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Published Date: 26 December 2007
THE Queen used her 50th Christmas message yesterday to stress the importance of caring for "outsiders" who find themselves on the "edge of society".
Wearing the same three-stringed pearl necklace – her favourite piece of jewellery – that she did for the 1957 speech, the Queen talked about how the strength of family ties had proved to be an important counterpoint to massive and rapid changes elsewhere.

Black-and-white footage from the 1957 address, showing the Queen as a youthful, dark-haired 31-year-old monarch, was used at the beginning and end of this year's speech.

The 1957 message was read live from the Long Library at her country retreat, Sandringham, in Norfolk. She had been on the throne for only five years.

The first Christmas speech was made on the radio by the Queen's grandfather, George V, in 1932. But illustrating how times have changed, the annual broadcast is now beamed worldwide on the internet via the video clip website YouTube, can be downloaded as a podcast and, for the first time this year, was available in high definition.

"One of the features of growing old is a heightened awareness of change," the Queen said yesterday. "To remember what happened 50 years ago means that it is possible to appreciate what has changed in the meantime. It also makes you aware of what has remained constant.

"In my experience, the positive value of a happy family is one of the factors of human existence that has not changed.

"The immediate family of grandparents, parents and children, together with their extended family, is still the core of a thriving community.

"When Prince Philip and I celebrated our diamond wedding last month, we were much aware of the affection and support of our own family as they gathered round us for the occasion."

With a Christian theme, the head of the Church of England spoke of how Mary, Joseph and the newborn Jesus were a family who were shut out. The Queen urged people to take care of those cut off from society.

"The Christmas story also draws attention to all those people who are on the edge of society – people who feel cut off and disadvantaged; people who, for one reason or another, are not able to enjoy the full benefits of living in a civilised and law-abiding community," she said.

"For these people, the modern world can seem a distant and hostile place. It is all too easy to 'turn a blind eye', 'to pass by on the other side' and leave it to experts and professionals."

WATCH ONE ON YOUTUBE

THE Queen's Christmas message had been viewed just over 200 times on YouTube by last night.

Her 1957 message – the first such televised broadcast – attracted much more attention, racking up over 700,000 views in four days, making it the 17th-most-watched clip of this week.

Among the footage most popular yesterday were highlights from matches played this week by Manchester United and Everton, viewed more than 6,000 times, and Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur, clicked on more than 2,000 times.

Also popular were clips from the comedy show The Mighty Boosh and footage of celebrities discussing their plans for Christmas day. Among the "most discussed" clips yesterday were "How to wrap Christmas presents" and an alternative version of the 12 days of Christmas.

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  • Last Updated: 25 December 2007 11:03 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The Monarchy
 
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25/12/2007 23:39:05
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The Strategist,

26/12/2007 00:18:04
Actually I thought she might have been talking about the royal family itself...
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Abby on line,

New Zealand 26/12/2007 09:09:04
Boy Wonder...what a terribley bitter, selfish little man you are. many millions of people world wide get strength and comfort from H M ,The Queen and look forward to her personal speech each year, me included. I suspect you think the whole world is wrong and you are the only right person on the planet. I feel really sorry for you..try making friends with someone..it does make a difference , and then join in the joy with the rest of us!
Danny NZ
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Eric D,

Renfrewshire 26/12/2007 09:27:08
Whit dis wee betty winsor ken aboot whits happenin oot there anywa'. His she ever visited ony o' the places she's talkin aboot. Dis she ken aboot the impact those ootsiders hiv on the Scots folk. Ur the ootsiders gettin a better deal than oor ain folk.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 26/12/2007 11:05:30
#14 Patrick

I notice you're still here. The Nirvanah that is the Republic of Ireland is a mere few hundred miles west of where you are. For your info, a fine Irish company called Ryanair provides a service there for a few pounds. And, for your further information, Her Majesty's influence on either her government or her Inland Revenue is in name only.
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shivago8,

livingston 26/12/2007 11:15:36
What about the ten,s of thousands insiders who are a "dredge to society"
All mother,s have a duty to look after there ain weans but the government are not interested in these people,BRITISH,IN NEED AND UNCARED FOR,THAT INCLUDES THE PENSIONERS WHO FOUGHT AND HELD THIS COUNTRY TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS,BUT NOW PUT OUT TO GRASS AND WITH THE FEELING YOU HAVE DONE YOUR BIT NOW SCARPER.
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Gothic Rose,

26/12/2007 11:32:12
I don`t know! Turn my back for five minutes and the place goes pearshaped!!
Web Designer where are you? Someone has scuppered what was a classy site.Now it is like all the rest, a piece of??? To be filled in, at ones discretion.Happy New Year Folks.xxx
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revsween,

26/12/2007 11:44:45
13 14 #Why do HMRC give me grief ?do you think its because I'm Scottish ? The Irish have a bad reputation (within the construction industry)of working in the UK then legging it when the Tax is due
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Boy Wonder,

26/12/2007 12:00:58
#7. "... bitter, selfish little..." Three words that do not describe me at all. In fact, I am quite the opposite of them all.

As I have said before to Canadians, Australians, Septics, and many others of varying nationalities ... You like 'em so much ... YOU pay for the keeping of them! Let them live with you as well ... because there's more than just a few of us fed up with the anachronistic parasites that they are, and those who support them!


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AS Well,

Off Island 26/12/2007 12:11:07
Time to Wave the Royal Flag and arouse deep feelings.

Certainly there are many ways of viewing the Queen and her message.
I read her words as an elderly woman putting a life of change into perspective. Of the challenges we all face during increasingly rapid change, I find her viewpoint, as a human being, not a Queen, interesting.
Because she was vague about exactly whom we are to attend to on the margins, except for those living under violence, anyone can imagine who she speaks of.
#13: What if this is NOT about you?

One rather telling part of this article was how FEW watched it as of last night.
"THE Queen's Christmas message had been viewed just over 200 times on YouTube by last night..."

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Colin Peters,

Bradford West Yorkshire 26/12/2007 12:35:35
If 'living on the edge of society', includes those who have been robbed unmercifully through the criminal antics of the supposed pillars of society, lawyers and the 'professional' classes, then I must include myself.
For 21 years I have fought for justice against a crook who caused me the loss of everything that I once had through his trickery and deceptions.
He was able to procure £32,000 of legal aid,(to evade a debt of £6,173 !!!) on one pack of lies, and, five years later, a judgement favourable to himself, on a
conflicting pack of lies.
He could not have accomplished this without being aided and abetted by lawyers.
How it was all done, and the documents in proof, can be found at my website at http://colinpetersbd40jh.tripod.com

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/12/2007 12:57:09
All you posters had better get used to Boy Wonder's usual rants against the royal family. It is becoming horribly repetitive and tedious BUT he is entitled to his opinion as this is an open forum.

I don't think HM "talked down" to the millions who viewed her annual Christmas message and I think BW has got it all wrong in the intent of The Queen's message.

LONG LIVE THE QUEEN OF CANADA!!! HIP, HIP HURRAH YOUR MAJESTY!!!
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Mcsnagpile,

26/12/2007 13:21:12
Spent many years helping out with the soup kitchens and the-down-and-outs did not see any Guelphs.

Did watch and enjoy Dr Who.
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Patriot from Scotland,

Strachur 26/12/2007 13:24:35
Awa hame hen an geezabrek.
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camster,

Glasgow 26/12/2007 13:40:49
As usual we have the republicans trying to belittle the queen. They sound more out of date than the queen herself these days. I like the Coolio version of the 2007 queens speech which has already been viewed 20,000 times in less than 2 days.
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Major General Puffin-Stuff,

26/12/2007 14:10:04
#6 Hotel Yorba

Who on earth are the hard working white British "heteorosexual" males you are talking about? They sound a pretty rum bunch to me, and we are well rid of them if they are indeed emigrating in droves.
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Carnabwth,

South Wales 26/12/2007 14:35:36
This woman is so much out of touch with reality I see her speech as an insult to the people.
Her team of spin doctors did a lot of overtime this year.
In South Wales there are many dispensable subjects of the realm. We are downtrodden and persecuted by her corrupt police, courts and public servants.
Notwithstanding the above we are being used as guinea pigs at risk from unproven experimental energy experiments.
Get real Maam.
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Masque,

26/12/2007 15:52:23
I note the New Zealander and the Canadian appear to be big fans of the "Royal Family". Fine, I have no problem with that.

If they love and revere them so much, would they be be prepared to PAY for them, like we have unwillingly done for centuries?

Like other posters, I am very anti-monarchist and want shot of the whole parasitical lot of them! Let them go to Canada or NZ. They're welcome to them!



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Conan the Librarian™,

26/12/2007 15:58:04
Chairman,they may pay taxes,but do we get free houses,transport,food and drink and servants?
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 26/12/2007 16:23:44
#38 Conan

As far as I can see, Her Maj is a lot more value for money than your average MSP or MP. Subsidised food, transport and accomodation ain't just the preserve of her and her family. Plus she's still doing her bit at 81. With the odd honourable exception (Tony Benn, Dennis Skinner) your average politico will have long retired on a nice pension by that age.
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Charles Douglas Wehner,

26/12/2007 16:39:25
I remember how the Queen "came through" for Paul Burrell, and how Prince Philip was beaten black and blue for trying to stop the invasion of Iraq. I also remember the first words of the Queen's uncle, King Edward VIII, as he adbicated:

"At long last I can say a few words of my own. I have not wanted to withhold anything from you, but until now it has not been constitutionally possible for me to speak".

Since 1712, the Monarchy has been run by terrorists behind the scenes. All speeches are written for the Queen. She has no choice in the matter. A load of platitudes are written, to try to make the public like her. However, they have no influence whatever upon society.

Some people keep writing to the Queen, and think it is arrogance when she does not reply. In reality, Masons steal her post-bag. Those Masons then do the exact opposite of what the victim wants.

It is best to ignore the Queen and her speeches.

Charles Douglas Wehner


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Conan the Librarian™,

26/12/2007 16:42:08
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I'll give you Liz.
But the rest of them?





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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 26/12/2007 16:59:20
34 Chairman Gordon,
"I see all the middle-class Marxists have got of their hangovers, then..."

Very Good! :-DD
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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 26/12/2007 17:08:21
Is arguing over the Queen, that important?
NO matter how frustrated you are, Her Majesty, ain't gonna disappear over night!
Another 5/10minutes of you life's, in getting 'stessed' over 'Nothing'
NO WONDER, the 'grey hairs' are setting in! ;-))
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 26/12/2007 17:25:06
I'll see you Liz and raise you Charles. I like eccentrics and his work with the Princes Trust in the 80s and since has done more to help young people than most politicians. His concern for the enviroment and rural society seems genuine enough also. If we must have a head of state, we could do much worse. OK Andrew and Edward really do need to cut the apron strings but, again, nepotism isn't just the preserve of the royals. I agree the whole concept of monarchy is an anachronism but better the devil you know. There are very few politicians I'd trust to represent the country with as much dignity and genuine sense of duty.
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Conan the Librarian™,

26/12/2007 17:43:26
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Perhaps it is because I'm a republican at heart,but
I really can't see Charles becoming King.
William is certainly more photogenic...
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 26/12/2007 17:50:49
#47

And therein lies the problem. Why should the head of state be photogenic? Spin and looks seem more important to politicians than intelligence and honesty. That's one of the good things about Her Maj, she doesn't care that she's old fashioned or what people think about that. She does what she thinks is right.
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26/12/2007 17:54:13
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Major General Puffin-Stuff,

26/12/2007 20:48:09
Now, now, chaps - let's remember it IS the festive season.............Goodwill on Earth, and all that kind of thing - so we'll have a little less of the tedious juvenile baiting, young Chairman Gordon and Red Etin, please!

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/12/2007 21:29:19
35 Masque

You are impudent and impertinent, sir.

I AM a Canadian and very proud of it. HM IS the Queen of Canada and will be so until there is an Act of Canadian Parliament rescinding that title.

Keep your radical and republican rants to yourself, if you don't mind, dear chappie.
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The Strategist,

26/12/2007 22:10:00
#57

Sure but you also have your own Govt, Canada isn't a member of the EU, you don't suffer from the strangulating effect of the "British Establishment", the snobbery and hierarchy that still exists within UK society etc etc etc..

I'm not opposed to the Royal Family... I'd just like to take them out of the picture as far as our political system is concerned and give them the same sort of status as the Norwegian Royals... They'd probably be happier as well.

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Rodrigo,

Ashfield 26/12/2007 22:11:58
Hate to break it to you crypto-Fenians, but HM Liz is talking about the mental health patients incarcerated in the royal Edinburgh, among other places, so just who do you think you have been marginalising and excluding? It ain't the Scottish Exec, be sure of that, or the SNP hench-men!
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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 26/12/2007 22:43:42
'Tut Tut' was that you again BW, #5?
I'm gonna search it see what you said again!
Memory tells me it weren't nice!
Anger Management maybe? :-))
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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 26/12/2007 23:18:57
To early yet for the web, to have compiled all comments.
Think from memory #5 was 'blasphemy'
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Boy Wonder,

27/12/2007 08:33:02
#60. Yes it was me, Charles. Someone doesn't like me having an opinion it seems. And what I said was ...

"Didn't watch it, didn't hear it. I need no advice on how to behave towards others from that woman, whose wealth comes from off the backs of the taxation of poorer people and centuries of privilege. See to your own dysfunctional family, Mrs Glucksburg!"

As a confirmed anti-monarchist, my opinion is as good as the next person's ... and whoever takes offence at that is even worse than they think I am, because of their cowardice in not addressing my words here on the thread and having them removed because they are against anti-monarchists!

They may not LIKE what I say, but I have a right to say it ... just as I might not like what they say. I DO believe in the right to Free Speech!

And I'm saving this!








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Boy Wonder,

27/12/2007 08:35:44
Tim @ #57. Masque is entitled air his opinion just as much as you are. Especially if he pays taxes in this country. He has more rights than you there!
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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 27/12/2007 09:27:48
You ain't seen nothing yet!, when I become an "Administrator" for the Scotsman, you'll wish 'ye' never visited the site! :-DD
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Maurice Kirk, St Donats, Llantwit Major CF62 8AZ,

South Wales 27/12/2007 10:03:15
‘HM’. A myth or a malfeasance?

As a ‘war baby’, having once proudly held an RAFVR short term commission and always stood to attention immediately I heard the first bar of our National Anthem, it took me many months recently, therefore, of both ‘soul searching’ and the ‘gnashing of teeth’ to face up to the fact that both I and my family have all been thoroughly deceived.

If any British citizen, not ‘subject’, would care to just examine any Royal Charter or read the ‘judge’s oath of allegiance’ to Her Majesty (HM), before he or she can take up office in our so called ‘independent’ judiciary, then that citizen may soon be as annoyed as I am right now at the realization, albeit far too late, of the apparent deceit by our judges when telling us daily our HM judiciary is ‘independent’ of not just HM Crown Prosecution Service, HM Court Service, the hand of HM Attorney General but also HM Government!

I enclose an extract, as a current example, from the 1966 Veterinary Surgeons Act and equally out dated 1967 Veterinary Surgeons’ Royal Charter both very dependent on the ‘HM’ myth. Despite this Royal Charter, for veterinary surgeons to enjoy the privilege of practicing veterinary medicine, having been modified 10 times no less since 1844, it still holds the key of ‘invincible prejudice’ should anyone be so stupid as to challenge the veracity of it or any of Her Majesty’s agents protected by it from the due process of criminal law .

Extract:

“……and shall be taken, construed and adjudged in the most favourable and beneficial sense for the best advantage of the College as well in Our Courts of Record as elsewhere by all Judges, Justices, Officers, Ministers and other subjects whatsoever of Us, Our Heirs and Successors, any non-recital or other omission or thing to the contrary notwithstanding.”

Why, do you think, both Articles 1 and 13 from the 1950 European Convention of Human Rights have been deliberately omitted from the 1998 Human Rights Act if
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 27/12/2007 10:04:34
63 Boy Wonder

Please stop picking on me - I am recovering from a drinks party where the wines were MANY AND VERY VARIOUS!

A fun time was had by all - IF I can remember most of it and can recall those whome I insulted or did NOT insult. I think the former exceeded the latter. I must be taking after you at your most ingratiating.
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Findlay Thompson,

27/12/2007 11:38:21
#7 Abby on line

How dare you vilify 'Boy Blunder'. He has a right to air his opinions regardless of taste or accuracy. He does have a reasonably valid point concerning the situation (post #5) "does this country require a monarchial bandwagon in the 21st century". By the way 'Blunder' MI6 probably now have your IP address!
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Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 27/12/2007 19:56:40
The people of Scotland could not care less about this bunch of royal scroungers. What lizzie Windsor has to say is of no importance to the free thinking people of this country. We say! away with these parasites,and long live the Republic of Scotland! Phoblacht na Alba go bragh! Alba abhu!
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Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 27/12/2007 20:03:03
#28 ....... Patriot from Scotland. If I am to doff my cap to any person then I think that you have to be that person. Well said ,friend of the Scottish Republic!
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bluehead,

edinburgh 28/12/2007 13:03:38
look after outsiders!I thought that that was this goverment's hobby,they certainly don't care two hoots about their owwn people,any way the queen knows even less about us than this goverment does,perhaps we would
be better of with a herd of old goats running this
country than this decrepit labour pile
every time I see a politician I hold my nose and pull the plug
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Smackhead,

28/12/2007 17:15:22
Who gives a rats ass for these royal wasters? No one here in their right mind.
#71 you are a right wing fool that infects this site on a regular basis. Just accept that your dyed in the wool tories are all in the graveyard up here now. No one else cares for your royalist trash. Before you go off on a tirade I am NOT an SNP supporter. Just one that does not support your inane tripe.
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Charles Douglas Wehner,

31/12/2007 11:16:06
#65.
Maurice Kirk is very perceptive.

I have lost my copy of the European Convention, and therefore cannot answer the question without knowing the contents of the missing paragraphs.

However, it is far more sinister. Firstly, the method:

In the Evening Standard the question was asked of a "Government Whip" how members are kept "on message". The reply was "You look into their past. There is always something. It might be debt, or something sexual involving boys, but if you help a chap out he will do what you want forever".

In short - BLACKMAIL. The standard Masonic method.

After Britain was convicted of torture in Northern Ireland (a metal trash-can held over the head and beaten until the nerves are shattered - a Masonic standard), it was decided out of revenge to "help out" the chaps at the European Court of Human Rights. It has become a puppet.

Then came the British Court of Human Rights, run by a "prominent Freemason" according to the newspapers. Tony B Liar said it was to enshrine Human Rights into British law, and superficially that seems good. However it is the exact OPPOSITE.

You write to Strasburg, and the European court asks whether you have "exhausted all local remedies"? Have you tried the British Court of Human Rights?

You write to the British court, and they say they are deliberating. They are not.

You wait, wait and wait. Don't hold your breath whilst waiting for a decision.

When you write again to Strasburg, the puppet European court now has a PRETEXT for denying you your Human Rights. Until the British court gives a judgement, the "local remedies" are still open. You are waiting for the British court to make some move, and you could wait for centuries.

So Human Rights are dead.

Charles Douglas Wehner
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Smackhead,

01/01/2008 10:53:57
#73
Witty reply. Not. The fact you call yourself Chairman says it all! Chairman of what? Maybe you get off over chairs perhaps? What a goon.
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Charles Douglas Wehner,

01/01/2008 16:34:22
#65

I have this from Norman Scarth, of the Article 6 Group:

"The European Convention on Human Rights: Not only have British lawyers 'infiltrated' the ECtHR - they were there from the start!

"Britain being the main European victor in WW2, British lawyers, headed by Sir David Maxwell-Fyffe (later Lord Chancellor Kilmuir) were given the job of drafting the Convention.

"They PURPORTED to follow the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights, but the 'small print' inserted made it very different. Far from protecting 'Human Rights' their job is to protect crooked British Judges!"

Norman successfully defeated Britain at the European Court of Human Rights, but people at that court kept him informed about the shady dealings behind the scenes. He should know.

So, by the sabotaging of Human Rights, the 'outsiders' are kept disadvantaged - and indeed, all over Europe. The anodyne speeches that are given to the Queen to chant are simply intended to lull the public into a sense of false security.

Charles Douglas Wehner

 
  

 
 


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