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Published Date: 28 January 2008
BARACK Obama was dubbed the "new JFK" by the late president's daughter yesterday, as he celebrated a landslide victory in the South Carolina primary election.
Caroline Kennedy, who has traditionally stayed out of politics, declared Mr Obama the most inspirational leader since her father, John F Kennedy.

"I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them," she wrote in the New York Times. "But, for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president – not just me, but for a new generation of Americans."

Her endorsement came on the same day that her uncle, Senator Ted Kennedy, threw his weight behind Mr Obama's campaign. The Democrat hopeful was celebrating a huge win in the South Carolina primary, which saw him poll double the number of votes of Hillary Clinton.

Mr Obama confounded pollsters who had predicted a modest victory, by winning 55 per cent of the vote compared to Mrs Clinton's 27 per cent.

"We have the most votes, the most delegates and the most diverse coalition of Americans that we've seen in a long, long time," Mr Obama said.

His victory has revived a campaign that had been sagging following losses to Mrs Clinton in the New Hampshire and Nevada primaries. Equally important has been the double-endorsement from the Kennedys, the nearest thing America has to a royal family.

While Mr Obama has support among the junior ranks of the Democratic party, he has struggled to win over an establishment that, until now, has sided with the Clinton camp.

Mr Kennedy, the second longest-serving member of the United States Senate, gave his endorsement the week after the media reported that he had castigated Mrs Clinton's husband, Bill, for "overstepping the mark" in campaigning for her.

Mr Clinton has concerned senior party members by not only supporting his wife, but also acting as "attack dog" to criticise Mr Obama, breaking with a tradition of former presidents staying out of primary races.

"The fact that Caroline Kennedy did it is big, but the fact that Teddy Kennedy – the very voice of the Democratic establishment – has said the torch has been passed, that's huge," said Phil Noble, a pro-Obama Democratic party official.

Mr Obama's victory confounded pollsters who had predicted a racially divided electorate. While Mr Obama won 80 per cent of the black vote, he also secured a quarter of the white vote, more than the 10 per cent polls had predicted.

The women's vote did not seem to help Mrs Clinton either: she won just 30 per cent of female voters, compared to Mr Obama's 54 per cent.

Until now, Mr Clinton has been regarded as an asset to her, to the point where he makes as many speeches as she does in the campaigning.

Yet a CNN post-election poll found that voters were turning against the former president because of his attacks on Mr Obama, the most prominent of which saw Mrs Clinton describe his rival's anti-war stance as a "fairy tale". This poll, and the criticism from Mr Kennedy, may force the Clinton camp into a rethink as the campaign enters its most critical phase.

The Democrats are now preparing for 5 February – "Super Tuesday" – when 22 states go to the polls, including the heavyweights California, Illinois and New York.

With two primary elections apiece, Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama feel they are in a strong position to capitalise on the other's weaknesses.

John Edwards, meanwhile, may be contemplating an early exit. He has come third in three out of the four previous primaries and the best he can hope for will be to use his delegates in the role of "king maker" in the summer convention.

Obama victory down to black and white
BARACK Obama was expected to win the South Carolina primary, but few of his campaign staff dared dream that they might win by a landslide.

As the votes were counted, it became clear that more South Carolinians had voted for him than Hillary Clinton and John Edwards combined.

Mrs Clinton's camp did its best to dismiss his victory, pointing out that the Reverend Jesse Jackson had won the South Carolina primary in 1984 and 1988. South Carolina, in other words, did not necessarily mean much.

But Rev Jackson did not manage to win as much as 10 per cent of the white vote in South Carolina; Mr Obama polled 25 per cent in a tough three-way race.

The Clintons have sought to frame Mr Obama as "the black candidate" – the theory being that white voters will be less likely to support a black candidate if he is defined first and foremost as a standard-bearer for racial and identity politics.

The scale of Mr Obama's victory, however, allowed papers and pundits to report how a "coalition of whites and blacks" had delivered this victory.

His win also pointed to a new south: while just 15 per cent of white voters over 60 voted for him, more than half those under 30 did.

ALEX MASSIE

MCCAIN POISED TO WIN AS GIULIANI'S HOPES FADE

JOHN McCain is poised for a dramatic victory in the Republican primary election tomorrow that may destroy the chances of Rudy Giuliani, the former front-runner.

Following the endorsement by the New York Times and Florida's governor, Charlie Crist, Mr McCain leads the pack for this vital primary election with 27 per cent of the predicted vote.

Mr Giuliani, the former New York mayor who once rode a wave of popularity following his conduct after the 9/11 tragedy, has seen his poll numbers plummet.

Some blame his poor showing on a decision not to campaign in the six previous Republican primaries, saying this starved him of much-needed publicity. He has also been hurt by criticisms that he claimed undue credit for his role after the World Trade Centre bombing.

One hard-hitting television advertisement in Florida contains withering criticism by New York firefighters that, as mayor, Mr Giuliani refused to pay for better radios that could have saved lives when the Twin Towers collapsed.

Just as important, if harder to gauge, may be simple likeability. His hard-edged stance on tax cuts and criticisms of the Democratic Party are in stark contrast to the more homely messages put out by Mr McCain.

He is two points ahead of Mitt Romney, who hopes to add to his recent primary victories in Michigan, South Carolina and Wyoming while Mr Giuliani shares third place in the polls with Mick Huckabee, the Christian Right candidate who has one primary victory, in Iowa.

The Democratic Party has removed voting rights from Florida candidates in protest against a state decision to bring forward the date for its primary, meaning tomorrow's vote will have no influence on its presidential nomination.

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  • Last Updated: 27 January 2008 10:45 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 28/01/2008 01:05:17
Was the daughter giving a veiled public warning to Barrak Hussein Obama
2

doublescotch,

U.S.A. 28/01/2008 02:01:10
#1 You are an idiot.
3

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA..captured from Mexico 1845 28/01/2008 02:29:33
2
doublescotch,
U.S.A.
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Dude Can you prove #1 is an idiot ?
4

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 28/01/2008 02:48:36
Ron Paul is not mentioned in this article & should be. He is far more popular than Guiliani. He's beaten Guiliani in every primary & every caucus so far. Paul has finished 2'nd in 2 states. I think it very possible that Paul will run as an independent in November, he can definitely win a 3-way race. The mass media ignores Paul and this hurts him, but when the people hear his ideas & issues, they really like him.

Caroline Kennedy's brother named John Kennedy was killed in 1999. He had made known shortly before his desire to run for president in 2000. If you look into his death, then you will see it is controversial. I myself believe he was murdered as a pre-emptive action.

5

Vladfan,

planet earth 28/01/2008 02:50:21
Can Ross of Fyffe clarify, is she complaining about Obama because of his name?
6

Encephalon,

28/01/2008 03:01:07
Get your money on the Clintons-Obama will not win in any of the big four -NY, California, Florida or Texas.
7

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 03:05:14
As far as Obama is concerned, he doesnt stand a chance of surviving a year if he wins. One only needs to look at the history of that country, to know they will kill him. Racism is alive and thriving in the US.

This is the nation that is not run by the people for the people. Its run by multi national corporations who decide who gets in. Hilary the lesbian hasnt received all those hundreds of millions of dollars, so she can actually do the job she would normally do. She will just make the rich, more rich and the poor, more poor.

The US needs to get rid of anyone with the name Clinton or Bush, to break the monopoly that both families have had. If she wins the families would have controlled a supposed democracy for nearly 32 years. All they need is Jeb Bush (the one who rigged the vote in florida for his brother) to run next time, to take it to forty.

The Real Power Brokers will never allow Obama to win. Just watch for the same vote rigging, with the counting machines that have been proved as tampered with.
8

right of center,

Chicago 28/01/2008 04:06:30
3 GalacticCannibal

Doublescotch is a very wise person.
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right of center,

Chicago 28/01/2008 04:08:33
Hi Wally,

Bloomburg may run and shoot your dreams of the looney Ron Paul taking the independant spot.

R.O.C.
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57Nomad,

california 28/01/2008 04:29:37
#6 A.B. Way

You know an awful lot about the deficiencies of the American electoral system. It's plain you've given it a lot of thought and made a number of specific suggestions.

Thank you very much for your concern, it warms the heart. It did set me to wondering though. In the recent Scottish elections about 100,000 votes were spoiled. That comes out to a little more than 2.5% of the registered voters. If a similar foul-up were to take place in an American general election that would be a loss of 4,000,000 votes. Thats like having every single voter in the state of Georgia disenfranchised. Not even the harshest or most misinformed critic of the American electoral system accuses the US of such a massive foul up, intentional or not. In view of this, it seems that the time and thought you so generously gave to our election might be better spent tending to your own knitting.
11

Ian_,

usa 28/01/2008 04:50:44
Each primary or caucus has a certain number of delegates at stake. Delegates vote for the nominee at the part convention and are awarded proportionally to Democratic (not Republican) candidates based on their share of the vote. Although Obama won in Iowa he received only one more delegate than Clinton. He lost in New Hampshire but received the same number of delegates as Clinton. He lost in Nevada and received one more delegate. In South Carolina he received many more. This makes the outcome of states with large numbers of delegates (California, Texas, etc) less clear. Obama may "lose" in those states but still receive about the same number of delegates as Clinton. Michigan and Florida have 0 Democratic delegates because of violating party rules. Candidates agreed not to campaign in those states so the results are meaningless, except that Clinton tried to use victory in Michigan to support her candidacy.
12

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 28/01/2008 05:06:44
#5 no ........ she just knows what happens when the people "make the wrong choice" .......... read your history ............
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Jardine,

28/01/2008 06:42:25
JFK himself wasn't that impressive. A johnny-come-lately to liberal causes, he endorsed them only when his presidential ambitions became apparent. In addition, his overblown rhetoric encouraged false expectations among many Americans.
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA..captured from Mexico 1845 28/01/2008 07:24:47
Dudes,

Obama looks good on TV and thats enough to get him elected.
Public memory is short lived and for Americans who don't vote and there are millions of them . Public memory reaches to their last violent move or NFL game they saw.

Beyond that its a vacuum.

Hillary is a dog on TV, but she has the brains and experience of the Sleaze Beltway in Washington DC

GC
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49th State,

In the land of ice and snow 28/01/2008 07:24:53
Today, JFK would be considered a moderate republican. Mc Cain, is the best shot to bring the JFK/Reagan personas and abilties back to this country.

If Romney wins the primaries, my vote is for Obama, however. Mormons are not alowed to have thier own thoughts as humans and they are not allowed to consider the spiritual thoughts of others.
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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 28/01/2008 10:22:19
14...What does that mean "A dog on tv"?...is that an Americanism?...please elaborate....
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Media 1,

cape town 28/01/2008 10:27:00
A Better Way #5

I am not so sure that racism exists! I believe it is more cultural intollerance that exists. Blacks see white people as oppresive and white people see blacks as unwilling and able. (enmasse that is) It would be outrageous for anyone to suggest that all white people are oppresive, they are not! It would be equally outrageous to suggest that all black people were unwilling or able, we know that is not the case. But the perception is what counts!
White societies invented almost everything you see around you, whereas black societies did not! Does that mean white people own the technology around us? Of course not, but the question many white people ask today is "howcome Africa looks like it does? "How come African Americans call themselves African Americans and not just Americans? How come there is an African music awards when the exact opposite would be seen as racist to the core? How come African American societies are not progressing? How come African communities around the globe are not progressing? How come there is a colonial excuse for Africa, but when it comes to Haiti which has been independent for 900 years the same question is ignored?
The cultural intollerance is inevitable. BUT!
And it is a big but. Obama has received tremendous support in a predominantly white nation. He has received far more support that any white man would receive in a black society.
So lets give the American people their due and acknowledge that they are willing to vote for a black man, which I think is tremendous! Good on America!
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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 28/01/2008 11:14:11
18...'Cultural intolerance' if you want to use that euphamism for racism then on you go...it is 'cultural intolerance' that lynched black people and hung these 'strange fruit' from trees in America...that forced black people to stand up and give a whitey a seat on a bus (in the black section) when it was full..and to force a pregnant black woman to stand when there were white seats available.....cultural intolerance.....how come you come out with all of these questions when you seem to have the answers already?...
19

Lynne,

USA 28/01/2008 11:33:04
"Cultural Intolerance IS (PC) for Racism
20

Lynne,

USA 28/01/2008 11:34:51
Jessie Jackson won 11 Primaries in the USA...but was not nominated for President.
21

Media 1,

cape town 28/01/2008 12:35:04
Doreen: If white people were as sordid as you appear to think they are, then slavery would never have come to an end! Africa was gripped with slavery prior to the white mans arrival and David Livingstone put an end to it. In Zanzibar he is revered for his efforts in that regard. In America it was also brought to an end by people with a conscience!
The power lies with the people who own the technology, its always been like that and its not going to change. Humans are designed to self gratify and keep to their own cultures!
Cultural Intolerrance did not lead to black people standing for whites on a bus, that was Africa's lack of progress that made such things happen. Its all about power and knowledge!
Black people and white people are essentially the same in that either can fail, succeed, act responsibly or irresponsibly. Its the communities that differ! and they differ greatly.
America is not a racist nation, if it was Obama would stand no chance whatsoever!
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WKKB,

28/01/2008 12:51:04
#15 49th state says: "If Romney wins the primaries, my vote is for Obama, however. Mormons are not alowed to have their own thoughts as humans and they are not allowed to consider the spiritual thoughts of others."

You have NO idea what you're talking about. You've obviously never actually checked out Mormon doctrine on your own have you? You're probably reading anti-Mormon literature and haven't actually stepped into a Mormon church. You're the kind of person that scares me making judgement calls without the first real clue about what you're spouting off about.

I've been in many Mormon churches through the United States and even in other countries around the world and have the greatest admiration for the Mormon people, who's president (Gordon B Hinckley) incidentally passed away just yesterday. Look at his record for serving and not just the Mormon people but people through the entire world. Did you know that in the Mormon's are always among the first on the scene with food, clothes, water and supplies in cases of national disasters no matter where they are in the world? Did you know that they often supply the Red Cross with supplies to fill their banks? Did you know there are scholarships set up to help under privileged students around the world attend university? You just have NO real idea about Mormons.

And btw, they do a lot more thinking for themselves than most people I've even come in contact with. They just make choices that may not be considered the 'norm' in todays society but is that necessarily a bad thing? Different doesn't mean BAD!
23

Livingstone,

28/01/2008 12:55:16
22 Media 1

My distant relative certainly worked hard to eradicate slavery but did not destroy it on his own. You are correct about slavery existing long before whites arrived, and still exists today.

Keep in mind that Dorreen’s agenda keeps her walking down a very narrow path.
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WKKB,

28/01/2008 13:07:10
#19, What you refer to happened 50 years ago. It's people who can't let go of the past that keep racism alive. People have been ignorant through history but today there are fewer and fewer of those people. Now, like Media 1 says, a black man could be elected to the White House. And, like Media 1 also said there are many schools, competitions etc. who only allow blacks to enter yet you/they don't consider that racism? If a white competition or school didn't allow a black to enter what would the reprocussions be? There are a lot of really intellegent blacks who DO NOT join the racism band wagon because they like myself are tired of the age old whine that the US somehow owes a living to the blacks. That was a long time go... get over it! I also agree that if you're an American you're an American. Why do black people feel the need to make themselves different? How many of those blacks actually came from Africa?????
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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 28/01/2008 13:48:47
Just back from lunch an dsee this has got onto racism,

it is alivea and well in the USA ...............

In May 2006 4 youths killed a family Father, Mother, teenage daughter (14) and baby boy 11 months Father tied up. Mother raped in front of husband then disemboweled and her throat cut.
Daughter then raped in front of father then drowned in bathtub. Baby boy stabbed in the forehead and throat cut. They then stabbed the father 55 times. In court the four stated they didn't just go to rob the family but to kill the father as he did not like black people.
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Aoda,

Pennsylvania Wilds 28/01/2008 14:17:25
Caroline Kennedy endorsing Obama, ho hum. All she did was th use her famous father and to open the door so Ted Kennedy can endorse Obama.

#4 Wally I hope he does run as an independent. It will split the vote and help to defeat the socialist movement.

#7 ABW, you are showing your ingorance of American politics. We do have poll watchers representing each party and they can and do contest the results down to the local level. The dem's watchers challanged the vote in Florida and there was sever recounts. Reason is because Kerry went on a withc hunt. It went thru the court system and the Supreme Court ruled on it. As for rigging the machines, you should remember that it was paper ballot and Kerry was chasing chads. I voted many a year that way and believe me those needles are very sharp and his charges were groundless. Also your remarks about racism in America is wrong. Now, Scotland's last electioln there were 100,000j voted destroyied and the person in charge still has his job. Other than headlines and quite a few remarks what happened to correct disfranchising those voters? Yes, we have our bigots just like all countries do but we have come a very long way and Thomas, Rice and Obama prove it.

President Kennedy, the first president I voted for, was an average president. His charm carried him. He was not a shoo-in for a second term and yes he did make enemies expecially of his fiscal agenda. Kennedy and Regan were more alike politically.

#14j she is a dog on tv.



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Roberta Burns,

28/01/2008 14:25:57
Is anyone else fed up being called Dude?
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Dáithí,

San Jose 28/01/2008 14:48:16
#26 - Fly Fifer

>"They then stabbed the father 55 times. In court the four stated they didn't just go to rob the family but to kill the father as he did not like black people."

Ever hear of the Shankill Butchers? They were British that didn't like Irish. Think meat hooks and knives.

Every country has its warts, unfortunately.
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Dáithí,

San Jose 28/01/2008 14:50:54
#17 - Doreen

When you see her on TV, she looks unattractive, ie, a dog.
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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 28/01/2008 15:05:45
I am still awaiting a response from Galactic Cannibal...

Surf the web...look under 'KKK' 'Stormfront'..'White Alliance'....read the comments of their followers...these knuckle grazing meatheads are full of hate...idiot hate...nice white middle class hate...keep our race pure hate...blacks are evil hate...they put on a nice face of social acceptability but when you dig a little deeper...its astonishing the things that you can find...and its hate...racism..not intolerance..that is an unacceptable euphamism...

The KKK news (wee videos) is the best...hilarious rednecks giving it waffle waffle waffle....bring your popcorn...I have read the insults..the lies re racial inferiority..the propoganda...dont tell me its intolerance...their words are action...

Who cares what Hilary Clinton looks like..I am astonished that it is even raised...the woman is a politician and not there to please anyone's eye...are there really morons out there that believe this to be of issue?....if so your vote should be removed from you...you are a danger to your country...

Who cares what any of them look like?...they are all just politicians.......
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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 28/01/2008 15:21:39
#30 you are correct but here we are talking about a country that permits Black Only Colleges, universities, workers organisations, Police organiations but forbids White only Universities ......and such like

And as for the provos, if it had not been money from americans the they would not have managed to survive ofr so long, it was interesting that when th etwin towers came down all of a sudden the money being sent to Ireland dried up, seeing first hand what religous terrorists can do changed minds
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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 28/01/2008 15:28:04
# 31 ...........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nation_of_Gods_and_Earths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Yahweh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nuwaubian_Nation_of_Moors

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Dáithí,

San Jose 28/01/2008 17:07:19
#32 - Fly Fifer

>"And as for the provos, if it had not been money from americans the they would not have managed to survive ofr so long."

True. So, in your mind, this excuses the 'Shankill Butchers'? I see that you didn't mention them.
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Sandi,

San Diego 28/01/2008 17:10:49
#11 Ian_usa

Could I clarify what you posted without stepping on your toes? it's so convoluted that people overseas find it hard to understand why we wouldn;t elect our president in a democratic way. LOL!

Some States have Primaries where votes are secret as in any other election. Some Primaries are closed so that only voters who are registered in that Party may vote. Others are "open" which may allow certain other designated groups to vote also, or in some cases anyone at all, even from the opposing Party.

Some States have Caucuses which are not generally secret votes, so there can be pressure from others to vote their way. Caucuses can also be either closed or open.


In both methods, in the Democratic Party, delegates are assigned according to percentage of the vote. In Nevada, the outlying, lightly populated areas are "weighted" to give more delegates. That is how Obama ended up with one more delegate than Hillary.

IMO, all Primaries should be closed and there should be no "weighting" of any vote.

In the Democratic party there are also almost 800 "superdelegates". These include all current members of Congress, members of the Democratic National Committee, and a few others. They do not have to assign their vote as the elected delegates do. Currently, Hillary Clinton has more superdelegates in her corner, but that can and does change.

This link has more detail, although after a while it becomes somewhat mind-numbing!

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002649514

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Dáithí,

San Jose 28/01/2008 17:12:46
#32 - Fly Fifer

>"#30 you are correct but here we are talking about a country that permits Black Only Colleges, universities, workers organisations, Police organiations but forbids White only Universities ......and such like"

Sorry, didn't mean to pass over this, Fifer. Your statement is correct, I guess that we can assume that whites don't have a problem with 'black only' organizations but blacks and women DO have a problem with white only organizations?

Sounds like the white guys are a lot more open-minded.
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28/01/2008 17:18:32
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Dáithí,

San Jose 28/01/2008 17:42:53
#37 - witness

>"JFK was dead set against the Zionist political regime in Israel getting the bomb."

JFK was dead set against ANYONE else getting 'the bomb'. He was against nuclear proliferation.

Is yous a world of half-truths, witness?
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Dáithí,

San Jose 28/01/2008 17:50:02
#37 - witness

>"America is a Zionist dictatorship run by a mafia that prints the (fiat) money, invents the illegal wars, then has American teenagers doing the dying, while they do the profiting"

Funny, this is about the same thing that Hitler claimed about Germany in Mein Kampf. Here's a site you'd like, witness:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/


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57Nomad,

california 28/01/2008 18:08:30
#37 tw

tw said:

"America is a Zionist dictatorship run by a mafia that prints the (fiat) money, invents the illegal wars, then has American teenagers doing the dying, while they do the profiting."

That's very interesting. Since you know this perhaps you would be kind enough to name these individuals and cite the sources from which your information came?
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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 28/01/2008 18:08:42
There is not a single person in this world who is not racist in some way
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American,

28/01/2008 20:20:12
#6-encephalon-dont be so sure about that. The press loves obama and is letting him slide on many issues.
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American,

28/01/2008 20:22:08
#17 & 31-Doreen-When we call someone a "dog" it means they are ugly.
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American,

28/01/2008 20:25:58
#15-49th state- You're confusing mormonism with islam. So far, romney is the better out of all of them. He never brings his religion into the picture-except to fools like you who have no idea what you're talking about.
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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 28/01/2008 21:33:46
the only problem with Romney is he is not a christian, apart from that would be a great leader
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American,

28/01/2008 21:34:01
#4-wally-lol. You think everything is a conspiracy.
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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 28/01/2008 21:38:29
http://www.bible-truth.org/arelds.htm

http://www.afcministry.com/Are_Mormons_Christians.htm
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28/01/2008 22:41:53
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 28/01/2008 22:44:37
#28 Roberta Burns

I think if you google him/it/whatever over the past 18 months or so, you will find that a great many people are tired of the dude cr@p and all the wind that emanates from it. Mind you, he/it/whatever has been almost quiet of late. Good thing too.
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John Blackley,

Florida 28/01/2008 23:57:22
Well, it's early in the week but I'm willing to nominate this as the story that attracted the most idiotic, ignorant, stereotypical comments.

I agree that the United States has had some truly horrible history in reace-relations. I agree that the United States has suffered a number of assassinations. I agree that the United States houses a number of people whose attitudes on race would shame normal human beings.

But, let those of you who live in a country without sin cast the next stone and, oh by the way, while I'm at it, would someone please tell me the last person of African descent who was nominated to be Prime Minister of Britain or First Minister of Scotland/
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Hickory,

US 29/01/2008 00:10:29
#4 You neglected to tell everyone that Ron Paul failed at being a Libertarian and now is trying for a ride on another bandwagon. Obama's best suit is that he has not been in politics long enough to be crooked....yet.
He and Romney are both very clean and this drives the back room boys nuts!
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57Nomad,

california 29/01/2008 00:20:13
#48 tw

tw said:

"
Names: Zionists who run Bush, America and invent war
and fake terror." What follow this is a long list of names.

Well, I don't think this will answer anyones questions because you have failed to cite your sources. A long list of names is just a long list of names and no conclusion can be drawn from them. You have accused these men of serious crimes. What do you base the accusations on? Sources please.
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American,

29/01/2008 00:26:44
#50-john-Not to mention the jew-hating posters that visit this site.
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57Nomad,

california 29/01/2008 00:29:21
#31 Doreene

doreene said:

"he woman is a politician and not there to please anyone's eye...are there really morons out there that believe this to be of issue?....if so your vote should be removed from you...you are a danger to your country..."

Doreene it is plain that you are passionate in your beliefs but don't you think that denying people their right to vote is a little extreme? We live in a free country and every citizen is perfectly free to base their vote on the criteria of their choice. A danger to your country? Having someone decide who does and does not get to vote based on their political views in infinitely more dangerous. It's not just dangerous, its tyranny.
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57Nomad,

california 29/01/2008 00:31:44
#50 JB

for that matter when was the last time there was a Catholic in either of those positions?
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Lynne,

USA..PBG, Fl 29/01/2008 00:37:13
Wally...in your dreams...only an idiot would come to a state that ismade up of a large contingent of Retired people, and say he wants to get rid of Social Security!! I doubt that Florida will be voting for Ron Paul.
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29/01/2008 01:07:45
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Dáithí,

San Jose 29/01/2008 01:55:10
#57 - withess

>""I want to thank you for your support of Israel and in particular for waging a war against Iraq," Metzger told Bush..."

Good for Metzger! Unlike Arab leaders that are also secretively happy that an unstable dictator has been removed. Metzger has the courage to be honest.
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29/01/2008 02:15:53
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Dáithí,

San Jose 29/01/2008 02:18:34
#59 - witness

The war against Iraq was a war to remove Saddam. I understand that you want to avoid any mention of Saddam at all, but people see thru as a phony.
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29/01/2008 02:29:45
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Faye,

29/01/2008 02:50:43
The new JFK.....Oh no, heaven help us all!
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Dáithí,

San Jose 29/01/2008 03:59:41
#61 - witness

>"according to the Ashkenazi Rabbi, the war was to remove Iraq in support of Israel"

And you got that from the quote you posted??
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britfreee,

29/01/2008 04:07:53
31 Doreen,The Cyber Shebeen

Troll
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Dáithí,

San Jose 29/01/2008 04:52:48
- witness

Look pal, even when the topic is NOT Israel you miss the REAL conspiracy and interject some clap-trap about Jews. Let me help you out - here's the REAL conspiracy:

Scots are running amok all over over America! I mean, lets be honest here, there are Scots running all about the place. We're literally infested with Scots and have a long history of being this way.

There are great actors, artists, athletes, businessmen, presidents, military leaders, inventors, engineers, writers, musicians; GADZOOKS - even great Native American leaders were part Scots!

They are literally running America!!

I'm talking people like John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood, Donald Trump, Jennifer Anniston, Edgar Allen Poe, Lucille Ball, Jessica Simpson - even JOHNNY CASH AND ELVIS PRESLEY FOR GODS SAKE!

Why do you drivel on about Jews and miss the REAL CONSPIRACY happening within America??

Face it - you don't have the courage to take on John Wayne and Clint Eastwood, do 'ya, punk?

Instead, you bore us with your whining about something that you derived from a quote that doesn't say anything like what you claim it does - as usual.

Time to hang it up, witness. Look here for the REAL conspiracy! ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scottish_Americans
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El Sabio,

South Africa 29/01/2008 09:31:31
The multinationals will decide who will win!

Remember how an unknown peanut farmer was eleected in 1976.

The novel RICH MAN POOR MAN gave us an idea of how the system works

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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 29/01/2008 11:30:17
54...Nomad..if you've got people casting their vote based on the candidates looks boy you are in big trouble...of course I do not believe that people should have their vote removed from them....but yes indeed judgeing by some of the comments here....America is in trouble....

64...Hello my wee pet..coochy woochy coochy..where you bin hiding?...awwwww mammy missed 'er wee trolly wolly...jump up on my knee and I'l give you a crust to chew on........
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Hemingway,

29/01/2008 14:20:06
67 Doreen,The Cyber Shebeen

People are correct, you are a troll. Why can't you just use one name!!! Get a life!!!
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Dáithí,

San Jose 29/01/2008 14:49:03
#66 - El Sabio

>"The multinationals will decide who will win!

Remember how an unknown peanut farmer was eleected in 1976."

He was the last person that the multi-nationals would want, a marginal farmer from Arkansas with a redneck 'Billy-Beer' swilling brother.

His election was a backlash against Nixon and unfortunately he turned out to probably be the worst president in history.
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29/01/2008 16:09:58
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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 29/01/2008 16:26:27
68 & 70.....coochie woochie..pucker up and kiss my ring.....

Troll.
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29/01/2008 16:33:26
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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 29/01/2008 22:17:41
72.....sorry mate...I like playing with trolls....had a huge collection when I was a kid......
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John Blackley,

Winter Garden, FL 30/01/2008 00:45:37
#65 - did you really just say, "do 'ya punk?"

That's so cute! Really, like, retro, y'know?
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Clan-destine,

kyoto 30/01/2008 04:00:42
'OBAMA IS THE NEW JFK SAYS KENNEDY'S DAUGHTER" and look what happened to the first "Catholic" president of the USA!If Mr Obama has his sights set on the white house I hope he's pondering a new wardrobe...like a whole bullet proof outfit..he'll need it if the history of USA's recent past is anything to go by.
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Dáithí,

San Jose 30/01/2008 16:07:23
#74 - John

>"#65 - did you really just say, "do 'ya punk?"That's so cute! Really, like, retro, y'know?"

I'm sure that your keen eye noticed that I made the statement immediately behind the inclusion of Clint Eastwood as a Scot, the 'do 'ya, punk', a line made famous in his 'Dirty Harry' movies.

Good to see that you're on top of things, John! ;)
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57Nomad,

california 02/02/2008 17:20:12

#67 Doreen

Doreen post #31:
are there really morons out there that believe this to be of issue?....if so your vote should be removed from you...you are a danger to your country...


Doreen #67
of course I do not believe that people should have their vote removed from them.

Well, which is it?



Doreen, it looks like you are setting yourself up as the arbiter of the thought police. We have be self-governing for 400 years. No country anywhere is as good at it as we are. We are the senior democracy on planet earth. As a outsider looking in, you may find many things that give you pause. That, if I may say, is overlooking something very important. And, if you are going to point out the weaknesses you should also point out the strengths. It is this very freedom, freedom to base our opinions, political or otherwise, on any damn thing we as individuals chose to base them on, and woe betide the person who comes along and tries to change that, that is our greatest strength. We believe in the individual. Any and all individuals, wise or foolish, are individually accountable and responsible for the consequences of their actions. The common saying is, "if you don't vote, don't bitch."

As for the consequences of following this path we as Americans are content to leave that, as we always have, in the hands of Divine Providence. We have faith in our neighbors and countrymen, we have faith in ourselves, we have faith in our country, and we have faith in God. Because of that, we are not afraid. Let every citizen 18 years of age or older vote, and let them base their criteria on whatever they see fit no matter outrageous it might sound to someone else. Don't you understand, Doreen, that's what it means to be a citizen, that's what it means to be free? We may think another man's point of view is treasonous,or silly, but we believe that he is perfectly entitled to have those views and express them as he sees fit.

 

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