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Published Date: 26 September 2008
HEARTS' employees will find out today if, as promised by the club, their wages have arrived in their bank accounts. The playing staff, who are paid weekly, are expecting last week's wages as well as this week's, while backroom staff are awaiting payment of their monthly salaries, which they normally receive on the 24th of each month.
Last weekend a spokesman for the club said the players would be paid early this week, but on Tuesday the timetable was revised and today became the payment date. Having stated on Wednesday that the "processing" of the money to pay its employees had
been completed, the club remains confident that the new deadline will be met.

The delay in payment was attributed to a "technical hitch", the nature of which has not been made public. Hearts declined to comment yesterday on one report which claimed that Sergejus Fedotovas, one of the club's three directors and a close associate of Vladimir Romanov, had initially been blamed for the error. The report said that high-ranking officials of Ukio Bankas Investment Group (UBIG), Hearts' parent company, had first decided that Fedotovas was to blame, but later went back on that decision.

Whatever is eventually decided by UBIG, the group in which Hearts owner Romanov has a controlling interest, it is clear that the "hitch" has caused the club considerable embarrassment and had an adverse effect on confidence in it. In particular, the plan to build a new main stand at Tynecastle, at a cost of around £50million, is being treated with increasing scepticism.

But, while questions have been raised over the financial viability of such a scheme in the current climate for the construction industry, a leading analyst yesterday said that UBIG did at least appear strong enough at present to prop up Hearts, whose current debt is around £15m. The latest set of company accounts for UBIG show that although the privately-held Lithuanian firm did report a loss for its activities outside of the financial and investment side of its business – the sector potentially most at risk from global economic conditions – it is currently making a profit at net level.

The balance sheet for the company, which was spun out of Romanov's main banking firm Ukio Bankas some six years ago, reveals a strong level of assets to back up the firm's position. The group has stakes in mining and aluminium companies across Europe as well as interests in two other football clubs, Kaunas in Lithuania and MTZ-Ripo of Belarus. Its net profits reached around £5.7m (25.5m Lithuania litas) in the first half of the year, according to the latest publicly available accounts for the six months to the end of June.

Charles Barnett, an accountant for PKF, who specialises in the football industry, said its balance sheet showed a strong level of assets to support any debts owed to the firm. "In Hearts' last set of accounts, it said that the directors were happy with the funding capabilities of UBIG to support it – and looking at the accounts, I can see why they would say that. Looking at their balance sheet, they have strong share capital and reserves which can meet their debts."

But another Scottish analyst raised questions over the viability of putting such a large amount of money into a construction project for a football club already so heavily in debt. The construction industry has experienced a massive slowdown in recent months.

Bryan Johnston, of Bell Lawrie in Edinburgh, said: "It seems UBIG is very much deal-driven, so being able to support a club like Hearts, with plans for a new stadium, would be quite an ambitious project. They would be likely to borrow against a project like the new stadium, but in today's climate, any borrowing on construction is risky."

Marijus Kalesinskas, the managing director of the SEB asset management company in Lithuania, said that the global economic downturn was starting to hit financial institutions such as Ukio Bankas in his country, but said there had been no specific fears over the bank's liquidity. "We are around 18 months behind western Europe in terms of how the credit crunch has affected us," he said. "If things get worse, Ukio Bankas will undoubtedly feel the pressure, although it is too early to tell."





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1

Forward not Back,

26/09/2008 00:09:27
I see Bathgate is researching Kickback again for his stories, lifting UBIG's balance sheet from the site to have it analysed.

Well, he can research Kickback again to find confirmation that the salaries have been paid, the source being an employee of HMFC.

I know you'll be gutted Stuart, as it looked like easy work for the next few weeks. Nae luck!
2

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:10:22
Iv'e got an image of you being exposed to daylight for the first time in years ya saddo
3

The Future's Maroon,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 00:20:20
" leading analyst yesterday said that UBIG did at least appear strong enough at present to prop up Hearts, whose current debt is around £15m"



£15m - where has this figure come from, I keep reading that its £36.5m (please note the sarcasim Hobo's)
4

taIk o' the toun,

26/09/2008 00:25:43
Wages have been paid, everyone's happy.

Now on to the important business. Splitting the OF and building our new stand. With this fiasco sorted out I fully expect the finance to get sorted out now to complete the ground redevelopment.
5

Gordon Smiths 364,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 00:25:52
Dead club walking.
6

Silence of the Yams,

26/09/2008 00:27:15
If you subtract the Gordon 9m and the Bednar 2m it might be anywhere between 15-25m.
7

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:30:21
#12
Interesting use of the word "us"
8

Silence of the Yams,

26/09/2008 00:31:12
12. Can't pay their wages and now he wants a new stand? Comedian!
9

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:39:09
#15
What I meant was you use "us" like you were part of the same entity, like good mates or something.
You could have said "us and Celtic" but you chose not too.
This says quite a lot about you.
10

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 00:40:11
#15
"Finnishing second" and "finnish third".

Your spelling is like your banter.......or have you had too many wine gums after bedtime?
11

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 00:45:52
#16
pundit is using "us" to try and keep in with you Celtic fans. For you see, pundit has delusions of grandeur and likes to remind us poor poor Jambos how much bigger they are on any given occasion. But he'll want to keep you sweet in case you remind him that Celtic are bigger than Rangers and then you'll just upset him.....;)
12

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:49:34
#19
I think he just likes to feel important and wants to be noticed
13

jerrymanders,

26/09/2008 00:50:33
#18

What an outrageous statement. We are not, and never will be, the same entity. Thank God. Now go back to Mordor and consult with your Orcs.
14

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:56:12
#13
As pundit clearly just wants to be noticed thank the lord he's not Finnish
15

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:57:27
#22
There is always soap in the gents at Tynecastle. It's just you don't see it as you have no frame of reference.
16

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 00:59:58
#24
The old firms total domination of Scottish football since the 60's strangely enough coincides with the troubles.
17

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:04:03
#22
No music at halftime?.....oh please...let it be true. If I have to listen to Keane again I think I'll kill myself.

18

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:05:23
thepundit and bto - It's just as well you are constantly laughing at your own jokes, because nobody else is.

Every Celtic fan I know detests the constant use of the 'Old Firm' tag. What we resent is 'guilt by association'.

So please . . . less of the 'us' if you don't mind. We prefer to speak for ourselves.

Good news for Hearts and Scottish Football that the wages appear to have been paid. Maybe now we can all get back to the Football.
19

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 01:07:37
I admit it makes me sad that money has killed the game.
It must have been great to see the famous 5, the fine Hearts team of the 50's or Dundee in the 60's.
It would be amazing to see big supports for teams like Raith and East fife.
But you would not understand that. You are only interested in making yourself feel superior.
20

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:09:26
#28

Quick question. Who's bigger? Celtic or Rangers?
I'd love to hear your answer.

(oh and the Der Kasier is cos I can't access my normal name for some reason? A pox on you Scotsman!!!!!)
21

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 01:11:15
For you maybe, you spend way too much time on the computer.
22

Teary Ennui,

26/09/2008 01:11:27
"The old firms total domination of Scottish football since the 60's strangely enough coincides with the troubles." (#26)

:0) I think you'll find the Old Firm won a few things before that.
23

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 01:12:07
#37
Clue is in the word total.
24

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:14:13
#38
Clearly has on yours.
25

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:17:24
#31 and #32 - Celtic take 80,00 to Seville and no arrests plus they receive awards from both UEFA and FIFA.

Rangers take 150,000 or whatever to Manchester and cause mayhem and try to kill a few cops.

Go figure.
26

DekNZ,

26/09/2008 01:18:19
"without rangers celtic are nothing and vice versa, FACT" - pundit

Whithout the rest of Scottish football you'd be playing each other every week so without the other clubs the infirm would be NOTHING - FACT! Fek of to engerlund - ah they don't want you either!!
27

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 01:19:44
#42
I am quite happy with how things are at my club right now
28

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:22:13
Is it just me and pundit as the only Jambos on here tonight ???????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????.................Oh naw....it broke!
29

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 01:31:20
#49
It doesn't bother me at all. football is no longer an enjoyable inclusive experience anyway.
I was up at inverness the other week and it was £15 for bairns to get in. I never paid once as a kid back in the day.
I don't blame the old firm for that but money has ruined the game.
30

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:31:27
#50
What is that? Is it one of those magic eye posters?
Oh wait...I can see a 3D image coming out.....it looks like a clown.
31

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:34:28
#51
Any government plans from banning you to procreate?
32

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:35:57
Anyway...it's late and this internet thingy has pictures of lassies with their clothes off....so what in Gods name am i doing talking to yous!!!!!
33

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:36:10
Celtic would have a chance of getting into one of the English leagues, but after Manchester, Rangers can forget it. Scotland is stuck with them I'm afraid.
34

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:36:48
#57
The drive in is nice.......
35

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

26/09/2008 01:37:15
My club have lived within their means and secured thier future. What more can they do at ppresent. I am happy with that.
Look at the mess Hearts are potentially in, that is the other option.

I defy any true football supporter to come on and defend the way the game is going.

36

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:39:47
#58 Kaiser - LOL.

I got 2 scantily clad ladies sitting snogging on the couch waiting for me to join them.
37

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:40:07
#62
Rubbish. You don't even try to be funny.....
38

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:41:20
I'm back . . . they told me to take a hike.
39

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 26/09/2008 01:41:44
Keep the Heinz and HP on standby.
Bathgate and his shadowy analysts may be up for a word supper.


"The balance sheet for the company, which was spun out of Romanov's main banking firm Ukio Bankas some six years ago, reveals a strong level of assets to back up the firm's position."

Mad Vlad's best l'il buddies better be right.
40

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:42:35
OOPS sorry.

Turns out they said, "Take what you like."

See ya.
41

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:43:39
#68
85% of high school students who support Rangers said when interviewed "Work?...whits that?"
42

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 01:44:58
I think it is highly significant that my parting shot was post 69.

Ciao.
43

Der Kasier,

26/09/2008 01:57:08
#77 & #78

"A man's got to know his limitations" - Harry Callahan

You guys don't.

Message Ends.
44

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 02:34:21
66 Tam

Have they managed to get those blow up dolls to talk as well?
45

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 02:55:15
84 bto

Hearts for a draw
Tic to win by 2
Bairns to win by the odd goal
ICT win by the odd goal
Well to win by the odd goal
Gers to win by the odd goal.
46

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:00:30
Morning all...

Like all decent footie fans,I'm glad that the wages seem to have been paid and we can move on to matters on the pitch rather than read through the 'O' level accountancy brouhaha of the last few days....

Whit happened to the 'gers V Hamilton thread...? All I did was mention ADRIAN SPROTT and it was shut down...Agenda?
47

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:02:59
88 Swordsman

What is with you and getting threads closed down?

And you call yourself a decent footie fan. lol
48

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:04:12
Celtic 4 Aberdeen 1
DU 1 Hearts 1
Falkirk 1 Hamilton 0
ICT 1 Killie 1
Motherwell 2 St Mirren 1
Hibs 1 Rangers 1

Just for the craic you understand...
49

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:06:33
91

What name are you in the mini league?
50

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:06:37
Dman..Guess it was a combination of my candour and rapier like wit that got the thread shut down...oh and Walter's Blue and White army/Rabbie Burns recruitment drive for the BNP...Ah well!
51

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:08:52
BTO..Working Sat
Dman..not in the league as was on Hols when it started..unfair of me to give you all a showing up anyhow..
52

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:15:26
95

Our thread expert, thepundit is struggling in the league so far, but its early days yet.

Golfed with a lad today who is legally blind, they took his driving licence away a few years ago, he still has partial vision but no peripheral vision, and he hammered us all shooting an 81.

Showed him where the bar was as soon as we got to the club, so he had no excuses.
53

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:20:17
Dman..Got a pal back home who lost his sight a few back.Since then he has learned to swim,abseil,kayak and is now training as an SPL referee....Last one is a joke..;@)like that would ever happen...
54

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:24:30
97

He could take over from Brines.

To echo what you said regarding the Hearts, by all reports the money has been paid, and here is hoping they are back on solid financial ground.
55

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:27:22
98 bto

Go ugly early and you're on it, it will save you from chasing a skirt at 1am, by that time they all look the same anyway.
56

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:30:50
Dman..
Stevie Wonder challenges Tiger Woods to a golf match for $20,000 a hole.Tiger says "How can you play if you are blind?"
"Easy"Says Stevie,"My caddie goes down the fairway and shouts "STEVIE,STEVIE,STEVIE" and with my great sense of hearing I can direct the ball to him.."
"What about on the green" says Tiger...
"Easy" says Stevie,"My caddie lays on the ground behind the hole and whispers "STEVIE,STEVIE,STEVIE" and with my great sense of hearing,I can find the hole...
"Amazing!" says Tiger..."When do you want to play..?
"How about 2.30 am tomorrow" says Stevie..
57

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:40:45
103 Swordsman

What is the Radisson St. Helens hotel like?
58

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 26/09/2008 03:41:13
Pundit your still a phanny.

TOGETHER

MON THE JT'S
59

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:42:24
105 bto

I just got off the throne an hour ago.
60

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:45:42
Dman..In south Dublin..Very grand (and up its own bahookie as all S. Dublin places are)I'm a northsider so cant really comment on the facilities.....
61

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:49:21
BTO..Why would I want to follow in the footsteps of a bunch of German chancers who only got on the gravy train because they were "available" to stem the tide of RC dominated royalty in Europe (Think those others were Twonks too guys,so no religious crud please!)
62

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 26/09/2008 03:50:35
#109

It disnae get cloudy here.

Your a phanny as well.

TOGETHER

MON THE JT'S
63

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 03:52:23
110 S.

Thats where the wife is staying while there on business.
64

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 03:55:38
Dman...Better off with the Grand Hotel,Malahide.10 mins from the airport,by the sea,great wee town with bars,restaurants etc and 25 mins into the city...
65

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 04:00:01
116

She does not have much say in the booking as it was done by her company. I am sure she will get some time to take in the city sights between meetings.

I will have to rough it in Myrtle Beach SC with the lads, they have some great bars as well
66

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 04:02:45
117 yeah, but can you stand all those gloating yanks reminding you about the Ryder Cup?Handy that you have a bag of clubs with you in case you feel like getting "physical"...
67

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 04:04:22
118

I nearly forgot about the golf. Thats right its a golfing holiday.
68

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 04:07:00
118

There is a RFC supporters club in Charlotte NC, its about a 2.5 hour drive so we can go and watch any Gers match that is on while we are there.
69

Daillyman,

26/09/2008 04:11:08
Later lads, and again good to hear the Hearts should be okay, good news for the SPL and the supporters.
70

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 04:14:26
So that would be the NCRFCSC then...Catchy!
71

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 04:15:16
Me too as its 4.20 am here later all...
72

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 26/09/2008 05:38:26
Even if the club went into administration, although it is far from it. No way would it close. It would be taken over. Maybe half of the people who are ready to slag people off should look at themselves first and see how much they owe the bank. As for the poor players having to pay bank charges I am sure they had enough in their accounts to pay their direct debits.

So is this a football section or a Financial Times extra. So let us get on with the job in hand, Dundee United. CL v CL. Please our CL no Mole this week he is along way from being a striker. He has played reasonably well but no striker, young Glen can score.
73

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 06:49:35
I say that was fun.

So, did I miss anything?
74

Harlem Tam,

26/09/2008 06:57:16
Celtic 3-0 Aberdeen
Dundee United 1-1 Hearts
Falkirk 0-0 Hamilton
ICT 2-1 Killie
Motherwell 2-1 St Mirren
Hibs 1-1 Rangers
75

Joak,

TimBuckToo 26/09/2008 06:59:47
Vlad....sell, sell,sell.
Sean Connery......BUY, BUY, BUY.
76

obi,wan,

banana republic 26/09/2008 07:17:48
BTO you are so funny man. SCOTSMAN please bring back the weegie threads so we true fitba fans don't have to suffer anymore of thier inane drivel.



HHGH
77

Johnny Jambo,

26/09/2008 07:18:23
How long will this story run, they wages have been paid.
This is becoming a serial, next it will be Hearts players have been paid, next week and the week after and so on.
These kind of mistakes happen so lets just get on with it.
78

carrottop,

Dumfries 26/09/2008 07:45:59
Why do the BBC report in their sports gossip (attributed to Scottish Sun) that Vlad has just turned down a substantial bid by foreign (more) businessmen for Hearts and nothing mentioned in the Scotsman.
79

Tam Flogel,

26/09/2008 07:46:19
Bathgate you plank. So yesterday there was "little room for manoeuvre" because the debt stood at £26m and today it is £15m. Was there another rights issue last night that I missed? Or, as is more likely, are you making up the numbers as you go along, reading what other people who have no more inside knowledge than you post on here and writing it up as if it has been researched. The fact the numbers are so far apart in 2 articles written by you in 2 day shows this up for the lazy fiction posing as journalism which it undoubtedly is. Unfortunately I can't complain to your editor because, erm that's you. Get the blue pen out and do one on your own articles...
80

Addie,

26/09/2008 07:47:49
FFS I come into work and all I read is Beavis and Butthead chatting about finance and economics!

Here is my expert anlysis in the current financial prediciment..

HEARTS WILL BE OK. Move along now Beavis, nothing more to say...
81

Addie,

26/09/2008 07:48:26
#137 It did mate, but blink and you'll miss it!
82

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 07:58:07
The wages got payed on Wednesday afternoon so not sure why this is still going on! same again nothing better to draft up!

141#

You are hanging aroung the hearts threads like a green & white leech.
83

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 07:59:29
141#

Just remember that statement & I will have a chat with you at the end of the month!

Fricking doughball
84

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:06:15
145#

Not sure what you mean dumbo! I think you should take some of your on advice!

Why in the the name of god do you continue to come on these threads spewing all your nonsense! Its people like you that start rumours. Your not that bright are you now FRICK OFF
85

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:11:26
I run my business from home! same question to you! should you not be cleaning the toilets just now!

86

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:15:33
148#

At the end of the day its not your fault that you cant move away from JT's made up stories & cling on to them like a STD but for god sake mate come on & start talking sense!

Nothing you are saying is making any sense & I have shown these comments to two of my Rangers mates who just laugh at your complete & utter nonsense!

Will you just follow your own team you have had your say now just move on! Maybe come back at the end of the month so we can have a little chat about your predictions
87

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 26/09/2008 08:18:28
Tomorrow's headline by Bathgate/Banderson:-
Hearts employees will find out today if the money they have been paid is real or just some untrusty Lithuanian hacking into their bank accounts.
88

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:19:14
152#

I will have 2 hotdogs with onions then! come on make it snappy!!!!
89

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:23:13
156#

4 Hotdogs no onions
90

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:26:59
155#

2 Hambugers, 1 coke

immaturity now is that not just the funniest thing coming from you
91

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 08:28:48

When I said a few weeks ago that Hearts were actuallt £13.7 million in debt people laughed...

I then told you UBIG were solid - again people laughed...

I look forward to the laughs when i tell you that planning permission is only 3 weeks away from being granted - The construction will begin at the end of this season and anyone who wants to join me in a glass of champagne from my box on the opening day of season 2010/11 is more than welcome to join me.

I look forward to seeing you in the Aegon stadium...oooppps did I let that slip as well!!!
92

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 08:31:50
Wookie ..Sorry mate,I must decline you generous offer as I will be lapping up the Champers at Celtic Park as the fifth league flag in a row is unfurled....
93

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 08:42:16
162#...Great answer

163~....loser!!!

94

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:42:49
Ok so you can copy & paste!

Well done hotdog man!!!


1 chips & cheese & a cup of tea
95

Naeboz,

26/09/2008 08:44:47
Hearts staff have been paid, see other thread!!!
96

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 08:45:51
Wookie hopefully we can now dispense with the third year economics and return to ripping the pash and gassing about the fitba....
97

hibbyspurs,

26/09/2008 08:46:30
#160....

And it was also the likes of you who told us with 100% certantiy that a certain now ex-Celtic player would be donning the maroon & white of Hearts wasnt it?

Therefore I'll treat your predictions with a rather large dose of salt mate.

When you come out with comments like that mate I really do wonder if you spend most of your time living on the planet Kashyyyk.......
98

LyonHearts,

le teil 26/09/2008 08:49:39
Stupid headline, stupid non-story, stupid journalists, stupid paper!

Nothing about team news for the game tomorrow! PATHETIC GUTTER SNIPE JOURNALISM AT IT'S VERY WORST!

...and apprently it took two of them to write this guff!

Jambos are stronger than any of them could ever imagine!

MON THE HEARTS
99

Red Dykes,

Highland 26/09/2008 08:53:03
In the current financial climate - non payment of wages is the first crack in the dam - ask the (ex) Gretna staff
100

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

26/09/2008 08:55:31
Well I wonder if this non story will be rescinded now and all the wee muppet men from Fester Rd will need to think of something else to make themselves feel better?! Well done to the media though,followed everyone of yourselves like lost sheep.
101

Alex123,

Tynecastle 26/09/2008 08:56:21
1 Chip! means just one chip!

Now get frying goldielocks!!!
102

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

26/09/2008 08:57:41
171 It is also every year that you will do better than Hearts that sadly has only happened 4 times in the last 25 years.You lot should keep your weeteam gubs shut as you should know better by now!!
103

LyonHearts,

le teil 26/09/2008 09:01:04
# 174 Maybe there is a crisis and maybe Hearts are doomed ( or maybe this crisis will blow over, nobody knows) but the treatment our club gets from the press and supporters of other teams is diabolical!

MON THE HEARTS
104

Who?,

26/09/2008 09:08:01
So...

The biggest non story of the month turned out to be a- NON STORY! While anybody with a fraction of intellegence could work that one out the same old, same old sad acts and frustrated kiddy fiddlers tried to convice us otherwise.

What headline will the EEN run at lunchtime- Players spend salaries? Will there be an undercover reporter following Christophe Berra round Waitrose analysing the contents of his shopping trolly?

Johnson Press shares are diving quicker than shaun maloney in the penalty box so if i were Stuart Bathgate and Jane Bradley i would be looking to pen an article that could be attached to a CV. This sort of garbage will only get you to the dole cue.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 09:08:12
#181 We get on with our lives, meet real people, form relationships, that sort of thing.
Why. What do you do?
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:09:11
Mornin Chaps and diddles and BTO

Predictions for the weekend

Celtic 3-1 Aberdeen
Dundee Utd 1-2 Hearts
Falkirk 1-0 Hamilton
Inverness CT 0-2 Kilmarnock
Motherwell 1-1 St Mirren
Hibernian 2-1 Rangers

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hibbyspurs,

26/09/2008 09:10:41
#178

Yaawn......

Get a life Statto....

Do Hearts fans get taken to a special class in school so they can lear all about regurgitating their past glories?

Only interested in today mate I'm afraid. Whats in the past is past and only the future awaits. However you feel free to wallow in sentiment about your clubs supposed great history.

I'm not for a second saying you shouldnt celebrate great things your team has done but if the pinnacle of that achievement is merley finishing ahead of Hibs then that says far more about your ambitions for your club than I ever could.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 09:14:18
#186 That sounds like some fulfilling life you've got yourself there Mr On.
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hibbyspurs,

26/09/2008 09:16:07
#184

Morning GF.

Good shout, lets talk about the upcoming football, rather than the past or the rather tedious "non"-subject of clubs finances (or lack thereof)

Predictions:

Celtic 2 - 0 Aberdeen
Dundee U 1 - 1 Hearts
Falkirk 1 - 1 Hamilton
ICT 0 - 1 Kilmarnock
Motherwell 2 - 1 St Mirren
Hibs 12 - 0 Rangers ;-) (1-1)

I quite like how you fancy Hibs to beat Rangers, think it'll be a close game myself and a scoring draw is the likely outcome (sadly).
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hibbyspurs,

26/09/2008 09:17:44
#187

You would though.....
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:26:45
#189

We may have some banter etc but when i predict scores or place a bet when im being serious i do try and do it with some sense on what i actually believe the result will be, there are those not too far away would bet or predict not using their heads m8.

The Hibs v Rangers match I agree i think it will be tight, only reason Ive went for you is usually you play well against them and its at easter Road giving you that slight advantage, plus Rangers had to play 120mins of midweek football.

The Hearts result TBH if it was a bet for money i would not bet, one thing i never do is bet on my own team, again i think this could be tight, I just think we might edge it we have a few players back and Tullberg at least should be on the bench, Im hoping he is as good as csaba says he is, although I don't think he's our answer to a 20+ goals a season striker we need, I would like to be proved wrong there of course.

Celtic game, not much to say really Aberdeen are in freefall, and I would imagine the jaffa is now favourite ahead of Mixu to be first for the chop,

The other games TBH are hard to predict and could go either way, as we have saw all these teams take points from each other, Killie are on a strong run just now and building momentum, Falkirk are onto winning ways i beleive they just needed that first win to get moving cause some of the football yogi has them playing is good stuff (Hibs could do a lot worse than to have him as manager)
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Sarajevoiwasthere ,

London 26/09/2008 09:28:50
Quality Journalism that puts the Records talk of strikes to shame. It makes me proud of the country I come from.
Apparently Vlad is to blame for everything and so he should be. Why should the American Taxpayer bail him out.It was his own fault. I knew this would happen. It all started with Burley. I've been telling you for years. HBOS is better than UBIG. Riordan' no a ned. Hearts are evil. BLAH BLAH. Where's ma methodone dad.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 09:28:54
#190,192 - but mainly the box sets?
Which ones? ER? Only Fools and Horses?
114

SouthSideHibs,

26/09/2008 09:29:45
#160 - so basically this WAS/IS a 'total non-story', everything in the garden is rosey, UBIG are immune from the global crisis in financial markets and Aegon are sponsoring the stadium.

It's more likely that this story will come back round again before too long IMHO. Too many stories doing the rounds about unpaid bills, lets be clear this wasn't a 'technical hitch' in IT terms it was due to 'cash-flow'...
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:30:54
#195

Id have thought the chuckle brothers box sets would be more in line with his mentality and sense of comprehension
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26/09/2008 09:33:43
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:36:40
#200

I dont need knifes for you lot BTO, a bar of soap and a bucket of water is all the armourment i need to have you running away scared.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 09:37:13
#198 You see? I knew after our conversation yesterday that you were an intelligent man! A level above the usual half baked financial ramblings round here.

So what do you advise the IMF on?
119

VictorianGorgie,

26/09/2008 09:37:40
good god. lost for words.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:38:15
#199 MTG

Awrite m8 hows things?

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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:40:28
#202

I think he got his letters around the wrong way m8.

He advises MFI on how to put two thick planks of wood together, he even has diagrams. They consist of Himself and PunT1T lying in bed together.
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Maroon tinted glasses,

26/09/2008 09:41:05
201 GF, Morning

i agree and have the scene from the wizard of oz in my head when they threw the bucket of water over the witch.

"im melting, im melting" should be replaced by "im washing, im washing" as he curls up into a methadone/buckfast induced coma!!
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Maroon tinted glasses,

26/09/2008 09:42:31
204,

not bad, and you??
124

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 09:43:21
199...Awww, and here was me gonna congratulate you on your teams bouncebackability in the realms of finance...No ned for the soapdodger moniker..we all dont have access to "Lush" and its Lavender Bombs like you dandies on the east coast...
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:43:29
#206

Yeah always better to use exfoliating soap. Has that reached the shops in Glasgow yet?
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:46:19
#208

Doing well MTG cheers.

#209 Swordsman

Nothing wrong with a lush bath bomb.

BTO and Pundiddles have their own methods for bath bombs however. I wont go into it on a public forum that can be accessed by children.

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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 09:52:04
Lysol and carbolic soap for me when I were a nipper...That was exfoliation for REAL MEN...
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:53:07
#213

Just keeping in line with your very outdated repetoire.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:54:39
#214

What no steel wool and ajax?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 09:56:54
GF only the "well to do kids" had that...I'm from a very poor background.Our house was so damp that when the sun shone through the windae,there was a rainbow over my bed.....
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 09:59:23
#217 RSE

What site are you trying to reguster on m8?

This is the link

http://www.edinburghderby.streamlinenettrial.co.uk/html/index.php

And no wasnt involved in the Pro-Boards one you mention, Did have other forums but not the one your thinking of.
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the beast,

London 26/09/2008 09:59:35
Wry humour courtesy of the Guardian:

Dear Mr Ashley

Greetings. Firstly, I must solicit your confidence in this transaction. Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make anyone apprehensive and worried, I assure you that all will be well at the end of the day.

Let me start by introducing myself to you. It may surprise you to receive this email from me, since there was no previous correspondence between us. I am the representative of a Nigerian Consortium. My purpose in contacting you is to help secure the football club you are in the process of running into the ground. My clients have £400m (or £480m, or £350m, depending on which paper you read) in an account at a Bank.

This Bank has issued me a notice to contact anyone in possession of a) a football club and b) a creeping sense of panic and desperation. Hence I am contacting you with regards to ensuring a happy and amenable swap. Just send us your bank details and football club and we will deposit £400m (or £480m, or £350m, depending on etc and so on) into your account. In return, you must give up this ridiculous notion of hiring Kenny Dalglish, Terry Venables or David O'Leary and, instead, give Newcastle hero Kevin Keegan his job back. We have a further £75m to deposit in his account so he can blow it on tat like he did at Manchester City. Oh, and he has to sign Yakubu, 'cos he's Nigerian.

If you wish to achieve this goal with me, kindly get back to me on my private email address:- NigerianConsortium@hotmail.com

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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 10:01:05
reguster? that would be register. BTO has me speaking weegie
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Maroon tinted glasses,

26/09/2008 10:02:39
Ronaldo, if you are talking about the edinburgh dery site then i had problems with it last night and had to come out and go back in a couple of times before it worked properly.
135

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 10:03:07
Wee joke fur aw you Embra tpe gadgies...

Q:How do you make a ouija board....

A:Take away his drink and drugs.....
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 10:03:49
#211 Really? That is impressive - I didn't even know the IMF go involved in that sort of thing! The Japanese state pension I assume? In fact I don't even know if the Japanese have the same private pension provisions we have in the UK?

That does sound particularly difficult actually (or actuarially!), it's not that long ago that interest rates were close to zero in Japan if I remember correctly. How would you overcome that? Surely a nil discount rate would be completely impractical, or do you just have to bite the bullet and go for it in those situaions?
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We love fitba,

google! 26/09/2008 10:09:10
"Current debt is around £15m".

Hmm... I'd take that with a hefty bucket of salt. The last reported figures were much higher than that, all else is speculation, frankly.
138

Maroon tinted glasses,

26/09/2008 10:10:17
230, above the ribs, attatched to the shoulder!
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 10:11:12
#226 MTG

Did you get logged onto it eventually? I notice ive just had to log in this morning myself which is strange as i havent cleared my cache on my pc and i should have been remembered so no need for logging in. There could have been work carried out last night on the server, but everything appears ok.

Anyone having problems with activation emails etc.

Try looking in your "Junk Items" folder as hotmail/Yahoo and some anti virus software which has anti/spam built in will think it is spam email.

If you still do not have it, leave a message in the Forum titled "Site problems" i can look up your account and see if it is actually registered and manually send you an email from the server.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

26/09/2008 10:12:26
OMG! BTO genuinely appears to believe he works for the "Japanese arm of the IMF" whatever the flick that is.

Aye right, and I'm Andrew Sentance.

Always healthy to start the day with a good laugh. And BTO generally obliges.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 10:13:52
#233 CONT

I meant to add, that forum titled "Site Problems" i have deliberately left open for people to be able to post as a guest if they cannot get theor accounts activated. so you dont have to be registered to post in there.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 10:16:11
#235 Roscoe

Another Riley it would appear.

Next he will be telling us he's off on a golfing holiday around the Florida Keys with models on board as he sits at his laptop speaking on the Scotsman/EN forums.

BTO how long does it take you for a round of golf?
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 10:19:12
#234 5% discount rate? When interest rates are 0.5%?!
Well, I must admit, I admire your cahonies sir! That must be some equity-heavy investment strategy you're condoning there!
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 10:23:50
#15 - You are the re-incarnation of that world famous predictor Media 1 aren't you...

...#30 - Damn right! Amazing how when they get nervous they try even harder to drag us down to their level...

...#143 Alex 123 - "You are hanging aroung the hearts threads like a green & white leech"...

...make that bloo leach please, he's a rioters fan...

...#160 The Wookie - "anyone who wants to join me in a glass of champagne from my box on the opening day of season 2010/11 is more than welcome to join me"...

...You're on! I can miss the 5th flag day, let's face it, it'll be the same as the 4th and the 6th...

...anyone else find it funny that there seems to be a few followers of Steptoe & Son FC trying to revel in the 'financial crisis'(?) at HMFC when RFC are heading for season's end debts of around 30m with no income this season from Europe, (sighs of relief all around the continent), all their 'valuable' players gone and having heard the ominous 'belt tightening' statement from their own club recently?...

...especially since they were whining at everybody for 'slavering on' about RFC being in financial do-do when their books were cooked uuhhmm I mean released a few days ago...

...still, I suppose they can find solace in the recent derby win, oh, and not to forget the fixed income JJB merchandising masterstroke :-p.......
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 10:24:27
#241 Eeep. Any idea what the mortality outlook is for Japan? If it's anything like the UK you might as well close up the funds now!
146

paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 10:26:11
235

BTO actually works for the bangkok ho boys strip club....

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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 10:28:26
244

Steady there.....

BTO is on thread-a-athon for charity....

He does this at least 5 times a week to raise cash for retired Japanese male strippers...
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 10:29:01
#242 Slaine

Include the 50million loan they recieved from the wealthy Rangers fan some time ago and the opoutlook could be even worse if he starts begging for it back
149

Rolland,

26/09/2008 10:30:03
Well well well, all fully paid as promised.

Unbelieable how much hot air some parties have spouted about this non issue. Technical hitch resolved and everyone paid as promised, now will they be printing an apology? Nah of course not. Will it stop punt1t and bore them all, tommytommy et all from spouting there nonsense and anti vlad / hatred of vlad, of course it won't.

Mr Romanov is a man of honour a man of his word but don't let that get in the way of spouting hot air.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 10:32:20
#246 Oh. I got the impression that the folk round here loved getting involved in the nitty gritty of world finance!
And I must admit, I'm fascinated by the problems you must be facing with pensions in Japan, it's a different world out there really. And couple that with the fact that the data doesn't seem to be up to the job either and I wouldn't even know where to start. Sounds like there could be a big old hit coming for the Japanese economy too.

How long have the share and property prices been increasing at that rate? Interest rates have always been low in Japan, so it strikes me that if they'd followed that from the start they wouldn't have this potential timebomb on their hands. Easy with hindsight I guess!
151

devries 4,

hobo city 26/09/2008 10:33:39
hobos cant count they keep saying debts of 25 m summary of facts 7m for inital gordon payment 2.5 for roman and 12m written off equity £21.5m 36.5m - 21.5m = 15m debt which they have stated doh
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 10:36:16
#253 Mmm. But going forward? Any idea if the outlook is positive/negative/other?
153

Lord of All Mordor,

26/09/2008 10:36:48
#21
Behave yourself. In Mordor all football supporters are regarded as inadequate and inferior beings which are unfit to clean the boots of our Orcs. They are always decapitated when we find them.
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devries 4,

chico 26/09/2008 10:38:24
daily record and the sun giruy u weegie doom mongers tynie in turmoil again yawn wheel out old man foulkes yes in ur warped bigotted minds u hope they really hate us dont they classic chic young on wednesday another gretna is going to happen exclusive from the brown nosing walter fan
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 10:38:47
242

Their books were released?

I think you'll find the full accounts have not yet been published for public scutiny......all we've had are selected figures being announced.....

So if anyone can point us in the direction of the published public accounts.....we would be grateful....

Considering the recent climate of property prices.....I wonder if Ibrox will continue to have an upward valuation?

The overall figures had a heavy reliance on the stadium value....
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devries 4,

soapdodger city 26/09/2008 10:42:54
they should just ban them from the club if i was vlad id take them to court including traynor jackson ralston and chic for slander and defimation and see them squirm in a court of law
157

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

26/09/2008 10:59:32
"Akasaka-the poofs place."

So it's true, travel really does broaden a persons mind!
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 11:00:15
#261 The entire policy? What, the annuity??
159

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:01:52
FFS can we leave the "Working Lunch" twaddle...any more of this shoite and I'll hang myself with my bright red braces.....
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:04:09
#257

Ibrox and the surrounding area were massively over valued in the first place. Now the world economy is on a downturn Murray will be producing bucket loads of the brown stuff very soon.

Is it true that the Land next to ibrox cannot be used for building premises due to industrial contamination? and would cost Millions to de-contaminate, that is the reason Rangers pie in the sky Ibrox mini village has never went further forward than a dream?
161

paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 11:04:58
Hang on a second lads......

I think 258 and 264 are a couple of actuaries.....which will lead to a mind numbing tiit for tat
162

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:05:55
GF...all that rancorous bile over the last 125 years was bound to seep into the surrounding land eventually....
163

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

26/09/2008 11:07:06
267 - It never went further forward due to their being no money to do it. Industrial contamination would only become a factor if Rangers were suddenly to stumble upon 700 million quid.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

26/09/2008 11:07:52
#269 You said the entire policy was linked to stock prices. Just wasn't sure which part of the pension you meant.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:08:37
#270

There is that as well m8, unfortunately that kind of filth cannot be de-contaminted

I was being serious when asking the question though. It's something id heard and wasnt sure if it is accurate, just wondered if anyone here knew.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

26/09/2008 11:08:37
BTO - the original rennaisance man.

Try to keep the nonsense a bit more subtle my man, more people will believe you that way.
167

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

26/09/2008 11:08:43
Escort me around? Where? The 'poofs place'?

Is that supposed tobe a witty comeback?
168

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:08:47
Ibrox Village? Would that make the 'gers support the WE arra Village Peepil?
Altogether now,Y M C A...
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

26/09/2008 11:10:37
273 - master of none.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:12:24
#277

Can just picture Barry "Side pass" Ferguson dressed up with the leather cap and chains doing all the actions. Maybe that could replace Tina Turners Simply the best as the team appears on the pitch. After all their great king billy was partial to the old bit of rear end pot holing
171

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:19:00
Which rangers player would play the Village People...?

My take on it would be..

Mendes as the Indian (Heap big wampum)

Darcheville as the Cop (Two erses in Jodhpurs..you know it makes sense)

Novo as the macho man (narky wee twonk whos as hard as my last motion but thinks hes the real deal)

Adam as the cowboy ( a role he's played every saturday)

Boyd as the building site worker (tailor made for him..stand around all day and do f eck all and expect to get paid at the weekend)
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:22:27
Damn...Forgot the Army bloke...could be played by the support as they LOVE marching...
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:26:31
#282

Your vast knowledge of the village people and the characters is worrying to say the least.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:29:07
GF had to google it..Honest...Now where did I leave my spangly boobtube...?
175

Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 11:31:39
If Hertz went out of business, would anybody notice?

There will be some good comedy on the telly to cheer us all up next week. With the first in a new series of comic capers as Celtic play away in Europe.

P 15 W 0 D 1 L 14

Euro whipping-bhoys, of that there is no doubt...
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:34:07
#285

You havent left it beside Vics rubber pants have you?
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 11:36:19
Hey Swordsman,

What do you think of the "Tottie song"?

Any reasonable person would see it for what it is; a humourous pastiche of, and response to, the various sectarian dirges belted out by the bhoys choir.
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:39:24
#286

I always prefer a good comedy to a horror, so maybe its just as well celtic are still in Europe whether they are "Whipping biys" or not than watching Rangers fans rioting and smashing cities up, as well as the boring 11 men behind the ball football.

To compare the two in film terms then you would have to say

Celtic probably your ben stillers or sean william scotts in a big budget hollywood film

Rangers. cheap low budget but slasher flick

179

Sláine,

26/09/2008 11:40:40
#286 Maggie O'pus - We've had the amazingly successful and widely covered 'Rid Haun Flag Day'...

...So what's next on 'Ra Big Bloo List Of Things To Do On A Shoestring When You're Not Playing In Europe' then?.......
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

26/09/2008 11:42:06
#281 - is it really? I'm glad we have the benefit of your infinite wisdom, don't know what the world would come to without it.

Tell you what, why not use your influential position with the IMF to knock some US Senators' heads together, get them to sign off on the bailout of all the greedy b'stard yank banks. Then we can all get back to making money and paying as little tax as possible on it.
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 11:45:22
274

Indeed there has been mention of Chromium contamination in surrounding areas...

The best thing they could do....is just seal all the exits and turn it into one big municipal tip....as long as the wind is always blowing west....
182

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:47:11
Magnum...I prefer the "THE PLANTATIONS OVER,WHY DONT YOU COME HOME? version....
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 11:48:06
#289 Georgie

I think you will find it is those nice chaps the Celtic fans sing about who were responsible for the destruction of Manchester town center.

Get some perspective, get a grip and get a life...
184

Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:48:55
Slaine..Curiously I was wearing my Red Hand scarf on Sunday as Tyrone powered to the All Ireland Championship...Sam is back in safe, red hands..
185

paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 11:49:22
288

What do you think of the guys in the states who meet up wearing a white pointed hat and white bed sheets?
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 11:50:34
#293

lol, hadn't heard that one. I hope the ers-ehole who made the official complaint has been suitably villified/ignored in the Irish press?
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 11:51:40
#294

I know Celtic fans sing a lot about Rangers fans...whether i would call them nice though is another matter.

As for the life...I have a very good one as it is thank you. How about yours? do you have one?
188

Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 11:52:42
#296 PaulLing

YOu are a bit of a dullard. Conflation of a race hate organisation and a witty choral reposte ,is the work of a dengerous idiot.
189

paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 11:54:34
294

He's getting twitchy lads....
190

Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 11:55:25
#298 Georgie

A wee song for you...

"What a life, what a life, to live in the kingdom of Fife..."
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 11:57:29
Magnum...I'm all for a bit of banter (witty,or otherwise) but I think that song is a wee bit over the top.
As I've stated before there are those among my own support who sing offensive songs, but two wrongs dont make a right.The trivialisation of a national disaster that resulted in the deaths of over 1 million people is not a subject for hilarity.
Please dont put me down as a PC whinger,I just dont see the "funny" side of countless deaths and misery visited on many more...REGARDLESS of their creed,nationality or political beliefs...
192

paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:00:06
296

Is PaulLing.....really the best put down you can muster?

Are you Nervous Bear?....

He/she was the only other IQ defective that could mould such a retort!
193

Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:00:42
#304 Swordsman

I take your point, BUT the song does not ridicule the famine or celebrate the loss of life. If anything it celebrates that the famine is over and that there is no reason for those who "pine in song" for the old country ahould not return there.
194

paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:01:45
303

Naw.....whit are they like?
195

Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:03:58
#306 PaulLing

You may think that but I could not possibly comment...
196

Sláine,

26/09/2008 12:04:18
Maggie O'pus - Personally I preferred the cheerful 'Kapn Kebab ft Mad Mikey's Car Park Choir' wee ditty 'Youse need Hauns'...

...you know;

Youse need hauns to show ra lass ye're horny
Youse need rid hauns to show that ye're a h\/n
When youse know that everybody hates ye
Youse need hauns tae hide yer face fae everyone
Oh but ra hauns we hate tae hear
Ur ra hauns at we all fear...

...Hauns clappin fer 4 In a row ma son...

...Thankya verruh much.......
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 12:09:44
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:12:45
307

Really?

The thing is....I employ a guy who follows Rearrangers who very kindly provided me with a copy of this....jolly song!

Which attacks the Irish?...U2?...Bono?...Catholicism?..

Celebrates paedophilia???....amongst other things!

But there is no surprise that you enjoy the song and revel in it's content...

You follow Rangers....your hatred is to be expected....

Now go and lie in yer basket!
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:20:01
Ok......back to the serious stuff.....

Do Rearrangers have a monopoly on ugly players?...and will the loss of Ugly Betty upset their efforts to retain the ugly team award this season?
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:21:41
The question everyone needs answered.....

Is Sasa Papac's nose real?
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Daillyman,

26/09/2008 12:24:38
316 paulmac

Still trying to figure out you're infatuation with the players looks who play for the Gers. If you want we will accept the award you wish to give the team along with the SPL title at the end of the season. Cheers.
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:25:57
Danny has been warned not to turn up at training without his teeth.....God bless him he's 86 you know!
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:27:38
#315 PaulLing

Let me deal with your points one by one:

"Which attacks the Irish?...U2?...Bono?...Catholicism?.."

The song mentions Ireland, U2 and Bono in a positive context.

"Celebrates paedophilia???....amongst other things!"
The song makes reference too the Celtic bhoys chuild abuse scandal of the 1970's, but condemns it.

"But there is no surprise that you enjoy the song and revel in it's content..."
I see the song for what it is, a pastiche, and respinse to, the various dirges sung by the Timothy Bhoys Vhoir. A rather witty one may I add.

"You follow Rangers....your hatred is to be expected...."

I love the country of Ireland. Fine people and tasty ales. I respect and admire those who follow the Catholic faith. I have a great deal of sympathy for those who have been socially conditioned to support Celtic as a statement of identity. Football is a game, played for honour and fun. It should not be used as a vehicle to entrench cultural isolation.
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Daillyman,

26/09/2008 12:27:39
321 paulmac

86, and still the best fullback on the tics books.
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:32:20
#316 PaulLing

I see where this is going. First you start off with ugly players , then you move on to who the good looking players are; who has nice legs etc...

Woman and football, oil and water...
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aficionado de ?,

barcelona 26/09/2008 12:32:35
322 and the reason u follow the most bigoted anti irish anti catholic anti anything club in the world is?
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:33:42
It's a slow week Brian....

The ugly theme is a preferable topic to BTO and his actuary mates ding dong discussion....

Alternatively we could discuss the merits of Rangers performance against Thistle....

So the ugly theme wins today....

Oh and sorry to say the SPL title and the ugly award are not one and the same.....the title is ours....whilst the facially challenged is yours my friend!
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:36:14
#325

There is your social conditioning kicking in again.

The famous Glasgow Rangers, 136 years of unsurpassed dignity.
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:37:55
Brian

If I thought Danny could still hack it.....he'd be in the team...
211

the beast,

London 26/09/2008 12:38:59
What ever happened to Mirsad Beslija?
212

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 26/09/2008 12:39:07
supporting rangers in the this new modern era is akin to drunk driving and smoking in a public place, being caught or addmiting to it will cause you deep embarasment,
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 12:41:43
Any news yet on Charlie adams gravestone teeth?

Is he gettin the spaces filled in?
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Daillyman,

26/09/2008 12:41:56
328

Was a great fullback.
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 12:44:58
#314 - Aaah 'Locking' to the heady sounds of northern soul at the Wigan Casino...

...spins...

...drops...

...cuts back and locks in just in time...

..."In my mind I know you're gone
But my heart keeps holding on
To the memories of those happy times
To the love that once was mine

Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart

There's a ghost in my house
I can't hide...

...Not that I'd know anything about that you understand, wee bit before my time, no really I'm not that old.......
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:46:24
#330

Supporting the famous Glasgow Rangers is like riding bareback when a prophylactic should be in use…
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 12:47:55
********Breaking news***********


Latest from our undercover reporter deep within Tynescastle:

Nade was seen entering his card into the cash machine on gorgie road, and after a few quick looks over his shoulder took out a load of cash (So confirmation wages are there) he was then seen entering Greggs to spend it.

A few of the players Girlfreinds have been seen hovering around Harvey Nicolls doors with mobile phones in their hands, after recieving calls to confirm the players wages were in the bank the swooped into the store.

*Exclusive* reports later on the contents of their bags, and what the players themselves have been spending their money on.
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Magnum Opus,

26/09/2008 12:49:57
#337 Georgie...

Very droll. I bit you often over hear people saying that you are a "funny" wee guy...
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aficionado de ?,

barcelona 26/09/2008 12:50:12
ye mabe is you ever get the chance,keep singing the songs in favour of your players and team and you,ll be ok and leave the funny stuff to the scots born irish
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Gorgie's Finest,

26/09/2008 12:54:41
#341

Wouldnt be like you to ever see some live fur though would it BTO?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 13:16:42
Slaine...The fab R Dean Taylor...Takes me back...

BTO do you mean the Psychedelic Furs?If so,say them before they went pretty in pink...
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 13:17:46
You fishin' BTO?...

...First off 'Northern Soul' circa 1973...

...Then the 'Psychedelic Furs' - Punk circa 1977...

...What's next?...

...Give you a clue...

...First live gig I went to was Siouxsie and the Banshees coinciding with the release of the 'Juju' album.......
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 13:23:59
#344 - Not strictly Northern Soul I know, more Tamla Motown, most definitely the anthem of a generation...

...and still going strong years later for the Mod Revival...

...before Scooter Boys went all Psychobilly and Skinhead and started stripping their Lambrettas and Vespas down to 'Skeleton Skootahs'...

...Werthers Original anyone?.......
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 13:32:00
Slaine..R Dean was the first white bloke to sign for Motown,I believe (Kiki Dee being the female,trivia fans)great voice..

As an old fuddy duddy myself I loved the psychobilly stuff in Glasgow with Greenock's "Shakin' Pyramids" and the daddy of them all,"The Humpff Family" ...
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 13:33:52
BTW BTO - I traded the original in for a younger model...

...Not fat, 1 kid (this year) and wouldn't have a clue what a dip is ;-P...

...now there's an idea...

...maybe I'll pull on the old loafers and stapress tonight when I get home, dig out the old ben sherman button down...

...throw on some motown...

...and invite her to get funky.......
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Survivor Of Riots,

26/09/2008 13:57:08
On the ugly topic....did anyone catch a swatch at the burd Goram dumped to go back with his ex??

One would have thought that he dodged a bullet getting rid of his ex in the first place until you seen the (ahem) "new" version. At least 50 years old. Maybe when she removes the wallies it adds to the experience?

If ever there was evidence of Karma, it is proven in Gorams love life.
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 14:07:17
BTO - Glad you said it, I couldn't admit to it cold like that but...

...Only You (Vince Clarke originally offered it to Depeche Mode as a gift when he left - They declined! oops) Synthpop at it's best...

...try and find a recording of Alison Moyet's LIVE rendition of 'That Ole Devil Called Love' it'll send shivers down your spine...

...Swordy, I had a very brief flirtation with a french crop and the Stray Cats but found it all a bit too poppyboppy...

...few years later I discovered stuff by The Cramps and Screamin Jay Hawkins (who were around before the Stray Cats) and the Meteors, that gave it a more to my taste darker side...

...Couldn't believe it when in Brussels in '98 I came across a flyer for The Cramps live at the Halle de Schaerbeek in Brussels! I thought they were all dead and buried, they had lost their drummer to his drug addiction I believe and Poison Ivy looked much older than I remembered, (logical I know), but they were fantastic, a brilliant night...

...later I did a check on their support group 'Attack of the 50 foot Woman' and discovered that Psychobilly was very much alive and well in Belgium and The Netherlands...

...although the Humpff Family? Doesn't ring a bell, I'll do a tube search later when the wee lassie is in her bed.......
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 14:09:58
BTO - Nope
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 14:13:40
Slaine

The Humpff Family were more Speed Country....Saw them at the Grand Ole Opry on Paisley Rd West yrs ago and the C&W crowd couldnt get the thrash version of "Blue Moon Of Kentucky"...Fabulous...BTW Going to see the Stray Cats in Nov/Dec here in Dublin..
As for the Cramps..saw them at Strathclye in 80...great band..
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 14:19:09
Ha Ha Ha, Swordy, just googled the Humpff Family, came back with 'Ry Cooder meets Rab C Nesbitt' :-D...

...I'm embarrassed that I've no heard of them, them being homegrown and all...

...curiosity makes a search compulsory later, (can't download media files on this computer), should be funny if the description's anywhere close.......
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 14:32:50
Slaine..check out http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=190496910

For youtube action..."Teach Jesus to swim" is a hoot
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 14:42:27
I believe that the Squeeze pianist, (as I remember it from Up The Junction, oh god how long ago), was none other than the inimitable Jools Holland...

...My fave from the Animals is their cover of Nina Simone's 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood'...

...Pop trivia - What's the connection between The Animals and The Police?.......
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Jambo-Fi-SectionG,

26/09/2008 14:44:12
To thepundit...

you might remember me revealing our debts to be about this a couple of days ago, glad Stuart Bathgate has got it spot on this time round :)
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 14:48:06
Swordy, will do, I'll probably need a sit down later after the Motortown Throwdown with Mrs Sláine :o}...

...got to go guys, got to do some reconfigurations before I knock off, it was fun...

...peace.......
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Sláine,

26/09/2008 14:50:52
BTW The connection was...

...Andy Summers, (he was responsible for the bass riff on 'Don't let me be misunderstood') after he left the Animals he later went on to play bass for The Police.......
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Swordsman,

Dublin 26/09/2008 14:50:54
362....
Manchester?
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

26/09/2008 14:51:20
As a Dundee fan I can empathise with what many a Hearts fan will have gone through this week. We didn't believe the stories either about our team, thought it was all manufactured media guff. When the brown stuff hit the fan then all the dirt came out about what the Marrs and di Stefano had been up to.

Mind you it could have been worse - apparently the Marrs turned down Romanov because they did not trust him. So they trusted a shyster gun-running lawyer like di Stefano instead of Romanov!!

What did the Marrs know that Hearts did not?
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Championees,

Sunny Seattle 26/09/2008 16:09:43
Buz Lightyear makes his way across the channel, will he do it and will
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Championees,

Sunny Seattle 26/09/2008 16:11:41
rearangers win a SPL title by 2020?
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paulmac,

surrey 26/09/2008 17:37:04
Right lads.....just dropped back in....and I see music is the theme...

Manfred Mann...

Discuss!
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Jambo-ree,

26/09/2008 21:23:49
#371 Just one thing to say "Do one diddy, diddy dumb" ;o)
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the beast,

London 27/09/2008 00:12:51
And it's goodnite from Hinge and Bracket!!
Shoooooooooosh don't wake them!!

 

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