allowed to work at Leith Links 100 yards from a Police station - there's no history of it around there?

The laws need toughened up - or else they can start hanging round your door looking rough.

Legalise it and let the prostitutes pay taxes like the rest of us.

Dunno what planet you've been living on Boab. There's no history of what around Leith Links, you can't have lived in Leith very long if that's what you think.
Two factors It happens near a cop shop because their is a certain relationship between tarts and cops and because the cops know where the tarts and their pimps are. The second is that Leith used to be a busy port not
the yuppie glasshouse it's becoming and what do you think is one of the first thing visiting semen, sorry I mean, seamen want. Don't be niave Leith has a long and not so distant history of ladies of the night.

this should have been legalised long ago, the problem would have pretty much disapeared by now. this is one case where we should copy our enlightened european neighbours

Actually Arthur I come from Leith and there is no history of it at Leith Links. Coburg Street - where they were moved on from - yes. Salamander Street - where they were moved on from - yes. But Links Place - NO. Not until now.

You are wrong Arthur.

And there Boab is the problem they've been moved on moved around, for time immemorial they've been
at the bottom of the walk, along the links, near the docks, down salamander street. and so the merrygoround goes on. still they will be moved on again before to long and maybe all those rich incomers
will start complaining when there are tarts plying their trade outside their windows. There must be plenty rich pickings in these flash penthouse apartments.
Whatever happened to the enlightened approach of moving them of the sreets into saunas.

Most of the so called pros in Leith are smack -heads not prostitutes! dripping with a**s very nasty pieces of work...i feel sorry for the sailors!

Happy for them to move into the saunas. In the meantime they can hang around outside your door. Just don't expect me to start feeling sorry for them. Everybody has choices - even prostitutes. Here's an idea - it will be tolerated as long as they operate within 100 yards of their own front doors!

BTW, that's some chip you've got on your shoulder about expensive flats.

Yer Boab why do people keep slagging off the New Leith? its pathetic...

And another thing Boab I'll take issue with you on the issue of vilifying male drug addicts. All drug addicts have the same choice as the rest of us and choose to ignore the best advice which non users heed so in that respect I am not sorry for any of them.
Male users feed their habit by theft and mugging which
affects many people adversly. Junkie tarts feed their habit at least honestly they provide a service to get the money to feed their habit and only harm themselves.
Ther may also be more than a few who want to quit but their drug using woman abusing scum called pimps keep them hooked and on the game to feed their own greed and drug habit. In my view the most honest women are tarts.

If you know the full history of Leith you know that it grew as a town separate from Edinburgh with rich and poor people. There's a lot of big old houses in Leith.

People who slag off the new Leith only know the area from it's depressed period in the 60s, 70s and 80s after the docks slumped.

It's not a housing estate - it's a town.

That is absoulutely right Arthur! WELL SAID.

Here Boab They'll have a long way to come to stand outside my front door. I live in York now worse luck
Still it is such a Holy City we don't have a drug or prossie problem according to the schools, church, and
city council.
If I have a problem with this development it is that is
pricing me out of the market of ever returning to my home city.

Arthur - in your view "the most honest women are tarts" - wait till I tell my mother that.

Anyway - how do you "honestly" carry out an illegal activity?

Well Boab if Leith is dae sae weel fir itsel how can they no sort oot thon abomination called great junction street.

Never mind Arthur. There's a really nice baker in the Shambles. Great olive bread.

"Well Boab if Leith is dae sae weel fir itsel how can they no sort oot thon abomination called great junction street."

Fair point. You win. I'm off home now.

Prostitution itself is a grey area legally, what a woman does with her body is her affair. It is the pimping,
soliciting, and other neffarios activities that go with it which are illegal.
There is honesty in a client and tart striking a deal whether that deal is legal or not, each knows what the other wants and usually get it.
Unless you know woman of the night and although this may cause some derision, I have known more than a few in both senses of the word, you cannot counter me on this. they are generrally good, generous, honest souls. Whose hard act disappears
rapidly if you treat them as equals.

Boab sorry to burst another buuble for you that bakers
is now a tourist trap prostituting the heritage of the City
selling tacky souveniers

Welcome to the Boab and Arthur show - can you two no just swap emails and be done with it.

Benji, Boabs awa hame, he said so. Ah huv been waitin fir anither Mark tae... sorry ah mean person to discuus the burning issues of the day with, so whit dae ye huv tae say.

It's gettin awfy lonely in here, dae ye no think.
That boabs awa hame, an aw biddy else must huv
shot aff tae the links lookin fir a slapper since it's dark noo. Thon Benji disnae seem up tae the mark. so to speak, if ye ken whit ah mean.

Arthur stop calling them tarts, its nasty and is used as an insult to women who are not prostitutes...as for slapper! Come on you gies some names for the punters for a change....how aboot 'sexually challenged'....'socially inept' or even 'hormonally dysfunctional'?

As for angry of Leith, you feel sorry for the sailors who buy these women?....'dripping with aids' are they,somehow I think you've got another agenda, mibbe you've been there and regretted it, or mibbe you just dont approve, end of story. What if they cleaned up, came off their addictions and presented a nice healthy rosy glow to these wonderful sailor boys...would that suffice? OR MAYBE THEY WOULDNAE HAVE TO SELL THEIR SORRY WEE SOULS IF THEY COULD DO THAT EH? Would that make them a 'real prostitute'? would you give your approval then eh?......feel sorry for the sailors ooooh that takes the biscuit.

Well hello Cyn, I gotta say this you were never anywhere near Dora Noyce she knew the business
and none o yer kinky stuff either.
I call them tarts with all due respect for reasons of brevity I get really pissed off typing prostitute etc
every time. Now if you'd read my earlier postings on this thread you would know that I have respect for the Ladies and those whose company I have enjoyed the pleasure of in the past never had any problem with what I called them in jest or affectionately.
As to the males I have a variety of names. Lets see
Pimps, Criminal scum Psychopaths beneathe contempt, sub human and disgusting. I would not insult the animal kingdom by calling them animals.
The clients, The guy whose got more money than sense, whose unaware wife he says doesn't understand him, who risks his family relathionships for a wee bit of variety. I'm lost for words what to call him.
Then ther's the perv, he wants something extra, something different, what he needs is help, he's the one who might well attack other women because he doesn't know how to form a sexual relationship in the real world. He's the one whom the prostitute prevents harming other woman, this is where prostitutes are of value to society. As for angry of Leith He's a wind up merchant, who probably feels short changed by the girls he's been with.

Dear Arthur I have misjudged you, you are indeed a gentleman....but less o the tarts and slappers or you'l get the rubber paddle soaked in whisky!

31 Cyn stop talkin dirty, Mind you, that's a new one on me.

Whooopeee im moving to Scotland

Every few months I get a community newsletter through the door telling us of great victories against prostitutes in the Leith Links area.

Having lived here for years I've still to find a hooker .. never been tempted, but I really can't see what all the fuss is about.

Me, my girlfiend, and none of my neighbours claim to have been confused for hookers/pimps and I've never felt worried about wandering across the links in the dead of night. (Even with the obligatory drunken teenagers on the climbing frames!)

Great Victories against prostitutes what a joke.
I did not know we were at war with them.
We should be looking to great victories against theives,
drug dealers, pimps, extortionists, vandals and muggers. The prostitutes are only women who goes to war against women, the other ills and criminality of society are not their fault, but I suppose they are an easier target, after all we all know what a prostitute looks like, don't we?

Is this the Boab and Arthur Show..... Yawn..

P.S. does anyone remember my point 6.

Steve 34 it all depends what me, me girlfriend, and me neighbours look and dress like dunnit?

37 Trooper t Yes I do. and boabs awa hame and probably tucked up in bed noo so it's all doon tae me

Boab if ye chance by this board again that's twice somebody's said is this the boab and artur show
dae ye think there might be sumpin init maybe we should approach STV. Whit dae ye think Eh?

I'm back Arthur

But I'm not interested in prossies any more. More disappointed that the bakers is a tourist trap.

But I was in there in July and I've never seen anywhere less like a tourist trap, There's a pile of bread and an oven! You sure it's the same place?

Unless bread is a souvenir down your way?

BTW never saw any prossies tonight. Just DSS neds looking for a pagger. Don't get me started.

#1 - might have guessed Paul Voltaire would be first in the queue when prostitution is on the agenda.

Right Boab and Arthur yer Signed............

Poor old Voltaire. Getting singled out by beatroot again. Be fair, Voltaire's always first in the queue so please don't draw any inference from the subject matter.

This is all a wee bit tacky. Prostitution will never go away because there is always some weirdo around the corner waiting to pay for a piece of ass that he couldn't otherwise achieve through other means.

Shame really.

debbie - leave paul voltaire alone.

Boab, rest easy the good lady who is in town more than I says I am talking out the wrong orifice again the bread shop is still there, called something vaguely Latin.
Now can anybody tell me who is this Paul Voltaire.
is he a philosopher or just philled up.

Oh Bread Souvenier here nah just the oriental variety
you wantee plenty chinky doshy.

Maybe after his day on Bukie Andy Kerr can now visit the prostitutes and see if he can get anywhere with them

After a day on Buckie I don't think anybody would be looking for their oats.

#1 Paul - Dr Sanders has been researching this topic for 8 years, so "no evidence"?!

I bought a vice from B&Q the other day. Didn't see any prostitutes selling them.

B & Q In the Isles whatever next?

Broadband Arthur. Get with it mate............

How's all this happening then Dave broadband too you say. It wasn't so long ago that the powers that be were saying you had to fund your own TV relay for Harris and Lewis. What's changed?

No idea what you are talking about Arthur. Take it up with the powers at be I guess.

I live in Barra anyways. Broadband is great, so much better than dial up.

Cynthia Pain you are obviously a Prostitute[sorry smack -head] and Arthur you are a typical W****r !
The truth always annoys people!!!

No V.A.L. ignorant little boys abusing their daddies
computer, with an incomplete command of their native tongue annoy me.
Little twerps who make assumptions about others they don't know, from the flimsiest of evidence annoy me.
You don't even know if Cyn is a woman do you, if she is, and she is on the game, so what, unless of course she's your mum.
And in conclusion you are quite correct I masterbate,
but usually I prefer to fornicate, doesn't everybody
who is not a eunoch. Oh and I only fornicate within marriage nowadays, I have had lot's more fun and memories to last a married life time. Now run along sunny and play with with the little girls your own age

Arthur, he does have a fair amount of evidence to decide whether you are what he called you. I have to say I totally disagree with him but then again the term is quite subjective (one person's w****r is another one's hero).
Hate to have to point this out, but where is your evidence that VAL is male, never mind a little boy using his Daddy's keyboard? Or were you just being metaphorical?

Now now Julian we are beginning to split (pubic) hairs here are we not?