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Published Date: 02 March 2009
THE Catholic Church is losing congregations by alienating women and failing to give them a public role, Cherie Blair said last night.
Church leaders must modernise the role of women in order to halt the decline in church attendance, she said.

Mrs Blair, herself a Catholic, said: "One of the fundamental weaknesses of modern Christianity is its ambivalence to women, and particula
rly for Catholicism.

"Until the traditional churches fully resolve their relationship with the female half of the population, how can they expect Christianity to have a future in the modern world?

"Traditionally, it was women who passed religion on to their children and who kept the Church going through good times and bad, but when it comes to the public face of Christianity, women are virtually invisible."

Her remarks were part of Christianity: A History – The Future of Christianity – a documentary she presented last night on Channel 4.

Mrs Blair said Christians were "often being marginalised and faith is something few people like to discuss openly".

She and former US first lady Laura Bush discussed the impact of their husbands' religious beliefs on their political careers and rubbished claims that the two men would pray together.

Mrs Blair also spoke to Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, the leader of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, about the role of women in the Church.

She said: "If you actually look at the formal structures of the Catholic Church, you don't see a woman's face when you see people speaking for the Catholic Church. Can we change that?"

The Cardinal responded: "Now, I don't think that will develop towards priesthood or episcopacy because of the tradition of the Church in that role, but I do see that the roles and the gifts of women being, not just appreciated, but used more fully."

But Mrs Blair said: "I firmly believe the traditional churches in Western Europe can be saved but there are a number of urgent steps that need to be taken.

"Down the centuries, women have formed the backbone of faith communities but their public role has reflected the culture of the time.

"Today, while women remain marginalised, Christianity cannot flourish. Women and men must be equal partners in 21st-century Christianity."

She said that former US president George Bush "faced widespread criticism" for his religious convictions.

She added: "It's a very fine tightrope, this division between religion and public life, and it can lead to assumptions and unfair criticisms about the motivation and reason why politicians take the decisions they do, and people then taking from that that somehow you're saying, 'Everything I do is justified by God'."

Mrs Bush said her husband was "open about the role of faith in his life" but that he never "thought God told him things", as some people had claimed.

Mrs Blair also revealed that every time she did not use contraception, "I seemed to have a baby" in a discussion about the Church's attitude to birth control and abortion.

She said: "How could I have done all the things I have done if I hadn't used contraception?"

• The programme is broadcast tonight at 7pm.

Pope given a formal invitation to visit Scotland

A FORMAL invitation has been issued to the Pope to make the first papal visit to Scotland in almost 30 years, it emerged yesterday.

Jim Murphy, the Scottish Secretary, said he had spoken to the Prime Minister about a Scottish visit by Pope Benedict XVI (pictured below), after Gordon Brown invited the Pope to the UK during a meeting at the Vatican.

Mr Murphy said it would be for the Vatican, Downing Street, and Buckingham Palace to work out the details of any papal visit, but that the feedback so far has been "positive".

He added: "I spoke to the Prime Minister about it on Monday on the back of it and said as part of the UK visit a visit to Scotland, I think, would be appreciated by Scots."

Pope John Paul II made a six-day trip to the UK in 1982, which included a Mass in Bellahouston Park in Glasgow attended by about 300,000 people.

The date of any UK visit is not clear, according to Mr Murphy, although the Prime Minister has said the pontiff could visit as soon as he wanted. But the 81-year-old Pope is due to visit Cameroon and Angola later this month, with a trip to Israel planned for later in the year.





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  • Last Updated: 01 March 2009 9:26 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Roman Catholic church
 
1

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/03/2009 00:12:13
I don't see the problem here. The Pope is descended from St Paul and anything he does is inspired by Jesus. And he's welcome any time - there are apparently plenty of hotel rooms at popular prices.
2

Matt there,

Somewhere 02/03/2009 01:17:21
If Cherie doesn't like it, she should quit.
3

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

02/03/2009 01:41:32
Clearly it's time for the Blairs to form their own Church.
4

Dunnie,

canada 02/03/2009 02:47:29

Cherie - pls accept the fact that you no longer matter - you never did. So, STFU!
5

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 02/03/2009 06:42:06
Only been in the door 2-minutyes and already complaining. If you don't like the rules - DON'T TRY AND CHANGE THE RULES - GET OUT.

#3
I thought they would already be members of the "Church of the Labour Party and the Immaculate Maggie Brown".
6

W Smith,

Middle East 02/03/2009 07:08:21
Sexism eh?

Is this the same Cherie who took a moderate muslim Head teacher to the High Court?

The muslim head teacher didn't want muslim girls to cover their head to attend school so some imams got a sixteen year old muslim girl to challenge it with Cherie representing the girl.

A victory for the sexist imams was the result thanks to our Cherie - all paid for through legal aid.

7

catgut,

pomona 02/03/2009 07:37:04
why just pick or one religion, there are other religions that treat women worse. you know who you are
8

old soldier,

Muir-of-Ord 02/03/2009 08:07:09
Cherie is a good one, she makes all the money she can and calls for her rights. But who listens to the Blairs any way they were the start of the mess were in now. Can we claw back thier pensions?
9

Brodric,

02/03/2009 08:15:20
Have you noticed how Cherie Blair has suddenly been plunged onto TV this weekend?

Airing her views on the Politics Show she blethered on about how this recession will offer opportunities for women. I wonder how, especially if your man is out of work. Women are not living in isolation.

Then on the History of Christianity. I have been following this moderately interesting programme, and intended to watch last night until I heard that she was presenting. I just couldn't bear watching her again.

Who is helping this idiotic woman to make a career on TV as a commentator and presenter? Not only does she have a stupid voice and a stupid expression, I have the impression that she is not really in touch with people, and worse still, doesn't have the background to do what she was doing.

Cherie, being the wife of a former PM doesn't mean that you are experienced enough. Hilary Clinton was always active in her own right - unlike yourself.
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02/03/2009 08:18:52
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Brodric,

02/03/2009 08:19:58
11- Vote UKIP - "a chick", an old boiler more like.
12

jdships,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 08:24:53
Cherie Who ?
Her and her husband they are "yesterdys peaople"
She has always come accross as a "wanabee" who never quite made it !!!!!
13

Duncan in Edinburgh,

02/03/2009 08:25:16
#5 Cherie Blair has been a Catholic her whole life.

Perhaps you were thinking of her husband, who only recently converted?

Still, it makes you insults look a bit stupid doesn't it.
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02/03/2009 08:26:40
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The Ayrshire Bard,

02/03/2009 08:35:35
What was Cherie's fee for this?
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Maximus,

Roberton 02/03/2009 09:10:38
What a shame Cherie Blair does not appear to be aware of JPII’s teachings on the Theology of the Body (now over 30 years old), Dignity of Woman (now over 20 years old), and Christ’s Faithful Laity also over 20 years old). Not to mention a special letter to woman on 29th June 1995.

All of which describes man and woman in the context of their purpose (something we seem to be ignorant of in our culture today), and where woman possess a ‘genius’.
17

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 02/03/2009 09:10:50
Quite right too Cherie and while you're at it, please address the other sexist stuff like worshipping Mary and having statues of her everywhere (in Catholic places, of course).

Then, once you have done that,have a sex change as your sexualty is overt and go forth and androgenise the World.
18

Thrawn,

UK 02/03/2009 09:25:56
Women have had a raw deal in the major religions since the first wise man penned Genesis. Of course, it was Eve who tempted Adam ...

#18: Roman Catholics don't worship the BVM; they pray to her. Her role is to set women a perfect example of how to live and to serve as a female counterpart in a male-dominated Church.
19

AJ Fife,

02/03/2009 09:41:50
Surely Murphy can't invite the Pope to Scotland - he's only a Westminster flunky!

Only Mr Salmond, as Scotland's true leader, can hand out the invitation.
20

MikeN,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 10:30:29
#5 - Cherie Blair has been a Catholic all her life. It was hubby who recently joined.
21

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

02/03/2009 10:57:20
Thank gawd I saw the light...load of misogynistic old nonsense...Cherie hen get a grip and give it the heave ho...find something better to do with your time..like actually opening your eyes and recognising when you are being conned...
22

bluehead,

edinburgh 02/03/2009 11:08:33
if women spoke less and listened more perhaps we might get more sense out of them,
frankly I wouldn't listen to any thing she has to say
it was bad enough having to put up with tony Blair
enough is enough!!!!
23

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

02/03/2009 11:10:30
24..You sound just like a mad mullah?..you a bible basher?
24

Osama Bin Liner,

edinburgh 02/03/2009 11:24:54
This is quite comical and a little sad at the same time. Cherie's prescription for falling chaurch attendances is to give women a greater role. This rather ignores the fact that that the population is actually maturing away from religion. In an increasingly rational society many more people can see through the medieval nonsense of organisations who are now of only marginal relevance to most of society.

This is underscored by the Cardinal's response: "Now, I don't think that will develop towards priesthood or episcopacy because of the tradition of the Church in that role". That is, "we've always done it that way".

The church's philosophy and relevance are firmly rooted in the past.


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Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

02/03/2009 11:35:46
26..Aye...thats whit ah said exactly!...or thereabouts..
26

Thistledhu,

02/03/2009 11:53:40
The pope comeing to scotland!!!

The bigots will be dusting off there sashes as we speak

The security firms will be working on their tenders.

The working girls or leith will be getting some rest as such an influx of the faithfull would be very good for trade.

The papal visit t shirts will be on sale at parkhead by saturday.

And when the dust settles the attendance at church on a sunday will still coninue to fall
27

AJ Fife,

02/03/2009 12:22:19
#28,

Am no wan for the supernatural nonsense of the Church, but I laughed when the last Pope blessed a raging Pastor Jack Glass and Ian Paisly, as he passed them his Pope-mobile during the visit to Glasgow in the early 80s!

Does the current Pope have a similar sense of humour?

28

Thistledhu,

02/03/2009 12:31:16
#29 so did i a priceless moment is it still on film anywhere?
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Number 6,

Germany 02/03/2009 13:28:26
Testing Testing, may I post please?
30

sam the god,

02/03/2009 13:31:06
Thank god I am an atheist and above all this drivel.
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Number 6,

Germany 02/03/2009 13:36:26
28/29 Gentleman , do you also remember the po-faced young vicar and his band of what looked like Black and Tan Vets?.

They were protesting the removal of some trees in, I think Bellahouston Park where the pope was playing a sold out gig.

His words will live with me for ever, he said :

"What concerns me is that today it's trees but tomorrow it may be Protestants".

It was remarkable to watch him standing there, shaking with fear, hate and rage.

I'm sure the clip is available somewhere on you-tube.
I feel it should bew shown, and discussed in every class room in Scotland.

It gave an insight into how bad society could become if we ever let the disease of Sectarianism to take control of society.

Hilarious, yet very disturbing at the same time.


As for Human scream mask Blair. She should keep her zippy like gob firmly shut. She can't open it without some pathetic, destructive PC claptrap spewing out.

I'm not sure who's worse, her or her equally revolting husband.Let's hope her words reach the Vatican and the Pope tells her where to go the next time she asks for an audience.
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Number 6,

Germany 02/03/2009 13:40:54
Wait a minute !!!!!!!!
The vatican turned down Brown's offer as he is not constitutionally permitted to invite the Pontiff.

Only the Queen can do that. How strange this paper seems to have missed that.

Och thull no notice.......editor.

Disgraceful journalism.. AGAIN.

lets see how long this post stays up.
33

Mcsnagpile,

02/03/2009 13:42:39
The problem is not just religious. Feminizing society is investing in big problems for the future.
Woman are the backbone of all religions. But there is a natural order.To feminize a religion will reduce the respect you will get from many men. It is all to do with sticks and stones and broken bones.
Men need a strong leader with clear insight.
At the end of the day,
They will all walk away.
34

Green,

02/03/2009 14:08:33
Maximus

All of which describes man and woman in the context of their purpose (something we seem to be ignorant of in our culture today), and where woman possess a ‘genius’.

Yeah the old equal but different nonsense..

Women stay at home, mouths shut, legs open.

Thanks Popey things
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Green,

02/03/2009 14:10:07
This is underscored by the Cardinal's response: "Now, I don't think that will develop towards priesthood or episcopacy because of the tradition of the Church in that role". That is, "we've always done it that way".

The church's philosophy and relevance are firmly rooted in the past.

Yes RAT think

Revelation
Authority
Tradition

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Maximus,

Roberton 02/03/2009 15:31:10
Green - I suggest you read these things before passing comment.
37

Luke Skywalker,

02/03/2009 15:33:37
Other churches have women ministers and it has not stopped them sliding into irrelevance. The whole thing is a nonsense but it is very entertaining to watch.
38

Jingo,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 16:28:23
Dave from Barra, Catholics do not worship the Virgin Mary only the God, father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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02/03/2009 17:51:19
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02/03/2009 19:32:09
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Tartan Viking,

02/03/2009 19:43:18
Saw her on tv last night. She's a scary woman.
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radge dug,

02/03/2009 21:40:00
Can't believe an intellgent woman is part of this ludicrous church. Of course it's fkn sexist! It's also had a good line in supporting fascism over the years and massacaring 'heretics' too. Not to mention shielding and covering up child abusers. It's even got a saint for arms dealers!!
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02/03/2009 22:05:13
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senza nome,

02/03/2009 22:05:36
#45.No religion has a monopoly on reactionary policies.Martin Luther was an anti-Semite.Neither the inventors of apartheid in South Africa nor the founders of the Ku Klux Klan were Catholics but they were bigots.
There was plenty of massacres on both sides of the religious divide too, Oliver Cromwell being a keen exponent."Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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02/03/2009 22:20:27
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Alba Abú,

02/03/2009 22:28:08
Lets just check a bit closer to home. The "Christian" orange order is a cesspit of hatred and bigotry.

 

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