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Published Date: 09 January 2009
AN underground car park would be built below Charlotte Square under plans being considered by council chiefs.
The Evening News has learned that the ambitious proposal is part of a wider bid to revamp the city's West End.

Drawn-out plans for an underground car park in Chambers Street have stalled amid confusion over who owns the land and it is understood that it could be up to a year before lawyers sort it out.

In the meantime, officials have been scouting the Capital for other suitable locations, with Charlotte Square favoured by city leaders.

The car park, which is likely to be built and operated by a private contractor, would see vehicles lowered underground and parked automatically.

The scheme would be likely to involve the temporary relocation of the city's Book Festival for at least one year.

Many in the City Chambers would see the project as an opportunity to replicate the success of the recently-opened St Andrew Square gardens in the city's West End by opening the Charlotte Square gates to the public.

The car park is being considered in conjunction with proposals to transform the first block of buildings on Princes Street where House of Fraser is located.

A council source told the News: "Parking around Charlotte Square is an issue that needs to be addressed and this would tie in with the plans for redeveloping the Frasers block.

"There is a concern the St James development might create an imbalance towards the East End and we want to address that."

Michael Apter, chairman of the nearby West End Traders Association, said: "I would be all for this idea, it is the perfect solution to our parking problems in the West End.

I think this would go some way to counterbalance the impact that the new St James Centre will have

."

The £4.5 million scheme to build an underground car park on Chambers Street in front of the Royal Museum was first mooted in 2005. The existing 89 parking bays would be replaced by 100 underground spaces built on either side of the William Chambers statue and around a dozen firms have expressed an interest. Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, said: "This would make a lot of sense, Charlotte Square is a lot more central than Chambers Street and it is in the heart of the city centre where these spaces are needed.

"What we really need is an increase in off-street spaces in Edinburgh and this would begin to address this issue, as well as free up on-street spaces for more short-term stays."


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1

allknowing,

09/01/2009 11:58:36
Heres an idea for you, free of charge. Re-open the empty autosafe car park just next door to the Sheraton Hotel!!!!!! Will safe you lots of cash, and its already built.
2

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 12:00:54
As soon as you see the words 'private contractor' it means RIP OFF.

Don't do it. The trams will preclude the necessity for any car parking anyway.
3

Hmm ...,

09/01/2009 12:11:44
Niko #2 - deluded, just deluded! Trams will do little for Edinburgh. They will run along just a single passenger corridor probably half a mile wide.

And Edinburgh city centre desperately needs to increase its footfall after car users havebeen driven off the streets by the former Labour administration's anti=car policies.

It is easier to "lose" customers than to get them back!
4

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 12:12:48
By the way, that 'artists impression' is a bit Primary 7 is it not? It looks like a Blue Peter vesrion of Thunderburds' tracy island.
5

Duncan in Edinburgh,

09/01/2009 12:13:14
#1 But it doesn't work, I thought? Isn't that why it isn't in use?
6

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 12:14:28
#3

Nope - the car is dead. The car has carked it big style.

The tram is likely to save Edinburgh from the impending depression, no problem at all.

Vote trams people. £2.20 to travel 200 yards is real space age stuff and it is the best thing to happen to Edinburgh since I had my tea.
7

Padraig,

09/01/2009 12:15:20
#1 Allknowing - Agreed, that car park's time has probably come since the redevelopment of that area has been completed.

I didn't know it existed until after it had closed! And we do need more off-street parking!
8

Amenemhat,

deep deep down 09/01/2009 12:17:36
Not again, George St underground, Chambers St Underground, any more...... oh yes Princes St

Welcome to Fantasy Council land, it's because they are trogladites they want to live underground
9

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 12:19:24
#8

It's spelt "troglodyte". I should know. I am one.
10

Amenemhat,

09/01/2009 12:25:00
#9

is that the plural
11

PaulB,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 12:30:15
As the focus of shopping in Edinburgh is moving towards the east end, would it not make more sense to have the car pak under St Andrews Squsre, closer to shops people want to use?
12

Bob 2,

09/01/2009 12:31:41
had to check my calendar

nope its not the 1st of April.

One minute its don't bring your car in as the trams and park and rides will be available before this £5m+ project is finished

Beam me up Scotty
13

Bob 2,

09/01/2009 12:32:51
11 paulb

now they've just revamped St Andrew Sq, never mind the tram lines nearby
14

Foo,

09/01/2009 12:43:54
The day this happens I'll buy everyone on this forum twelve rounds of whatever they want at whatever pub they want followed by a meal at whatever gastro pub they want.*

*terms and conditions apply.
15

Bling Crosby,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 12:47:30
NO NO NO.

i thought we were supposed to be stopping traffic in the city centre not encouraging it.

and if any more holes are dug in Edinburgh it will topple in on itself.
16

JFW,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 13:01:11
What the f**k - so what is the tram line that will be running less than 100 metres away for???? Can't these idiots make up their tiny minds - one minute it's "let's have a half-@rsed attempt to reduce congestion with a £500million tram" and then the next it's "Let spend a hug wad of money to bring even more cars into the city-centre, and let's put it next to a busy junction and a bottleneck street that will already be trying to accomodate trams and buses". We don't need any more parking - a recent report for the council showed that city centre street parking is actually underutilised outside of George St and the St James centre.
17

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09/01/2009 13:01:17
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18

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 13:09:18
#10, no, for the plural, just add an S.

19

Amenemhat,

09/01/2009 13:16:01
#18

thanks, I would not want to seen to be picking on any individual councillor
20

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 09/01/2009 13:16:39
AS foo says , it will never happen.

And if it did , it's clearly far too wee. I'm suprised no-one has picked up on this.

I just LURV the way the Eeen comes out with statements like "The Evening News has learned that the ambitious proposal is part of a wider bid to revamp the city's West End"

And then tells you SFA about the "wider bid" (unless it means cleaning the stone on the fraser building with undoubtedly has SFA to do with an imaginary carpark)".

The world is ruled by dadaists.
21

Farky,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 13:27:18
Charlotte Square is beautiful - leave it that way!

Seriously, they are looking for another locations because lawyers need a year to find out who owns what under Chambers St? Like plan B will happen anytime soon!

Grand plans, never short of grand plans. Me... I would settle for better roads and pavements, better tended parks and gardens & monuments, amy of which are in a terrible state.

This city is being wrecked!
22

Fast Phil,

09/01/2009 13:27:25
#12 Bob2

I'm with you on that one
23

NYC Hibee,

edinburgh 09/01/2009 13:27:32
People always have and always will want to use their cars.
How about an expressway running right through the centre? Two levels, one eastward and one westbound bulit above the existing railway. Converging on a huge multi-storey car park beneath a re-landscaped Princes Street Gardens to pay for it?
24

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 13:28:42
I used to drink a bottle of vodka a day.
25

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 13:29:15
VALIUM k'sh k'sh VALIUM
26

Bill MacD,

09/01/2009 13:33:02
That picture looks really dangerous! They need barriers to stop cars falling in. Stop this scheme now before someone is killed!!!
27

unclegus,

edinburgh 09/01/2009 13:33:56
The £4.5 million scheme to build an underground car park on Chambers Street in front of the Royal Museum was first mooted in 2005. The existing 89 parking bays would be replaced by 100 underground spaces built on either side of the William Chambers statue and around a dozen firms have expressed an interest. Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, said: "This would make a lot of sense, Charlotte Square is a lot more central than Chambers Street and it is in the heart of the city centre where these spaces are needed.
So £4.5 million for 11 additional parking spaces is a good idea.
where was Bruce Young when the brains were given out?
28

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 09/01/2009 13:37:07
Its a trap.

You can tell. Look at it.
29

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 13:48:39
I think these plans might be recycled.

Why else would the artists impression have the automobile be a Ford Escort Mark III?

SILLY
30

wolfette,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 13:49:27
they built an "automatic carpark". Lasted a couple of months before it closed down as "unprofitable", didn't it?

31

tartangladbach,

edinburgh 09/01/2009 14:01:34
why not have valet parking as you enter the city centre, then 15 minutes before you need your car simply text your attendent? no expensive trams, no expensive land purchases!
32

Jonathan,

UAE 09/01/2009 14:15:02
I've used undergound systems before. Because they are underground, and not housed in an ugly building, they save a huge amount of space allowing more street level parking if required. I know this is good progress. Well done Edinburgh!
33

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 09/01/2009 14:28:26
I've been underground as well.
i didnt like it.
34

dba,

Haymarket 09/01/2009 15:32:04
'City leaders are considering'...four words that bring fear and trembling to my heart!
What on earth are the originators of these totally fantasmagorical ideas snorting, smoking or drinking...FOR PITY'S SAKE get a dose of REALITY - we're entering the worse recession for the last 300 years... and they're talking about City Centre Underground Carparks...by the time it gets built - the only one allowed or able to drive cars in the City Centre.... WILL BE COUNCILLORS!
35

Lang Spoon,

Leith 09/01/2009 15:46:58
Build an underground carpark if you must; but please don't involve the private sector (city would be ripped off) and don't make it automatic (see above, the autosafe carpark next to the Sheraton was a failure).
There is a plot of land in the centre not doing anything, try the old Palais site in Fountainbridge!
36

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 15:53:32
If they ban the trams, it'll just drive them underground.

Toy trains that smell of chip pans are banned in Glasgow.
37

Foo,

09/01/2009 16:18:19
FOO UNVEILS PLANS FOR GIANT UNDERGROUND CHIPPY

A giant underground chippy would be built below the streets of Edinburgh under plans being considered by Foo.

The Evening News has learned that the ambitious proposal is part of a wider bid to revamp the city's West End.

Foo states "It is likely that the chippy may, or could be likely, to possibly be situated under the very streets you and I walk on day in day out, likes".

Foo, who has been romantically linked to a number of beauties around Oxgang’s elite, began his career by becoming the first under 21 year old to open a newsagent below Trafalgar square.
38

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 09/01/2009 16:20:32
#27
Quite right. 4.5m - which will turn out to be closer to 10m for an extra 11 parking places. Just hold on a few month, and with the job losses and business closures, there will be 100's of spare parking places.

#36
Who told you that you stopped drinking??
39

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 16:29:11
#38 Wow, what a funny joke. You really are cool.

#37 could I get a fish supper and a bag of cans please.
40

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 16:29:57
#37

Make them 500ml cans of Holsten, as I've an affy drooth.

Slainte!
41

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 16:30:25
I don't really. I'm an immigrant.
42

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 09/01/2009 16:32:27
Who said Maggie Brown hasn't done anything for the Scottish Economy. All the job losses and business closures will s[pare the need for extra parking places, and this save having to spend ??????.

Wait a minute. Are the people that are going to build this the same people that build the Holyrood carbuncle?? That would mean 4.5m turns into 45m - and it won't work properly.
43

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 16:33:57

Maggie Brown is a ride. Daphne Brown's more of a park and w&nk.
44

Niko Bellic,

09/01/2009 16:34:46
Oops! deleted again.

I meant to say 'wonk' as in policy advisor.
45

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 17:20:57
Yet another completely bonkers idea from those in charge of this city.

They sure do know how to waste a bob or two with their hairbrained ideas.

First a next-to-useless tram line, and now they're proposing putting a bloody underground car park in Charlotte Square of all places.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

What next I wonder?, will the rock the Castle sits on be hollowed out to create the world's best nuclear bunker for muppets?

Hey, it would be a snip at a cost of £3 billion, all taxpayer funded of course..
46

Hmm ...,

09/01/2009 17:55:36
... I'm highly entertained by the above comments from our usual drunks and confused.

However, these parks are in common use on the Continent and are very large. I haven't seen the bit about there being only 11 spaces and I think that that would be a hugely wasted opportunity.

Otherwise, let's have his park and lots more like it - Edinburgh is not short of ornamental gardens which would still provide the same amenity once the work had been done. Ad we do need more off-street parking to relieve the strain on on-street spaces, which could be restricted to short stay.

This short period would provide the city council with far more revenue as short time limits would mean that all users would run out of time much more often in the course of a day, increasing parking revenue for the Council. Win, win!!
47

MacKenzie,

Edinburgh 09/01/2009 20:17:47
Maybe there's something in the water supply in the City Chambers that makes our elected representatives come up with these ideas.
First it was the giant train set in the form of the trams, then it was the giant TV screen in the gardens, and now it's the giant garage for their toy cars. Makes you wonder what'll be next.
48

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 09/01/2009 23:08:45
it.will.never.pay.for.itself.second.shear.madness

 

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