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Published Date: 26 April 2009
A CONTROVERSIAL American televangelist who claims he can "cure" cancer is bringing his spiritual roadshow to Scotland, sparking a wave of anger.
Fundamentalist preacher Richard Roberts is due to host a healing session in Glasgow where he will tell the seriously ill to "expect miracles". People will also be asked for "offerings".

One of the country's most respected cancer specialists has denounced the claims as "cruel and damaging" and has questioned whether the event should go ahead.

Glasgow City Council has stated that Roberts could face prosecution if he makes unsubstantiated claims over his alleged medical powers.

A spokesman for the Bible Belt cleric insists he has already "healed" as many as 100,000 cancer sufferers around the globe and can offer hope to chronically ill Scots.

But Roberts was forced to quit his lucrative post as president of an American college amid claims he abused his position and embarked on "Imelda Marcos-style" spending sprees with the institution's funds.

The board of Oral Roberts University in Oklahoma passed a vote of no confidence in him after it was alleged he used college money to buy a fleet of expensive cars, keep horses, convert a study into a wardrobe for his wife's designer clothes, employed academics to do his children's homework and used the university jet to fly his daughter to the Caribbean.

Roberts will visit Glasgow's Destiny Church, an independent evangelical organisation, on May 6, and pledges that, through "the holy spirit", he will cure the sick.

A promotional leaflet states: "Bring your family and invite your friends and witness healing miracles from the Lord. Come expecting your miracle".

The event is free, but people will be invited to make financial "offerings" afterwards.

Professor Jim Cassidy, head of Glasgow University's Centre for Oncology, believed the event would give false hope to the most vulnerable.

He said: "Undoubtedly there will be lots of people who wish to take up this offer. People do clutch at straws, but this is likely to be quite damaging to them.

"It would be interesting to challenge the legality of these claims."

The cancer specialist was concerned by the idea of people feeling obliged to pay money to receive "healing".

"The idea that this individual can cure your cancer is quite cruel. I'd be keen to find out if there was way of stopping such a thing."

Glasgow City Council's Trading Standards Unit confirmed it was monitoring the situation. A spokesman said: "If Mr Roberts, or anyone else, advertises or promises a cure for cancer then he is likely to be in breach of consumer protection regulations.

"Anyone advertising a product, which includes a service, must be able to deliver."

Terry Sanderson of the National Secular Society has attended similar gatheringsand described them as "dangerous and exploitative".

"I attended a meeting at Wembley held by an another American televangelist called Morris Cerullo.

"They didn't charge you anything to get in, but before long around came the little envelopes where you could provide your credit card details. There is a real danger that vulnerable people can end up parting with sizeable sums of money through sheer desperation."

Cerullo later caused controversy after a women he had pronounced "cured" of epilepsy stopped taking her medication and drowned in bath following a seizure.

Sanderson said: "Telling people they are cured when they are not is downright dangerous as well as being exploitative.

"We shall be keeping a very close eye on Mr Roberts during his time in the UK and challenging each and every unsubstantiated claim he makes."

Cancer Research's chief clinician Professor Peter Johnson said: "We would urge any cancer patient to continue with the scientifically proven medical treatments prescribed by their cancer specialist"

A UK spokesman for Richard Roberts said: "I have been at services where the crippled have walked, the blind have seen and the deaf have heard.

"But there is no guarantee that everyone who attends will be cured, it just depends on that night."

He added: "Richard Roberts has a healing programme in Tulsa and probably over 100,000 people have been healed of cancer over 15 years.

"These are documented cases and our advice to sceptics is to come along and see."

The Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association, an international organisation of which Roberts is head, has an estimated annual turnover of more than $14m (£9.5m).

Much of the money is raised through appeals on numerous TV networks.

A spokeswoman for Destiny Church in Glasgow said they had total faith in Roberts as a man of probity and proven healing ability. She said: "Richard Roberts is not some wacky kind of preacher. I know when you watch some stuff on TV it can be a bit wacky but he is really sound.

"People who are seriously ill and are suffering from cancer should definitely come along."

How Roberts was driven out of his own college

ROBERTS is the son of Pentecostal preacher Oral Roberts, who founded the college that bears his name after claiming to have seen a vision of a "900ft Jesus" near Tulsa. He became the university's president in 1993.

In 2007 a number of senior academics resigned, accusing the president of lavish spending and "cooking the books" to conceal improper outgoings at a time when it was $50m in debt.

They claimed Roberts spent university funds on sports cars and redecorating his lavish campus quarters 11 times in 14 years, and deployed the university jet to take his daughter on holiday.

It was also alleged that Roberts' wife Lindsay awarded 13 scholarships to friends.

The embattled college head strongly maintained his innocence, and still does, but resigned in tears in front of TV cameras claiming God had told him to step down. A number of lawsuits taken against Roberts were settled out of court.




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  • Last Updated: 25 April 2009 7:34 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
 
1

Fifi la Bonbon,

26/04/2009 00:16:37
Ah HAYVUV seen the Laht!!!
2

GW,

Aberdeenshire 26/04/2009 00:21:33
Over 20 years ago I was told by my physiotherapist that my football days were over after a very bad injury left me unable to bend my right leg properly or to run without a limp. Fortunately I attended a healing service a few months later and normal movement returned that day - I have had no trouble with my right leg ever since, and continue to enjoy playing.

Miracles do happen!
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/04/2009 00:27:45

Better not 'sneer' at Richard Roberts!, we all may need him, when the 'swine flu' strikes us all!

4

Douglas,

Bathgate 26/04/2009 00:51:49
Atishoo....of lies.

People will also be asked for "offerings". They may also be asked to receive.
5

brian mcc,

7th Heaven 26/04/2009 01:08:40
Who would dare dispute the offspring of a preacher whom had a vision of a 900' Jesus. I have survived cancer, stage 4 of 5, 13 years now. The cost was staggering but I paid the surgeons and oncologists, and as a survivor contribute to research and CRS. Lifestyle and frame of mind cause disease. There is a mind/body connection. If your soul is sick seek divine help. When the body is failing see a physician.

Both require offerings.
6

murren59,

Isle of Arran 26/04/2009 03:21:42
Please brothers, please sisters, soften your hearts and offer this Holy Healer from a far off land, the warm hand of friendship.

Verily, let us offer him more than that I say, much more. A kiss, a Glasgow kiss, is the least this divine messenger deserves from each of our friendly flock...
7

W Smith,

Middle East 26/04/2009 03:47:45
So the National Secular Society will, of course, be speaking out against militant Islam as well.

Aye right.

Hands up those of you have heard of the National Secular Society.

This newspaper talks about them like we've all heard of them.

BTW
A nice diversion Mr editor.

It wasn't that long ago this newspaper endorsed Hamas (islamists) over Fatah (socialists).

Can I suggest Mr editor you go back and read some of The Scotsman articles?

The real story is in Pakistan where the National Secular Society fears to tread.

The Swat valley has been handed over to the Taliban and a Pakistani couple were executed for supposedly committing 'adultery'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/5220532/Taliban-gunmen-shooting-couple-dead-for-adultery-caught-on-camera.html

Considering many Scottish Labour MPs have been invovled in adultery (the late Robin Cook, George Galloway, Jack McConnell, etc) lucky the Taliban doesn't control Scotland, eh Editor?
8

Wallace1297,

26/04/2009 04:25:08

I think you will find Mr Smith that the Secular Society regularly denounces militant Islam with equal zeal as Christians lunatics like yourself

I always knew there were a few religious loonies in Scotland. However I did not know that we had reached such a level of stupidity the people would go to such a vulgar Chaucerian fraud whose only purpose in life is to raise money from credulous fools.
9

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 26/04/2009 05:11:25
And bottles of Snake Oil will be available in the foyer after the show for only 10 quid a bottle!!!
10

robbie lynne,

Choctaw, Oklahoma USA 26/04/2009 05:20:23
I am from Oklahoma where he is coming from..he is actually selling Snake Oil..After the scandal of the University..he has kind kept a low profile here in the midwest..or we are not too keen on finding him...kind of embarrassing..like the okie from muskogee song lol
11

Pocket Dictionary,

26/04/2009 06:47:37
I don't recollect Jesus passing the hat around after healing someone. Nor did it depend "on what happens on the night".

I remember a church where the minister was an Amway seller. The Sunday Mail did a story on him and he was making £50k pa. Since multi level marketing requires you to recruit to bring the £'s in. Wonder how many Christians were recruited?
12

RDavis,

Vienna 26/04/2009 06:54:30
Wasn't America where the 'medicine man' was invented, where ha trailed about in his covered wagon?
13

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

26/04/2009 09:13:40
2...Here pal whits the chances they'd get folk to post stuff backing up their claims on scottish newspapers online?...call me paranoid or jist call me horrible...

"900" foot Jesus?..he's bin drinkin that "Snake oil"...a da called "Oral Roberts"..oh help that fair tickles me...an ye know why?...cos that jist about sums the whole thing up...story telling...a good yarn...a whopping fib..a loadabull...started orally and ended up as the bible...koran...etc...

Just so sad that desperate people are driven to these charlatans and fraudsters..

"Oral Roberts"?......sounds like a 70's porn film.....mind ye...same thing...obscenity......
14

Calum Crubag,

26/04/2009 09:15:55
I wonder if auld Vincent will go and see this guy.

The whole bible is full of incredulous boolshoit and the RCC regularly crow about various 'miracles'. All unproveable of course, but quite profitable to some. And of course, if they provide 'comfort' to the deluded and bemused then it's all Ok then.
15

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 26/04/2009 09:27:02
Scottish public tell sick American evangelist to:
"Go Home Yank"!
16

hertscot,

26/04/2009 09:39:35
"When I was back there, in seminary school, there was a person who put forth the proposition that, you can petition the Lord with prayer."

"YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER !!!!!!!!!!!"

Jim Morrison (The Soft Parade).
17

pitpony,

musselburgh 26/04/2009 09:45:28
is this man got enything to do whith tony blair and new labour party same bile same bible ?
18

John JP,

Wishaw 26/04/2009 09:50:46
If a patient has exhausted all conventional treatment options then I see no reason why they should not turn to alternative therapies even if it is just for psychological relief.

If you have ever seen some of the dreadful treatments for cancer you would probably wonder if the treatment was worse than the disease as it often hastens death. The thing is, if the Health Care Professionals paid more attention to detail and concentrated on the new symptoms and problems that occurs with cancer on a daily basis then patients would not need to seek unconventional treatments.
19

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 26/04/2009 10:17:32
By 'dreadful treatments', John JP, I assume you mean the ones that, while they may have some side effects, have been proven to work, unlike snake oil, prayer, homeopathy and other woo nonsense?
20

John JP,

Wishaw 26/04/2009 11:31:06
#19 Zeno. I acknowledge that some cancer treatments are more successful than others. However I note you have published ' While they have may have some side effects, have been proven to work, unlike snake oil prayer, homeopathy and other woo nonsense.' I can assure you Zeno that the vast majority of cancer patients who undergo cytotoxic chemotherapy +/- radiotherapy will have dreadful side effects and complications. Some will die from the complications. So to say that some patients may have side effects is I think showing that your knowledge of this is particularly poor and massively underestimating what a patient goes through.

I think I have also written that after a patient has exhausted all conventional treatment options then turning to alternative therapies is reasonable even for psychological release. Whether that be seeking solace in the church or a healer or taking part in therapies like reiki etc. If you are ever in this unfortunate situation then reflect on my words and you will understand.

Maybe you would enlighten me to what woo nonsense is as it is not a term I am aware of.
21

Boy Wonder,

26/04/2009 11:53:28
The authorities should bar him entry to the country as they would any religious zealot of any faith!!!
22

Thrawn,

UK 26/04/2009 12:23:30
When I saw the headline, I thought that it was referring to Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling.
23

Jay Kay,

26/04/2009 13:17:00
Isn't this guy one of those televangelists whom the american government are investigating for fraud on a massive scale.

The Scottish government need to barr this man from entering the country, he is a crook and a charlitain, there should be a law against this kind of crackpot, evangelism, big business in the states with the pastors earning millions and using the company jets to holiday in the best parts of the world.

All bogus, beware give this man NOTHING
24

Christopher Hobe Morrison,

Pine Bush, Ulster County, NY, USA 26/04/2009 14:31:56
It probably doesn't do any harm to let him do his stuff as long as he doesn't actually claim to cure people of medical conditions. If he does he is guilty of practicing medicine without a license and he is subject to criminal and legal penalties. This would probably include civil suits by people whose family members were prevented from receiving proper medican care through fraud. Proper follow-up of people who have gone to him would take care of this, and there needs to be some requirement for reporting of cases. How could Roberts refuse to do this if he wants us all to accept his claim to have healed people.

As far as the money is concerned, he could be taking money by fraud, and then there is always the chance that he is cheating on his income taxes (which would be SHOCKING!), so any damage could surely be corrected and this gentleman be exposed if necessary. If that happened, he could be kept from entering the country in future on that basis.
25

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 26/04/2009 14:45:57
Steer well clear of religious fanatics. anyone who still believes in fairy tales is obviously suspect.
26

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 26/04/2009 14:47:47
"Over 20 years ago I was told by my physiotherapist that my football days were over after a very bad injury left me unable to bend my right leg properly or to run without a limp. Fortunately I attended a healing service a few months later and normal movement returned that day - I have had no trouble with my right leg ever since, and continue to enjoy playing.

Miracles do happen!"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah !!!!!!!
27

Brodric,

26/04/2009 14:57:57
no 6 murren - absolutely hilarious - thank you for making me laugh at the visual picture I had.
28

Brodric,

26/04/2009 15:00:27
Now to business. This is horrendously cruel and this guy should be held here until at least half of the people he takes 'contributions' from are healed.

On the other hand, sometimes faith healing has a place within the treatment of a person. But not from these American roadshow gits who are lining their own pockets.
29

Brodric,

26/04/2009 15:02:45
Boy Wonder - its great to see you back - where have you been? Hope not in Mexico or you might need this miracle fella.

I did want to say what you said but then thought that maybe he should sink his own ship here in Scotland and get that Glasgow kiss that murren was talking about. Just desserts etc.
30

radge dug,

26/04/2009 15:48:21
This guy is obviously a fraud. But are his claims any more ridiculous than those in the bible?

Is Tony Blair and other Christians any less deluded for believing in the virgin birth? Or those who pray, believing that god will listen to them and them alone, even though this whole world was 'designed' by him in the first place??!
31

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 26/04/2009 15:58:41
James

I can assure you I will not be clamouring for any pseudo scientific woo nonsense even if I've exhausted all proper medicine. I also will not be making any kind of death-bed conversion. Woo is a useful term, whose meaning should be fairly obvious: it refers to any pseudo scientific unproven or disproven nonsense.

I certainly agree with you that many complications are utterly dreadful. I'm not an oncologist (are you?), and since you said "the vast majority" - and not "all" - I'm not sure why you seem to be disagreeing with me saying "some".

I have no problem with people using quack remedies as long as they are not forsaking proper medical treatments. I also don't care what people take for things like the common cold - it'll generally get better after a week regardless. Many quacks actively or implicitly give out the message (by use of language, etc) that they can cure where conventional medicine cannot (whether true or not) and frequently encourage their customers to give up on conventional medicine and sell them their brand of woo instead. This is what is dangerous.
32

Alexander the Scot,

Michigan U.S.A. 26/04/2009 16:11:32
When I first arrived in the United States, the novelty of the difference took a bit of getting used to; however with the passage of time, what was then foreign is now commonplace. The one thing that really shocked me back then was seeing the hordes of those so called healing preachers on television, it was embarrassing to watch those hucksters waving the Holy Bible, yet never reading a single line from it. It was like watching the scene of a horrible accident when your eyes are involuntarily drawn to it: a grim fascination so to speak.
I thought of a passage in the Bible where it is stated that God will not be mocked when I witnessed those charlatans perform their "healing acts".
While circuses and carnivals were still the favourite forms of entertainment for the general public before television, the carny men stood on boxes and reeled in the rubes for the side shows, and all for the cost of one thin dime. That form of "entertainment" has gone by the way of the medicine shows where the elixirs contained secret ingredients handed down from the Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt and guaranteed to cure all ills, not for ten dollars, not for five dollars, not even for a dollar, but a mere fifty cents a bottle.
The "miracle men" of today are the descendants of those shysters of yesteryear.
If a "medicine show" should ever have made the mistake of returning to a town for a second time, the fate of the 'miracle workers' generally suffered a "sticky end", they were hot tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.
Richard Roberts has taken his "medicine show" on the International circuit. He no doubt will never make the mistake of visiting any country more than once, just in case tarring and feathering comes back into fashion.
33

davidtourist,

Denver 26/04/2009 16:59:46
I'm and American and a Christian and I am embarrassed that this man is portrayed as typical of Christianity Over Here. The reality Over Here is that much of the gas has gone out most of the so-called healing ministries and the government is indeed investigating some of the more blatant crooks. While all Christians believe that God can heal our diseases, Jesus simply never promised to do so and the New Testament is replete with examples of sick people of great faith who were not healed. However, Jesus did promise to heal our broken hearts if we are willing to face the reality of our sinfulness and rely upon Him for forgiveness.
34

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 26/04/2009 17:06:03
an evangelist rolls into edinburgh and sets up a big circus style tent in the meadows
hes preaching that with the power of jeeeesssusss he can cure the sick and infirm
he asks for 2 people to come forward to be cured
up steps jimmy,now jimmy has had a bad stutter since childhood
no worries says the man of god jeeeeesssssusss will heal ya
2nd man johny is on crutches,ill save you says the holy man
he tells them to go behind a screen,and hes giving it waldie,at the end of his fire and brimstone preeching,he shouts "johny throw away your crutches"
BANG! they land on the stage
ooooooohhhh says the crowd
jimmy speek to me
"JJJJJJooohnnny fell on his ar-se
35

Media at One,

26/04/2009 17:21:01
Let him cure the sick - but if he only one person out of 5 receives the miracle, then it aint much of a miracle.
Religion - it is so unnecessary! It would be so much better if believers trusted in their own beliefs and followed their own path of spirituality as opposed to hinging their hopes on the words of some fool on a stage fronting an organisation that has all their hopes at heart. Oh yes, and gives us some money why dont you.
36

Alexander the Scot,

Michigan U.S.A. 26/04/2009 17:28:50
33 davidtourist.
Well said.
37

Wallace1297,

26/04/2009 18:14:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfX3uA15RM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Eco%2Euk%2Fvideosearch%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3D2%253A30%2520report%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwv&feature=player_embedded
38

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

26/04/2009 19:16:23
34...Brill!..*
39

Satire above all,

26/04/2009 19:39:19
When I first saw this headline...I said...geee...noooo...this isn't going to another Susan Boyle story...is it? Phewww :-)
40

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 26/04/2009 20:13:30
#39
when i first saw her ,i thought it was gordon brown doing a mrs doubtfire,as it looks so much like him
41

Ally,

London 26/04/2009 22:29:46
As long as he's fully aware that fraud is a crime in this country, and our justice minister makes it clear that we all expect fraud to be prosecuted and the perpetrators put away in the Bar-L...he's welcome.
42

The Obvious Truth,

edinburgh 27/04/2009 00:11:57
"W Smith,
Middle East 26/04/2009 03:47:45
So the National Secular Society will, of course, be speaking out against militant Islam as well.

Aye right.

Hands up those of you have heard of the National Secular Society.

This newspaper talks about them like we've all heard of them."


Some people have heard of them but you will probably find the sort of people that have heard of them are the same sort of people that will question, read and try and understand different points of view, rather than the sort of people that do what someone in shiny long robe tell them to do.

If you had found them you may have realised that the link you post concerning the story in The Telegraph is also linked from the NSS's website and the regularly speak against Islam as well as Christianity.

By why let facts decide what you think when you have the power of faith and belief on your side anything you decide to be true can be true because you have faith that it is the truth.
43

response,

Syd 27/04/2009 01:10:49
Send me yer sheckles ane ill cure anythin
44

RDavis,

27/04/2009 06:14:55
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, I believe oh lordy I believe this is the biggest load of Bull S*** I have read. Hallelujah!
45

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 27/04/2009 10:23:54
At least not many cancer patients are wasting their time trying woo: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8017238.stm.

 

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