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Published Date: 09 February 2009
PARKING attendants handed out almost £50,000 worth of tickets in a single day after targeting bank holiday motorists – the equivalent of more than two a minute for the hours they worked.
A total of 1615 penalty notices were issued in Edinburgh on January 2, compared to 416 the following day and just 89 on January 4.

Assuming all the £30 charges were paid, the tickets would have handed the city council £48,450 for just one day's work.

The figures were today branded "inexcusable" by one motoring organisation, but the council said it had done everything it could to advertise the restrictions.

Council bosses had allowed drivers to park free of charge on selected streets over the festive period as a sign of seasonal goodwill, but charges were in place on January 2.

The council said the day was treated the same as any other, with an average number of attendants patrolling the streets from 8.30am to 6.30pm.

In 2008 a total of 1566 tickets were given to drivers on January 2, and 1781 were handed out on the same date in 2007.

One motorist, who did not want to be named, received two tickets in the space of two hours in Ashley Terrace on January 2.

The 35-year-old said he felt motorists had been caught out because of the relaxation of the restrictions in some parts of the city over Christmas.

He said: "I think the way they have acted is quite cavalier. They basically lulled motorists into a false sense of security by relaxing the restrictions one day and then stung us the next."

Bruce Young, of the Association of British Drivers, said: "I thought January 2 was a public holiday, but it obviously isn't for parking attendants.

"I'm surprised they were working at all that day – it's inexcusable. This is symptomatic of Edinburgh City Council's approach to parking revenue, that they would seek to benefit from the sales and people coming into the city to shop. They obviously saw it as an opportunity."

A council spokesman said: "There are four public holidays each year that are not enforceable – Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Year's Day and Easter Monday. This has been the case for the past 11 years.

"The council makes every effort to communicate this information to drivers via printed parking literature, its website, through the local media and on the ticket machines themselves."

Edinburgh's parking rules and regulations last year netted the city council a record-breaking £20 million from motorists.

The income from fines, pay-and-display tickets, and residential parking permits soared by more than £3m in the last financial year

Critics have accused the council of using drivers as an "easy target" to help tackle its financial woes.


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1

Skip McClendon,

09/02/2009 12:01:53
Their parents must be so proud...
2

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 12:02:01
Okay. Mario just bought 150,000 shares in your company today.

I want you to sit up, pay attention and get those adsellers back from their fag breaks - theres work to be done.
3

enough!,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 12:07:00
It's neither wonder that Edinburgh is dying as a shopping location and as a friendly city...

Well done Edinburgh Council and traffic wardens - you make us proud and hopeful...bunch of vultures!!
4

brandy al,

embra 09/02/2009 12:09:39
I suppose it has to be done but it takes a very weird person who smiles when doing it.
5

Wingman,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 12:11:43
January the 2nd is A Scottish Public Holiday, there is no excuse for this stage managed sting operation to net unsuspecting tax paying members of the public, this stinks and both NPC and the Council should feel thoroughly ashamed of this figure. I have no problem with double yellowers or similar dangerous parking that day, but this is tantamount to theft.
6

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 12:11:49
4 You talking about buying JP shares ?
7

Council Insider,

Council HQ 09/02/2009 12:24:07
Boring. Same old story every year.
8

Ecto,

09/02/2009 12:26:10
# 5 you are absilutley correct, the council should not have traffic wardens out on this day other than to enforce double yellow's. It is clearly not publicised correctlty if so many people have been caught. Also encouraging people to move their cars on the 2nd Jan is encouraging drink driving. It'sa holiday and there should be no restrictions.
9

Foo,

09/02/2009 12:40:58
I quite like going to Ocean Terminal. Free parking, warmth, decent enough spread of shops and I like looking at whatever ships are docked.

I once saw a submarine.
10

Fecker,

09/02/2009 12:45:27
I saw a floater once
11

Statsman,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 13:02:59
The morally and economically bankrupt council strike again.
12

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 13:05:43
I dont see the problem with this. And Brandys reason (that most scots are still drunk) hardly makes it any better.
13

The Judge,

09/02/2009 13:21:42
Bruce Young, of the Association of British Drivers, said: "I thought January 2 was a public holiday, but it obviously isn't for parking attendants.

Yes that's right Bruce, you thought it was a pubic holiday for everybody but it wasn't. The parking attendants were just doing their job.

What's your problem?
14

The Judge,

09/02/2009 13:24:08
150,000 shares in JP? A fool and his money are easily parted. JP cannot repay their loans and are always about 3 weeks away from receivership!

I'm going to bid for the EEN so I can turn it into a newspaper.
15

blackley,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 13:25:02
Is it still good news day?
16

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 13:27:39
14

I admit its a gamble. But up 13% today and it looks like they have a buyer for the irish titles.



17

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 13:28:20
(they are only 8p each before you start thinking im warren buffet).
18

Decent,

09/02/2009 13:30:16
17 - Will you marry me?
19

Mombasa,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 13:36:10
My son and daughter-in-law paid me a visit on New Year’s Day at 10.30 am.

I live in a quiet side street, but when they returned to their car about an hour later, they discovered a parking ticket had been fixed to the windscreen.
20

Flying Upsidedown,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 13:40:39
It was not advertised properly, in the week before Christmas I tried to find out what the restrictions were for the public holidays. I sent 4 emails and made 6 phonecalls before I got through to the parking pound and was (grudgingly) told that normal restrictions would be in place. None of the emails were replied to!

Edinburgh Council should take a long hard look at them selfs from the perspective of the people who use the services they provide, they appear to me to come over as a group of money grabbing, unsympathetic and uncaring predators.
21

Bill MacD,

09/02/2009 13:50:10
It's so funny reading all the dimwits complaining about parking regulations. Of course we need rules and people to enforce them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in LaLaLand. We can't go back to the 1930s. And without well-enforced rules, the streets would quickly clog up. Get real.

So it's really very simple. Obey the rules, which are the same for all of us, and you won't have a problem. Don't like tickets? Then don't behave like a selfish ignoramus and hope to get away with it. What a bunch of idiots.
22

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 14:00:15
Unlike Bill, I CAN go back to the 1930's any time I want and I live in Lalaland.

Basically there is a little lane in Lalacity , i go down there wearing an overcoat accompianied by a guy from Only Fools and horses , and all of a sudden I'm back in the 1930's. I stock up on goosefat and stockings then I go home.
23

High Lines Jambo,

09/02/2009 14:04:46
Bill MacD

I think you have missed the point here. The rules for parking on 2nd Jan were never made clear, which is why there were 1615 tickets given out that day. The fact that only 416 were given out the next day (when the rules were clear) suggests that maybe the council are at it.
24

E300,

09/02/2009 14:20:47
Let's hope the wardens keep up the good work in the face of adversity. A bit more dedication to duty by the wardens plus the credit crunch should guarantee a further decline in the City centre.
25

NorT,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 14:22:38
The anti car Edinburgh Council deliberately have obscure parking regulation so they can rake in the money. After all that is what the regulations are there for, not to provide safe parking or clear roadways. Edinburgh parking does not have the usual public holidays so that they can confuse the motorist and then penalise them and say it all the motorist fault. Try finding out the rules and regulations and even council officials don't know them.
26

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 14:22:49
"...and on the ticket machines themselves."

In other words, if you were a "victim" here and you have proof that the notice wasnt posted on the machines - you know what to do.
27

E300,

09/02/2009 14:28:03
21 Bill MacD
"Don't like tickets?"

That is exactly why so many people prefer to shop on line or at Craig Park, Straiton, The Gyle, Oceon Terminal and for some serious shopping Glasgow
28

jambos86,

09/02/2009 15:14:10
Guys, go to Livingston, far better shop than the capital, easy parking, no tram works.
29

Grumpy,

09/02/2009 15:30:44
And just how are the public supposed to find out what the regulations are? They're not posted anywhere on the streets, and on 2nd January there's no point in phoning the council to ask, as they're shut for the holidays.
30

Hmm ...,

09/02/2009 15:38:19
... they're shut because it's a public holiday. Is that right, Grump?

Edinburgh City Council is a bunch of cash hungry opportunists who hate cars anyway - slimebags! They are deliberately destroying the city's economy.
31

Padraig,

09/02/2009 15:43:44
This City Council is fast destroying Edinburgh. We've replaced the Labour administration - now are we to haveto do the same to their LibDem clones? Is the problem the employees? In which case, the current Councillors had better start hiring and firing - or they will be out the door themselves!
32

BobW,

Embra 09/02/2009 16:20:51
Yes. The Cooncil was shut on 2nd January. It was a public holiday for all council workers. Not for the parking Clarksons.
33

Kirspin,

Fergus, Ontario twinned with Blairgowie 09/02/2009 16:35:06
I know from personal experience, dont drive in Edinburgh even if you have Blue Badge sticker and dont have the right information either, just get a Taxi instead, will be telling all our friends here in Canada that maybe coming to the "Homecoming" just avoid Edinburgh for Shopping, stick to the Shopping centers that have Free Parking, Edinburgh Council is a disgrace, Greed is very evident at that place!
34

James (1),

09/02/2009 16:38:06
Where did the drivers get the information that it was ok to park?
Guess work? Well the guess was wrong. Pay up and shut up!
35

Andrew,

09/02/2009 17:32:42
If there was ever a case for the Trams (plus the additional lines) the Waverley Route & South Sub re-openings, Park & Ride at Here, There and Everywhere else, etc etc THEN T H I S I S I T!!!
36

calum,

09/02/2009 17:39:25
#36 - Let's get the police to smash their windscreens and drag the careless parkers through the gap so that they get cut with shards of glass. Then a good beating with something leathery and then a savaging by a police dog that hasn't been fed for a week. Round it off with a good dose of the mustard gas, eh Tony?
And the present Chief Constable, Tony? That's right, trained in England ..... in the Met. Go on, look it up.
37

calum,

09/02/2009 18:13:02
#40 - Wrong again. Ended up as Divisional Commander at Wembley and came here as an Assistant Chief Constable - hardly a reject! Go on, look it up.
http://www.lbp.police.uk/about/forcemanagement/chiefconstable/chiefconstable.asp
38

BobW,

On the road 09/02/2009 18:17:32
36# Where is the evidence of 99.9% of Edinburgh drivers driving badly? Or are you just talking out of your **se as usual.
39

craft the musk,

09/02/2009 18:41:24
I think the point here is tolerance. There have always been TWs in Edinburgh. But the TWs didn't always behave like they were just out to make money. A car parked slightly over a demarcation line? Fine 'em, they are instructed, for it fills the coffers with much needed cash, even if the offending vehicle isn't doing any harm.

Basically the TWs are like the dudes who sell plastic novelties out of a holdall except instead of a plastic holdall it is a handheld ticketing yoke, and instead of plastic novelties, it's a rip-off brief.

TWs - sorry guys but basically its a scammy racket.

I knows it
You knows it
Even dugs in the street know it.

A dog (33 in dog years, Balerno) said yesterday:

"Barky barky woof woof ruff SCAMMY RACKET AND YOU KNOWS IT.COM woof barkety barkoid barks ya bark stewards"
40

craft the musk,

09/02/2009 18:43:32



www.scammyracketandyousknowsit.com

(not to be confused with mysticedinburgh.com, which was a load of garbage)
41

nSyratzcGlaw,

09/02/2009 19:11:22
"However, a spokesman for Johnston Press told PrintWeek that reports that KPMG had been appointed to restructure company debt are not entirely accurate.

He said: "KPMG was appointed a couple of weeks ago, but newspaper reports have exaggerated their role. "

Oh the irony !!!!
42

Philip Thompson,

Morningside 09/02/2009 19:11:43
These people should not be paid incentives for targetting motorists.

It used to be the job or parking wardens to ensure that people parked in appropriate places in a non-selfish way so that they weren't causing obstructions for instance - and that's how it should be - they should be working for the benefit of all motorists - not to target them.

I'm all in favour of privatisation to encourage competition - but not for things like this.
43

craft the musk,

09/02/2009 19:41:24


oh the barkness.

"permission to land".

I.WISH.DECENT.WAS.HERE.
44

craft the musk,

09/02/2009 19:42:08
CRAFT THE MUSK, FRANKLY
45

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 20:04:59
Gorgie_Tony

I'm waiting for the post where you say the car drivers that you so hate should 'be dragged from their cars, hit with batons and then gassed'.

Your whole stance to motorists lends a distinct comparison with some of Nazi Germany's practices of WW2.





46

The Sheriff,

09/02/2009 20:26:26
More recycled news from Edinburghs daily rag,ffs this is old news.They even print the numbers in their words "caught out".

Read the f'ing parking machines,it tells you on them the "free parking days".

Whilst I'm on I'd like to point out that vehicles parked on double yellow lines (unless bluebadge holders)double yellow lines with two kerb markings,time plated bustops,timplated disable bays(non display of Bluebadge)are enforceable offences 24/7 so stick that in yer pipes and smoke it.
47

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 20:27:12
#54

It's not the UK's traffic laws and legislation I'm comparing to Nazi Germany.

It's your ludicrous attitude towards other people and especially motorists I'm comparing to Hitler's ill-fated 1000 year empire..

48

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 20:27:50
#54
what is this fixation with lothian and borders police and car drivers
did one offer you sweeties to go for a ride,or are you just mumping yer gums as usual
i dont drive a car,i cycle,but i dont let forth a stream of hatred towards car drivers
i think you have a psychological problem with cuntstables and cars
did you get a fright watching z cars?
achtung seig heil her tony
49

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 20:32:52
#54 maybe your a member of the wee free kirk,you know those peely wally faced moans,who say "you shall not enjoy yourself",you shall not indulge in fornication at all",but we all say
YES WE SHALL!
ya po faced eejit,heres 20p to get yer face unpuckered as it looks like an @rsehole in a january gale
50

undercover pa,

edin 09/02/2009 20:42:54
we did not get the choice to have the 2nd jan off and as for the pcn handed out on the 3rd& 4th that was the sat and sun which there are less pa,s on the street on these day on any sat there is around 50 and sunday 8 pa,s onthe street but some of the pa ,s where coming in on the 2nd happy that they had pcn 30 or so cars. The council were off these day but remember we are hired by our english masters on behave of the council and as most people think we get bonuses well with all these pcn handed out then why did we only get £15 argos vouchers that works out to around £1500 to pa,s dont know what the supervisor or managers got again we had no choice to work
51

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 20:45:17
#59

Put simply Tony, your attitude is ludicrous and it's all because of your own total lack of understanding of anything to do with driving.

What you do is then tar all drivers with your own ill-informed brush.

Your attitude towards other drivers stinks quite frankly, and until you're able to know what your talking about when it comes to this subject I suggest you refrain from filling these pages with your half-witted nonsense.
52

tumshie heid,

09/02/2009 20:55:20
Tony, you obviously sit on that bench drinking Buckfast and asking for spare change.
53

krusty the klown,

09/02/2009 21:16:54
Good to see that these public servants are doing the job they are paid to do, and effectively. But,

wot's the problem wi #59's post? Seems quite an accurate observation to me?
54

wolfette,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 21:26:18
"Parking Attendants" sounds like someone who will help you park your car.

They should be called "Enforcers".

55

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 09/02/2009 21:33:57
leave.the.damn.car.at.home.take.the,bus
56

Sue Baru,

09/02/2009 21:51:50
Yes, regulations should be enforced, but it should be done in a reasonable way. Otherwise, respect for rules and rulemakers declines - that leads to anarchy too!

Everyone knows parking restrictions in Edinburgh have nothing to do with providing a service to residents (unclogged streets) and everything to do with milking motorists for as much as possible.

The enforcers are driven by revenue targets and the council just make themselves less respected by denying it. Their short-sighted greed will destroy Edinburgh as a commercial centre.
57

Douglas,

Bathgate 09/02/2009 21:55:43
At least he's leaving the "feral youth" alone.
58

nho,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 22:18:44
Jesus, what driver rattled Tony's cage. Sounds like he's gonna give himself a coronary. Stay indoors man. Is sounds safer for you.
59

CRUSADER,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 22:28:14
what is the drivers problems? read the pay and display machines it clearly states the restricted hours and dates,if you get a fine cos you thought it was free well duh!
60

krusty the klown,

09/02/2009 22:32:56
# 73 - for once I can empathise with this guy - partner had an accident and was in a wheelchair for a few months - jeez, as he says getting around was a nightmare due to bad drivers/parking and really bad road conditions
61

CRUSADER,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 22:36:37
gorgie_tony my friend,i see horrific driving/parking every day of my life,delivery drivers asking why they cant park on double yellow lines on a junction! or car drivers arguing they had only been in the bus stop/ disabled bay for ten minutes!these people should have their licenses removed,and possibly be shot,ha wishful thinking!
62

CRUSADER,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 22:43:12
#19 you are talking nonsense there was no council enforcement on new years day,so get of the bandwagon you clown!
63

Julian.,

edinburgh 09/02/2009 22:46:41
Crusader and Gorgie_Tony,

It just shows how biased you guys are that you defend this ridiculous decision to enforce regulations on 2nd January.

I mean what's the point in relaxing regulations before and after Xmas and then taking a stupid hardline decision to enforce them on a public holiday? Totally inconsistent.

Amd considering most people aren't even at work on 2nd January there's not much point in having the regulations anyway on that day.
64

GorgieRepublic,

Edinburgh 09/02/2009 22:51:14
And yet the few spots we could really use traffic wardens - the bus lanes around the damned tramworks like Haymarket for example - haven't been patrolled in months and are often full of vehicles blocking the bus stops and creating even more delays on top of the works every single rush hour with total impunity.
65

tumshie heid,

09/02/2009 23:46:22
Tony cuddle in under your army surplus blanket on your bench and give us peace.If you are lucky a drunk will throw his fish supper at you. Tomorrow is another day and you can call for the hounds of hell to be unleashed on motorists then.
66

Hmm ...,

09/02/2009 23:57:10
... I am increasingly sure that Gorgie Toni is one and the same as the strangely absent Jenny McArthur, whose hatred of cars and their drivers is just as obsessive and abusive as Gorgie's!

Strange people, both of her!
67

Julian.,

edinburgh 10/02/2009 00:42:32
#82 Gorgie_Tony

"Parking regulations are not relaxed on every public holiday (only specified ones) - so why make 2nd January any different?"

Answer: Because they relaxed the regulations for the whole of December. Why make all those days in December any different?

And you tell me, what's the point of having parking regulations on a day when hardly anyone works?
68

Julian.,

edinburgh 10/02/2009 03:20:31
Tony,

And how about any Saturday afternoon or full day Sunday in December...they seem like days when loads of shoppers would be coming into Edinburgh. And what does the council do? Abolish parking regulations/charges.

But when it comes to 2nd of January, a public holiday when, as you say, shoppers will be coming into Edinburgh they go back to normal regulations...totally inconsistent.

Tony, can you not just look past your anti-car stance for a moment and see that this is unfair and inconsistent. I'm all for parking regulations at the right time and place.
69

tumshie heid,

10/02/2009 08:54:15
#88 Don't try and appeal to his common sense he doesn't have any.
Break out the mustard gas, death to the motorist and their unapplied seat strap.
70

Si-co onalist,

Ed 10/02/2009 15:45:34
GT is not far from the truth when referring to drivers' behaviour, sure I'm not innocent either, it's just the way you put it mate!

Inconsideration also includes clogging up a parking bay by parking your car over two spaces when the council has just decimated the number of spaces available.

Sure the council advertised the parking relaxation in December like mad - it would have been a thoughtful gesture to add each time though that restrictions would return on Jan 2nd. It's only natural to get into the swing of concessions and assume they'll continue on a public holiday. A bit of foresight would avoid folk thinking it's a trap and stitchup job.
71

kieran.....,

10/02/2009 17:11:20
I think i've seen gorgie tony sitting on a park bench,outside the parrish,,poor wee devil.
72

The real dracula,

10/02/2009 18:42:49
Am I missing something here.
Traffic wardens job is to ticket unlawfully parked cars so if they are ticketing 2 cars a minute then these cars are illegally parked. And that means they are doing their job !!!!!

Its the drivers responsibility to check the parking arrangements to avoid getting a ticket.

As for gorgie Tony you need to see a counseller if your idea of entertainment is to sit and study other car drivers behaviour and it is sad. Unless you are highly qualified driving instructer any comments you make on others driving are invalid , they are your opinion only.

But I suspect you know this and love the attention you get by spouting forth a stream of pointless opinions.
73

TWs_make_me_cross,

10/02/2009 22:29:23
Tony_Gorgie, Gorgie_Tony. Whatever.

People are idiots if they don't listen to local radio and don't regard the councils website as essential reading, are they?

People are clowns if they live in a non-metered location, so rarely even see a parking meter, are they? Ashley Terrace isn't city centre, and so doesn't have parking meters. It's also not a shopping street, so "disrupting commerce" doesn't wash either.

If the TW's failed to ticket anybody on one bank holiday, but then ticketed hundreds the very next day (also a bank holiday) then the recipients of the tickets are all clowns? What, hundreds of them?

Or could it just be possible, as confirmed to me unofficialy, that 2nd January is well known as "the day" to work if you're traffic warden.

In response to the "did everything possible to advertise the restrictions" - apart from, perhaps, putting up a signpost visible to all?

Oh - and "99.9% of Edinburgh car drivers would fail a driving test tomorrow". Really? Do you get your stats from the same place you get your opinions which are, clearly, pulled out of your ...
74

TWs_make_me_cross,

10/02/2009 22:45:07
#72 - I've issued an FOI request, asking for such details. I'll get back to Chris Marshall with the details if/when I receive them.

Still at #72 - I couldn't agree more that parking regulations need to be enforced but, as someone else pointed out, it needs to be done with reason, fairness and consistency.

From my research, a lot of parking tickets refunds occur when the restrictions weren't clear (source: www.pepipoo.com, just so you know I'm not guilty of pulling figures out of my nether regions). In this case, due to the councils own actions, it wasn't clear that the restrictions were in place on 2nd January.
75

wolfette,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 21:01:46
I find the term "parking attendant" to be somewhat misleading. An "attendant" should help you park. They should be called "parking enforcers".

2nd January, one of my neighbours who doesn't have a residents permit because he's not normally home during the restriction hours parked outside his house. it was a holiday - he was on holiday, like the rest of Scotland - and of course he got a ticket.

 

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