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Published Date: 24 August 2008
Glasgow, with its zero-tolerance stance, I'm afraid has the worst record of all in coping with the numbers of street prostitutes
PROSTITUTION will be eradicated in Scotland's biggest city as part of a radical and controversial bid to clean up Glasgow's streets and protect women.

Senior council officials and police said they were adopting a zero tolerance approach to buying
sex to stop Glasgow becoming "the Bangkok of the north".

But politicians and groups representing sex workers said the policy was doomed to failure and would put more women at risk.

Last year the law in Scotland was changed to outlaw kerb-crawling. Previously the law criminalised those selling sex on the streets. The change meant the scrapping of long-running tolerance zones in Aberdeen and Edinburgh.

But Glasgow, after reviewing its policy on prostitution, has decided to lobby the Scottish Government for another change to the law that would criminalise anyone buying sex. At the same time, council workers are trying to persuade sex workers to abandon their trade.

Depute leader Jim Coleman said: "We applaud and plan to emulate the Swedish approach. For the best of reasons, many residents believe that if you regulate prostitution you make women safe. But as soon as you discover the violence and exploitation endured by women every day, it cannot possibly be condoned."

Ann Wilson, the city's head of strategic management for community safety services, confirmed that the council's goal was the elimination of prostitution in Glasgow. "Sexual exploitation is completely unacceptable, so we're doing what we can to address and tackle the demand.

"It is a myth that prostitution is the oldest profession and that it will always be with us. We are in this for the long haul, but do not underestimate the challenge it represents.

"No country or city has managed to get rid of the problem, but countries such as Sweden have begun to see an impact. They have seen no growth in prostitution and a significant reduction in trafficking."

Bridget Curran, of the council's social work services department, claimed its Base 75 drop-in service was making progress in convincing women to leave prostitution. She said: "There have been remarkable successes, such as women going on to university and securing challenging jobs."

Strathclyde Police acting assistant chief constable John Pollock confirmed the force would take an ultra-tough line on vice, asking: "Do we really want to be known as the Bangkok of the northern hemisphere?"

He added: "What kind of values do we wish to promote in our society? We are committed to denying those who profit from this exploitation."

Strathclyde Police said no-one was available to comment further on their prostitution strategy. Nine prostitutes have been killed and several others seriously injured in Glasgow over the past 17 years.

However, Independent MSP Margo MacDonald was frustrated by the Glasgow authority's stance, which she believes will simply drive prostitution underground.

She said: "I get so angry when I hear people who really haven't properly researched the subject say blithely 'Let's follow the Swedish model'.

"The people in Glasgow who are promoting this sort of approach really should have the humility to ask why it is in Edinburgh the number of people working as street prostitutes have dropped, in Aberdeen it's stable and in Dundee it's stable.

"Glasgow, with its zero- tolerance stance, I'm afraid has the worst record of all in coping with the numbers of street prostitutes and they continue to rise."

The Lothians MSP felt that the idea of eliminating prostitution was unrealistic. "It is likely to be ineffective from the point of view of the general public, from the point of view of the prostitutes and from the point of view of anyone affected by prostitution."

She claimed that there was much less chance of chance of tackling drug abuse and trafficking of women when the police did not know where sex workers were.

The Scottish Prostitutes Education Project (ScotPEP), a charity which gives support and advice to sex workers, claimed that zero-tolerance policies, like those espoused by Glasgow, would be counter productive and would actually put women at greater risk.

A spokeswoman said: "Studies show that criminalisation and clampdowns on kerb-crawlers merely cause sex workers to work longer hours in greater isolation, leaving them more vulnerable to attack – as well as reducing their access to essential services."

ScotPEP has released figures showing that the number of attacks on prostitutes has doubled since 2006.

Glasgow's approach is not shared by Edinburgh or Aberdeen, despite recent changes in the law. Both cities have taken a more pragmatic, harm-reduction approach to prostitution in recent years.

The capital currently has around 13 saunas, effectively legalised brothels, operating under licence from the city council. In Aberdeen, Quay Services, a Scottish Government-funded body, has been texting health and safety advice to sex workers who have been dispersed from the harbour area by the legal changes.

The body, which is supported by Aberdeen City Council, encourages women to work from flats in pairs rather than on the streets, where they are more vulnerable.

Pollock's remarks about Bangkok, meanwhile, have upset Thais in Scotland, who also pointed out their capital city is in the northern hemisphere.

Vicky Khunapramot, who runs a business importing art from Bangkok to Scotland, said: "Thai people will definitely be offended by the idea that the only thing people associate with Bangkok is prostitution.

"He should have chosen his words more carefully. You can make a point about problems in Glasgow without having to drag another country's reputation through the mud."





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  • Last Updated: 24 August 2008 10:56 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Prostitution
 
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Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

24/08/2008 13:59:46
This will drive it into the shadows even more...making the women highly vulnerable to all the creeps, weirdos and pérverts that want to harm them...

Give yourself a shake...while there are men and women there will always be prostitution, it will never stop and it is time to start dealing with it as adults....

Zero tolerance will only make it more of a thrill to the men who seek cultural taboos.
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24/08/2008 14:13:14
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calum,

24/08/2008 15:01:14
Once again, Margo MacDonald promotes the idea that street prostitutes in Edinburgh are "safer" than elsewhere. This is absolute rubbish and she knows it. That is why known pimps were always behind the scene and that a senior MSP like her should promote the continuation of the most overt form of abuse of women is reprehensible.
Her failed and unlawful "tolerance" experiment in Leith with ScotPep and the discredited former senior Police officer Tom Wood only served to continue the dependence of street prostitutes on pimps, suppliers, hard men and "partners" and did nothing towards leading them out off this vile trade in human suffering. Interstingly, Scotpep's so-called "violence" figures are not backed up by the police who, in spite of having a liaison officer to work closely with, have no official figure to confirm their claims.
And once again Margo puts street prostitutes in more danger by suggesting that the Police use them for gathering intelligence, as if they were informers. Margo, I'm afraid its you who has no idea how this business works but I guess it would be safe to assume that they're not wanted in your street?
The problem with the numbers of assaults on people generally, including prostitutes, lies with the fact that even on a Saturday night you barely see police officers in the street like you used to, acting a a deterrent and a point of contact for everybody.
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Guga II,

Rockall 24/08/2008 16:24:00
'Strathclyde Police acting assistant chief constable John Pollock confirmed the force would take an ultra-tough line on vice, asking: "Do we really want to be known as the Bangkok of the northern hemisphere?"'

Heaven help us if someone of his rank has no idea of geography. Last time I looked, Bangkok was in the northern hemisphere. He probably has a driver to take him home at night, in case he gets lost. It really makes you wonder about the recruitment standards of the police.

In any event, isn't this typical of the police. Pick on the easy targets like prostitution and motorists, and forget about the difficult ones like drug dealers, violent, knife wielding thugs and neds, and similar.
5

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 24/08/2008 17:11:43

Agreed Cankers ~1,

An IDIOTIC, Proposal, made by people that have never lived and that has, 'mince for brains'!
6

calum,

24/08/2008 17:14:56
But the trouble is, Guga II, that street prostitutes are the end product of your "drug dealers, violent, knife wielding thugs and neds, and similar" and MSPs like Margo MacDonald just don't seem to get the picture or refuse to see the reality. Their policy is to let the street prostitutes continue to be the end product -- shame on her!
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Miss H,

24/08/2008 18:53:23
What Glasgow is lobbyimg for is the position that exists in Sweden and I think Finland as well. I would say they have a good chance of winning the argument and I would certainly support them.

The underlying issue is surely trafficking. You cannpt take a hard line on trafficking without taking a hard line on prostitution. Granted you will never completely eliminate trafficking any more than you will comletely eliminate prostitution. But you can still choose whether to make ot easy or hard for the trsffickers to take their product to market.
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livilion,

livingston 24/08/2008 19:20:01
"Do we really want to be known as the Bangkok of the northern hemisphere?"'

Does Glasgow want to be known as the Embra of the west?

Working in the Court in Edinburgh's Chambers Street imagine my surprise to find an apparently well frequented knocking shop next to their high court's back door loading bay. I also hear anecdotes that the busiest time for Edinburgh's brothels is during the CoS General Assembly, allegedly.

Are the prozzies still hanging around near Pitt Street?

As a young student heading for the bus station I aye thought it odd that these women plied their trade so near to Strathclyde's head polis office.

Our city fathers talk with forked tongue?
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privateer,

Scotland 24/08/2008 20:04:29
Maybe those wanting a more informed picture of what is happening in Sweden, may find it worth looking out for Isabella Lund's comments on the subject. A spokeswoman for the Sex-workers and Allies Network in Sweden (SANS), and a prostitute herself, is of the understanding that 'prositutes in Sweden think there is actually more prostitution now than in 1999'. Official estimates put the number of streetworkers in Stockholm at 200 in 2006, compared with 300 before the ban.
A recent report from the National Board of Health and Welfare, admits that it can't say whether the law has reduced the number of prostitutes:
"It is impossible to show any simple causal links between...legislation and changes in prostitution," the report states.
Can I suggest that street prostitution in Scotland is now only a small percentage of the industry and isn't representative of it all. There are many prostitutes (escorts) working in Scotland who have chosen to come into the 'profession' of their own free will, who pay taxes and are more than happy with their situation. To criminalise their customers would certainly have a negative impact on their lives.
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privateer,

Scotland 24/08/2008 20:12:24

Ms. H, could I just point out that when the term 'trafficking' is used by the media etc., it doesn't necessarily mean women duped into sex work, chained to beds and forced to have sex with 20 men per day against their will - there is a small proportion who are in this situation (and there are already laws in existance which make this a crime) but many should be seen more as 'migrant sex workers' - some smuggled here illegally and some moving in through the EU. These women can make the equivalent of the 10yrs pay they would get in their own country, in the space of a few months here.
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livilion,

livingston 24/08/2008 20:49:07
Is this mebbe also a chicken and egg situation?

Could women sell sex if men weren't willing to buy it? or could men buy sex if women weren't willing to sell it? and who are the victims and are men always the pimp? ie are all men really ba$tards and rapists?

Is it ever those forced to buy or those in the market to sell a marketable commodity.
Depends on which end of the 'market' you look at, I suspect.
Do 'freebies' count?

Face it, most of us end up paying for sex or selling it one way or another, whether its putting a roof over heads or meals on the table. Oh dear, I'm going too far... I'll get my coat...
12

BK,

Cyberspace 24/08/2008 21:07:27
Guga II
'Strathclyde Police acting assistant chief constable John Pollock confirmed the force would take an ultra-tough line on vice, asking: "Do we really want to be known as the Bangkok of the northern hemisphere?"
that is a point I was going to make myself but you beat me to it. He probably means the Western World. Next time you are charged get your lawyer to ask if the offence tol place in the West End or the North Side and the plod will not know the difference. And on the Subject of Bankok, Could Mr. Pollock explain why most Banging of Koks in Glasgow happens in the vicinity of his own Police Headquarters?
13

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

24/08/2008 22:37:08
12....You know what happens when people really want something and they are denied it?...some end up stealing it....

Who is "Us?"....you sound like a cynical bunch of saddos.....
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Garry Otton,

Scottish Media Monitor com 25/08/2008 08:00:50
This is not about protecting women: It is about telling women they need protecting from themselves. Jim Coleman is a moral campaigner. He hired a hall where religionists gathered together to campaign against an e rotic exhibition held in many UK cities. They successfully got it banned from being held at Glasgow's SECC. Let's move this argument into the 21st century. Let's concentrate on separating crime from sex. The tolerance zones worked.

 

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