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Published Date: 01 May 2009
A NEW Chinese spy museum exhibits guns disguised as lipstick, hollowed-out coins used to conceal documents and maps hidden as a deck of cards.
What you won't find there, however, are foreigners.

A sign outside the Jiangsu National Security Education Museum in a park in the eastern city of Nanjing states that only Chinese citizens are allowed inside, a policy designed to keep the communist regime's cloak and dagger methods secret – no matter how timeworn they may be.

"We don't want such sensitive spy information to be exposed to foreigners, so they are not allowed to enter," a spokeswoman for the museum said. "Most of the people we turn away are pretty understanding since this is not your average museum."

In an era of spy satellites and cyber-espionage, the exhibits sound almost quaint. Four halls display a history of security practices and equipment dating from 1927, the year the communists began their guerrilla war against their Nationalist foes.

Although would-be visitors who look like westerners are turned away immediately at the door, those who look "clean" and have Chinese features are usually allowed to enter without further checks, the spokeswoman said.





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  • Last Updated: 30 April 2009 10:49 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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01/05/2009 00:11:48
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2dogs in D.C.,

01/05/2009 00:50:00
No outsiders allowed-so how does the Scotsman know what's in there? I somehow doubt James Bond works here as a reporter. Hi,H.C.,how's the dogs?
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Jim A,

01/05/2009 06:31:44
Cankers, do you work in a dog refuge or do you run the place?
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Mashimaro,

China 01/05/2009 08:21:00
The Chinese authorities are quite doolally enough, believe me. Guangzhou is bringing in a "one dog" policy, only allowing one dog per family.
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01/05/2009 10:08:41
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mike - across the pond,

what mashi.... 01/05/2009 14:44:49
ah mashi

I guess 1 dog is reasonable...

how much can a chinese family eat anyway?

that was mean... sorry...

now let me ask you one thing... you want to comment on espionage... and the article specifically mentions "cloak & dagger"...

so, what did you do with those who ran afowl of your spies?...

can you relate THOSE actions to GITMO?
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Arminius,

Teutoburger Wald 01/05/2009 16:11:11
Of course all Chinese citizens are totally loyal and will never reveal the contents of this museum to any western devils or other foreigners, especially not those nasty nationalists on Taiwan.
Maybe Mr Lee from the Sea Palace in Detmold could return to the motherland and infiltrate the museum with a German minox camera.
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Mashimaro,

China 01/05/2009 16:25:04
#7 LOL, Mike. The thing is that the temptation is always there to serve up some dog stew when you know that if you're caught with two you'll be in trouble.

I'm not sure if I understood your question, Mike. I think you are hinting at the torture and execution that goes on in China's prisons, right? I've said quite often on the Gitmo posts that what was done at Gitmo was nothing. Obama is just grandstanding and in the process he's emasculated your CIA.
It is hard to define what does actually go on in China's prisons against what the lying western media wants you to believe goes on in China's prisons. But I think we would have to be pretty naieve to suggest that there is no torture and abuses that go on there.
However
I don't agree with it. I can understand it. Just don't agree with it.
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mike - across the pond,

mashi.... 01/05/2009 20:57:37
actually I'm not one of the guys who go on about chinese prisons... they're there... we both know about them... were both glad we arent in them... and I think we both know that there are bigger fish to fry... on both sides of the pacific...

my question was along the lines...
the "guests" at GITMO are, for all intents and purposes, spies... I dont think either of us will argue that point... they certainly are NOT uniformed enemy combatants...

what do you think your country (and mine is no better) did with captured enemy spies once they outlived their usefulness? hint they never made it to GITMO...

my point is, the US gets a round of jeers and hisses from the world over GITMO... like the world at large would have treated them any better...
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Mashimaro,

China 02/05/2009 03:21:14
#10 Actually Mike, you'll never know what most of those people did. I don't know why you get the impression that they are spies. I think maybe you don't actually understand what happened to many of them. The US basically paid folks for information on likely candidates. So of course anyone with a grudge or anyone in a dirty poor country who was looking to make money... would hand over "suspects". These people were then shipped off to Gitmo if they were lucky. If they were not so lucky they got rendered through another country where they really were tortured, and then they ended up in Gitmo to be waterboarded and force fed. You don't know whether or not they are guilty because there has been no due process of law. You, it seems, are quite happy to sit back when your country goes around picking up civillians and shipping them off to prison on no more evidence than some neighbour pointing the finger.
FYI the Uigher "guests" at Gitmo are actually confessed terrorists against CHINA. But your government wants to let them go.

 

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