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Published Date: 22 October 2008
BARACK Obama is breaking off his election campaign this week to visit his ailing grandmother, arguably the most important influence in his life.
Madelyn Dunham, 85, who lives in Hawaii, took the leading role in raising Mr Obama from the age of ten until adulthood and was a major influence in his ideas and politics.

She was released from hospital last week and returned home, with aides saying her health was deteriorating.

Mr Obama's great-uncle, her brother Charles Payne, 83, last night said she has not been well for a long time. "Then she fell and broke her hip fairly recently."

Speaking from Chicago, he added: "She's unhappy with the condition that she's in, I can tell you that." Mr Payne declined to speculate on whether his sister had the strength to see her grandson through to the election on 4 November.

"I think, of course, it's been terribly important to her," he said. "And she would like nothing better than to see that."

"The decision to suspend the campaign with only a fortnight remaining until the election underscores the seriousness of the situation," said a senior Obama aide, Robert Gibbs.

Mr Obama has cancelled campaign stops in swing states for Thursday and Friday for the visit to Hawaii, with his wife Michelle due to fill in for him until he returns to the trail on Saturday.

Mrs Dunham's role in bringing up the young Obama is highlighted in his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, in which he recounts that she and his late grandfather, Stanley, stepped in when his own mother proved unable to give him her full attention.

More recently, Mrs Dunham, who he nicknames Toots, became a central feature of Mr Obama's primary election campaign, when he alluded to her occasional racism to explain how whites often harboured suspicions of African-Americans.

In a speech earlier this year he talked of how, taking him for walks as a child, she would make discriminatory remarks about blacks.

"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbours any racial anomisity," he said during the primary campaign. "But she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way."

The visit highlights Mr Obama's unusual life story: His father, Barack Obama snr, a Kenyan exchange student, met and married his white mother, Ann Dunham from Kansas, after they met in Hawaii.

Two years after Mr Obama was born, his father returned to Kenya and later divorced, meeting his son only once more before dying in a car crash in 1982.

His mother remarried and moved with her young son to her husband's native Indonesia in 1967 and died from cancer in 1995. Mr Obama moved back to America in 1971 to stay with his grandparents, who took the lead role in raising him with his mother frequently away on business.

In Dreams of My Father, he praises his grandmother as suspicious of overwrought sentiments or overblown claims, content with common sense, and says her character did much to form his own.

In a campaign advert this year, Mr Obama described Mrs Dunham as the daughter of a Midwest oil company clerk who "taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland" – things like "accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses. Treating your neighbour as you'd like to be treated."

Mr Obama recognised Mrs Dunham when he accepted the Democratic presidential nomination at the party's convention in Denver. "She's the one who taught me about hard work. She's the one who put off buying a new car or a new dress for herself so that I could have a better life. She poured everything she had into me," he said.

BACKGROUND

BARACK Obama's absence from the campaign trail comes as John McCain begins to narrow the polling gap between the two candidates with attacks on Mr Obama's tax policy which he says amounts to "socialism" for favouring more tax for the rich and less for the poor.

Mr Obama remains ahead in many swing states, but polls now show both Florida and Ohio have swung back by narrow margins to Mr McCain. An absence from the campaign trail at a crucial time could harm Mr Obama's momentum, but he may also gain a sympathy vote for his visit to Hawaii.

And it is likely that Mr McCain will feel obliged to tone down any negative attacks on the days when Mr Obama is by his grandmother's bedside.

Last month, Mr McCain suspended his campaign saying it was necessary to deal with the financial crisis.



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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 01:31:02

Anyone planning on sending BACK the SECOND "Economic Stimulus Check" that's being planned ?

Is it only "socialistic" when SOMEONE ELSE gets some cash ?

Let's get real about all this. . . .
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Scullion,

Canada 22/10/2008 01:57:04
Ah, the last gasps of the nutter Right who quite clearly see McCain and Palin are headed to Nowheresville.
#6, darn those Speakers of the House; they are the true power wielders in Washington. Snicker.
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2dogs in D.C.,

22/10/2008 02:04:19
Scullion-#7, This is painful to me, but I must relate just how really stupid so many of my fellows are. These are actual statements overheard at Gettysburg Pa.National park,(Battlefield). "Must not been to bad a fight, none of the monuments have bullet holes in them." And-"Funny how so many Civil War battles were fought on National Park land". What can I say?
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Dragonhead,

Dalia,China 22/10/2008 02:51:31
#7 Scullion,"Right nutter"? Self portrait looking in a mirror are we? From a Liberal twerp that is rich.
Sympathy vote and she is "white" after all,that is another bonus. Wonder if he will return to the 'mainland' with a duly notorized,signed and embossed copy of his 'REAL' Birth Certificate?
The US deserve Obama, just like GB deserved Tony Blair. Both he and Blair are a breed of, as they say in China, "Lei sheng da, yu dianr xiao" or BIG thunder, Little rain! All show no go! All wind and P***,Just wait and see.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 03:05:47

#6 -

Rosie should be a good American and sign over any future claims she may have for unemployment benefits, social security, Medicare/Medicaid, economic-stimulus checks, senior tax reductions, disability benefits, etc.

Do your part for America !

Reject all "socialistic" government benefits and help restore our economy !

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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 03:22:29
Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Renounce Any Claim to Social Security or Medicare
(Submitted by mark karlin on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 8:23am. EditorBlog )

"If you are a senior citizen in a trailer park or even in a luxurious condo and you talk over your bingo games and in your barber shops about what a "liberal socialist threat" Barack Obama is to America, we have a suggestion for you: burn your Medicare and Social Security Cards and send a letter to the U.S. Government informing them that you are now going to personally pay your own bills for healthcare and want no more Social Security checks sent to you."

"You see how easy it is to personally reject "socialism" in your life."

"Oh, and when you get too feeble to live on your own, remember that you can't sign your assets over to your children and then have Medicaid pay for your nursing home care, because that's "socialism" too, right? So save up, cause that nursing home care gets costly without the government covering it."

"And if the $700 billion (you know that it's going to be a trillion or more in the end) socialism for Wall Street scheme doesn't work and your bank collapses with your life savings down the drain, please tell Washington that you don't want them to insure your savings because that's "socialism." You'll just eat the loss of your retirement savings because you're a John McCain sort of person (not that he would turn back the FDIC insurance check from the government.)

Oh, and if you are a senior for McCain because you want to prevent "dreaded liberal socialism" from spreading and are disabled, please return your government disability checks to the Treasury. You can personally strike against "big government" all by yourself. Just send the check back."

"And if you get senior discounts on public transportation, stop taking them. Demand you pay the full amount in your crusade against "socialism." And when you need rehabilitation homecare because you fall and
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 03:23:07

fall and break your hip, tell the "big brother government" to take a hike and that you'll pay for it yourself."
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA for more WAR VOTE geriatric McCain 22/10/2008 03:31:52
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Dalia,China

Hey Dude ,

We are still awaiting answers from U

How many Chinese are executed each year by Ur masters the CCP. The West say its 15.000 executions.

U never gave us the answer to:
How many Chinese women are forced to abort.

The West say its between 11 million and 13 million Chinese women that are forced to abort.

Ur leader Hu Jintao should know the figures.

Adios

GC
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Virginian,

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"...but he[Obama] may also gain a sympathy vote for his visit to Hawaii."

Answer: Never heard of a "sympathy vote" for a person visiting their sick grandmother.

Why didn't McCain get a sympathy vote when he wanted to suspend the campaign and the debate to deal with the sick economy?

Is this Obama's white grandmother that he "threw under the bus" with his criticisms of her "discriminatory" comments about black people?

Would McCain get equal sympathy votes if he visited his 96 year old widowed mother, Roberta McCain, if she gets sick? (Fortunately she is hale and hearty and campaigning for her son.)
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Richardinho,

22/10/2008 07:46:13
Every time a republican opens their mouth, I dislike them more and more. I remember they used to be an honorable party; now they are the inhuman party.
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Guga II,

Rockall 22/10/2008 07:57:35
I see that the Republicans have spent $221,000 buying new clothes for that bimbo, Sarah Palin.
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2dogs in D.C.,

22/10/2008 08:51:03
To see a new form of political prognostication check out FiveThirtyEight.com They have Obama by 52%.
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donald,

glasgow 22/10/2008 08:56:03
Granny McCain, what big ears you have. Have you been listening to Gordon Broon?
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donald,

glasgow 22/10/2008 08:58:28
Little Pink Riding Hood goes through Breton Woods to visit Granny and the Seven Hoods.
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Queensland 22/10/2008 09:11:53
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"Would McCain get equal sympathy votes if he visited his 96 year old widowed mother, Roberta McCain, if she gets sick? (Fortunately she is hale and hearty and campaigning for her son.)"

That's the least she can do after making such a bad job of raising him.
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AJ Fife,

22/10/2008 09:43:08
Obama seems a decent chap, unlike the war mongering McCain and his stooge, Joe the plumber!
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forbietwo,

22/10/2008 11:45:33
#9 Dragonhead....

sounds rather like our own dear Viktoria claimed English nationality when she was born on a boat leaving Germany and the boat was claimed English territory just off the German coast as the baby of the local woman and the Duke was lined up to fill in for a ‘roya’l dynastic line that was about to die out.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 22/10/2008 12:56:53
America is hushed in dread anticipation at the state of health of the future "First Grandmother of the USA".

I wish her well and a comfortable recovery.
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Postmark-55,

China, 22/10/2008 13:49:11
What a difference between Obama and McCain. Obama is kind and considerate, putting family before career, McCain dumped his first wife on learning that she had been in a car accident that left her crippled. McCain's character is as low as Bush's character and the world will not accept America if McCain wins the election. Obama may be inexperienced but he will do a lot of good for America and he's got Colin Powell's endorsement, someone the rest of the world trusts a whole hell of a lot more than McCain and Palin.

Let's hope for a full recovery for Obama's grandmother and then Obama can get back down to business again.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 14:17:50

#34 - Postmark-55

Thanks for expressing your sentiments regarding the characters of each presidential candidate and your good wishes for Obama's grandmother. Thoughts like this are rarely expressed here. . .

One man lives in the past and is angry at his age and angry at the world; he is a danger to our country and poses a threat to world peace. He preaches fear, revenge, hatred for others and division. A VERY mentally disturbed, tortured individual whose ideological views were born while a prisoner in Vietnam.

Untreated "post-traumatic-stress-disorder" taken to an extremely dangerous level is not what we need as a president ! You can see that the man is SEETHING, no matter where he appears. He looks like he's going to blow at any time !

The other man is young, intelligent and will treat everyone with dignity, empathy and respect, due mainly to the wise upbringing he received from his grandmother. He is a man with vision and clarity of mind, capable of seeing past the failures of our recent past and willing to actually listed to advice from all sectors. He is revered around the world as someone that will help us all to re-gain the respect that Americans used to have, prior to the Bush years.


Under his leadership, I expect that many who do not trust him will calm down and realize that the right man is president, at the exact moment that we need such a person.
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Postmark-55,

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#35 D. Feste - Illyria,
You're welcome.
I, along with who knows how many millions worldwide are watching your presidential race very carefully. The world has seen America stoop to its lowest level ever since the Bush Administration took over and we're well aware that McCain is an identical clone to Bush with a VP candidate in tow who is not ready for such a high and responsible position.
We know that Obama can bring back the America of old but many are also well aware that if Obama wins he will need to closely guarded for there is sure to be an assasination attempt shortly after he takes over. Obama is just what America needs like you pointed out and I'm sure that many worldwide are looking forward to his win.
Good luck to rebuilding your nation up to past levels, you deserve it and it will also make the world a safer place.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 15:18:14

#37- Postmark 55

Once again, many thanks for your thoughtful observations.

We are all in this world together, we trade together, we use the world's resources together and we succeed or fail together. We can see on US television how our economic slump is affecting China and how that all plays out on a global/financial stage.

China holds much US debt and is our major supplier of consumer goods. We need to understand and respect each other if we are to live in peace in the future.
Having a world-respected US president will help us re-establish credibility with China and the rest of the world.
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Sandi,

San Diego 22/10/2008 15:40:11
#37 Postmark-55

You shouldn't pay so much attention to the Obama campaign's lies. McCain is not in any way an "identical clone" of George W. Bush. He has fought with and disagreed with the Bush administration on many issues. A McCain administration would not be a continuation of the failed Bush administration.

Obama, on the other hand, displays an even greater tendency to secrecy than Bush, which is not a good omen of the future if he wins.

Obama will not bring back the "America of old", whatever you mean by that. Obama has already destroyed the Democratic Party, the country is next. He is a product of the very corrupt Chicago political machine and he will make that corruption national. That is change we can count on, although not change we either need or want.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 15:49:45

#39 - Sandi

I thought you were taking your adult-ed Spanish-language class today. . .

Got your grand-kids out there pickin' those fruits and veggies so that we can sent the "aliens" back home ?
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 16:44:00

I was wondering when this would present itself - -

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"Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president"

Oct 21 11:40 PM US/Eastern
By PAMELA HESS
Associated Press Writer 117 Comments


WASHINGTON (AP) - Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.
The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

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Forget about the normal "testing" of all of our presidents; this story seems to jive with plans for us
to walk into yet another trap like Bush walked into.

McCain would not hesitate to do the same, I have no doubt.




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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 17:39:58

#44-

The "left-wing" source is the Associated Press !

Judging from your outrage, it would appear that this is disturbing your world a bit.

Look it up . . .I got it originally as a link from
the Drudge Report, not exactly left-wing, eh ?

You owe it to yourself to dispel your profound ignorance of the world, son.

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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 17:43:20

#44

Here's the link from today's Drudge Report:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93VA3B80&show_article=1
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Sandi,

San Diego 22/10/2008 18:15:01
D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

So, does the Obama campaign pay you by the post or by the hour? You're a blast.
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American,

22/10/2008 19:37:11
#48, 49-Actually, I just read a few articles about D's comment. al qeada is throwing around the idea of a pre-election attack so that mccain is elected, but not because he's a wimp. This way, mccain will keep our troops in iraq and afghanistan and they will be funded--and our deficit and economy will be worsened. They know obama will surrender and try to "negotiate" with them, but our army will still be strong. al qeadas way of thinking is a bit f##ked up. All they have to do is wait until obama is president. Obama would be the one to pick for surrender & "negotiations". obama is the anti-military one.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 19:41:24


#47 / #48 - Mamasitas Sandi y Rosalita -

The story that you refuse to read on Drudge is on the RIGHT-HAND column, NINTH LISTING DOWN from the top.

I try not to read "wacko" sites, either from the left or right. . . I look at Drudge many times a day - great site for news links. Being over 60, I can usually see blatant bias and have no use for it.

I'm glad that you are now seeking support from each other - "safety in numbers," I suppose, even if it's a minority of TWO !

At least I got you to think a little, at least enough to get you both ticked off !

Really - read the story; it's what I was expecting all along and was surprised at not having seen earlier.

















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American,

22/10/2008 19:43:25
#15-D-You do realize that many seniors paid social security taxes during those decades of years of working, right? People pay social security taxes and die before they can retire and collect all that money they put into it.
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American,

22/10/2008 19:44:18
#15-d-should read that "they an their employer" paid.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 19:48:14

#50 (Your quote, which I agree with, by the way )

"This way, mccain will keep our troops in iraq and afghanistan and they will be funded--and our deficit and economy will be worsened."

That appears to be the plan by al Qaida, the classic "war of attrition," wearing down an enemy until they completely exhaust their resources.

We are virtually at that point now, are we not ?

Can you imagine starting this thing up fresh again ?

I don't think that too many Americans have the stomach for another war.

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American,

22/10/2008 19:54:49
#9-dragonhead-what have I ever done to you to say that I deserve obama?? I always agreed with you, until now.


#14-alan-you had some wise, non-biased teachers in nz. Yes, it was newt who curbed the spending during the clinton years with his contract for America. There will be no checks and balances during the obama presidency. Whatever he wants, he will get--and so will the other lib dems like pelosi, frank, dodd, reid, etc... Although I will say that one left-winger dem wrote an article stating that the repubs & bush warned them of the banking, mortgage crisis & the dems just ignored it. Took alot of guts for him to admit that!!
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 20:04:48

#53 -(Re: Social Security )

This topic is close to my heart, as I am over 60.

Yes, all working people pay ( they and their employer's matching contribution) into social security and some die before they collect. Some collect for many years, receiving more than they paid in.
That's just the game of life, as we all know.

In any case, the system collects from currently-working individuals and pays out to those who are eligible for current benefits.

There is no "stash" of money with our name on it.

You collect for as long or as little as you are alive, after qualifying.

Social Security was harshly criticized as being
"socialistic," and it is ! We all pay in and we all get back. . .that's the way it works. It an insurance policy that pays according to need, like all insurance policies. No mystery in that !

Other socialistic programs such as graduated income tax ( higher rates for wealthier folks) unemployment insurance, Medicare, Widow's benefits, health plans for our politicians ( they have what we want for everyone !) public education, etc. all were badly thought of as "socialistic" but provide the safety-nets that few of us can live without.

What is it about this stuff that angers some of you ?

Don't you receive some of these things right now ?







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American,

22/10/2008 20:06:16
#54-D-NO, our army is not exhausted! Have you not seen the reports about how things are turning around in iraq?? And I would hope Americans would have the brains to know that negotiations with terrorists dont work. obama would "negotiate" with terrorists!! Look how many (broken) negotiations have been made in pakistan.

Besides, the only "negotiations" that islamic extremist want are an islamic nation with sharia laws, and the destruction of israel. one of obamas buddies is an israeli hater!
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American,

22/10/2008 20:10:38
#42-mcglone-Jeez!! I dont blame the jews for not wanting to have nazi, terrorist sympathizing scottish neighbors such as yourself. And you nutters have the b#lls to call anyone who wont vote for obama a "racist"!
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American,

22/10/2008 20:12:25
#42-mcglone-And seriously, do you really think "shaniqua" is a jewish name???
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 21:51:56

I thought that "Shaniqua" was really the alter-ego of
one of our more obviously racist, cowering republicans.

Whoever you are, don't let your wife find that pit-bull-flavored lipstick !

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Sandi,

San Diego 22/10/2008 22:32:29
#55 American

"There will be no checks and balances during the obama presidency."

You are absolutely correct. It would be like the years of the Bush administration when the Republican Congress gave him whatever he wanted. Having the White House and the Congress both the same Party is a recipe for disaster, particularly in this era of nasty partisanship, unless the resident in the White House is a very centrist politician. Obama is not even close to the center.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

22/10/2008 23:19:33
#61 - Sandi

I can't believe it ! I actually agree with you on something !

The elimination of "checks & balances" is worrisome to all of us. I am sure that many democrats are also concerned about this. Democrats are such a varied bunch that it's a wonder anything is ever accomplished.
I certainly share your concern, but I honestly believe that Obama is much more centerist than we would all like to believe. I can tell you that many of those on the "left" consider him to be no different than McCain on most topics and are not at all happy with his neglect of many social issues, as well as his "hawkish" stand on Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
Time will tell.

I also have a growing feeling that we will witness a kind of reverse "Bradley Effect," this time with many MORE Americans voting for Obama than the polls are reporting. I do believe it will be overwhelming and decisive, when the numbers are counted. I think that America wants to shed it's racial and ideological prison and will do so on Nov. 4th. I feel that we really need "new blood," and NOT the kind that has been shed in senseless wars.

If my instincts are incorrect, I will contact you and we can go in 50/50 on a chimichanga cart and hit all the profitable corners in San Diego !


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2dogs in D.C.,

22/10/2008 23:34:31
#62-Shakespearian Jester-Oh,man you're good at this-real good. Wait while I put on my cap so I can take it off to you. Keep up the good work. Dogs.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 22/10/2008 23:48:01
D. Feste.. the "magic number" is 60.. and the Dems want that more than anything, aside from the next President.
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American,

22/10/2008 23:55:19
#61-d-obama is named the #1 liberal!! worse than pelosi and reid.

#61-sandi-They gave him whatever he wanted!! So, why arent we drilling for oil here and building refineries yet like he wanted??? Also, I do believe hearing that bush and several other repubs warned of this little economic mortgage crisis we currently have. But the dems like barney frank and chris dodd (just to name a few) were against it. And, oh yes, the republicans were fools (needed newt) because they were w$sses and acted too much like dems with the spending. BTW-obama and his assoc. pushed to give mortgages to those who couldnt afford it. He's a socialist. Employers will have to lay off more people and banks will hesitate to lend small businesses money because their sales will be down.

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American,

22/10/2008 23:56:36
#64-lynne-The press want it too! I just cant figure out why!!
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American,

22/10/2008 23:58:33
#60-D-You're confused my friend. Republicans dont hide nor cower. And if obama looses its because the dems are racists because not all of them are going to vote for him.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 00:00:08
I have said this once before.. IF Obama applied for a job with the FBI or the CIA, or many other gov't jobs, under the alphabet.. He would NOT get the job. He is a security risk. They would NOT hire him..
He has QUESTIONABLE relationships with terrorists, thugs, and felons.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 00:00:59
American.. they hate Bush soo much they don't care who is elected, but it can't be GOP.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 00:38:28
#63- Dogs

A fond "hello" from your old pal, Kelvino, now acting (characteristically ) "foolishly !"
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P·K ,

23/10/2008 18:28:18
#71

What has your statement regarding "jewish" got to do with Obama campaign? No where can I find your word "jewish" in the article above. This only shows to prove yourself being a bigoted rabid racist after all many of your posts always include the word "Jew" or "Jewish" although the main story has nothing in particular to do with anything Jewish!

You are an idiot. What Lynne meant to say as according in her post is that - don't vote for terrorists, thugs and felons. Simple as that, you can't even grasp it! Only a loser has to resort to bringing up a different topic to shift attention.

Why are you evading my questions in the thread below? Have you run out of valid argument and lost out???
http://news.scotsman.com/world/Obama-drums-up-record-war.4607580.jp
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SouthernGent,

24/10/2008 00:20:19
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"I certainly share your concern, but I honestly believe that Obama is much more centerist than we would all like to believe"

Can you point us toward the record that indicates Obama is anywhere near the middle, as I can't find it. His record indicates he is pretty far to the left, only his rehtoric indicates him to be near the middle.

I was taught long ago: believe none of what you hear and half of what you see and always do your own research.

His record indicates FACT, his rehtoric indicates FICTION. Please prove me wrong.
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24/10/2008 12:35:33
My post #73 is for a poster who uses ID as "J.McGlone".

 

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