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Published Date: 02 January 2009
By daniel bentley
A LARGE majority of voters remain opposed to Britain joining the euro ten years after it was introduced, according to a poll published yesterday.
Some 71 per cent of people are against entering the European single currency, with only 23 per cent in favour, the ICM survey for BBC Radio 4's The World At One found.

Respondents were also largely unswayed by the falling value of sterling against
the euro.

This week, the euro climbed to a record high of 98p against the pound.

Although some believe the euro could soon be worth more than the pound, the poll found that 69 per cent of people felt such a change made no difference to whether Britain should join the single currency and 14 per cent said it made them less inclined.

Only 15 per cent said that the pound's fall made them more keen on ditching sterling for the euro.

The weakness of the pound is linked closely to the bank rate, the UK's public finances and debt levels, which have been deteriorating rapidly as the country sinks into recession. The situation has prompted spec-ulation that now is the time for the UK to adopt the currency.

Last month, the European Commission President, Jose Manuel Barroso, said the UK was "closer than ever" to joining the euro and that the "people who matter" in British politics were contemplating giving up the pound.

Meanwhile, Lord Mandelson, the Business Secretary, said the government maintained the long-term policy objective of taking the UK into the euro, though he insisted: "It's not for now."





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  • Last Updated: 01 January 2009 10:32 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The Euro
 
1

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 02/01/2009 00:12:00
It has this great mystique.

But you can check it out at

The British Association for Monetary Reform
2

Darien,

Panama 02/01/2009 00:16:01
"Majority want to keep sterling"

Even as it becomes worthless. How insane people are. Global currency: bring it on.
3

Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 00:24:04
Darien,Panama 02/01/2009 00:16:01
"Majority want to keep sterling"

Even as it becomes worthless.
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Darien the pound is hardly worthless. In fact far from it. It has been widely predicted that it will rally back against the Euro from the second quarter of 2009 onwards.
4

Darien,

Panama 02/01/2009 00:32:48
#4 RTF: "it will rally back against the Euro"

Sorry RTF, can't quite see that happening. The £ will probably be history by 2010. Not to worry, the global currency is $, and has been so for several decades. Mr. Kerevan told us that Keynes advocated a global currency, so this must be correct, I expect, all things being equal, and in the long run we are all dead, like Keynes, as it were, so to speak.

Happy New Year, by the way.
5

Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 00:41:13
Happy New Year Darien.
6

Lurking from home,

02/01/2009 00:51:07
#4,

I hope you're right, Professor Adams-Wagstaff.

Flights booked for August.
7

Wardog™,

02/01/2009 00:55:18


"...Darien the pound is hardly worthless. In fact far from it. It has been widely predicted that it will rally back against the Euro from the second quarter of 2009 onwards....."

Head on Block
8

Guga II,

Rockall 02/01/2009 02:33:55
So what was the sample size for the poll, and where was it conducted?

I conducted a poll amongst my chooks, and they were 100% for the Euro.
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name and address supplied 02/01/2009 03:12:30
#10 Guga II,

It was a UK poll, conducted for a UK radio station.

The percentage of Scots sampled would be somewhere between 0% and 10%.

Either way it would be possible for the published result, to be a reasonably accurate reflection of "British"(wonder if they asked ant Taff's or Paddy's) public opinion...even if 100% of Scots were solidly in favour of any one of the two currencies, or completely indifferent to both.

Poor start to 2009 from THE SCOTSMAN.
10

Guga II,

Rockall 02/01/2009 03:20:43
#11.

Where did you read that it was a UK poll, as opposed to a south of England poll? Where did you read that 10%, or any % of their sample were Scots? What was their sample size?

Since when was the EBC anything other than the EBC?

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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 02/01/2009 03:26:16
The £ is a big trading currency. Alot of world commodies and oil go through the city of London. This quasi-independent enclave is no longer much a british thing.

So the £ could dissapear and the euro superceed it. Yet Brits so love nostalgia and corornation street that the forces of the status quo might preserve it (for our delusion) for quite a long time.

It's an article of faith that even Scots believe in. Do they believe in anything else? Only ignorance stops us from having our own useful currency.
12

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 02/01/2009 04:52:40
I wonder what the survey results would be if you did the same survey in Scotland?

The Scots have traditionally been less ambivalent about the EU and I imagine that would also carry over to ditching the pound.

After all most Scots don't even use the English Pound for day to day purchases.

They might be more inclined to ditch Notes issued by the almost bankrupt banks for one of the worlds leading currencies.
13

Mcsnagpile,

02/01/2009 05:29:14
What a load of claptrap. The pound already failed to enter the Euro Zone long time ago. To think of joining the Euro at present exchange rates is suicidal. The Euro could go down the tubes because of its ramrod controls, which could throw weaker European economies out of the Euro or default. As long as the government keeps an inflationary policy we will have a weak pound. In fact Zimbabwean policies will have the obvious results.
We will have to wait for sunny days,,,, before looking at the Euro again.
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 02/01/2009 05:50:09
In the good old days we got 240 pence to the pound, nowadays you only get 100. I would stick with the UK currency, with a bit of luck you may be able to get it up to 150 pence to the pound.
15

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 08:31:12
Browns actions over the last couple of years is to drag the three nations into Europe and the Euro. He has succeeded in making the pound as popular as diahrea with his attempts to render the Economy to the Bankrupt State it is now.

By supporting the UK joining the Euro, you will leave Scotland merely a Nothern Region of Britain, with no direct votes in the EU.

Scotland must hold on until Independence as a statement we do not recognise the Actions of Westmidden, and will join in our own right as a full member, on our own terms. We have the Seas and We have the Oil. The North Atlantic Oil Reserves are reputed to be bigger than Saudis entire reserves. Thats why Brown Government is negotiating with Ireland, Iceland and Denmark to divvie up the area around Rockall right now.

Be Patient and lets do it right. The Prize is beyond imagination for Scotland and Our People. Take my word for it.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 09:07:21
Its seems extremely ironic that so many Nats are so keen to abandon the pound purely because the see it as one of the main symbols of gastly English oppression. Mmms. Lets's see, let's ditch a currency because we are supposedly a minority people using a currency which value is set supposedly to benefit the economy of the bigger, politically dominant partner (England). And lets adopt a currency which value and subsequent interest rates are set to benefit another politically dominant partner (Germany)while at the same time having even less influence in a democracy free system. Great choice.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 09:10:23
#19 McGillicuddy

Huzzah. Yes, lets all go back to living in caves, covered in woad, as long as it gets us out of the Union. You get madder.
18

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 09:19:02
#24 MacGillicudy

It shouldn't take the GP long to access and address my 'self-loathing'. Like all the wackier Nats, your irrationality, bigotry, hopeless romanticism, detachment from reality and nausea-inducing sentimentality for a past that never was, would take a good shrink an age to treat.
19

English Bob,

England 02/01/2009 09:32:48
I'm getting the impression that Scots and English (in general) are in disagreement about this.

Is the truth that it's mainly the English that want to keep the pound?



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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 09:41:03
#26 English Bob

I'm afraid there are wackos on both sides of the border. Those up here (like MaCGillicudy) who'd join the Euro under any circumstances because it suits their anti-English agenda and those, mainly down south, who don't want the Euro because Her Maj wouldn't be on the notes any more. Most sensible people don't really give two hoots what the currency is. It could be coconut shells for all I care as long as it holds its value, buys what it needs to and is good for the national economy.
21

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 02/01/2009 09:44:19
#25 Wimp

I think the "nausea-inducing sentimentality" is what keeps some supporting the Union when it has been such an absolute failure for Scotland since the end of WWII.

Thankfully demographics is in the Nationalists favour, support for the Union will die along with "nausea-inducing sentimentality" of the old people who still cling to this relic of empire.
22

Edward,

02/01/2009 09:56:47
I would have liked to have seen other questions on this poll along he lines of 'are you planning to go to europe for your holiday? and 'do you expect fruit an veg in the shops to increase in cost?'
The fact is those in the UK, who want to holiday in the Costa's will find it more expensive, to the extent that they will feel like the poor of europe! As foe shopping for groceries, it will alos get more expensive in the coming months as the price of european sourced fruit and veg will be more expensive
23

The Tin Man,

02/01/2009 09:57:09
Seriously though, why would someone currently want to be paid 1.04 euros, instead of 1.00 pounds?
24

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 02/01/2009 09:58:11
Who care what people think. If Maggie Broon wants the UK to adopt the Euro - adopt it you will.

Don't you poor sod know that you have NO SAY in the matter. Maggie Broon know the only way he can have any chance of winning an election is to portray himself as the saviour of the UK Economy - regardless of him being the one who fecked it up in the first place.

It doesn't matter what the long-term effect are. If adopting the Euro will provide a short-term benefit over the period of the next election, you can bet we will be adopting the Euro.
25

English Bob,

England 02/01/2009 10:02:24
#28 It's not anti English to want to join the Euro as far as I'm concerned. Unless the English are forced to do so at the same time as Scotland against our will.

All the more reason to be going our own ways and sharpish.

Isn't it time the last vestiges of the British Empire were finally consigned to history? Home rule for us!

Then down the line perhaps a real council of the Isles, one where England sits at the table with Wales, Scotland and Ireland instead of the "UK".
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Gussie Fink-Nottle,

02/01/2009 10:07:34
If we wished to join the European single currency the level of our national budget deficit would mean we'd have to consider further devaluation of the pound. At least that's my understanding of the convergence criteria of the Maastricht Treaty...
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 02/01/2009 10:14:14
Keep the Pound but ditch Broon as he's the prime mover behind its demise.

If you reduce interest rates to close to zero it's hardly sending out "confidence" signals to purchasers of the pounds is it? Please - let's have some fiscal sanity back rather this this bunch of reckless fools.
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It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 02/01/2009 10:18:14
I for one will vote Libertas or UKIP in this year's EU election and I will never vote yes to the euro. When Spain adopted it prices there went up 30% in a year - ask any Spaniard.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 11:05:01
#29 MacGilliuddy

Yes, it is sensible to take a stance in the Euro debate that has the whiff of both buying a pig in a poke and cutting of our nose to spite our face. Even my fellow infants would like to make a decision based on economic benefit rather than silly nationalist symbolism.
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alanh,

ek 02/01/2009 11:14:09
the main problem with joining the euro, for me, is the killings that will be made by shopkeepers and for everything we pay for. Just like when we went decimal they would use the change to make things cost the equivalent of a few pence more as they did then. Altho all small amounts but they sure added up in the long run
31

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name and address supplied 02/01/2009 11:17:12
20 sm753, - "...Suggest you familiarise yourself with the concept of "economic recoverability"."

Time passes, oil becomes more scarce, price rises, technology improves what is "economically recoverable"...Are you too thick to join the dot's?

Furthermore:

Considering the Macaroni Report's chequered journey into the public domain, The nature of the "inelegance" that propelled us into the Iraq War and any number of "public" so called enquiries into just about anything.

In fact the very existence of a 30, let alone a 100 year rule.

Only an imbecile would rule out the likelihood of the "proven reserves" figures erring on the cautious side.

Also with the passage of time sub sea Oil detection methods will improve.

Nationalists were never fooled by Government predictions that the North Sea would be dry by the mid-eighties.

The rest of you should take note of the old adage about being fooled more than once...

And question WHY you choose to remain in a groundhog-day dupe-loop...It beats the s!t out of me.
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name and address supplied. 02/01/2009 11:34:41
#21 sm753 - ""Spot on as usual. And that prediction is made by people at the FT and Economist, who may just have a clue.""

If these guy's were any good at their job, they would have noticed that house prices in the USA have been in decline for the past TWO YEARS and taken heed of Galactic Cannibal's oft' repeated warnings...

...When the USA gets a cold - The rest of us had better stock up on cough medicine.

33

FTH22inarow,

02/01/2009 11:39:28
37 but its still much cheaper than the golden isle
34

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 11:40:32
I'm with #18 on this.

Lets get our Independence first. We have waited for
300+ years to get to where we are today - dont lets
throw away our hard won Independence by joining another
corrupt system.


http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/articles/scoteu.html

http://64.233.183.132/search?q=cache:lf_I40YcdxIJ:www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/articles/scoteu.html+Scotland+Against+being+Rules+by+Europe&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=uk

Apologies for long URLs don't know how to do Tiny's.
35

Liberal for life,

Dunblane 02/01/2009 11:47:03
This just shows what an ignorant lot we are when we can't even acknowledge true benefits even at a time of such obvious reality had we joined the Euro zone years ago we would now be in a far better position to weather this economic storm. Issues re excuses for price rises are a mere distraction that if properly regulated can be avoided - or those guilty will face prosecution - its that simple.

Business in general know this so its time the citizens of "little Britian" also woke up to the reality because the position of Sterling is so weak with an almost non-existent manufacturing base that too many of our SME base is under real threat unless some genuine stability returns very soon. One way of dealing with it that will have long term benfits for strategic planning is to join the eurozone, at last, so wake up and smell the coffee for goodness sake all ye laggards and blaggards!
36

Americanbob,

02/01/2009 11:48:42
"Majority want to keep Sterling" 'Course we do, if we didn't there would be a big hole in the middle of Scotland and where would we put the castle!!! HNY Y'all!
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Darien,

Panama 02/01/2009 11:48:53
#26 English Bob: "Is the truth that it's mainly the English that want to keep the pound?"

Definitely so! The British £ is also known as the English £. However there is no Scots £. Exchange your money overseas and in most countries they will use the term 'English £'. This is in part because Scotland is not a recognised country but that's another matter.

http://coinmill.com/GBP_calculator.html

So the English have more affinity with the £ than Scots, even moreso now that the so-called Scots (i.e. multinational, but Scots hq) banks are bust.

You will notice a striking coincidence of course that Scotland was driven into Union with England because of a bust bank, and now bust banks appear to be the undoing of the Union, a Union that most Scots never wanted in the first place. But fear not, I am confident England will get by without Scotland (and her oil), and wish you well.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 11:56:34
#45 Liberal

You're being disinegenuous. You should admit that, like most Liberal Democrats, you're enthusiasm for the Euro is politically motivated. One European superstate no matter the economic consequences for its constituent parts. The policies of the ECB are based on what suits the German economy which, luckily for it, is still very much based on manufacturing and exporting. Other countries, like Greece, Spain, Ireland are all suffering because the policies of the ECB don't suit their economic circumstances. We'd be in the same situation, either in the UK or out. We should take a good, long look before joining the Euro for whatever political reasons.
39

Ewan M,

02/01/2009 11:57:52
#18 a better way you are either Alex Salmond or have hit the whiskey way too hard at New Year!

Darien - you can micro analyse anything and find a problem with it, that is the nationalist way. If you are somehow trying to blame a currency for a lack of identity what do you propose, our own currency(insane), the Euro - hardly give us an identity, therefore what is your plan?
40

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 11:58:34
Norway outside the EU

http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/articles/norway.html
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lachlan,

02/01/2009 12:06:27
bring back the scottish pound, nay the groat.told you this u.k. single currency would not work.of for a walk now.just a few furlongs.
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Darien,

02/01/2009 12:16:36
#26 English Bob: An adendum: Scots have been in monetary union (i.e. using the English £) for the past 300 years, so are far less bothered by the Euro €.

One single currency is much the same as another; indeed today the English £ = Euro €, so is exactly the same.

The English think they are losing something with the £ going, but that may be all a little bit psychological. The global trading currency has been US$ for decades. And as Keynes suggested, via Mr, Kerevan, a global currency may be a good idea for economic stability.
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The Tin Man,

02/01/2009 12:22:50
#47 Darien

One thing we should definately get rid of is Scottish bank notes. Impossible to change them in some countries, and other places give a lower rate for Scottish notes, compared to English ones. Best to get them changed to English banknotes prior to travelling.

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Ewan M,

02/01/2009 12:25:33
Darien is it not the case you call it the English pound yourself therefore are spreading this misconception? It is the British pound and using some peoples ignornance to this fact is hardly justification for changing it. It would be like saying I can't name all 50 American states so they should all go independent and get there own currency, doesn't really make sense....but neither does the SNP!
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Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 12:35:04
Rufus

"In fact far from it. It has been widely predicted that it will rally back against the Euro from the second quarter of 2009 onwards."

Many anticipate around €1.20 by April. Expect it to rise after that.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 02/01/2009 12:39:03
I agree with Draco at 28, I don't care what the currency is called as long as it does it's job, let's use cocnut shells at least Gordon Brown wouldn't be able to print them like confetti.

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Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 12:40:15
56

Hello again.
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oder,

Scotland 02/01/2009 12:46:30
the real value of the pound is not what the British think! its what the rest of the world thinks! and its clear they dont what it! the pound like the union is a has been! best join the Euro before the pound drops to low! look forward!
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 12:48:24
#56 Observer

Now that I've gotten over the shock of us appearing to agree with each other, I'll wish you a Good New Year.
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English Bob,

England 02/01/2009 12:53:37
Darien me old chum. I'm sure England will get by just fine without Shetlands oil ;)

It's down to you guys though - England doesn't get a look in down here. The government is hell bent on balkanising England into EU shaped chunks ready for assimilation ready or not.
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name and address supplied 02/01/2009 13:05:18
38 Draco Was a Wimp

I wholeheartedly agree.

Euro = Pig in a poke

Pound = Pig in Poke + Silly Symbol of Nationalism

Dollar = Unconditional Surrender to Economic Imperialism

New World Currency Unit = The End of any kind of meaningfull National Sovereignty or Democratic control over anything

Coconut Shells(or simillar)?...Issued by Government(Scottish), valid only in Scotland at a value(relative to trading currencies) and in a quantity determined by Government of Scotland.

Sounds good to me...Since the Union we have traded internally with coupons that are not valid outwith Scotland...but their value and availability has been determined by forces and individuals we have little or no influence or control over.

Coconut shells = Sensible Symbol of Sovereignty
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Observer,,

Glasgow 02/01/2009 13:05:34
59 A Good New Year to you too Draco, and to Cynicus in Exile at 3 as well.
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

02/01/2009 13:21:13
Mob Rule !

how about a democratic referendum ?
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Publius,

Girvan 02/01/2009 13:33:22
The arguments for and against the Euro are much more finely balanced than some posters (especially Rufus) think.

If we already had the Euro, the government might have been constrained from the reckless public borrowing that has helped to generate the present crisis. It would certainly have had to give a more honest account of public debt (PFI, Network Rail, Northern Rock, public pensions liabilities are not counted as public debt.

The Eurozone keeps getting bigger. Slovakia joined yesterday. Denmark is edging towards the Euro. Even Iceland (not even in the EU) is thinking about it.

The City of London - the the UK's largest 'exporter' -doesn't require sterling for many activities. Many stocks and shares are traded in dollars - and a few in Euros now.

The pound may recover some value against the Euro later this year, but only because (1) the UK government won't be able to keep interest rates when it starts to borrow heavly because its credit won't be good; (2) the Euro Central Bank will probably reduce its interest rates making the Euro a less desirable currency for speculators.
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Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 13:35:23
1 GBP now = €1.04
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Coileach an taobh Tuath,

02/01/2009 14:02:49

66 Publius

Any thoughts on the German Chancellor's remarks some months ago that both the Uk and US were being reckless with the global financial markets?

PFI may yet truly come home to roost as one of the key drivers of the crisis in the UK, it's no coincidence that the backers of PFI projects have been the banks who reap the interest rates back from the big contractors but carry the indebtedness.

Boot Brown out
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Scythia,

Belgium 02/01/2009 14:15:16
A quick survey of my collegues suggest the Euro has been a disaster for them, and most would love to revert back to their original currency. Nice to see the British people are taking heed.
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Darien,

Panama 02/01/2009 14:51:18
#54 Ewan M: "you call it the English pound yourself therefore are spreading this misconception"

Hardly. I challenge you to go anywhere in the world and change foreign currency into GB£, and I bet you a US$ the person changing the money will call it 'English £'. Internationally, Britain is England and England is Britain and the English £ is no different. Remember, 90% plus of GB£ notes have the Bank of England on them, so you can't expect people in other countries to think anything other than the 'English £'. Even the Chinese word for Britain is 'England'. Ask anyone in the USA where Britain is and they'll tell you 'its in England'. Ask them where Scotland is and they'll also tell you its in England. Its all a Union Dividend the Scots-Britis Nationalists keep on reminding us about. You know, the story where we are all better off together, Dunkirk spirit an a that.

I agree entirely with you that the 'Union' does not make any sense any longer; it should be dissolved. Lets take back ownership of our Scottish State, that's what I say! Then folks overseas will recognise Scotland, they'll have to. At the moment they don't have to, because Scotland is not a recognised nation.

You are British (national) & Scottish (what exactly?)
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Darien,

Panama 02/01/2009 15:18:48
#61 English Bob: "England doesn't get a look in down here"

The British Nationalists Brown, Darling etc and their compatriots in New Labour (and the Tories) are destroying our individual nations in their quest for 'Britishness'. These people don't respect or acknowledge a 'Scotland' or an 'England'; their only focus is on one 'big' British State playing on the global stage. That focus depends on suppression of England and Scotland as individual countries because being 'British' means that Britain is the recognised nation, but the constituent parts are not recognised as such. Basically England and Scotland are 'non-countries'; they might as well not exist, because no other nation recognises them.
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Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 15:27:54
55 Hugh Roscombe,02/01/2009 12:35:04
Rufus

"In fact far from it. It has been widely predicted that it will rally back against the Euro from the second quarter of 2009 onwards."

Many anticipate around €1.20 by April. Expect it to rise after that.
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On Bloomberg today they were saying that Germany is widely tipped to come out of the Euro within 10 years and that Italy may well make moves to come out of it this year.

If Germany does pull out they reckon it would collapse.
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Darien,

Panama 02/01/2009 15:38:05
While folks are talking of currencies, we might all wish to be reminded of the 'top secret and for Gawd's sake don't tell the Scots' McCrone paper from 1974:

"An independent Scotland's budget surpluses as a result of the oil boom, wrote Professor McCrone, would be so large as to be "embarrassing".
Scotland's currency "would become the hardest in Europe, with the exception perhaps of the Norwegian Kronor." Scotland would be in a position to lend heavily to England and "this situation could last for a very long time into the future."
In short, the oil would put the British boot, after centuries of resentment, firmly on the foot standing north of the border.
Within days of its receipt at Westminster in 1974, Professor McCrone's document was judged as incendiary and classified as secret. It would be sat upon for the next thirty years."

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Warden An' All, Reborn,

02/01/2009 16:03:15
76-Ken_Fitlike-I’d hate to contradict you! No that’s not true I love this.
As there is a recession, Gordon Brown’s insistence on not supporting the pound will help Homecoming 2009.
So much for those nastyonallists who would have the vulnerable believe this Westminster government isn’t looking out for their welfare.
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Sanny,

02/01/2009 16:46:52
4 Rufus-T-Firefly,
Congratulations R T F.: At long last you have said something sensible that I can actually agree with. No doubt you will now return to the usual drivel of your interminable posts.

On this occasion I believe you assessment of the rise in Sterling is correct! Here in Portugal they are beginning to feel the effect of an overvalued Euro and I believe a similar situation applies across Europe. Here too the bank’s are dropping their interest rates and savings rates are now decidedly unattractive. Further, pensioners such as I who’s pension is quoted in Sterling are suffering a 30% decrease in its local value.

I believe the forecasts of an improvement in the second quarter is about correct.
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Eve,

Scotland 02/01/2009 17:04:10
I wasn't asked!

But personaly I don't care what the currency is just as long as we can still produce Scottish notes i.e. Bank of Scotland, Royal Bank of Scotland and Clydesdale bank.

It would plain backward to have our banks lose that right.

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Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 17:04:45
Rufus

Why are you faking Aberdeenshire Scot?
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Eve,

Scotland 02/01/2009 17:09:14
#11: Ah(,) the masses of number of people who repersented by 0% in polls and disscusions.
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Happy New year to everyone who was too busy having fun yeasterdat to read the Scotsman.
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Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 17:11:58
Hugh, do you really believe I am? I can swear on my mothers life I am not.

The moderator is welcome to investigate all my posts today. All my posts from Hogmanay and January 1st.

He will then see that the IP Address that these posts are coming from is not an IP address I have ever used.

Interestingly I put the 'fake' Aberdeenshire Scot into a word document and tabbed along as you suggested yesterday, and there are no hidden spaces.

So what does that suggest? He is faking himself?

It would not suprise me.
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Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 17:15:33
91 Rufus

Apols Rufus. I've done a cyber-check. It's Sam the Bam from the Herald. Same posts. Same drivel.

I'll check the Aberdeenshire posts before they're all deleted.
74

Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 17:22:33
Okay Hugh, please do.
75

Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 17:24:45
Hugh who is this Sam the Bam guy?

Its certainly not me. I have never posted on the herald in my life.

76

Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 17:28:56
93

I'm stumped!
77

Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 17:32:36
Sam ain't you Rufus. He had umpteen monikers.
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02/01/2009 17:41:36
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Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 17:44:42
97 Union is ­Best,02/01/2009 17:41:36
94. Rufus

odd that you psoted the other day that you were not foing the fakes as were on the herald
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WHAT?

Where did I say this.

Provide the link please?

You just make things up as you go along.
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Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 17:46:50
Once again I re-iterate to you Union is Best.

I have never posted on the herald in my life.
81

Rufus-T-Firefly,

02/01/2009 17:47:37
Hugh did you check the fake moniker for hidden spaces?
82

Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 18:29:08
Rufus

Union is Best at 102 is a fake. (Space between is and best)

Weirder by the minute. Somebody doesn't like Union is Best and a few others. Because he is unable(being mentally challenged) to get the better of these posters, he fakes them and posts bilge.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 02/01/2009 18:36:00
The fake Union is best is also posting on other threads. He really is a loser. What I have noticed about the demented fake is he doesn't actually seem to know anything about, or show any interest in politics. Very weird.
84

Hugh Roscombe,

02/01/2009 19:00:21
Too much idiocy. Bye.
85

Liberal for life,

Dunblane 02/01/2009 19:00:44
#48 - who do you think you are calling mke disengenuos?

This is an economic argument the reasons for which were perfectly clear to Liberals and LibDems way back at the time DeGaulle prevented us joining the common market in the '50's. At that time small minded Tory and Socialist politicians of the time decided to play their anti-European cards that they even to this day they still use as they recognise it still wins votes amongst the small minded majority - and people like you are testament to that fact.

At a time when paper money has now a limited use (as plastic cards take over when making purchases) it should be even more apparent to people with any real common sense that exchange rate conversions and the transactions costs associated are a "waste of money", so get real.
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02/01/2009 19:14:22
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Eve,

Scotland 02/01/2009 20:42:15
Is it just me or do some of the artcles on this new paper disappear.

I can't find the fist story I commented on the day or the first story I comment on yeasterday.

Freaky stuff going on here.
88

Faux Cul,

02/01/2009 22:25:17
4
Rufus-T-Firefly,
02/01/2009 00:24:04

Meanwhile in the real World A Darling's prediction of a contraction of 0.75 to 1.5% and a return to growth in mid late 2009 is being rubbished by independent economists.

The consensus seems to be a 2.5% contraction and a return to growth godknowswhen!

The ON Stats have now admitted that the economy shark by 0.6% and not the 0.5% as stated by The Treasury.

This recession has a long way to go and to depths as yet uncharted.

Standby for more leaks from the Government during the holidays (ie quiet news season) .

We are all doooooooooommmmmmmmmmeeeeed I tell ye!
89

yoric,

02/01/2009 22:26:14
If Scotland adopts the Euro it will finally have a currency that is recognised outside of Scotland.

I would have thought that the time to join the Euro was when there was 1 Euro 50 to the Pound, not at 1 to the Pound as now.
90

Eve,

Scotland 03/01/2009 22:49:15
Anyone know what the exchange rate is the day or should I really say the night?

 

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