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Published Date: 04 August 2008
CYCLISTS today called for work to tackle overgrown bike paths in the city to be prioritised following a series of complaints.
Users of the off-road routes throughout Edinburgh are angry about the number of trees, bushes and weeds that need to be cut back.

They say the vegetation is causing problems for both cyclists and pedestrians, but would have been dealt with sooner
if it affected a road.

Specific complaints have been received about the state of the north Edinburgh cycle way, along the route from Canonmills to Leith, while there are problems with weeds at Victoria Park in Newhaven and nettles growing on the path near the Dean Gallery.

A spokesman for cycle lobby group Spokes urged the council to treat the problem as a "priority".

"Bushes grow and grass grows every year, so it shouldn't be a surprise that paths need cut back," he said.

"It's doubly important right now because the use of these paths is growing, both with cyclists and pedestrians.

"It's inconvenient if the paths are overgrown, but also risks unnecessary conflict between pedestrians and cyclists trying to pass each other.

"This should be treated in the same way that the council would cut back vegetation overhanging a road or bus lane."

Inverleith Labour councillor Lesley Hinds said that paths have been cleared annually in previous years and she contacted a local neighbourhood manager to ask about the situation.

But she was told that there was "no budget" attached to such work, and the paths can only be "cleaned and cut back by the task force as and when they have any spare capacity".

Cllr Hinds said today: "A constituent raised concerns with me, and said the paths were becoming difficult to use.

"I assumed that if I reported this, the work would be carried out, but the response I received was unsatisfactory.

"The council needs to ensure that cyclists and pedestrians have accessible and clean paths."

The complaints were raised by Stockbridge mother Marie-Agnes Lecuirot Bodenham, 47, who cycles with her son Maximillian, 15, to school at Trinity Academy and has been using the paths through Trinity and the Dean Village for 20 years.

She said: "It's never been this bad. You have to duck to avoid the hedges and there's a lot of metal poking out from the sides.

"They only need to tend it once year. I'm not a gardener but I don't think that's too much to ask."

The complaints come just days after the council announced a review of how it tackles weeds, after a combination of bad weather and new restrictions on the chemicals used to kill them left some streets overgrown.

Forth Labour councillor Elizabeth Maginnis branded the state of some streets in north Edinburgh – particularly Granton, Boswall, Pilton and Muirhouse – as a "disgrace".





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  • Last Updated: 04 August 2008 10:47 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

allknowing,

04/08/2008 12:10:13
Does anyone know who has right of way on these paths, people or bikes??

2

Hibernia,

04/08/2008 12:11:14
Why doesnt Marie-Agnes get Maximillian off his bike and give his some pruning shears and get him to work!
3

Cumberland Sausage,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:18:25
#1 - I don't think there's a priority system on these stretches. Whenever I've seen it elsewhere, it tends to be pedestrians who get the right of way.

I cycle along from Leith to Canonmills and haven't noticed the problem described by Marie-Agnes Lecuirot Bodenham.
4

Ganjass,

04/08/2008 12:21:44
Get all the mad junkie tea leafs pruning bushes amogst other things as part of community service if the cost is an issue!
5

Daft Old Git,

04/08/2008 12:27:06
Marie-Agnes Lecuirot Bodenham has a silly name and has given her son an equally silly name. I think at 15 he is old enough to cycle to school himself. The complaints of this vegetarian Greenham Commoner should never be taken seriously
6

MARCHER,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:28:51
Its about time they laid tarmac on the cycle route between Silverknowes Rd bridge and the back of Tesco at Davidsons Mains - large stones, gravel and overgrown makes it unsightly and difficult for cyclists and pedestrians who use this route.
7

Mallory,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:44:01
Get off your bikes and start gardening - its for your benefit after all
8

alex paterson,

edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:44:03
Why dont the moaning cyclists get of their bikes and help clear the pathways.
9

Porty Cyclist,

edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:46:09
Last year,the council used a "bulldozer" to trim back the vegetation on the Fishwives Causeway thus spoiling all the rasps and blackcurrant bushes that offer a wildlife haven yet offer no problem to cyclists.

If they want to help cyclists then sweep these routes of broken glass on a regular basis.
10

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 04/08/2008 12:47:43
no. 8 why don't all the motorists that moan about pot-holes get off their butts and fix them as well ?
11

Artemis,

04/08/2008 12:56:53
#8 - better yet, all the cyclists should stop using the off-road paths and start using the roads, and we'll see how happy that makes you.
12

A Leither,

04/08/2008 12:57:03
Alex - you're slipping (or perhaps it's the onset of dementia) as you managed to comment on a cycling story without mentioning bells... ;-)

#10 - Great comment.

#9 - we should be using the community service neds & nedettes to clear up the glass and vandalism on the paths; after all, there's a good chance that they probably smashed their Bucky bottles there in the first place !
13

It's heading straight for us!,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:59:10
As a cyclist I think #7 and #8 actually have a point.

We have a pretty comprehensive network of cycle paths that we dont have to pay to use. If the cycle networks arranged regular 'tidy up' days in conjunction with the council these could run as a 'cummunity event'.

Areas that are a problem could be tackled - the local cycling shops could get involved, cyclists would provide the labour with the council helping out with tools and taking away the rubbish.

This would demonstrate our city and its cyclists determination to be involved in keeping the network open and create a sense of ownership with these paths (plus if any dog walkers, joggers etc want to join in all welcome!)
14

It's heading straight for us!,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 12:59:54
oops - meant to say 'community'

Doh
15

Artemis,

04/08/2008 13:05:11
#13 - we do pay to use them through council tax and income tax and vehicle excise duty and VAT, all of which goes into the communal tax pot and is then shared out again. I don't see motorists suggesting they should all get together to fix the pot holes in the roads that we all pay for.
16

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 04/08/2008 13:14:41

Marie-Agnes Lecuirot "I'm not a gardener" Bodenham complains to council about a few weeds.



17

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 04/08/2008 13:20:32

Her cousin Marie-Antoinette Veuve-Cliquot Brioche Sauvignon "I'm not a pilot" Guardezlieu and son Conrad go to school by helicopter.
18

PaulB,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 13:24:08
#13 that's an excellent idea - maybe it could coincide with the anuual Water of Leith cleanup. I cycled down towards Leith on this path last week, and could not see any problems with weeds and overhangining branches. It's more of a nuisance that the council has closed the access bridge between Powderhall and St Marks Park.
19

Scotish Exile,

04/08/2008 13:27:04
Let the cyclists pay for it themselves, about time they actually paid for something
20

P I Staker,

04/08/2008 13:28:38
Maybe the cooncil could store the flags they're prepared to spend a million £s on along the edges of the routes - that would keep the weeds back, and then when they needed them to fly up the toon they could have a couple of guys on top of a road sweeper lifting them down whilst the broken glass etc gets swept up.

Am ah brillyunt or what?
21

Brian Ferrari,

04/08/2008 13:33:34
#15

I think cyclists should have to pay road tax to ride on cycle paths and roads - that would provide money to maintain them.
22

Finbarr Saunders,

04/08/2008 13:36:41
I'm fed up with self-rightous cyclists.

Buch of sickly, tofu-eating whingers.

Instead of whinging, they should get cars and pay road tax and fuel tax like the rest of us.
23

Cumberland Sausage,

04/08/2008 13:56:10
#22 I resent that depiction of cyclists. I am a cyclist myself but I'm a red-blooded, meat-eating, working class father and have never sniffed a bit of tofu in my life. If you carry on with this lazy stereotype, I shall have no option but to bash you on the head with my copy of the Guardian.
24

Hibernia,

04/08/2008 14:20:31
Actually Id rather see cyclists that using the roads to be paying proper insurance like you have to do for cars.
25

Angus R,

04/08/2008 15:11:39
I'd like to see more cyclists using the pavements and running red lights.
26

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 15:20:27
Labour councillor Lesley Hinds assumed that if she reported this, the work would be carried out .... Erm, No Lesley, that's what being out of power means - you no longer get to snap your pudgy fingers and a kooncil lackey jumps! Besides, cuts have to be made somewhere to pay for Dopey Burns' grandiose TramCar Legacy.
27

First Minister,

On way to Pitlochry 04/08/2008 15:37:17
Any New Labour ( H. M. North British Branch )Politician has a cheek moaning about the state of anything, i have have just moved to Beirut, sorry Granton, and parts of the area are disgusting, who has been in power in Edinburgh for years?
How many million barrels of oil does Scotland produce, 5-8 million a day? Hmm Union Dividend?
28

Skip McClendon,

04/08/2008 15:44:27
#15

"I don't see motorists suggesting they should all get together to fix the pot holes in the roads that we all pay for."

- Erm, not that I am in any way anti-cyclist but....you HAVE heard anout things like Road Tax and fuel duty, haven't you? Little things that car users pay in order for the roads to be maintained?
29

531 Biker,

04/08/2008 15:56:35
#28 Road Tax? - hasn't existed for years - you must mean Vehicle Excise Duty.

And what makes people think that cyclists don't drive. I have two cars (and a motorbike) but I mainly cycle - because I love it and it's quicker than bus train or car for my commute. So by your "logic", my "Road tax" payments are subsidising your use of the road

As a 5000 mile a year cyclist (Fife - Edinburgh every workday and tours in Europe)I can confirm that I do eat tofu, I am a vegetarian, do not read the Guardian and am not sickly.

Oh, and we do have a great series of cyclepaths in this country. They are called roads, and I commend them to all cyclists (but maybe not to all people who ride bikes).
30

Epicuras,

04/08/2008 16:06:57
how many people get community service orders to serve every day, probably hundreds at least - get them down there clearing it out - a bit of graft won't hurt them and be a change from their usual activities like washing police cars or ironing the same shirt over and over for hours on end
31

Skip McClendon,

04/08/2008 16:14:46
#29

I know that cyclists drive, and vice-versa. Since I do both.

But I also know that car users pay more towards the upkeep of roads than cyclists do.
32

M33,

04/08/2008 16:15:45
What's wrong with a bit of vegetation anyway? I vegetate every night in front of Big Brother with a giant bag of Doritos and I love it.
33

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 04/08/2008 16:21:53

#31 yes but does weed complainer Marie Hors D'Oeuvres Bonham-Carter drive a car?

I'd guess citroen 2CV or a Scooby Doo van.
34

YummyMummy,

04/08/2008 16:34:00
I agree people doing community service should do work like this.
#27 I stay in Moredun which is the same. My 2 year old has fell on the broken glass on the paths a number of times now, thankfully never cutting himself but the place is a state.
35

The Sheriff,

04/08/2008 16:55:53
Why don't the cycle community get of their bikes and do it themselves...I mean I could understand them whinging if they actually made a financial contribution...mind you if got these maniacs off the pavements and roads then it might be money well spent.
36

Artemis,

04/08/2008 17:48:34
#28 - would that be Vehicle Excise Duty you're talking about? Because that goes into the general taxation pot, along with the income tax, VAT and council tax paid by everyone, not just motorists, and the VED paid by the many cyclists who own cars. We ALL pay for the upkeep of roads, regardless of whether or not we own cars.
37

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 04/08/2008 19:29:11
FACT - the roads in Edinburgh (including cycle paths) are maintained by the Council - paid for out of COUNCIL TAX. So if you pay Council tax - you pay for the roads.

All those idiots who go on about 'cyclists not paying road tax', well neither do 250,000 ''disabled'' (what a joke) blue badge holders in Scotland, also many low emission small cars, crown exempt vehicles, vehicles built before 1973, all fire engines, ambulances etc.

So presumably all these people (using your twisted logic) should also not use the roads ?
38

A Leither,

04/08/2008 20:21:25
We cyclists DO pay VED at the same rate as those other vehicles classed as zero-emission - ie £0.00 ;-)
39

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 04/08/2008 23:27:34
Surely you kids know that the Council no longer does anything anymore - we just pay it so it can pay itself ... providing services of any kind will become a thing of the past --- unless .... you get up off your backsides and VOTE these corrupt, brain dead, PC, lazy feeckers out !!

YOU voted this Libdem council in - YOU must send them a message if you think the council is not doing its job - which it has never done for about 15 years !!

Please vote someone in that really stands for reducing the size of the council - it's crazy, misdirected and squanderous spending - AND returning services to what they were 15 years ago ... that, sadly, would be a phenomenal step forward !

But for now - mind the brambles !
40

Shetland Dave,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 00:29:30
#24 spot on.
41

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05/08/2008 02:27:37
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42

tonyf,

the land of Oz 05/08/2008 04:43:08
Maximillian Lecuirot Bodenham - poor lad sounds like he's named after some sort of exotic lettuce! I wonder what his mates shorten his name to....Max Legroom, Maxi Curie, Maximum Bodders....the possibilities are endless.
43

Bodders,

edinburgh 11/08/2008 15:19:42
This is Maximilian here, and I would like to clarify a few points.
first of all, thanks to everyone backing us up.
Secondly, I do cycle to school on my own, what they meant is that my parents use the path as well, though at different times. I have cycled to school since I started secondary and have never once been chauffeured to school. Cycling is GREEN, CHEAP and FUN. Instead of having a go at us, those of you that are, you should try cycling, then you'll understand the point we are making.

Finally, would you drivers out there be willing to fix potholes and other problems on the roads: I doubt it. You expect the council to sort it out. My parents pay taxes, and I will when i'm older and those taxes should cover repairs to roads, foot paths and cycle paths. I am willing to bet that some of you also DRIVE into the advance stop for BIKES at traffic lights. Your comments are typical of the inconsiderate lazy slobs that drivers are.

BTW, the paths between tesco and newhaven and the other ones in that area are part of the north edinburgh CYCLEway, so bikes have priority. however the water of leith walkway is also used by both, but bikes should give way to pedestrians.
44

Bodders,

edinburgh 11/08/2008 15:45:47
In response to "tonyf", you are a cretin. Maximilian is a more interesting name than Tony and my parents happen to have a bit more abition for me. My mum happens to be french so when commenting on my double-barrel surname you are being a racist idiot.
If you have nothing intelligent to say concerning the issue of overgrown paths, shut up and get lost.

 

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