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Published Date: 23 May 2009
MPS have over the past few weeks been accused of living the high life through lavish expenses.
However, yesterday it seemed that they had been reduced to rags as David Mundell, the shadow secretary of state for Scotland, was seen sporting a pair of ripped trousers.

The MP for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale, who, unlike quite a number of his fellow politicians, has mostly escaped criticism for his expense claims, joked about the state of his Baulmers suit.

"In the good old days I could have bought a sewing machine on expenses to get them mended," Mr Mundell said. "Now I will just have to pay for a tailor myself."

He was at a photocall outside the Scottish Parliament with Annabel Goldie, the Conservative Party leader north of the Border, and his fellow shadow cabinet member Theresa May to promote the campaign for an early election.

The three were promoting a UK-wide campaign launched by party leader David Cameron, who has argued that the Labour government is "paralysed" and the expenses scandal means voters have lost confidence in the MPs currently sitting in the Commons.

Mrs May, the shadow work and pensions secretary, who was described as one of the few saints in the expenses scandal, said the public needed a new parliament.

"We allowed attitude to build up around the rules. We must all take some responsibility, but I think the public want to have their voice heard, and also I don't think it's good enough simply to have a new set of rules and a new Speaker: we need a new parliament."

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22/05/2009 23:04:41
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Observer,,

Glasgow 23/05/2009 00:28:07
Why don't journalists ever explain the truth ? There is a culture at Westminster which believes that MP's are not paid their worth, and that is why claiming allowances/expenses is encouraged to ''top up'' to the level of salary most of them think they are worth. That is a salient point in the examination of all this - but it seems to be being buried by all.

I am certainly not excusing MP's here - my view is that they should live on the average wage quite frankly, I don't want privileged rich people telling me what to do - but it is relevant to the debate. And it isn't getting printed.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 23/05/2009 00:31:09
He's hardly the ragged trousered philanthropist is he ? He's just got a split in his trews. He should have nipped into the bog and stuck it together on the inside with sellotape or stapled it. That's what a woman would do.
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23/05/2009 00:36:45
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/05/2009 00:42:05


For £2.49 David Mundell could of got some of that Magic Tape, that you just iron on, and 'Hey-Presto' Problem Solved, mind you he would need an Iron!
Quite an 'Irony'!, poor chap!
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Observer,,

Glasgow 23/05/2009 00:58:15
8 that's where the sellotape comes in dear. Mundell is clearly not used to wardrobe emergencies and how to cope with them.

7 Correct. A great book ''The triumph of the political class'' by Peter Oborne spells it all out. There is also an interview with him on U tube. We are talking about people trained up for the Westminster career and who assume that they will be richly rewarded and not accountable to us proles. Wrong.

The older MP's are the best always in my view.
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Jimbo2,

23/05/2009 01:49:08
He's in the top 2% of expenses claimants.

The Telegraph can't have got round to him yet.

David Mundell
Constituency: Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale
Party: Conservative
Majority: 1738
Total expenses 2005-8: £478,944
Rank: 12 out of 646

2007/8
Total: £169,187
Second home: £22,177
London supplement: £0
Office expenses: £28,618
Staff: £78,977
Others: £39,415

Previous years
2005-06: £143,159
2006-07: £166,598
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English Voice,

23/05/2009 01:51:09
Darn, an honest MP is just to set up a fictional office, ala the Labour MP for Glasgow East, claim £260,000 for the non-existant office, and quote Michael Martin "we in new Labour didnt come into politics not to get what is due to us"!

Meanwhile, we in New Labour are closing 32 schools in Glasgow, supporting £1 billion in cuts in Scotland, and all against SNP cuts!

New Labour - Cleaning Moats and Insulting Intelligence Since 1997
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 23/05/2009 02:21:32
The unionists attempts to save themselves by trying to involve the SNP in the Westmidden stories get more desperate by the day"

Bring on the Glasgow North By election where I hope the SNP slogan will be

"Westmidden or an honest, progressive Scotland!"

I am fed up (to quote Jim Sillars) living like a second class citizen in my own country!
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 23/05/2009 02:23:58
To deal with the Headline. If you can find one in the Unionist parties ask them?
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/05/2009 02:28:46

For £20.00 David Mundell, could of had a very nice pair of trousers, out of Matalan, it is a shame for some people this is beneath them!
Your Charles has no problems however, Matalan, Asda, if the price is right, my clothing is right, for any occasions, non the need to pretend to be poor, as maybe David Mundell was!

:)

Next it will be,..."Any-Spare-Change-Mr?"

:))

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/05/2009 02:38:43


"Any-Spare-Change-Mr?"

Used to be a Shandwick Place Edinburgh, every night, I lived in the area, while walking my dog, he never got the message NO!

Later he appeared here in the Scotsman News, He had a very nice house, in our terms today it was worth £220k!

There is a lot to say when some make a claim, hidden elements do not show face, and are taken over by the show.


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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/05/2009 02:40:26
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"Any-Spare-Change-Mr?"

Used to be *in* Shandwick Place Edinburgh, every night, I lived in the area, while walking my dog, he never got the message NO!

Later he appeared here in the Scotsman News, He had a very nice house, in our terms today it was worth £220k!

There is a lot to say when some make a claim, hidden elements do not show face, and are taken over by the show.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/05/2009 06:52:04
Pleading Poverty....Ha Ha Ha.

Maybe he should ask Jack McConnell for loan of a Kilt. I hear he has a pin stripped one he's only worn once.
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23/05/2009 07:19:18
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

23/05/2009 08:41:29
#1/2&10

Surely you jest?

The Hootsmon would never resort to printing Misleading Headlines, to serve the warped anti-Scottish world view that they appear to hold.

Would they?

No...Of course they wouldn't, any more than they would ban Posters for complaining about it.

That just wouldn't be "British"!

P.P. CB IV*

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cabrach loon,

inverness 23/05/2009 08:55:47
Just wait until after the election and see the gold plated compensation given out to those who lose out and have to stand down. There should never be compensation for elected representatives it is an honour to serve not a means of feathering the nest and networking for directorships after based not on what you know but who you know / now is that squeaky clean or tainted / maybe a bit of each? But compensation - NO, that is the risk they take. Likewise public sector pensions MUST be brought in line with the private who, thanks to the brown streak are now struggling to get anything! Public service is not a sinecure though quangos and much of parliament are appearing to be as has been proven re social services too! Sad days, sad country.
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Astonished,

23/05/2009 09:09:07
col blimp et al : What was the original headline ?




Thanks and I'll be back later.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/05/2009 09:15:18
Sign of the Times,

David Mundell, standing in his scuffed shoes and worn out trousers, hold a cardboard sign that say's "Will Legislate For Change".
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Eustace,

/ 23/05/2009 09:16:28


Regular Tax Audit going back 7 years whilst bullied to death by local Public Services then he'll have something to complain about.
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Eustace,

/ 23/05/2009 09:19:55



Not to MP - remember will be referred to MSP
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brownlie,

23/05/2009 09:34:15
23 The Col. of Monte Cristo

Why the change of moniker? Don't tell me you've been black-listed?
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JayJay,

Right here 23/05/2009 09:34:25
Cameron's risible and opportunistic demand for an election would have a great deal more resonance if he fired and triggered bye-elections in every constituency where his troughing colleagues had been dredging their moats, topping their trees or forming their duck islands. He could further insist that his shamed colleagues pay back every red cent pockled from the taxpayer and assured the electorate that none of these shifty clowns would be rewarded with a generous parliamentary pension or a comfy seat in the Lords.
That's the sort of character and integrity that might persuade me he was the real deal rather than an Eton educated toff trying hard to pretend he can catch the mood of the nation.
And the good news Comedy Dave is that, when you are winning every one of the 100 plus bye elections, you can easily point to Brown and say "I dare you".
However, to do so, Dave would have to find some real spine and that, for this strange bunch of careerist politicians, is something that is removed when they leave Oxford and Cambridge.
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Masterpiece,

23/05/2009 09:59:37
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It is all very well for the Scots to show their disdain at what is happening at Westminster but they are also part of the whole system and once this blows over after the next General Election we will all be back to the old comfy-cosy once again.

We are all part of the same system plus Scotland has the Colonialist mentality of needing to be part of the English language system. As long as this continues the apron strings will never be cut. Just look at English Ireland.
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im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 23/05/2009 10:05:42
he is trying to appear so poor,that bob geldof will do a gig to raise cash ,for this skint MP
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

23/05/2009 10:22:41
#25
Astonished

"Tories Stand Shoulder to Shoulder with SNP...".

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redcliffe62,

23/05/2009 10:22:51
jay jay is right. no tory pollie is going to burn his bridges totally though and too many greasy poles have been climbed to sack all those people who have been a disgrace. if he called for 50 by elections and said no to future payouts and a seat in the lords for the troughers he would walk england in the next election.
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

23/05/2009 10:30:32
#29 brownlie

They even backdated the blacklist to re-capture poor old Col Blimp III, they claimed his papers were forged.
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The west awake,

Argyll 23/05/2009 10:42:47
Observer 3 - I agree with you. I am shocked by the apparent universal agreement that MPs need to be paid shedloads of money, one reason being that they could get more money in other jobs and another that unless they get loadsamoney this will prevent working class people from becoming MPs.
Really?
I thought people wanted to get into politics to change things for the better, to promote their vision for the common good and generally help people. Shouldn't politics be attracting people IN SPITE of the money rather than BECAUSE of it?
John MacLean took up politics with no thought of money at all and died in poverty, even if you don't agree with what he was promoting his kind of politician is what we need, not these people who talk about a £63,000pa plus expenses salary as if it some kind of pittance.
Most people in this country would give their eye teeth to be earning what they are currently getting, even excluding what they rip off on top.
If they want to earn city salaries, let them go into the city.
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GONNYNODEATHAT,

GLASGOW 23/05/2009 10:59:53
However, I DO agree without a doubt there should be a Gerneral elacion. Let the people decide if they WANT the Thief of Bagdad. Politics can only be a complete farse to go on without an Election NOW. We are the laughing stock of the World. In FACT we are the Laughing stock of the World in many, many areas of our Society. NO POLITICAL PARTY WILL EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN. Thank goodness !!
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GONNYNODEATHAT,

GLASGOW 23/05/2009 11:04:14
I am NOT a Tory but there is a Worse Party than the Tories towards the Working Man/Woman ~ Its the Anti - Working Man/Woman party, thats named NULABOURLIE
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GONNYNODEATHAT,

23/05/2009 11:07:58
This is a FACT. ~ The NULABOURLIE have done things Margaret Thatcher would never have dreamed off.
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brownlie,

23/05/2009 11:35:05
35 Col. of Monte Cristo

Initially I thought you might have been posting from your all-expenses-paid tax-haven "second home" in the sun.
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Chuck.U.Farley,

23/05/2009 11:37:05
Honest MP,an oxymoron surely?
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Jimmy Le Pie,

23/05/2009 11:39:30
Jay Jay,

Even if a party leader withdraws the whip and 'sacks' an MP it doesn't cause a by-election.

Remember that fat greedy Tory who was kicked out for 'paying' his sons to do nothing, Derek Conway??

He sitting as an independent.

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shawfield,

23/05/2009 12:12:26
Think there's seaguls following your trawler Mr Wick
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Electric Hermit,

23/05/2009 12:26:51
44
Joe

"Remember when they prolonged the Thatcher agony
years when they voted with them.?"

No. Tell us all about it.

"Since then Salmond has openly admired Thatcher."

Really? What exactly did he say?
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ecosseman,

FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA 23/05/2009 12:30:30
WE HAVE A NEW PARLIAMENT ITS CALLED HOLYROOD.
WE DONT NEED ANY OTHER.

GOD BLESS ALEX SALMOND.

ROLL ON THE ELECTION!
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 23/05/2009 12:33:51
#44, Joe.

You're the sort of person who would sell his granny for personal gain, aren't you?

Let's remember 1979, shall we?

1. LP brings forward a Refendum on Scottish Devolution. Said Referendum rusults in a YES vote; unfortunately, the Referendum had been gerrymandered by Labour - the DEAD were allowed to vote, as were the missing AND those not even bothering to vote were counted as NO voters.

2. The SNP supported the Minority Labour Government until it Goverment reneged on implementing Scottish Devolution, disregarding the will of the people of Scotland.

3. The SNP MPs took a principled stand, on the Tory vote of NO-confidence, against a totally unprincipled Labour Government.

None of your lies and smears can change the truth of the above statements.

The Truth will always win out, but sometimes it takes a while.
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 23/05/2009 12:50:21
frank mcbride,lusitania 23/05/2009 12:33:51

very well put!

#44, Joe,Relugas Road. 23/05/2009 12:15:16
is indeed a stranger to the truth and a lying labour scumbag.
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WL,

Livingston 23/05/2009 12:52:15
David Mundell still does not understand what it is all about!!!!!!!!!!
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

23/05/2009 12:52:41
Kick out the greedy and the fraudulent now and we'll have a spate of by-elections where the public can be heard. Why should we have another year of these thieves picking our pockets.

After that the police should do their job, and where there are convictions, their rather generous Commons pensions should be withdrawn.

I'm tired of "it was within the rules" and I'm sick of "They'll stand down at the election". No ordinary voter would be permitted to stay in a job where they'd stolen money and MP's should be subject to the same justice.
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

23/05/2009 12:59:56
30 JayJay: "

Cameron's risible and opportunistic demand for an election would have a great deal more resonance if he fired and triggered bye-elections in every constituency where his troughing colleagues had been dredging their moats, topping their trees or forming their duck islands. He could further insist that his shamed colleagues pay back every red cent pockled from the taxpayer and assured the electorate that none of these shifty clowns would be rewarded with a generous parliamentary pension or a comfy seat in the Lords."

Never a truer word spoken. During the Osborne yacht scandal I thought Cameron should have fired him and shown that he really was the man to clean up sleaze. Osborne would have anyway been rehabilitated by the next election.

Cameron needs to show he's firm on this and kick people out of Parliament now. As you point out, he;d expose Brown's dithering and cowardice on the issue.
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Leither,

Melbourne 23/05/2009 13:18:06
Thousand of British subjects living in Canada, Australia , New Zealand and South Africa are denied an indexed pension while these so called gentlemen live it up, nice to know where the gravy train starts.
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JayJay,

Right here 23/05/2009 13:33:12
#42
Jimmy, I know and more is the pity.
My belief is that the "new politics" that all these hand wringing (and caught), tear shedding frauds should, as a non negotiable, include the absolute condition that, should you be caught troughing, or lying, or b0nking, or taking cash for questions, or whatever you care to chose from the myriad of ropey behaviours exhibited by our "honourable" members, then you are oot. No grovelling apologies. No "unintentional wrongdoing" excuses. Just oot and no pension.
Simple. Oh and as for second jobs - eh no. And entering politics with no real world experience - absolutely not.
What we have just now is the sort of stuff I see from my children when they are doing something they shouldn't....their sorries are more inspired by the row they are receiving rather than genuine regret. In truth, we've (and all of the press) all known about this since way before Conway. I just don't think people can quite believe how brazen they have been.
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Iainbroch,

23/05/2009 14:12:10
Honest and Unionist - is that not Oxymoronic Maddox?
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Iainbroch,

23/05/2009 14:14:52
I believe the last honest Unionist was Alick Buchanan Smith and his honesty cost him his political career!
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Astonished,

23/05/2009 14:20:32
Col of monte cristo - Thanks for the headline.


Shameless, anti- SNP mince worthy of stan butler(alex the labour dalek) or the BBC. maddox is just another labour 'churnalist'.

Embarrassing that a comic/ex-newspaper has fallen to this.
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Iainbroch,

23/05/2009 15:02:44
I guess there will be a lot of less than honourable members retiring prematurely, resigning for health or family reasons, or MPs retiring to pursue other intersts or take up other positions!
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Marga,

Edinburgh 23/05/2009 15:35:34
Geoffrey Wheatcroft in today's Guardian:

There is a connection between the torrent of money for second (or third) homes and all the other allowances and the fact that parliament has never been more inert in relation to the executive. Without consciously realising it at first, MPs have been bought off, and become ciphers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/23/geoffrey-wheatcroft-parliament-mps-expenses
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Electric Hermit,

23/05/2009 16:57:39
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Marga

An excellent article by Geoffrey Wheatcroft which highlights the fact that Westminster's problems run a great deal deeper than some relatively petty expenses fiddling. And far beyond anything that will be rectified simply by holding a general election.
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23/05/2009 17:32:14
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Findlay Thompson,

23/05/2009 18:36:32
Posters,

If you want to find out what your MP has spent in expenses go to http://findyourmp.parliament.uk/

Then e-mail he or she requesting their expenses for the last four years under the Freedom of Information Act. I’m sure you may be quite surprised at their response.

Isn’t it great living in the Mother of all democracies?
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mr broon,

Edinburgh 23/05/2009 20:21:45
It can be no coincidence that Scotsman hacks and photographers are trailing Scots Tory MP David Mundell around his constituency in an attempt to scapegoat him?

Just wait until its the turn of this Scots Tory to have his expenses revealed by the Telegraph.

It appears the only Tory MP in Scotland is desperately attempting to pre-empt damaging news?

Buddy, lend me a journalist!
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 23/05/2009 20:23:16
One of our Late Night talk show hosts started his monologue by asking "Did you know that an honest politician in Britain today is a Tourist attraction?". Another started "In Britain the Parliament picked a Speaker of the House then fired him for not Speaking out enough and when he does Speak it's like listening to bagpipes..funny country". Comedians here are having a jokefest!
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Warden Resurrected,

Telegraph Sleaze 23/05/2009 21:19:22
Imagine the Telegraph had any honesty. An honest newspaper would have disclosed everything at one go. All of those members of parliament doing wrong would be sorted by now. The Telegraph are making a mug out of the people with their manipulations.
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Electric Hermit,

23/05/2009 21:43:06
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Warden Resurrected

"The Telegraph are making a mug out of the people with their manipulations."

Well said! The media circus is getting beyond a joke.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 23/05/2009 22:50:54
#67, Electric Hermit.

Westminster was a media circus, and well beyond a joke long, before The Telegraph added the front page.
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Electric Hermit,

23/05/2009 23:43:16
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frank mcbride

"Westminster was a media circus, and well beyond a joke long, before The Telegraph added the front page."

Yeah! Yeah! This week it's MPs. Last week it was bankers. The week before that... who the hell can remember. Must be about time for single mothers to have another turn in the pillory. The Angry Villagers always need a hate-group. And the media is always ready to nominate one for them.

Warden Resurrected has a very good point. The whole thing is being orchestrated. And you are being manipulated.
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

24/05/2009 00:05:51
"The Telegraph are making a mug out of the people with their manipulations."

Of course they are chaps...they are making mugs out of the pig-men of Westmidden, with their Duck Islands and £250 alarm clocks, their non-existent mortgages, CGT and Council Tax evasion and other "flipping" scams.

You have variously tried to undermine the relevance Telegraphs exposure of this abuse of public trust, that parliament was trying to suppress by:

Calling the motives of their source into question, saying that they were targeting Labour and going to let the Tories off the hook, claiming that no rules have been broken and now a risible conspiracy theory.

One would be forgiven for thinking that you or your employers...had something to hide.

Move along now folks...nothing to see here - ma 'rse.
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Warden Resurrected,

24/05/2009 00:08:01
68-The Telegraph the champion of the working man and woman or one which would restrict the democratic process for the working man and woman.
I don't know about you I usually see the Telegraph as a middle class newspaper working for the middle class voter. Why are they suddenly interested in what the little man and woman have to say.
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urchin,

24/05/2009 00:14:37
There was a report the other day that the corruption scandal was effecting the moral of the parliamentarians,so much so that there is concern about their well being.

If those with concerned about their public image and standing there is an example of what a honorable person should do,South Korea Mr Roh.
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Warden Resurrected,

24/05/2009 00:16:21
70- rubbish and you know it. The Telegraph in the public interest allowed those you are talking about to get away with it in some cases for days, allowing the tories a chance to look sharp in the face of adversity and advising the tory party about what they were printing.
An honest paper would print the whole lot in the public interest at once.
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Electric Hermit,

24/05/2009 00:20:34
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The Col. of Monte Cristo

That there is truth in The Telegraph's revelations does not mean that the manner in which the information is being presented isn't designed to serve some ulterior purpose. It's all about power. Right now, The Telegraph and the rest of the media has power. And when was such power ever ultimately used for the benefit of "ordinary people"?
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Warden Resurrected,

24/05/2009 00:24:20
72-You're a smart cookie, there are over six hundred members of parliament, right. Look at each of them and write down the list which is easier the dishonest or the honestand say what they are.
Public perception sometimes stinks.
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urchin,

24/05/2009 02:07:35
75,In truth the comment was not serious in its intent.Was just looking for a reaction.

But off the top of my head James Purnell the beneficiaries basher.He claimed 20 thousand quid for his second home,then sold his flat saying that that was his main home to avoid the tax.

The list is endless when it comes to this form of trough gorging of the public purse by our elected representatives,and the public has every right to be pissed off.The problem is that the rule makers will only tamper with the structure that allows these overpaid public servants to rip off the public purse.
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Electric Hermit,

24/05/2009 02:31:11
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urchin

"...the public has every right to be pissed off."

Pissed off is fine. Angry is fine. It is the hysterical over-reaction that is dangerous. It is a few individuals who are guilty. But this is being used to discredit the entire democratic system.
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urchin,

24/05/2009 05:03:21
77-Come on its more than a few,and its been going on for decades and if to be tallied the amounts would be eye watering.

Talk democracy to some poor sod in the east of Glasgow on a benefit a single parent or a pensioner for that matter.Its seems to be a democracy for the benefit of those who we elect,to be altered at their behest for their gain.
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Electric Hermit,

24/05/2009 09:31:16
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urchin

"Come on its more than a few..."

Even if it was every MP in the current parliament it would not justify the demise of parliamentary democracy. The system is flawed. As are all things contrived by mere human beings. So let's fix it! And let's not throw baby and tub out with the bathwater.
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urchin,

24/05/2009 11:45:13
78 Im not suggesting the demise of the present system.What i am suggesting is a more transparent and accountable one, where there are penalties, for those in authority, who abuse their position for personal gain.Just as it is for the voting public who if caught with their hands in their employers till or abuse the welfare system are called to account and prosecuted.
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Electric Hermit,

24/05/2009 12:09:54
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urchin

"What i am suggesting is a more transparent and accountable one, where there are penalties, for those in authority, who abuse their position for personal gain."

Nothing wrong with that. But if you are genuinely interested in making practical improvements then it is essential to start with a clear understanding of the issue being addressed. All the hysterical ranting from various quarters about MPs and HMRC "colluding" to defraud the system of "bi££ions" is a massive distortion. While the even more hysterical ranting about hanging MPs from lamp-posts is an irresponsible diversion.

Let's remember that those who contrive such distortions and orchestrate the hysteria do so for their own ulterior motives. Motives which have nothing whatever to do with reforming democratic institutions to the benefit of "ordinary people".
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urchin,

24/05/2009 12:53:28
81-Your always going to get the conspiracy types, and the pitchfork and torch brigade.Who is going to be making the new rules for parliamentarians expenses them,or some friendly note worthy people.

I heard an interview on radio last month by a young conservative,i cant recall her name she used to work in the music industry,however what she was saying was that she admired Margret Thatcher and that when her party gains power she would like to see her work carried on.And she was just like Thatcher forthright and talking about the usual, lack of strong leadership, and how the country and this present government had led the country into this present financial downturn.

What im getting at is that she did not sound like she was open to a more fairer society for the less fortunate and needy.So if this is where our democracy is going to lead us back to the division of the Thatcher years, then some major amendments have to be introduced for a more inclusive democratic structure.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 24/05/2009 13:31:08
#73 Warden,

"An honest paper would print the whole lot in the public interest at once."

An honest paper? Does such a creature actually exist in the UK? If you find one that does not slant its reporting to favour one political view over another, please tell me, I would love to buy it.

You also seem to forget that all papers are a first and foremost a business, they will naturally do whatever is necessary to increase circulation. I am surprised that they aren't just doing one MP a day to drag this out as long as possible.

I am sure that the MPs would prefer to have this all over at once, preferably while they are all on summer recess.

Personally I like a good circus, and this would not be such a great circus if they all hadn't acted like clowns.
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Electric Hermit,

24/05/2009 19:31:32
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urchin

"So if this is where our democracy is going to lead us back to the division of the Thatcher years, then some major amendments have to be introduced for a more inclusive democratic structure."

Well said! It is those who would drag us back to those dark times, or worse, who are using the expenses issue to undermine parliamentary democracy.
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urchin,

24/05/2009 21:55:30
84-Untill we have a inclusive parliamentary structure and not a exclusive one, you are always going to get division of radicalism.

 

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