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Published Date: 30 August 2008
BARACK Obama put meat on the bones of his promise of "change" with a tub-thumping speech at Denver's Invesco Field football stadium on Thursday – but only the polls will show if voters believe that he can deliver.
Mr Obama's key weakness in the United States presidential election campaign has been the perception that he is all rhetoric and no substance.

So amid the fireworks, pounding music and roars of an electrified 84,000 crowd, the Democrat candidate
attacked the criticism head on: "Let me spell out exactly what change would mean if I am president." Top of his list was tax cuts for the middle-class, to be paid for by the rich, plus protectionist trade measures to stop the flow of jobs overseas.

There were traditional liberal promises of more money for education and health, plus a $150 billion (£82 billion) investment in renewable energy. And on foreign policy he repeated pledges to withdraw from Iraq and a new engagement with allies.

These promises fit into a narrative that sees America as having been driven into the ditch by eight years of failures and cronyism by the Bush administration, supported by John McCain, his Republican rival.

"For over two decades (Mr McCain has] subscribed to that old, discredited Republican philosophy: give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else," Mr Obama said.

"What it really means is that you're on your own. Out of work? Tough luck. You're on your own. No healthcare? The market will fix it. You're on your own."

Instead, Mr Obama sought to cast himself as following the legacy of John F Kennedy, the last presidential candidate to give an election speech in a stadium, and Martin Luther King, whose "I have a dream" speech came 45 years ago to the day. "What has been lost these past eight years can't just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits," Mr Obama said. "What has also been lost is our sense of common purpose."

He insisted this common purpose included not just compassion, but also Republican values of self-reliance and a level playing field: "Individual responsibility and mutual responsibility – that's the essence of America's promise," he said.

All of this was coupled with his most robust attack on his rival: "The record's clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 per cent of the time," he said. "I don't know about you, but I'm not ready to take a 10 per cent chance on change."

There was a nod also to foreign policy, with a pledge to hunt down Osama Bin Laden coupled with a call to end the go-it-alone stance of the Bush administration that Mr Obama says has crippled foreign policy: "You can't truly stand up for Georgia when you've strained our oldest alliances."

But for many voters, the doubts about whether this fresh-faced senator can deliver are likely to remain. His promise to raise spending and cut taxes in a country heading into recession will have economists scratching their heads.

Anxious lest he be portrayed as a tax-and-spend liberal, Mr Obama insists that he will "pay for every dime" through ending tax breaks and wasteful spending. Not everyone will agree that the numbers add up.

Supporters in the stadium were, however, enthused: "It was the best speech I've heard him make," said Bob Levine, a party official from Missouri. This will be a big help to Mr Obama in the weeks ahead.

Election success in November will depend on his ability to convince the famously lethargic younger voters to make it to the ballot box – traditionally many don't bother.

But the true test of the speech will have to wait. Not for the rush of opinion polls this weekend, which give him a post-convention "bounce", but for the end of next week's Republican convention, when Mr McCain can expect his own surge in support.

Only when the dust settles on both conventions do the polls mean anything. Going into his convention, Mr Obama was neck and neck with Mr McCain, having been in front earlier.

Some supporters worry that Mr Obama has raised expectations to the point where, should he become president, disappointment is inevitable. "If he makes it to the White House, he'll have an enormous mess to clean up. If it doesn't go as smoothly as we'd like to see, then critics will say 'I told you so'," said Eric Hardin, a Denver resident.





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  • Last Updated: 30 August 2008 12:32 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: US elections
 
1

mike - across the pond,

lol 30/08/2008 01:20:21
its called liberation theology...

from a guy steeped in BLACK liberation theology

the first is failed...

the second well on its way to failure
2

Conan the Librarian™,

30/08/2008 01:48:47
1
Mike, you remind me of the unionist posters on here.

You have a strange philosophy, for an American.

Can't do.
3

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 01:52:03
Hi Conan.Don't fret-Half of us don't agree w/Mike. Not sure we "Can Do" just yet, but we'll get it back.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 02:00:38

"Obama: I'll tax rich to help middle classes"

'Aye' Right then!

Don't think for a minute, the 'Powers at Be' will let you survive to do this.
5

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 30/08/2008 02:16:23
In America, we are not Socialists, we are Capitalists. That's the way we like it. To put a capital gains tax on ivestments and selling homes in this market is crazy. People will curb investing in stocks and bonds, and selling homes. Then who gets helped? Typical Democratic left wing thinking.
Mike is right....doomed to failure.
6

mike - across the pond,

conan.... and 2 dogs.... 30/08/2008 02:26:34
so...

too lazy to look up Liberation Theology?

too lazy to look up BLACK liberation theology?

too lazy to construct a cohesive argument?

what is it?
7

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 02:40:39
What is with all this hate? One way or another, it will be settled in November. Lazy this, lazy that, come on now. Maybe some of us are just tired from working all day, I know I am.
8

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 02:42:54
P.S.to above-please note that although I know all the cuss words and can insult w/the best, I refrain.
9

Willie Macleod,

Wick 30/08/2008 02:49:03
# 3 2dogs in DC. Evening 2dogs I hope your half wins in November.


10

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 02:51:48

2dogs in D.C. ~7,

NO HATE! From me, I like the Man, but worry for him.

Pessimist maybe, I hope I am proved wrong.
11

Willie Macleod,

Wick 30/08/2008 02:57:59
#7 2dogs I agree where does this hate come from.

It will be a close Election but please no hanging Chads a repeat of 2000
12

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 03:03:12
Charles,Willie-Good to hear some smiling faces.
13

Scullion,

Canada 30/08/2008 03:03:56
When Robert Kennedy was asked who was going to pay for his dream for America, he answered without batting an eye, "You are". America would have paid gladly for his vision.
Can this new liberal man inspire America like JFK and RFK and rebuild the country into the one we all respected at one time?
He'd better because his opponent has no chance of doing it.
14

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 03:27:49
A little psych.theory by one who may be nuts.(Me). Has anyone else noticed that Neo-cons have no sence of humor? For instance, my wife (Bless and keep her) has a bumper sticker that reads "Of course it hurts. You're being screwed by an elephant." Me, being admitedly,Dog centric, have one that reads "Please remember,spay and neuter your republicans." What do republicans have? Stuff about guns 'n guts, mostly. And not a lot of joking around here,either. Comments?
15

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 03:32:01
Oh,Yeah.Has anyone noticed that since the olympics are over, we haven't heard much from China? Kinda funny,that.
16

mike - across the pond,

2 dogs 30/08/2008 04:11:21
so....

basically you are admitting to being lazy...

guess the cliche fits... or are you going to drag out all the cuss words for me? lol

typical fascist left... you cant WIN an argument so you go all apoplectic...

BO preaches liberation theology... LOOK IT UP!!! refute it! why on EARTH would we want to follow down THAT path???
17

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 04:18:48
Apopopopopohohlec? Man I can't bark that out with all the thesaurses, or whatnots, in the world. Could this be the signs of desperation? Or just the need for a bigger dose of thorazine? Please, calm down-no need for this anger. It won't do you any good,because cyber hits don't land on chins.And, hate stews in your guts,and makes things pretty rancid.
18

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 04:19:33
Oh, I ain't cussed yet. Bub.
19

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 04:27:19
And how about some humor here,guy? Can't you insult with a tiny joke? I mean, most people like a smile now and then, and see my answer at 17-tiny joke there-see?
20

2dogs in D.C.,

30/08/2008 04:31:09
Whoa-Fascist and left? Man,I must have talents even my mother didn't imagine. See how it works? A statement and a small bit of humor all at once. No charge, gratis.
21

Jim A,

30/08/2008 07:24:45
Exit stage left all the rich people.
22

donald anderson it's me,

weegieland 30/08/2008 08:02:46
Here Labout axes the poor to help the middle classes.
23

donald anderson it's me,

weegieland 30/08/2008 08:04:35
Here Labour taxes poor Scotland to help Middle England.
24

Postmark-55,

China, 30/08/2008 08:53:51
Hey double dog, speaking of humour.You claimed the other day the doorbell rang when you were typing, trying to get us to believe that the bridge you live under has a door, with a bell yet. Come on 2dogs, as humerous as it sounds, we'll never believe you:):):):)
25

Postmark-55,

China, 30/08/2008 08:56:10
Or even humorous for that matter.

Or humorous for the Americans.
26

Itchy,

30/08/2008 10:37:41
#2 He is steeped in liberation theology. Have you heard the racist and marxist ranting of his pastor?
27

Itchy,

30/08/2008 10:38:55
"Obama: I'll tax rich to help middle classes"

Translation: George W Bush is thick and I'm going to be even thicker.

Tax the rich is just emotionalism translated into economic policy.
28

Itchy,

Lochgelly 30/08/2008 10:39:51
#20
"Whoa-Fascist and left? Man,I must have talents even my mother didn't imagine. See how it works? A statement and a small bit of humor all at once. No charge, gratis."

Fascism is left wing, just like communism. Hitler was a National Socialist.
29

Rosscobhoy,

30/08/2008 12:35:12
So where will all the rich people move to? Sadly, the western economy model is built to ensure the status quo remains. Economies become unsustainable when these kinda measures are brought in. Someone somewhere will always offer the rich a better deal. when they take it, the US would have to make up the loss elsewhere, and end up backing up to where they had been to start with.
30

Nikostratos,

30/08/2008 17:22:41
But will he tax the seriously rich and not just the ordinarily rich
31

Jewel of the Forth,

Fife 30/08/2008 18:39:02
#26 Itchy

I've also heard the racist and marxist rantings of Obama on you tube.
32

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 31/08/2008 11:06:47
All presidential contenders say, " I'll tax rich to help middle classes".

The middle classes love to hear it and they're the great bulk of voters.

33

mike - across the pond,

2 mutts.... 31/08/2008 23:25:36
well I notice that the mantle of fascism doesnt chaffe too much on you....

and you obviously dont think liberation theology is a bad thing... that makes you hopelessly liberal.... and of more concern incapable of accepting that your idols may be.... well.... dead wrong on things...

another example of why an "intellegence test" should be a VITAL part of voting.... if you are incapable of understanding the issues.... you are a passenger... your vote doesnt count...

sit down please, the train is now departing the station
34

57Nomad,

california 01/09/2008 00:05:28
#32 lhtt

lhtt said:

"The middle classes love to hear it and they're the great bulk of voters."

Will you please substantiate your "middle class voters" remark? You couldn't be more wrong. The American middle class, perhaps unlike middle class people where you are from know a couple of things about economics and taxation.

They know that rich people didn't work 18 hours a day for ten or twenty years, which is how rich people get rich in America, in order to bury their money in the back yard. What do they do with the money then? They spend it. That's what they do and every time they spend it, it goes right into the pockets of middle class Americans. If the government gets the money instead, no one ever sees it again. Playing the envy game may work in Europe, it doesn't work here. If someone whines that they don't have enough you'll hear no one say, "that's because Bill Gates has it all!!"

What you will hear from most is something like, "hey, don't spend all your time complaining about what other people have, spend more time working so you can have those things, too. Now quit sobbing, crybaby, and get to work!"
35

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 01/09/2008 01:53:13
#34

"unlike middle class people where you are from know a couple of things about economics and taxation"

Oh really? Tell that to the US "Financial Institutions" responsible for the fiasco in your mortgage market.
36

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 02/09/2008 10:47:42
Stop pussyfooting about, just eat the rich !

 

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