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Published Date: 19 November 2008
Men who have sex with women who have been trafficked or forced into prostitution will face prosecution under a shake-up of vice laws unveiled today by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.
Ms Smith said that the tough new approach will mean there are "no more excuses" for men who use the country's estimated 18,000 prostitutes.
Under the changes, paying for sex with a woman "controlled for another's gain" will become a "strict liability offence" in England and Wales, meaning prosecutors will not have to prove that the man knew a prostitute was being exploited in order to charge him.

Ignorance of the woman's circumstances will be no defence and those convicted will get a criminal record and a fine of up to £1,000.
In cases where the man knows that the woman is working as a prostitute against her will, he could be charged with rape, which carries a potential life jail sentence.

Today's proposals, drawn up following a six-month review which looked at vice laws in countries including Sweden and the Netherlands, will also allow kerb-crawlers to be prosecuted for a first offence, rather than persistent activity.

And police will have greater powers to shut down brothels associated with sexual exploitation, without having to prove that they are linked to class A drug use or anti-social behaviour.

Ms Smith said the Home Office considered banning payment for sex outright – as proposed by women's minister Harriet Harman – but found that there was no public support for it.

She said: "I want to do everything we can to protect the thousands of vulnerable women coerced, exploited or trafficked into prostitution in our country and to bring those who take advantage of them to justice.

"That is why I am determined to shift the focus onto the sex buyer, the person responsible for creating the demand for prostitution markets which in turn creates demand for the vile trade of women being trafficked for sexual exploitation.

"There will be no more excuses for those who pay for sex. This new criminal offence of paying for sex with someone who is trafficked or pimped will apply even if the buyer claims he did not know the woman was being controlled for gain.

"I also want to tackle kerb crawling. In my book, once around the block is once too many, and so I'm making kerb-crawling punishable as a first offence. I also want to see more naming and shaming of persistent kerb crawlers."

The changes bring the law in England and Wales more closely into line with Scotland, where anyone trying to pick up a prostitute faces a possible fine of up to £1,000.

Cari Mitchell, of the English Collective of Prostitutes, warned that laws supposedly targeted only at women suffering exploitation would have a damaging impact on those who sell sex by their own choice.

"Bitter experience tells us that any law against consenting sex forces prostitution further underground and makes women more vulnerable to violence," she said.

"Under the proposed offence, any client of a woman working for another could be convicted. But what is his crime? The woman is working voluntarily and is likely to be making a better income than most women in commonly available low-waged jobs."

Ms Smith said she recognised that some women make a free choice to work as prostitutes, but did not accept the argument that economic circumstances leave them with no alternative means of supporting themselves and their families.

She told BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour: "My argument with the English Collective of Prostitutes is that somehow there seems to be an implication that it isn't underground and doesn't involve exploitation and these are all women making a free choice at the moment.

"I am afraid that everything we have discovered from enforcement action and through talking to prostitutes is that this is not the case.

"We have already got a problem with trafficking. We have already got a situation where a majority of women – even when they haven't been trafficked – say they want to get out of prostitution, and quite often got involved in it under the age of 18 effectively as children."

National marketing campaigns will aim to raise awareness among men who use prostitutes of the kerb crawling offence and the realities of trafficking.

Gloucestershire Chief Constable Dr Timothy Brain, who speaks for the Association of Chief Police Officers on prostitution and vice, said the Government had signalled its intention to bring about a "sea change" in attitudes towards prostitution.

"Any man who intends to pay for sex with a prostitute will have to think very carefully because it will be no defence in future to claim that they did not know someone was trafficked or controlled by someone else for gain," he said.

"Measures to close brothels are to be welcomed and will give police powers to protect neighbourhoods from the nuisance and harm they create."

Denise Marshall, chief executive of the Eaves Poppy Project, which supports trafficked women, said: "We are delighted that the Government is taking a stance on this issue and will criminalise men who buy sex from these vulnerable women."

But shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve said: "The Government's proposals will not protect the most vulnerable victims. Rather than creating new laws, the Home Secretary should focus on enforcing existing laws.

"But in the last year alone, the Met Police's human trafficking unit has been axed, and convictions for trafficking for sexual exploitation fell by 40%."

Conservative women's spokeswoman Theresa May added: "Once again the Government's answer is to reach for new legislation.

"The risk is this will force this activity even further underground, putting vulnerable women in even more danger.

"The Government should be doing more to help women who find themselves forced into prostitution."

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  • Last Updated: 19 November 2008 12:45 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Prostitution
 
1

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

19/11/2008 13:10:47
This would actually make sense if there were some sort of Government Seal of Approval for those brothels which employed only volunteers.

Without such, and absent other clues, it's surely unreasonable to expect the customer to understand the circumstances of the establishment..

Hopefully if such an unreasonable law is enacted, juries will exercise their right to nullify its worst aspects by convicting only when the customer could have had reasonable grounds to believe coercion was involved.

There seems to be some kind of iron law in the Labour Party that each and every Home Secretary must be more authoritarian than the previous one.

My suspicion is that this is a thinly-veiled attack on prostitution itself by attempting to frighten the customers. The politically correct have simply borrowed a bigger stick from Sweden with which to beat these women.
2

Ewan Oosami,

19/11/2008 13:21:55
So it's alright to pay for sex as long as the woman is not giving a share of the proceeds to anyone else? Another ill thought out piece of legislation. Surely the best course of action is to have proper brothels like they do in Germany where the girls are protected against pimps, medically examined and are taxed on their earnings - you'll never stamp it out so why not take advantage of it tax wise.
3

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 19/11/2008 13:44:13
The onus should be on the man to ensure that the woman he is making an agreement with does so of her own free will. Obviously legalised brothels would assist with that. But men who use girls who are trafficked and are no more than slaves deserve everything they get.
4

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 14:02:34
So now anyone who employs the services of a prostitute is expected to shoulder responsibility for numerous things over which they have absolutely no control and would only know about if they were told.

Well done smith, you've just proved to the world what a stupid, dumb excuse for a woman you are. Resign at once and take that other shower of morons with you.
5

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 19/11/2008 14:43:19
You need to be told if someone is a sex slave ? A trafficked 15 year old ? No you don't. It's obvious. Men need to take responsibility for their actions, without the market these girls won't get sold on like bits of meat.
6

Number 6,

Germany 19/11/2008 14:52:29
What an appalling ignorant piece of typically ill thought out legislation from this increasingly dreadful party.

Without doubt, the most primitive rules governing prostitution in Europe.

If they had any sense they would have studied and introduced the German model. But of course, this is Liebour. When on earth have they ever taken the right option.
7

Number 6,

Germany 19/11/2008 15:01:44
Smith sqwaks that she wants to protect the women being trafficked into the country. If that was really the case then why has her department issued 300,OOO inproper visas to immigrants in the last year alone.

With our borders so hopelessly guarded by this shambles,is it any wonder so many women are being brought to the uk to be exploited by their illegal immigrant pimps.

They really are the most terrible political party we have ever seen. Harridin Harmann egged her on to try and ban prostitution outright until they found there was no public support.

Of course when that happens their principals are thrown straight out the window and they try another hopeless angle.

What a walking disaster.
8

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 19/11/2008 15:12:57
The women are the victims of the legislation and the pimps.

Give them protection under the law, legal rights and medical support.

In Nevada it is well organised business why is it that when these things are legal the problems of abuse and forced prostitution disappear but when you have stupid laws they are there.

Shame on us as a society that we cannot deal with this issue correctly and with honesty.

Have the male MP's use female prostitutes when they are in London. The other have use Rent boys.

9

Number 6,

Germany 19/11/2008 15:39:06
#8 Here Here. In Germany many of the brothels are family run, with the Grandma at the top.

Clean, safe and healthy for the women EMPLOYED within.
10

Venachar,

19/11/2008 16:10:53
Just think, in the wrong place if you had a beer, a cigarette and sex you could become a career criminal in very short order. Harriet Hariden loony legislation, it ain't called the oldest profession for nothing. If these idiots think this will solve anything then they are very much mistaken.
11

Joe Macdelta.,

19/11/2008 16:26:30
#9 Your right, its the only way to go, legalise prostitution and you solve the problem. Not only that but you also take them into the tax bracket, you ensure they have regular medical checks, and the workers are safe in a secure place of work. This must be the only country in Europe that has no legalised brothels, prostitution is a fact of life and has been going on since the year dot, it would solve the problem of kerb crawlers as well, time for a referendum on this.
12

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 19/11/2008 16:39:15
If labour legalised prostitution they would immediately over regulate it.

I for one would like to offer my services for quality control of the newly legalised and regulated industry.

13

Chatatara,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 17:57:50
Legalize it. They would then pay taxes. But of course that would hinder the justice system from making some money
14

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 19/11/2008 23:32:33
I'm taking a wild guess here but I reckon I'm the only woman on the thread who has actually worked with the victims of prostitution who have been trafficked. If men want to buy sex from women who want to sell it then fair do's it's nobody's business but theirs. And legalised prostitution would make everything a lot simpler and I'm in favour of it. But men who use sex slaves are scum and deserve everything they get, to say they don't know the difference between a woman who willingly sells sex, as is her right, and bonded slaves is rubbish. They do.
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20/11/2008 00:07:53
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Teofilio Cubillas,

20/11/2008 01:27:51
Why would you look to Holland for advice on how to deal with prostitution? Lovely country, lovely people but the red light district of Amsterdam is a seedy dump, full of wasted old hippies, jaked out alkies, rattling junkies and eye-wateringly explicit porn at eight-year-old child eye level. The famous windows are filled with bored looking African and Eastern European prostitutes, no doubt trafficked themselves. What is it we want to learn from this?
17

bluehead,

edinburgh 29/05/2009 10:53:17
oh yeah!well there is no more excuses for having this nut case as home secretary,I wouldn't put her in charge of the brownies
it seem to me, at times, that there isn't one brain in working order in this crazy labour goverment,which was past it,s sell by date, five minutes after taking office,
she should put all her energies into catching all the politicians who are on the fiddle with expenses,at least that would keep her away from the ordinary people
who are heart sick of this particular lady.

 

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