Women heap as much "second rateness" on themselves as these "lads mags" do. I occassionally read one of my good lady's womens mags (on the toilet, where they belong) and am appalled by the content. Semi naked men, articles about how to sexually satisfy a man in 50 ways (it only takes one by the way). Stick thin models sending out the wrong message, stories about how some womens life improved 10 fold when she got her boob job done (on the NHS incidentally) how much more attractive she feels and loves the new attention she recieves from men. This from Heat, a mag nestling along side the Beano, the Bunty and the bare arse monthly.

Men generally don't complain about womens mags so quit bumping your gums about ours.

As for kids seeing that? Well, I bathe with my kids, my good lady bathes with our kids, they see our bits and generally don't give a hoot and think it's the most natural thing in the world. Fortunately they are too young to read therefore do not understand the words on said mags.

I've only got short arms. How am I supposed to have a tommy now?

Good for you Jennifer!

And like you, many men who come accross the odd picture of a semi naked woman in Zoo or Nuts or whatever these mags are called do exactly the same thing, flip the page and go looking for gossip relating to football, cars etc. To think guys don't go looking for gossip would be sexual stereotyping and a no no in my book.

As for kids looking at these mags thinking that's how they are supposed to look, I can tell you flatly, they don't. It doesn't occur to them until a parent or a silly MP points it out and tries to make it a taboo. Then they take notice and then they start making the correlations. However, good parenting means teaching them that there is a happy medium in life.

As for women with curves? Definately! And the women in "lads mags"? All curvey. Women in womens mags? Skinny freaks.

Keep up the good work Jennifer. You have made yourself an ambassador for women kind but please, us guys don't need a female ambassodor telling us right from wrong.

"Puritanism: the haunting suspicion that somebody somewhere is having fun." (HL Mencken)

"There is something deep in human nature that makes people want to stop others doing things, always "for their own good" (RA Heinlein)

Dave, totally understand where your coming from. But I am not saying what is right and wrong, it's just my opinion. I don't think men and women will ever see eye to eye on this subject. In my honest opinion, women are threatened and hurt when a man buys a mag like that, because they instantly think that the man is going to 'pleasure themselves' over the pictures, and they think something is inadequate about them that their man has to do that(or they think their man isn't satisfied in the bedroom). Hence why this politician asking for change is a woman and not a man!
I like the fact that you said you bath with your kids, that kind of open-ness and honesty is what our society is lacking these days! No one seems to spend time with their kids, and leave them hanging around the streets until late, and it's good parenting like yours that keeps this country from slipping down the pan!

Jennifer ... kids were smashing cars, shouting abuse at wrinklies and generally peeing everybody off when I was a kid some time ago now. It's not a modern phenomenon. It came about after WWII and the Cold war of the 50s. It was a direct response to the amount of rigid control parents and authorities had over teenagers. The Tweenies (12 to 15) are reaping the benefit of the Teenage and Sexual Revolutions of the 60s and 70s. The very young (under 12) have been having THEIR revolution since the 80s.

For anyone who hasn't already worked this out, I feel quite stongly on this subject! And it seems that I have the only female response!
Well, womens magazines are a pile of rubbish! The stories about women having boob jobs and feeling great are just boring...so what?you have male attention?and?do you have a personality to go with them? I'm 100% natural and if I got fake boobs and got lots of male attention, I know that I'd be wondering for the rest of my day if the man was with me for being me or for my boobs. AND everytime I see woman who have been surgically enhanced, I just think, shes fake, they are fake! I only agree in plastic surgery, if someone has VERY LOW self confidence, like they are horribly bullied about it, or if someone has lost breasts due to cancer. The latter I would support being funded by the NHS. But, this is not to say that the person involved gets huge EE+ boobs, but the typical C cup.
Womens magazines have little or no topless guys in them, and even then, its not in a sexually suggestive way. I only read them for the celebrity gossip(cat fights etc), and rarely buy them. When I do come across the odd topless man though, I think nothing of it. I just flip to the next page. It doesn't interest me what a man looks like on top or below. The personality is what counts the most, anything else is just a bonus!
I do agree though that skinny women rule the covers, whats that all about? The majority of my male friends find curvier women attractive, and one even said they would be scared incase they broke a her bones! Its not even like the women are just toned, some, for instance Keira Knightly, Julia Roberts, Nicole Ritchy and Lindsay Lohan(who looks a bit healthier now) are verging on anorexia. This is a bad signal, and if young children see these images, they might think that that is how to look good.

Typical blinkered right-wing white Tory Christian backward moralisation rearing its ugly head again??? How parochial!!!
Dear god, when are they going to stop telling us how to live our lives??? And I was 8 when I got my hands on my first "Parade" (bums n tits) mag. Kids will get them one way or another. All the moralisation on the planet can't/won't stop them!

What planet is this woman/these people from??? They know nothing (or don't want to know) about real people and their real problems.

What kind of morality is it to waffle on about soft porn when there is still very real poverty in these Isles???

Get real and tackle THAT, you white right wing Tory Christian eejits!!!

Too right! Whats the big problem with moving these magazines to the top shelf? So a man has to reach a little higher to get something they want...at least it stops/limits children from seeing the images on the front cover while they look for what they want! I am digusted in the article that before a breast enlargement, a woman is classed as a 'slightly second-rate person'. What idiot wrote this? Sounds like he cant handle a natural woman, whatever shape or form. Women could say the same about a mans manhood, but we dont because we accept a man for what he is and what he has! How would men feel if we women said they were second rate for not having a big enough tool and sent them for an enlargement? All these talks about equality in pay etc...what if there were magazines showing naked guys with towels over their privates? Most men would hate it! Especially if they had six packs! A message to all men out their who have partners/girlfriends and still read this absolute garbage like zoo and nuts...you obviously dont have much of a love life - get it sorted. After all, everytime you look at the pictures, just think how many other perverts are doing the same. Be original and use your imagination!
For the record though, I know this doesn't apply to all men, and I don't have much respect for the lassies who show their bits, but if thats the best they can do to earn a living, since they don't need two braincells...
And thats my rant over for the day!(Went abit off the subject, but I don't give 2 hoots!)

Johnni, I do agree with you in a way...but have a good look at kids nowadays roaming the streets...they have little respect for older people(I'm only 19 by the way), they smash up cars and vandalise things and do anything they want...lets take some control back! These magazines, the media and other things all add to the way they think, and saying a woman is second rate before a breast enlargement is an example!
Sex is everywhere nowadays, especially the internet, and if kids really want to see things, they will. But it's the articles that go with it that shapes childrens thinking.
lol 8 years old...what happened to being innocent as a child? Children should see as little of this filth as possible and remain young for aslong as possible!
And moving a magazine to a top shelf isn't telling you how to live your live, it's just protecting children! Are you too small to reach the top shelf?
By your comments, you sound like we should give children these magazines so they are not curious anymore...so should we let them try drugs incase they are curious of them?? Not on the same level, obviously, but same principle.
No wonder we have soo many under age pregnancies... boys want the real thing and end up having a life time commitment because they don't protect themselves.(yes, the stupid lassies who get themselves pregnant underage are also to blame - no respect to them by the way as its a wasted life, probably on benefits, and they miss an education. Can't walk along Princes Street nowadays without seeing them out with their gold earrings and cheap clothes pushing their cheap buggies)
I'm not a fan of the Tories..but after I read an article about David Cameron trying to stop shops, like Asda, selling clothes like miniskirts to children/parents, I've warmed to them. I mean, it's horrible seeing young teens go about in skimpy wear, they don't have the body for one, and it attracts the attention of older guys. (YUK!HOW WRONG IS THAT!)
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Hi Jennifer

Like what you said about women may think that a man maybe "pleasuring" himself with these mags etc. However, I'd like to point out that Anne Summers have done her bit in doing the same to men. It appears that it's totally acceptable for a woman to have an array for plastic penis's (some of them that look like they should be used for digging up roads!)but how would you feel if your man came home with a plastic vibrating vagina? I'm sure you would feel totally inadequate.

There should be an Anne Summers equivelant for men.

I'd like your point of view.

"it seems that I have the only female response!
Well, womens magazines are a pile of rubbish!"

Clearly not a typical woman's response then Jennifer, & I thought I had a breast fixation till I read your long post about them