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Published Date: 29 May 2008
HOUSEHOLDERS have been warned to brace themselves for "catastrophic" rises that could take their gas bills to £1,000 a year, after prices nudged to a record high yesterday.
The average bill is set to soar by nearly £400 as energy companies prepare to pass on the costs of wholesale gas prices, which have surged. This would take the average gas bill from £665 to £1,091, the first time it has been more than £1,000.

This is double what it was in January last year and treble the average bill just six years ago.

A reprieve for consumers also looks unlikely as the predicted price of gas remains high for the next three winters.

Consumer watchdogs yesterday warned that thousands more families risk being dragged into fuel poverty if energy firms ramp up prices.

Energywatch Scotland said high prices were not related to the supply of gas, which was abundant, but because of a "toxic link" to oil prices.

A spokesman said: "It's going to be pretty catastrophic. There has already been lots of talk and preparing the ground for price increases from the energy companies, so it's an inevitable fact. But we need it stated much more clearly exactly what is the relationship between wholesale prices and domestic prices."

The watchdog has called for Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, to put pressure on the European Commission to investigate why oil and gas prices are linked.

The spokesman added: "The price is not high because gas is scarce, but because the big gas producers index the price to oil. It allows companies to generate billions of unearned euros at the expense of consumers."

While Britain has largely been exporting gas since the start of May, prices have continued to soar thanks to demand in continental Europe.

Nigel Cornwall, an independent energy consultant, said the surge in oil prices was being fed through to gas.

Underlying gas prices are linked to oil prices in continental Europe and, because the British and European markets are joined, these feed through into prices here in Britain.

Wholesale energy costs have been rising in the UK due to record oil prices, rising demand in Asia for the available liquefied natural gas and insufficient supply from continental Europe. A weaker pound against the euro has also added to the pressure.

Mr Cornwall said: "Prices collapsed back to 30p a therm in the middle of last year, but they have taken off now.

"If wholesale prices are maintained at current levels, it is likely that suppliers would need to raise bills by 20 per cent."

Dr Phil Goddard of the EIC, the UK trade association for companies supplying the energy industry, agreed that consumers would ultimately have to pay higher prices. "The wider impact is that everyone will have to pay more for their domestic gas and we can expect more people to fall into fuel poverty."

Anusha De-Silva, a gas markets analyst at Heren Energy, said: "As prices rise on the continent, this raises UK wholesale prices, as the UK is now a net importer of gas and so has to compete with the rest of Europe to get gas."

Energy companies were keeping quiet about potential price rises. However, a spokeswoman for Scottish & Southern Energy said: "We have taken a responsible approach to pricing. We have been the last company to put our prices up and the first to lower them."

The company is set to unveil its financial results today.

Energy companies are tipped to start passing on their costs from the autumn.

The increases come in the wake of veiled warnings earlier this month of price increases from Centrica, the owner of British Gas. Management cited the near-doubling in wholesale energy prices and spoke of the need to take "reasonable action" to help protect the company's profit margins.

Ministers are set to announce further measures to tackle fuel poverty tomorrow.

Brown tackles energy crisis with call to lift North Sea output

GORDON Brown yesterday moved to reassure drivers he was aware of concerns over soaring fuel prices by calling for increased production of North Sea oil.

The Prime Minister also opened the door to a greater reliance on nuclear power as he sought to find long-term solutions to the energy crisis.

But he admitted that high global oil prices – which have driven petrol to around £1.15 a litre – were here to stay.

Meanwhile, Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, ruled out a quick announcement on scrapping the proposed 2p per litre increase in fuel duty that is due in October. He said he would only make up his mind "nearer the time".

Mr Brown and Mr Darling yesterday unexpectedly attended a meeting of oil and gas industry leaders in Banchory. This tied in with moves to allow up to 70,000 extra barrels of oil a day to be drawn from the North Sea. Two new oil fields north-east of the Shetlands will begin production next year, while 30 other fields will be carved out of unprofitable parts of existing drilling areas.

Mr Brown told The Scotsman: "What we were talking about was increasing the output from North Sea fields which have been difficult to exploit – smaller fields which are obviously more expensive to develop, existing fields where we can get an enhanced rate of recovery and obviously the West Shetland basin which is an untapped resource."

Oil production from the North Sea peaked in 1999 and is currently 1.2 million barrels per day.

One expert said any increase would "barely register on a global scale" and have no effect on oil or petrol prices.

Mr Brown said the UK's plans for nuclear power needed to be "more ambitious" and go beyond merely replacing the 23 ageing reactors.

The SNP said the decision on building new nuclear plants in Scotland rested with Holyrood and had already been rejected.

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  • Last Updated: 28 May 2008 11:47 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

truthsleuth,

29/05/2008 00:51:53
So oil/energy prices have increased, we have been warned this would happen time and time again but did not get the message.
Hauliers I have no sympathy with (though I have some for their drivers) they raked in the cash when times were good and did not pay their fullroad costs. Times get hard and they threaten us all with fuel blockades.

Now this is tantamount to obstructing the highway and/or secondary picketing both are against the law so why are the police 'helping the hauliers in their commission of a crime.
Motorists I have no sympathy with they should not have bought that gas guzzler and gone for another more efficient model. Failing this they can cut their mileage or drive more efficiently (I have cut my mpg from 30 to 40mpg to 40 to 50 mpg a 25% saving and my mileage from 50 miles per day to 40 miles per day. (averages) by cutting out unnecessary journeys.
Petrol has increased from 80p to 114p about 40% so I would calculate I am actually saving money by the rise in petrol costs not counting the reduced wear and tear on my vehicle and me.
With less cars and lorries on the road traffic should move more freely and accidents will reduce as will pollution.

Even though they also can make savings it is domestic fuel coasts that should recieve attention. The way to do this would be to calculate a fair basic tarriff for the average household. These units should be charged for at a fixed low price with units used above this charged at a very high rate to avoid subsidy.
2

Hmm ...,

29/05/2008 01:01:12
... it sounds as though truthsleuth has a pretty left-wing agenda.

Now is he a Trot or Marxist? I can never tell one activist from another. I only know I like neither.

Just like a friend who visited Edinburgh from Romania shortly after Coucescu and his wife were "retired". She thought all Communists were evil (her words) but then, perhaps she was biased.
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29/05/2008 01:29:30
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Andrew BOD,

Aberdeen/shire 29/05/2008 01:33:48
Truthsleuth

Your arguments are amateurish. You have no sympathy with hauliers. You have no sympathy with motorists. Do you have any sympathy for consumers who are actually paying for all of this? You see, hauliers will pass the price rises onto consumers partly through food prices. And what do you mean by domestic fuel costs? Gas and electricity costs? How can you possibly fix rates? It's a private market based on the speculative price of gas from mass exporters like Russia. If you're talking about Nationalisation then that's a different matter. Please explain.
5

W Smith,

Middle East 29/05/2008 05:52:39
After making huge profits Exxon Mobil can give the american motorists petrol at 54 pence a litre.

Meanwhile the Scots pay more per litre than most oil-less countries in the EU.

Funny that.

I blame the Fly Fifer but The Scotsman seems to be hell-bent on blaming 'global' factors.

The only thing thats 'global' is our Gordon's heid!

BTW
A gallon of diesel is now more expensive in Dubai than it is in the USA.

You couldn't make this up.
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Eckyboo,

Somewhere hot and sunny 29/05/2008 06:48:12
I'm surprised that the Private/Public Sector employers arn't making more noise about all these catastrophic price rises. At the end of the day they are the ones that are going to receive 20% plus wage demands from their employees. I'm happy to have quit the UK as this New Labour lot appear to be Tories wearing a different colour of tie.
8

Letters From Muscat,

edinburgh 29/05/2008 06:50:44
If gas prices do escalate the government's heating gift to pensioners at christmas will not cover this rise..... oh dear, better start singing in the streets....or could I get my book published and make a wee fortune like Jk ? or what about all my great paintings? I have sold one or two... but the rest will only increase in value when I've popped my clogs!!! Back to the drawing board.... seriously these are worrying times.....
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Letters From Muscat,

edinburgh 29/05/2008 06:50:44
If gas prices do escalate the government's heating gift to pensioners at christmas will not cover this rise..... oh dear, better start singing in the streets....or could I get my book published and make a wee fortune like Jk ? or what about all my great paintings? I have sold one or two... but the rest will only increase in value when I've popped my clogs!!! Back to the drawing board.... seriously these are worrying times.....
10

SouthernSkye,

29/05/2008 07:35:34
For all the grandstanding done by Labour regarding it being "a global issue", the bottom line is that the taxes on fuel are NOT a global issue. They are right there to be adjusted at a UK national level in order to keep the subjects of the UK mobile, warm and fed at a reasonable cost (although food costs have been artificially low for many years, any increase must go to the producers and not the retailers).

G Brown can stick his rhetoric where the sun don't shine (Dundee !! ;-)))))). I have no faith in the UK Gov at all. As soon as they open their mouths I now treat the words immediately as lies. Whatever the party in power, is it not a sad state when, as it appears, the vast majority of the public think they are being constantly mislead and lied to by them?
11

Concerned local,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 07:37:59
I've just had my monthly direct debit increased by 200% by Scottish Gas - and it's not because I am way behind in my payments, as I had a small annual deficit of £70 on my actual against estimmated bill last year. This however was an excuse to multiply my monthly payment three times over. Since I am on the same basic pay I was on in 2003, with no prospect of an increase, and with Maggie Broon's Leona Helmsley-inspired policy of 'tax for little people but the rich pay nothing', I have no option but to contemplate not switching any heating on this winter. Thank you, NuLabour Sleaze and Corruption Party.

Be warned - there is more to come.
12

Boy Wonder,

29/05/2008 07:45:25
It's the worst-off in society, the poorly-paid, pensioners and the disabled who will be badly hit by this in particular.

Recent benefit increases will be swallowed up by this rise, and we'll see more fuel poverty this coming winter.

Keep an eye open for older people you know. This is going to kill a few more when the cold starts to bite!
13

Campaign Lawer,

Elgin 29/05/2008 07:54:18
So why did Brown not invite Scotlands First Minister (ex oil analyst) to Banchory yesterday?
What a bitter twisted old git!!!
There is no chance of getting these 2 in the same room together.
Increased production of 70,000 barrels / day Thats just a dribble. I'm working on a platform that produces 220,000 barrels / day!!!!!!
14

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

29/05/2008 08:03:27
To all those who are blaming Mr Brown (not that he is blameless) - some of that blame needs to be shifted onto energy suppliers:

* Centrica - £1.95bn profit reported in Febraury - a rise of almost 40% since February 2007 - dividends paid out 17% per share

* Scottish & Southern Energy - £586.3 million profit reported in September 2007 - a rise of almost 68% since September 2006

* Iberdola (Scottish Power's parent company) - reported in October 2007 that net profit had risen by more than 30% to €1.6 bn, with Scottish Power contributing more than a fifth of the group's earnings

15

Angus McChatterer,

Aberdeen 29/05/2008 08:05:51
"Wake up Scotland before the rest of the theft is completed."

How interesting that whenever the SNP talk about Scotland's future as a proper nation we are told that the oil is finished, but when Labour is in trouble, Gordon Brown can instantly open the taps and let more oil flow.

Vote the lying Labour rogues out for good in 2010.
16

JayJay,

Right here 29/05/2008 08:12:15
Here is a few predictions.
1. Energy companies will show huge increases in their profits this year.
2. Ditto oil companies.
3. Brown will continue to bang on about global warming, announce he has "done his bit" on fuel duty via postponing a 2p rise, yet he will cackle all the way to the bank as he continues to cream in vast sums in PRT and VAT.
4. Brown will do nothing tangible about global warming.
5. The extra tax will not be spent on roads, on alternative energy research or on cheapening the cost of public transport. It will be blown on nonsense like the Olympics.
5. Bus and train fares will go through the roof, leaving commuters with a choice between the bike, shoe leather or a duvet day (albeit staying at home might not be a good idea in December as the hoose will be too expensive to heat).
Brown must think we are all daft. Everybody lines up to royally shaft the consumer, whilst wringing their hands and explaining it all away on "global factors" - global factors that happily line their shareholders pockets.
Oil prices are being driven by speculators - the selfsame eejits who put runs on currencies and banks. And I have yet to fully understand the economic argument as to why China is somehow able to afford oil at $130 a barrel whilst sustaining economic growth...it would appear that our economy can't cope with these prices, or so we are told.
So, to paraphrase Brown, "get used to these prices, coz I need the tax to waste it elsewhere".
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vorlic,

edinburgh 29/05/2008 08:20:04
as long as essential commodities are in private hands we will all pay the price for the dividends and profits for theses companies that own them. food,energy,water and housing should be affordable to all. these are the basic needs of life
18

123456789,

29/05/2008 08:26:30
All those comments about "its not a global issue, its the government". How can you say that? Yes we get taxed twice as much as a lot of European countrys but not long ago a barrel of oil was costing $66. Now its pushing towards $140. This is not set by the government.
Yes he could drop the taxes slightly but as Oil cost will keep rising and some analysts are predicting $200 by the end of the year do you thin ka few pence of the tax would make a difference? i think not!

What might help would be to have these fuel company's(shell, BP etc) to have to be registered in this country so they pay taxes to the government. Currently they are posting profits of several billions and BP especially have their company registered "off shore". They should be banned from trading in this country until they contribute more to it!

Its worrying how many big earners(individuals and large corporations) dont pay full taxes because they have these off shore accounts!
19

scottish person,

paisley 29/05/2008 08:33:37
Does everyone have to sign in every time they want to post on the hootsmon site.
It is obvious that newliebour are creaming off as much as they can before they are sent into oblivion. Why Alex Salmond was not at the talks regarding oil beats me. Broon is a twisted bas***d. They looked like little boys lost filing into the talks with the oil barons. The real reason we are paying so much is that the government have lost a fortune in revenue from cigarettes and have to recoup it from elswhere. They are ars****es.
20

ddmc,

29/05/2008 08:54:41
it's another commodity bubble, there is no real shortage of oil or gas. What's driving these high prices is speculation on futures & as usual we get shafted.

#16 #18 & 19 I agree
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Unimpressed one,

29/05/2008 09:31:59
#11, But what goes up will come down. As the oil companies get the green light to explore new fields and it becomes viable to tap into the more remote ones, the supply will increase to meet demand. Watch the price of a barrel of crude come down to under $100 by next year.
22

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 09:51:16
"But he admitted that high global oil prices – which have driven petrol to around £1.15 a litre – were here to stay."

Global oil prices HAVE NOT caused petrol prices to rise to these rediculous levels. The stupid labour criminally extortionate taxes have caused this.
23

Captain Flint,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 10:05:04
Sort out your home energy efficiency. Contact your energy supplier about grants for loft and cavity wall insulation. If you've got an old boiler, think about replacing it with a SEDBUK A version. Sort out your drafts. Stick foil behind your radiators. Turn down your thermostat a wee bit. Put an extra jumper on. I did all this, and my gas bills are embarrassingly low. Something like £14 a month. House is still cosy, but by no means overheated.

Seriously, people, the era of cheap energy is over. Finished. Gone for ever. Get used to this concept. So you've got two choices: a. adapt to the changing situation (as I did, above) or b. try to carry on as before, wailing in misery and despair at the size of your fuel bill.

It's not such a difficult decision, is it?
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Hiatus,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 10:45:57
Is it not a tad ironic that the man who imposed a super tax on North Sea oil explration and extraction only 3 years ago is now trying to halt the slide in the amount of oil coming out of the North Sea as a due result of these punative tax measures.
Only a socialist couldbe so economically illiterate.
And people still believe the myth that he was a good Chancellor
25

W Smith,

Middle East 29/05/2008 10:53:59
#26
Agreed.

"When can we get rid of this bloody Chancellor?" Locke of Abbot Group.


It was Alisdair Locke of Abbot Group who saw problems ahead after Brown's super tax which was always going to hit the more 'local' Scottish oil companies harder than the giant US companies.

Well done the boy Broon.
26

Flash67,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 10:54:40
The point is very near where the cost of installing solar panels and ground pumps (for heating or electricity) is not much more than a couple of years gas bill. Apparently new rules in England means no planning permission is now needed for these, and, hopefully, the same will be happening here soon. If the gas /oil companies continue to play silly b'''''s with their prices, they will see their market slashed over the next few years as people wise up. We've done the sums and are going for it soon - we reckon the panels will pay for themselves within 5 years, will help the environment, add to the value of our home and stick it right up the gas company!!!
27

Green,

Dundee 29/05/2008 11:24:36
23 unimpressed one

This has been the reasoning for years, but its being reported in the financial press that most of the larger oil conpanies are cutting back on oil exploration and research. One resaon, it seems, the highly politically unstable sorts of places a lot of the oil is in, and the risk of effectively nationalisation. Look at the way the Russian gov. let Western oil cos in in the 90's when new investment was needed and then squeeezed them out. How? by claiming all the Western cos were not complying with environmenal rules, and effectively giving the cos an offer they could not refuse.... sell out very cheap to Putin's cronies, or we shut you down.

This has been a standard ploy in many of the former soviet countries ever since the wall came down.

In Ukraine another good one was letting Western businesses invest and build factories, then saying foreigners needed an internal visa to move around the country, so they could fly into the airport and fly out, but not visit their own businesses as and when they wanted. Lots of them ended up selling out at a loss. Theres lots of other variations of these dodges.
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Marian,

29/05/2008 11:50:47
Guido Fawkes blog reports today:-

"Maurice Fitzpatrick, senior tax manager at Grant Thornton, the accountants is quoted in the FT:

Since the Budget in March, the Treasury has already taken an estimated £820m more than its forecasts in North Sea oil tax. The £6bn of surplus revenue would easily cover the cost of U-turns on both fuel duty and vehicle excise duty, where ministers are introducing new bands which could cost an extra £200 for drivers of inefficient cars. Deferring the 2p increase in fuel duty by six months would cost £550m. Scrapping the revamped vehicle excise duty altogether would mean the loss of an estimated £465m next year and £735m next year - although ministers may only remove the retrospective element of this tax.

So scrapping the poll tax on wheels and the 2p hike on petrol taxes would cost about 9 weeks extra than forecast windfall taxes due to high oil prices. Scrap 'em now..."
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Here Today HBOS Tomorrow,

Mainland Europe 29/05/2008 11:58:23
While some of you complain about UK taxes, its worth noting that they are among the lowest overall in Europe. Sure fuel is probably a bit higher but income taxes etc are much lower, I lose about 48% of income here in the EU and I am not a high rate tax payer! Then there are all the additional sales taxes etc. So either you pay higher income tax or higher fuel tax, overall though you still pay less than your EU friends - so keep that in mind. I am British and have lived under the joy of several tax systems...

As for fuel prices it is essential that people start feeling the pinch, perhaps not on heating but certainly when it comes to cars. Only then will people start making more use of cheaper, more environmentally friendly forms of transport. Also the oil etc can then be sold abroad thus reducing the trade deficit. I would love a car, but sadly decided that given the costs of owning one it was not worth it. Instead I have here unlimited travel in a 50 mile radius for about 20 quid per month! Much cheaper and I can have a beer. I acknowledge it is not possible everywhere but in major cities like Edinburgh if you live most parts of it you DO NOT need a car. People in the little island (and I am British) really need to mend their ways... sadly...

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 29/05/2008 12:28:15
In Ontario we have a programme administered by the Salvation Army named "Share the Warmth" which gives one time grants to needy individuals, and especially families, who cannot cope with the calamitous rise in gas prices to heat their apartments or homes.

DO you have a similar aid programme in cities in Scotland?
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CLX,

ABZ 29/05/2008 12:46:02
The thing I can't get my head round is the fact that the UK can only store 5% of the gas it produces so it sells off the surplus to France (who can store 20% of its produce)during the summer when demand and price is low. Now, during the winter when demand and prices increase we then by back our gas at hugely inflated prices from the people we sold it to in the first place.....

Somebody is raking it in and it aint us...
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ARP,

Scotland 29/05/2008 12:53:00
Aren't you glad you broke up your own nationalised gas industry and handed it over to international capitalism? What a triumph of free enterprise over state bureaucracy!

How all parties must be proud of 'liberalising' one of the most progressive gas industries in the world and exploiting gas reserves to put coal out of business and waste gas by using it making electricity. Better go and buy some warm clothing before its price goes up too.

So as energy prices soar, lets dream up new ways of wasting it - more public street lighting, more over-heated shopping centres, more floodlit buildings - let's have a ball!

And by the way, instead of worrying about the gas bill, think how you are saving the planet for the next generations and stopping the ice cap melting by turning off the heat! How about saving more energy by sending your old banger to the scrap yard and buying a new one - you'll save energy all right - you won't afford to take it out of the garage.

Best not go to work anyway, just take to bed and wait for the benefits to roll in.

Hurrah 31 - let's all enjoy 'feeling the pinch!
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Marian,

29/05/2008 13:37:19
As usual we have a sprinkling of provocative comments from the “Environmentalist” hairshirt and sandals brigade. They represent less than 1% of our population as evidenced by votes cast at every election yet hold the rest of the population of Scotland to ransom with their fervent religious beliefs in “environmentalism”. We have a cynical New Labour led UK Government that uses the cloak of being “environmentally friendly” to tax the ordinary citizen into extinction in pursuit of their utopian world but the trouble is that “environmental” taxation of the sort they propound only makes the poor poorer and leaves the wealthy unaffected as evidenced by “carbon credits” - which is their latest wheeze to ensure that this happens. They dream on about all of us going about our business using public transport but the reality is that the New Labour led UK Government will not and cannot re-invest the excessive taxes raised from fuel and Vehicle Excise Duty to improve the public transport system to a practical level that renders private transport unnecessary in Scotland as it is a mainly rural Nation with a rural economy. They dream on about freight lorries being banned and all freight being sent instead by rail but don't explain how it is supposed to get there when there is no railway. We need to wake up before they destroy our society and our way of life forever.
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ess,

29/05/2008 13:39:04
Did you notice that after the meeting with oil companies yesterday that Gordon Brown was getting picked up in a Jaguar. At least a 3litre engine. Thankfully for him, his petrol gets paid for by expenses.
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CLX,

ABZ 29/05/2008 13:54:37
Buckpool Loon,
It's not that I don't understand it, it's the utter disbelief of the situation....

Not so much as selling England by the pound but selling the whole bluddy country by the BTU/Litre....
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 29/05/2008 16:15:07
37 Buckpool Loon

Although your posting sounds a tad curmudgeonly and negative, I think there is a LOUD ring of truth to it, sadly - VERY sadly.
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Huistean baxter,

Ontario. 29/05/2008 16:53:45
I'm a little confused. Have read the artical and in one place it says that the UK has been exporting gas since the start of May. Further down a Anusha De-Silva says that the UK is a net importer of gas. Which is true. The price of oil and gas is controlled by the investors ETC in the New York Stock Exchange. In fact all the oil and gas problems stem from the USA.
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PointOf View,

Falkirk/Edinburgh 29/05/2008 19:02:19
19 vorlic.
You are of course absolutely right. Plus lots of interesting comments above from others but ultimately as long as multi-national companies / share holders own such companies there will be no end to this. Anyway, Likely half the politicians own masses of such shares I’d love to see their shares portfolio's, they likely have an invested interest in utilities companies ripping the public off.

The only answer i can come up with and its not ideal, would be for the Government to nationalise all utilities companies, energy/power/gas, water, transport companies and have them operate as non-for-profit organisations. This would make basic utilities affordable. ~

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PointOf View,

Falkirk/Edinburgh 29/05/2008 19:04:19
Now we all know the government are completely useless and couldn't run a p*ss up in a brewery, so manager’s and staff from the private sector could run them and be directly accountable to the public.
One might argue this could not be done. However, if it comes down to it, and we're not far away e.g. people dying from the cold, malnutrition and mass public bankruptcy, due to unmanageable living costs, just to have the very basics of life, I think that could be a main driving factor. ~
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PointOf View,

Falkirk/Edinburgh 29/05/2008 19:04:45
Last thing lots of interesting points above and you can’t help think the “new order” theory thing might be true. All the surveillance and erosion of fundamental basic rights including privacy ect.
I went to the bank recently and tried to withdraw £1000 (had been saving for a deposit on more economical second hand car). Anyway, the teller asked me what I wanted the money for! My jaw hit the ground, I informed him it was absolutely none of his business, it was my money. He then informed me they have been issues with new directives regarding withdrawals,, and if I didn’t tell him he may not be able to process my request, have to refuse giving me MY money. Told him I was going out with my mates for a night out at a lap dancing club!! Be warned and make of the above what you may. Something seriously needs done.
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Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 30/05/2008 17:24:41
Scotland will soon be a third world country unless we can get rid of the Labour sewer rats who are skimming us left right and centre.
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Ben Double Crossed,

Tampa, Florida 31/05/2008 17:51:02
WHAT AMERICANS NEED TO DECIDE:

FOREIGN WARS OR DOMESTIC OIL

If the US Government had spent a trillion dollars over 8 years on domestic oil production from known reserves in the Gulf of Mexico, the Continental Shelf and coal gasification, instead of War in Iraq, gas would be $2 a gallon or less. And America could quit sending billions to countries that sponsor terrorism.

Reducing trade deficits keeps jobs in America. Every billion of trade deficit costs 13,000 jobs. $400 billion for oil last year: do the math.

And declaring American energy independence is the neighborly thing to do. It should result in downward pressure on world oil prices by making more OPEC oil available for the UK, France, Japan, Turkey, etc.

Harness your anger at the pump and call Congress and the Senate to demand domestic production in this decade. Raise your voice or the oil companies and politicians will assume you are ready to pay even more.

Poverty is the worst form of pollution and only wealthy countries can afford to practice pollution and climate control. To paraphrase Heroditus: It is better to be envied than pitied.

Unintended consequences: As the rich trade in their SUVs for hybrids, the car lots overflow with them. Soon, being cheap and plentiful these are the only vehicles the poor can afford. But can they afford to put gas in them.

 

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