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Published Date: 11 March 2009
THE Prince of Wales was yesterday accused of financially exploiting the public with a detox product based on "outright quackery".
Professor Edzard Ernst branded the £10 detox tincture, part of the prince's Duchy range, "a dangerous waste of money" and said Charles was misleading people and ignoring science.

The leading academic, professor of complementary medicine at Peninsula Medical School in Exeter, said detox went against the "tablet of medical history" and there was no evidence such products worked.

The body was more than capable of detoxing itself, he said, adding that the prince was financially exploiting "a gullible public in a time of financial hardship".

The tincture, which is part of the Duchy Herbals range of products, is on sale via the Duchy website and in selected Boots stores and Waitrose.

The website says the tincture, which contains dandelion and artichoke, is "a food supplement to help eliminate toxins and aid digestion".

Users are advised to take the tincture twice a day as a 2.5ml dose in a glass of water.

"It is important to follow a varied and balanced diet and a healthy lifestyle," the website adds.

Prof Ernst said there was no evidence detox programmes worked, and he accused the prince of presiding over "Dodgy Originals".

He went on: "The body has a powerful mechanism to deal with itself and there's no evidence that dandelion or artichoke will improve these functions. If a patient has a diseased kidney and cannot eliminate toxins via their kidney, then they need serious medical help.

"Products like this are a dangerous waste of money. Charles is exploiting people during hard times."

Prof Ernst said the word "detox" undermined the treatment of people with drug addiction– getting them off narcotics represented a "real detox".

He said: "It also gives a bad name to the respectable side of herbal medicine, which has a lot of good in it.

"If people are led to believe they can overindulge on food and drink and put that all right with a Duchy detox tincture, then that, to me, is endangering public health.

"It is almost cynical to put such a product on the market."

Prof Ernst said the prince and his advisers "seem to deliberately ignore science and prefer to rely on 'make believe' and superstition".

He added: "Prince Charles contributes to the ill-health of the nation by pretending we can all over-indulge, then take his tincture and be fine again.

"Under the banner of holistic and integrative healthcare, he thus promotes a 'quick fix' and outright quackery."

Andrew Baker, the chief executive of Duchy Originals, said the Duchy Herbals Detox Tincture was traded as a food supplement in accordance with both UK and European food laws, and had never been described as a medicine, remedy or cure for any disease.

"There is no 'quackery', no 'make believe' and no 'superstition' in any of the Duchy Originals herbal tinctures," he said.

"We find it unfortunate that Professor Ernst should chase sensationalist headlines in this way rather than concentrating on accuracy and objectivity."



TIDE TURNS AGAINST DETOX GOODS

THE number of detox products available to consumers has increased massively in recent years.

But controversy surrounds the whole issue of detox, with the scientific community united in the view that the body is able to rid itself of toxins.

Earlier this year a study complied by Voice of Young Science, part of the Sense About Science group, said consumers were being misled into believing that detox products worked.

No two companies used the same definition of detox and their claims were "meaningless", the report said.

The scientists found that, while manufacturers used the word detox to "promote everything from foot patches to hair straighteners", they were unable to provide reliable evidence or consistent explanations of what the detox process actually means.

That study came soon after the British Dietetic Association, which represents 6,000 dieticians across Britain, said there was no "potion or lotion" which could "magically" rid the body of chemicals.

The idea that dangerous toxins build up in the body was dismissed by the health experts, who said the body was capable of cleaning itself.

But detox is not the only area of alternative and complementary therapies which has been questioned by scientists.

Last year, Prof Edzard Ernst, of Peninsula Medical School, said he would award £10,000 to the first person who could show that homeopathy worked.

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  • Last Updated: 10 March 2009 11:46 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Prince of Wales
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 00:24:14


Poor 'Charlie Boy' being sucked into such a venture!...
...Better you have me as your, "Prince Charles"!
One that Knows all these things, and does not get paid for it!
And 'Of-Course', I am better looking and Scottish!, and have a 'Heart of Gold'!

Any Takers, any Votes?? :))

2

Lobeydoser,

11/03/2009 00:30:45
The unique element in Charlie's elixir is that he talks to every dandelion and artichoke as it grows. Guaranteed to activate the most stubborn of kidneys!
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 00:42:08


Lobeydoser ~2,

What "Charlie's" you talking about, Me or Him? :)

And I expect a Honest answer!

4

Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 11/03/2009 06:49:18
Give him a break! He only owns the firm. He probably never heard of the product until the professor told him about it.

5

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11/03/2009 07:10:57
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nabodican,

Rural Scotland 11/03/2009 08:04:47
#5 Greenhill
It is just as well that Charlie will not reply to you as I imagine it would read something like - "Greenhill is a stupid ignorant,ill mannered nobber"
7

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 11/03/2009 09:36:36
"Andrew Baker, the chief executive of Duchy Originals, said the Duchy Herbals Detox Tincture was traded as a food supplement in accordance with both UK and European food laws, and had never been described as a medicine, remedy or cure for any disease."

Well. Perhaps. But they are very careful in their use of language - all designed to mislead. They claim (http://www.duchyoriginals.com/detox_tincture.php):

"eliminate toxins and aid digestion"

"HRH The Prince of Wales has always been an advocate of a requirement for fundamental reappraisal of the way we view health. He believes poor health does not exist in isolation, but is in fact a direct consequence of our lifestyles, cultures, communities and how we interact with our environments. He is passionate about adopting an integrated approach to health, as well as exploring how safe, proven complementary therapies can work in conjunction with mainstream medicine."

No, it doesn't say it is a medicine, but they are guilty of deliberately misleading people into thinking it is.
8

AD in sunny Livingston,

11/03/2009 09:39:55
They're talking like this is the only detox tincture available on the market. It's only one in a huge, long line of them.

I hate the media
9

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11/03/2009 09:42:53
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Puzzler,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 10:09:55
Prince Charles is 'dangerous, dodgy quack who exploits the vulnerable'

E'gad Brain! Summed the fellow up in 10 words or less. No real need to read the rest of the article. It defines old jugears to a T.

Well said sir (or Madam)!
11

Munguin,

11/03/2009 10:18:59
"this are a dangerous waste of money. Charles is exploiting people during hard times."

Doesn't Professor Ernst realise that its Charles and the rest of his family who are a dangerous waste of money in hard times. And also does he not realise that exploiting people is what the royal family are all about and what they have always been all about.

It's what they do!

They all live in palaces paid for by us, swan about in helicopters, private jets, trains and so on paid for by us, expect to be deffered to and listened to simply by fact of birth. They think they can act anyway they like, do whatever they like with no consideration for the ordinary norms of society. Now thats exploitation!
12

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

11/03/2009 10:28:56
Load of fuss over nothing...chemists are choked with quackery..
13

Mark Insch,

11/03/2009 10:29:19
Met him once - seemed like a thoroughly decent chap to me!
14

Munguin,

11/03/2009 10:42:36
I refused to meet him once after we were given a lecture by his royal flunky on what how we should act, speak, behave, defer and so on. He did not seem like a decent chap to me, unless decent chaps expect you to call them Sir and to only speak when spoken to, oh and they first give you an extensive list of things not to say.
15

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11/03/2009 10:51:40
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Anonym,

11/03/2009 11:23:13
But Munguin, there would be no point in having a Royal family at all if they weren't living it large and playing polo, flying about, living in palaces, and sticking two fingers up to the little people. It's what they are for, and they do a very good job of it.

As for being at our expense, what would you do with your contribution, buy a tin of beans?

This detox tincture scam sounds like a jolly good wheeze. For certain, there will be a beneficial placebo effect to placate the plebs.
17

Tris,

11/03/2009 11:37:30
#9. True, but there are some people who may believe what Charlie says because he is royal, and, in their opinion, above all this nasty, lying, cheating, "business" stuff.

Clearly he isn't, and this stuff is a con, but as some people have pointed out on this thread, the whole royal family is a con.

#17. I might buy beans or maybe carrots. The'd do me a lot more good than his detox.

18

Munguin,

11/03/2009 12:06:40
#17 I would rather wipe my nose or back side on my contribution than give it to this free loading plauge of locusts!

But you are right when it comes to stuffing us all, they also make a very good job of suiting themselves and doing exactly as they please with no shame. Despite that fact I have no doubt that Prince Charles' back side is much the same shape as other mens even if he does not think it should ever sit in anything other than first class luxury on a private jet.
19

saneatheist,

Bixter 11/03/2009 12:52:03
They're calling it a tincture, the dictionary definition of tincture is.

#Pharmacology. a solution of alcohol or of alcohol and water, containing animal, vegetable, or chemical drugs.#

So clearly they are misleading folk.
20

Ronald Penman,

Glasgow 11/03/2009 12:53:50
What bemuses me about the big-eared one (in-breading carries its hazards y'know) is the blatent hypocricy
that defines him ;

The "environmentalist" who favoured mode of transport is in gas-guzzling vehicles.

The "ecologist" who's entertainment of choice is the ritualised abuse and torture of wild animals.

The "philanthropist" who lectures the rest of us on
issues of poverty, whilst steadfastly contributing little or nothing in tax revenue.

The Prince Charles; a walking, talking, advertisement for Republicanism !
21

Highland Mist,

11/03/2009 13:47:11
I'm certain that Prince Charles would be the first to emphasise that Detox products are not, and never could be a 'quick fix' and that they are an aid to a better life along with regular exercise and healthy eating. Artichoke (and milk thistle) are a natural way to detox and they increase bile flow, helping to detox (cleanse) the liver and also help to prevent gallstones from forming. The Jerusalem artichoke is a natural laxative.

Many people are 'toxic' because of modern life - pollution, stress, poor diet, drugs, alcohol and cigarettes are all poisons to the body. Fried food is also toxic and all of these are poisons to our bodies that create free radicals that age us prematurely, make us ill and can cause cancer, cardiovaascular disease, diabetes II and cause premature death. Modern day life makes us ill and itmes of this nature are an aid to us finding our way back to health.

I wounder what drug company sponsors the learned Professor? Of course, we all know that the multi billion $ drugs industry is completely altruistic and that drugs are good for us. As opposed to the evil natural remedies that nature has given us.............

Waken up people!!
22

écossais at heart,

france 11/03/2009 15:06:19
Vive la République!
23

Iowa Gal,

USA 11/03/2009 15:09:27
Well said Highland Mist...Just because Prince Charles promotes it doesn't mean you have to buy it but it doesn't mean other shouldn't. I am a person who breaks out in hives to most "modern medicine" so when dr.s gave up on me I got a nutrition book and empowered myself. It took me ten years but I can at least walk up the stairs now. Leave Prince Charles Alone..you are intitled to your opinion but so is every one else...
24

Joe Macdelta.,

11/03/2009 15:33:37
Charles was talking about fighting poverty the other day, this is probably one of his strategies, if they can sell enough he wont be in poverty, problem solved.
25

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 17:37:13
Considering the outright lies we have been told in other areas of health, what HRH is doing is pretty damn mild. As far as I can make out, he's selling a bottle of stuff made from vegetables and herbs that might make you feel a little bit better.

Compare that if you will with the lies told about smoking. And the laws based upon those lies which seek to discriminate and marginalise. And the propaganda so readily sucked up by the brain dead which sets people against each other.

Once they get rid of that evil bile, I might consider listening to them when they have a go at Prince Charles for marketing something which might actually do people some good.
26

Artemis,

11/03/2009 20:38:46
"Prof Ernst said the prince and his advisers "seem to deliberately ignore science and prefer to rely on 'make believe' and superstition". He added: "Prince Charles contributes to the ill-health of the nation by pretending we can all over-indulge, then take his tincture and be fine again."

but

"The website says the tincture, which contains dandelion and artichoke, is "a food supplement to help eliminate toxins and aid digestion". Users are advised to take the tincture twice a day as a 2.5ml dose in a glass of water. "It is important to follow a varied and balanced diet and a healthy lifestyle," the website adds."

So, the Duchy website says that people should use the product in conjunction with a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle, but the Prof says Charles is encouraging people to over indulge and then use the tincture. Clearly he hasn't bothered to actually read the instructions.
27

weeshooie1,

Wollongong 11/03/2009 21:31:48
HC #13,

Summed it up in one line, Canky :0)
28

Brodric,

12/03/2009 00:14:57
Well said Highland Mist (22). And as Artemis (27) says the professor has obviously not bothered to read the instructions on the website.

More profoundly, how can a professor of herbalism be a professor when he SO obviously doesn't know his plants.

Dandelion has diuretic properties. It is not only in the UK that they were commonly called pee-the-beds; France, Spain and Italy have the same common name for this plant. And it has antioxidant properties.

Artichoke, like dandelion, is also known in ancient medicine for its ability to promote the flow of bile.

As the 'good' professor should well know, plants have made a massive contribution to medicine throughout history - including now - and not only in herbalism.

As for his ridiculous call for someone to prove homeopathy works, well that puts the nail in the coffin for me. Who is this nitwit? He should be sacked. Homeopathy is highly respected and is available on the NHS. The Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital - one of two NHS homeopathic hospitals in the UK - has successfully treated thousands of people over the years.

Lastly, why do people have to be so negative about Prince Charles. I am not a royalist by any manner of means but he seems to me like somebody who really does care about alternative forms of living and looking at quality and traditional means of having a healthy lifestyle. He puts his money where his mouth is!!

By the way no 20, a tincture is alcohol with vegetable (including plants and herbs) or animal or chemical. So where is the misleading? Artichokes are vegetables; dandelions are edible and used as a medicine.

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zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 13/03/2009 23:56:41
"Homeopathy is highly respected and is available on the NHS. The Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital - one of two NHS homeopathic hospitals in the UK - has successfully treated thousands of people over the years."

LOL! That's a good one.
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brianmca3,

auld reekie 13/06/2009 10:03:28
well it comes close to what spike milligan called him
and i cant even quote spike here,due to draconian measures,where every dirty ,sweary wee words,and some that have offended the censors own tiny mind,as all who write here will have noticed when certain correct words to the subject are banned by pc brigade ie fagg-ots as made by the Mr Brain company,heres what was written
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)
banned radio ad as it was seen as offensive when applied to food

 

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