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Published Date: 09 July 2009
THE extradition of an autistic Briton accused of hacking into US military networks is a "disgrace", MPs heard today.
David Heath, for the Liberal Democrats, said Gary McKinnon was "being cynically handed over" to the US authorities as part of a "one-sided" extradition treaty between the UK and America.

He called on Home Secretary Alan Johnson to block the extrad
ition of Glasgow-born Mr McKinnon, 43, from Wood Green, north London, to allow him to be tried in Britain.

Former Labour minister Tom Watson (West Bromwich E) also weighed in, demanding Mr McKinnon should be tried in the UK as removing him would be a "brutal act".

But Commons leader Harriet Harman said it was not a matter for Mr Johnson and the case had been decided by the courts.

Mr McKinnon, a computer expert, is seeking judicial review of the then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith's decision last October to order extradition after previous legal challenges failed.

The US government said he was responsible for the "biggest military hack of all time", involving 97 government computers belonging to organisations including the US Navy and Nasa.

But his supporters say he acted through "naivety" as a result of having Asperger's – a form of autism which leads to obsessive behaviour – and should not be considered a criminal.

During questions on future parliamentary business, Mr Heath said: "The Home Secretary, I thought somewhat disingenuously, says he cannot instruct prosecution – that is absolutely right.

"But what he can do is to stop the extradition and allow the circumstances in which this unfortunate gentleman can be tried in this country.

"Many of us feel that this one-sided extradition treaty is a disgrace to Britain. This use of that disgraceful treaty is a further disgrace and a shame."

Ms Harman told him: "This is a matter not for the Home Secretary's decision, it is a matter that has been for decision by the courts and they have decided this man should be extradited. It is not for the discretion of the Home Secretary, it is a decision by the courts."



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  • Last Updated: 09 July 2009 1:44 PM
  • Source: scotsman.com
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Computer crime
 
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Brianwci,

09/07/2009 16:12:22
#1 I suggest you do a little research on Aspergers before making inane statements.

Autism, in its many forms robs people of the ability to be fully integrated into any society because they lack the awareness to do so.

Although their intelligence can be high, often it's never used to potential because of inability to concentrate, for a variety of reasons.

However, even high functioning Autistics like Mr McKinnon fail to grasp the social norms which govern the rest of society.

The last thing he needs is the insanity of the US prison system with its 150 year sentences and other such lunacy.

Keep him here and put his obvious computer skills to good use.

2

captainscarlet,

09/07/2009 16:15:29
#1 it is a condition he was born with it is not an illness.

but you are right he did know what he did and even stated the complexity of the process' of hacking.

i personaly do not think it was solely UFO files he was after, he probably went after anything that would elevate his stature and make him acceptable in his community because he knows he is different and therefor felt outside of the norm.

he will have been accepted but not as an NT
3

captainscarlet,

09/07/2009 16:35:43
people i know with autism state that the USA are way ahead with their treatments for autism.
4

r1niceboy,

Nebraska, via Polwarth 09/07/2009 17:47:50
#4 Which he'll maybe get treated for in between rapes.
5

Dylan fan,

Planet earth 09/07/2009 18:47:49

Well, if he is Autistic.. or Genius Savant...
He could be gifted in somethings and totally devoid of other abilities... Introverted, closed off, etc. It makes me think someone may have put him up to using his abilities in this way. Not fair to make him stand trial... I agree.
6

go boil ur heid,

09/07/2009 19:05:01
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith (a liar and a thief) talking about justice. makes you laugh
7

Balliol II,

Dunbar 09/07/2009 19:46:47
#8 I wonder which planet you are on? Jacqui Smith is not the Home Secretary any longer. The basic injustices are the one sided extradition treaty which should never have been agreed and doubt if he did more than teach the US government about the weaknesses in their computer security.
8

Kenny A,

09/07/2009 19:46:53
This is a difficult issue, what the man did was wrong, however if he has a mental disorder this should be considered. The earlier post was correct, keep him here and use his abilities, but under supervision.
9

Electric Hermit,

09/07/2009 20:44:03
The extradition "treaty" with the US is an affront to justice. Nobody should be extradited under the terms of this appalling betrayal of citizens perpetrated by the British Labour Party.

10

Alan B,

09/07/2009 21:22:19
If you do the crime you should be prepared to do the time.

It should be up to the US courts and prosecution services to decide whether and what jail time he should serve assuming he is proven guilty.

I do not understand why people think that a UK citizen committing crime in the US should not face trial.


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captainscarlet,

09/07/2009 21:53:23
#5 they are not put into the main stream prisons
12

captainscarlet,

09/07/2009 21:55:07
http://freegary.co.uk/
13

Jimmy Fae the West,

Land O' Green Ginger. 10/07/2009 00:05:08
Geez, how embarrassing for the yankees? First they claim the North Korean experts are hacking into web sites and now it's PC users in the UK! Perhaps the UK police have been in charge of the inconclusive investigation?
14

Jimmy Fae the West,

Land O' Green Ginger. 10/07/2009 00:09:03
#15 Joe. The Labour party are not comprised mainly of Scots. The Labour party are mainly Englishmen such as Londoner Alistair Darling. Good grief. The SNP is the only party defending Scotland and Scots. Hats up to the SNP!
15

vincentvoy,

chessington 13/07/2009 14:36:56
the man is immature and still a child in mind body and spirit.
to expose him to the punitive and undoubted harsh, execrable environment of the american penal system would be unpardonable, pointedly cruel and unconscionable. the man 'child' has alreadly suffered severe mental ordeal akin to a 1000 lashes in the last 5 years - 'damocles' sword still hangs above him.
government and parliament exhibit correct political behaviour expected of it by the us administration in denying full legal redress here - despite the fact that the crime was committed here. We are still the poodle and that won't change until the extradition treaty is changed.
A very strong undercurrent of popular support over a broad spectrum of the public for this 'asbergers' afflicted person has built up. Government led by Brown through the modality of the courts would be well advised to accede and quietly concede ultimately in his favour. Not to would be politically rather 'unwise' - if Brown truly has labour's skin in mind - he is seen as 'anti-british citizen'. I predict gary will ultimately be tried in the UK and not USA.
Vincent, Clairvoyant

 

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