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Published Date: 10 July 2008
By HAMISH MACDONELL
THE SNP campaign for Glasgow East suffered a setback last night when a former SNP MSP used a column in a national newspaper to attack the party's candidate.
Dorothy-Grace Elder, an SNP MSP between 1999 and 2002, claimed John Mason, the Nationalist candidate, had orchestrated a campaign against her.

She said that Mr Mason was the SNP's "Achilles' heel", and added: "He is the colourless man in the shadows, often sporting a bitter expression."

Ms Elder said Mr Mason would not be able to cope with a debate against Margaret Curran, the Labour candidate and claimed Mr Mason had wanted her "run out of" the constituency.

Ms Elder left the SNP in 2002, claiming she had been bullied by leading figures.

An SNP spokeswoman said: "Dorothy-Grace's views in general are out of step and her opinion of the SNP is well known.

"John Mason is a hugely respected councillor and a very popular candidate."



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  • Last Updated: 09 July 2008 9:43 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
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10/07/2008 00:14:27
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Senga Jean,

10/07/2008 00:18:47
I am old enough to remember when Ms Elder was a rational human being and I liked her then.
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Nikostratos,

10/07/2008 00:22:38
Reminds me of Anne widdecombe saying of Michael howard...."there's something of the night about him"
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subrosa,

10/07/2008 00:26:05
Poor Dorothy, I didn't realise she was still so bitter. Not one of your best ideas Dorothy saying this at this particular time.
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10/07/2008 00:26:24
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10/07/2008 00:27:46
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Mogwai Fear Santa,

10/07/2008 00:41:24
Grizelda drove herself out the SNP when she took the huff - the fact that she was in line to get bumped down the Glasgow list for the 2003 elections was entirely coincidental to her doing the off.
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

10/07/2008 01:30:00
Former SNP figure attacks Glasgow East candidate

That headline - is that physical, mental, or just anti Scottish journalism
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Iainbroch,

Moray 10/07/2008 02:38:46
re 8

Take your pick! You did miss one type of attack but it is probably better not to go there, thinking about it will give me a sleepless night?

re 6

Dont expect to read anything here about Curran getting caught in a lie about where she lived the last 20 years either.
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Guga II,

Rockall 10/07/2008 03:45:52
More deliberately biased journalism, a.k.a. propaganda, from the Hootsmon and their card carrying New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North british Branch) members.
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Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

10/07/2008 05:31:36
NEW HEADLINE!

"FORMER LABOUR LEADER ALLEGEDLY TURNS IN GRAVE"

We have just come to discover that the late Labour Leader Keir Hardy has spent the past 11 years spinning in his grave.......................

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Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

10/07/2008 05:32:32
I hope their is justice? I hope all the sandwich shops near the hootsmon have really manky staff and regularl dish up greasers.........
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Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

10/07/2008 05:33:50
A big ,green, thick and creamie topping on their ciabattas!

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Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

10/07/2008 05:35:14
given the hootsmons canteen staff are contract caterers. I reckon the poor pay will make them do that anyway out of voluntary spite or would it be spit.......
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Pilrig.,

Livingston 10/07/2008 05:44:18
Hell hath no fury...
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David MacVicar,

web 10/07/2008 07:37:15
doonhamer

Great post exposing the abysmal Britsman's excrement based editorial policy and same overall journalistic quality.
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ruthie,

alba 10/07/2008 07:39:52
interesting how this "newspaper" runs stories like this but nothing on the lies of Ms Curran (who seems to be a wee bit muddled up about where she lives/works)and her LIEbour party. When will we have some balanced journalism? All these subversive digs at the SNP at every opportunity, planted in there to undermine confidence are getting tiresome. Yet nothing on Mr Marshall and his £500000 expenses -no wonder people don't buy it any more.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 10/07/2008 08:13:28
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LOL
You have to hand it to the natz - they whine when their loopy and outlandish supporters go tonto, they girn when the press reports it. Then they fling some mud just to make themselves feel better. Petty, parochial, deluded cultists....
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Faustus,

10/07/2008 08:19:43
Colourless and in the shadows? Just how Salmond likes his troops ... a party full of sheep!
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john z,

edinburgh 10/07/2008 08:49:33
Biased Scotsman coverage, yet again.. Honestly its like the unionist equivalent of pravda in Scotland.
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Linda,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 08:58:08
By common consent Dorothy Grace is a nutter
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 10/07/2008 09:05:54
I know Doorothy and she was shabbily treated by some in the SNP but she does herself no favours by trying to involve John Mason in this.

I know who was involved and so does Dorothy and John Mason played no significant role.

I'm very disappointed in you Dorothy I thought you were a better and more honest person than this!
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Iain green,

Haddington 10/07/2008 09:09:02
Met her several times; not remotely impressed.
Arrogant; monumentally unpleasant; rude; has the people skills of a whelk; vindictive (once sat listening to her and a.n.other former nat msp slagging off everyone with a pulse - quite disgusting); and talentless.
Barking?
Very probably.
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G,

dundee 10/07/2008 10:25:41
Let's see how Mason does without his minders - he is a liability - I can see the SNP trying to arrange his campaign to limit his opportunities for speech

AS usual the SNPites, unable to tackle the message, attack the messanger!!!

And it is laughable that some (#21 in particular) accuse the media for bias and for not revealing Elder's political background when their councillors and party hacks regularly write to papers without disclosing their party affiliations....
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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 10/07/2008 10:33:38
How can anyone want to vote for or advise others to vote for a woman who doesn't even know where she has been living for the past twenty years?

And how does she get home at night?
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John H,

edinburgh 10/07/2008 11:11:26
Is it not about time that the SNP actually faced up to the fact that most of the manifesto pledges were bare faced lies and are either legally flawed or mainly unworkable. Scotland is on the way to being no more than a European backwater. When all, or nearly all the distilleries are owned by foreigner's, gas and oil are on the way out, there is no real alternative plan for renewable energy we are being led a merry dance by Alex S. Shameless in his outlook but not blameless with his politics of isolation.
A very expensive protest vote indeed along with a fundamentally flawed election.
What a joke this Nation has become.
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Suomi,

Salo,Finland 10/07/2008 11:12:37
I once canvassed in Inverness alongside Dorothy.I found her to be pleasant enough.I don't have a clue why she left the SNP because she appeared to be committed to Scottish independence.The fact that she is reported to have joined the SSP suggests that she still does since that party also supports Scottish independence.I am an SNP supporter but I wish her well in her new party.

The only disapointing thing about this is her personal attack on the SNP candidate in Glasgow East.My perception is that he is the deal candidate for that constituency..He is a highly respected councillor in that area.That view is evidenced by many emails from his constituents who have praised him on thes comment sites recently.I hope that Dorothy learns that the golden rule in politics is never use personal abuse.Rely on arguments about the benefits to constituents that will result from your policies.I hope that the SNP candidate (John Mason) ignores all personal abuse since his party has a proud record of achievement in government,in just over one year,in spite of the limited powers of the Scottish government.
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Miss H,

10/07/2008 11:21:18
19 People usually use the term 'flinging mud' to mean making unsubstantiated allegations. The allegations on David Marshall's expenses are substantiated. The fact that Margaret Curran lives in a posh suburb on the south side of Glasgow when she claimed 2 days ago to have lived in the east end for all of her life is substantiated.

You may say that these things don't matter but they are true so accusing people of flinging mud is wide of the mark.
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Miss H,

10/07/2008 11:25:06
27 I have the advantage over you as I know John Mason and you don't. I am looking forward to the debate which I think will come as a surprise to people like you who are buying into Labour briefing without question. You should really have learned better by now.
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boudica,

Glasgow 10/07/2008 12:36:28
And Alec Salmonds Claiming Expenses of £815.692 ( Not including his paychecks or His FM Expenses ) since 2001 is substaniated to all inclusive I take it he has made claimed over a Million ....did his Family made a Wee earner out of that ?
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boudica,

Glasgow 10/07/2008 12:40:12
Margaret Curran is an Eastend Girl Plain and simple ..no matter were she lays her head at night as for most people they always tell you I was born and Bred in where ever ..even if they go to Australia , Canada , America ..It was in the East End that she learned about Life ..get over it ..as that is all the ammunition you have on the Woman ..it only shows how desperate you all are to find fault with her ..laughable ...
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10/07/2008 12:44:28
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boudica,

Glasgow 10/07/2008 12:51:28
Apologise for spelling errors ..but what a croc you all are ..Wee Eck is cashing in at the tune of over a Million and you can bet his family got some of that ... you go on about an East End Girl and were she lives ..She Lives in Glasgow in a Place a 10min car run from her Old neighborhood and you go on as if she has moved to the Moon ..But as I have said as this is all you have on her ...I doubt she wont lose any sleep over ..and only shows once again George Orwell has the Natz no matter there Origin are all the same ..No use to anyone but their own ilk of sad little men and women who think they are superior to all ...Delusional or what ...
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boudica,

Glasgow 10/07/2008 12:55:33
I wonder if the first question in that Debate will be .."Mr Mason Why did you support the Government when they wanted to halt the SportsScotland relocating to the East End of Glasgow which we all know would go along way to help in the Regenerantion and Boost the Local Economy and of course bring more Employment into the Area ?...
What do you think his answer would be Miss H ..as you know him so well ?
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Suomi,

Salo,Finland 10/07/2008 13:22:52
I couldn't care less about where Margaret Curran lives,whether she tells lies,or in any form of personal abuse.Be careful Boudica about how you present your case.There have been several reports on these comment sites about people being turned of by personal abuse of Alec Salmond and the SNP candidate.John Mason is a very popular councillor,as evidenced by the degree of support from his constituents,and Alec Salmond is a very popular First Minister,as evidenced by frequent surveys of public opinion.He takes one salary anf gives value for money.His constituents are highly satisfied.

As I said earlier,best to stick to issues.My understanding of the SportsScotland issue is that the whole of Scotland benefits,including Glasgow.However,I will leave people with more knowledge about that one to comment.I will also leave John Mason to speak for himself. What I do know is that a minority SNP government,in little more than one year, has delivered many things that are of benefit to residents of North East Glasgow.To name a few,abolishing prescription charges,freezing council tax,reintroducing free education,putting more police on the beat,tackling the booze culture,reducing waiting times within the NHS etc.We could go on and on.Certainly Jimmy Reid,well known Clydeside trade union activist is impressed by what the SNP government is delivering.He sais so yesterdy when supporting the SNP candidate in Glasgow East yesterday.This by election will be won by concentrationg on issues of concern to voters and probably decided by turnout.Personal abuse and innuendo, might make some people feel good,but it wont impress voters.The Scottish elections demonstrated that,last year
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boudica,

Glasgow 10/07/2008 13:43:46
Suomi ...where do you get the Idea that Salmond is popular ? or that Mason is popular ? Delivered what ? exactly ...please dont say Police ..because they have not ..they didnt do their figures right ( something they seem to do with regularity ..so much for Salmond the Great Economist ..it seems he does more more " Creative Accounting" in all his projects )and forgot put in retirement figures to the mix ..as for Jimmy Reid ..funny but this is the first he has been heard of in over 20yrs ..Glasgow Council tax has been frozen for the Last 2 yrs now ..nothing to do with the SNP ..and Suomi ...as I have said ...The SNP did try to stop SportsScotland coming to the East End that is not inuendo that is Pure Fact plain and simple and may I say your comments seem more threatening why is that ..are you telling me that I shouldnt think for myself ? Unlike the Natz ..I do not follow blindly what any politician says or promises ..as for last years Election we are talking the Dodgy Election results arent we another Fact and inuendo ...1 seat Extra the SNP got not 11 not 21... no landslide here for them .other than the Asian vote who left Labour on masse ...their reasons are their own ..another fact .the Vote last year was a Protest Vote and recently people have seen the natz for what they are no different from Nulabour in the Long run ..I`ll say this ..it took around 8yrs for the voter to realise labour were way of course ..it has only took the SNP 1 yr to open the eyes of voters ..So Soumi ..You take care of yourself as I am well able to take care of myself ..so no need for your concern and Souimi ..please I prefer people to speak openly ..no need to try and be subtle ..as you fail miserably in that ...
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boudica,

Glasgow 10/07/2008 13:45:39
Salmond is doing a Good Job of turning People off of himself ..he is often likened to George Galloway ..Good at the Gab but a Chancer through and through ..
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Auckland Arab2,

10/07/2008 14:18:29
#21

Because he can't, hence his deathly silence.

Perhaps twatski has had one turn too many on the Falkirk wheel. Deluded Socialist supporter that he is.
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Miss H,

10/07/2008 14:26:24
Boudica I get the idea that John Mason is poular because he got the biggest personal vote of any councillor in the whole of Glasgow.

Regarding police - there will be 750 additional police officers on the beat throughout Strathclyde Police area within the next few years. That information has gone through every door in Glasgow East. You just look stupid denying it.

As regards the relocation of sportscotland. These are not new jobs Boudica. People already do them. Relocating those jobs would simply mean that staff have to commute from Edinburgh where they live to Glasgow. Adding two to three hours to their working day and increasing congestion. Or maybe not - since you think it takes ten minutes to get from Newlands to Easterhouse perhaps it only takes half an hour in your planet to travel from Edinburgh to Glasgow!

As regards Alex Salmond's expenses - no he does not employ any members of his family. Neither does he run his office from his house. There is no dirt on Salmond - don't you think it would have been found if there was? Silly woman.
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Suomi,

Salo,Finland 10/07/2008 14:30:17
Boudica,I didn't say that you should not think for yourself,only that you should refrain from personal abuse.I learned that lesson during many years of canvassing for the SNP.It doesn't win elections.Best to keep well away from that if you want to win votes

As for the other stuff,people can examine the evidence for themselves and form their own conclusions.I think that Hawkeye the noo already has,since he refers to a very high opinion poll rating for Alec Salmond.I know that things change,but at the moment both Alec Salmond and John Mason have a lot of support.If I were an opponent of John Mason,I would be trying to figure out how to cope with a candidate who has been a popular councillor for 10 years and whoe's party has delivered things that are important to the North East of Glasgow,and are riding high in opinion polls.It would be quite a task.Whatever strategy I developed,it would not be to dismiss Jimmy Reid,who is still held in high esteem by many voters of a certain age.Politics is a hard game and I have also learned that it is best to recognise the strenghts of my opponents.

Actually,I wouldn't bother with this site,very few people are reading it.I only stumbled into it because I have worked alongside Dorothy Grace Elder.In spite of what she is reported to have said,I'm not going to dismiss her either.I don't have time to investigate some of your other points.Maybe somebody else will answer.
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Schot,

10/07/2008 15:59:47
6 proud doonhamer

I personally was dumb-founded when I saw Jimmy Reid on the lunchtime news campaigning for the SNP - surely that is a far bigger story waiting to be told ?
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 10/07/2008 16:27:18
The truth about Margaret Curran. She spent 10 years working in the leafy suburb of Jordanhill whilst commuting from the leafy south side of the city.

The east end did not seem to feature in her daily life.

Exposed for telling porkies this week.
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elizabeth the first ,

10/07/2008 18:45:09
Seems the worms are coming out of the snp woodwork at last,nothing new tho' we all know the bully boy tactics of the snp
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elizabeth the first ,

10/07/2008 19:03:43
It is time we saw our beautiful country through clear eyes and not through the mists of Brigadoon.

"Scotland will thrive as part of the United Kingdom. With our parliament in Holyrood we will control our own domestic destiny and flourish alongside our friends and family in England.

"But separate and alone our economy would wither as businesses flee down south and the parochial prejudices of the Braveheart brigade would eventually crush our famous spirit.
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Mr. Henry Brown Esquire.,

10/07/2008 19:21:57



The SNP leader's success has stemmed primarily from his ability to play the devolution game with consummate skill. Mr Salmond has managed to get both Edinburgh and Westminster to, as he puts it, "dance to a Scottish jig". Witness the stumbling performance last week of Wendy Alexander, the Scottish Labour leader, and Mr Brown, on the question of whether or not Labour is in favour of a referendum on independence.

As for the goal of independence, Salmond is in no rush. He says he plans to launch legislation for a referendum on independence in the Scottish parliament by 2010. But Mr Salmond's real objective is to wait until the Conservatives are back in power in Westminster. Such is the continuing unpopularity of the Tories in Scotland that the SNP would be far more likely to win a referendum in those circumstances.

This newspaper believes that if the Scottish people desire all- out independence, they should have it. There is no sense in keeping the Union together if it lacks popular consent. At the moment, the opinion polls suggest support for going it alone in Scotland is not yet overwhelming. The time would appear not yet to be ripe.

And yet Scotland continues to diverge from England in numerous and significant ways. Mr Salmond has continued the interventionist policies of the devolved Scottish executive in higher education, health and elderly care. In the past year, his administration has scrapped the student "endowment" (the 2,000 fee paid by Scottish students after graduation), ruled out new nuclear power stations and set out ambitious goals on renewable energy. In other fiscally populist measures, Mr Salmond has removed tolls on road bridges and frozen Scottish council tax.

The financial relationship with England looks increasingly contentious. The Treasury's "Barnett formula" for deciding Scotland's funding from Westminster looks more and more unfair given the social benefits that are available in Scotland, but not south of the border. This
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Mr. Henry Brown Esquire.,

10/07/2008 19:23:50
47 Suomi Salo,Finland 10/07/2008 14:30:17

Very well put Sir.


Alex Salmond can look back on his year as Scotland's First Minister with some satisfaction. The SNP leader has used his minority government to maximum effect over the past 12 months and, in doing so, has strengthened his party's support among the Scottish population. Those who predicted that the pressures of office would squeeze the nationalists' popularity have been confounded. Indeed, the difference between Mr Salmond's serene year in Holyrood and the meltdown experienced by his fellow Scot, Gordon Brown, in Downing Street is unmistakable.
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Mr. Henry Brown Esquire.,

10/07/2008 19:24:32
The financial relationship with England looks increasingly contentious. The Treasury's "Barnett formula" for deciding Scotland's funding from Westminster looks more and more unfair given the social benefits that are available in Scotland, but not south of the border. This is all grist to Mr Salmond's mill, of course. The greater the resentment in England at perceived Scottish bias in the public finances grows, the more likely the prospect of independence becomes. At the moment, the SNP leader seems to be in a win-win position.

Things could go wrong for the SNP, of course. There are some glaring contradictions in Mr Salmond's policies, such as promising relief from taxes at the same time as pledging more generous expenditure. How does the SNP intend to secure the long-term future of Scotland's universities without tuition fees? And the executive's recent rejection of a major wind farm planned on the Isle of Lewis poses awkward questions about how Scotland can meet its emission cutting and energy generation targets.

Then there is Mr Salmond himself. He could make some popularity- draining slip-up before he gets his chance to call a referendum. It is not impossible. But such an implosion is what many of his critics were predicting a year ago. Mr Salmond has disappointed them so far. Who would bet against him continuing to do so?
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Mr. Henry Brown Esquire.,

10/07/2008 19:27:58
The SNP today welcomed figures which show First Minister Alex Salmond has recorded a huge lead in approval ratings over his Labour rival Wendy Alexander.

The Nationalist leader was given a plus 53% rating by voters - against minus 22% for the embattled Labour leader, according to poll results released today.

The SNP are also ahead on voting preferences for Holyrood.
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The MRUK poll found the SNP would increase their majority if a Scottish election were held tomorrow, winning 57 seats while Labour would win 44.

The Conservatives would win 16 seats and the Liberal Democrats 12.

According to the results, the SNP are currently polling 39% on the constituency ballot, up 6% from last May, and at 40% of the regional list vote, up nine percentage points.

Labour are on 31% of the constituency vote, down 1% from last year, and at 30% of the regional up 1% on the regional ballot.

Deputy First Minister and SNP Depute Leader Ms Nicola Sturgeon MSP welcomed the findings of the poll She said: "These are fantastic poll ratings for the SNP and the Scottish Government.

"As we approach the anniversary of our first year in office, the poll shows that our fast pace of delivery continues to gain the trust of the people with sky high approval ratings under the leadership of Alex Salmond.

"Alex Salmond's +53% rating demonstrates his outstanding leadership of the Scottish Government. By contrast, Wendy Alexander's leadership is in deep crisis."

Those questioned in the poll were also asked how they thought the Labour and Scottish Government leaders were doing as party leaders.

More than two thirds (70%) said Mr Salmond was doing well, compared to less than a third (30%) for Ms Alexander.

More than half (52%) thought she was doing badly, compared to just 17% for Mr Salmond.

The drop in Ms Alexander's personal popularity comes after a long-running row over a political donation, and as Scottish Labour prepares for its conference in Aviemore la
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Mr. Henry Brown Esquire.,

10/07/2008 19:28:40
The drop in Ms Alexander's personal popularity comes after a long-running row over a political donation, and as Scottish Labour prepares for its conference in Aviemore later this month.

An Electoral Commission probe was prompted by the disclosure last November that Ms Alexander had received £950 from Paul Green, a Jersey-based businessman, for a leadership campaign which resulted in her being elected unopposed.

This was in apparent breach of the law which says donations above £200 must be from UK voters or firms.

It led to the resignation of Labour MSP Charlie Gorden after he admitted blunders over the donation.

The row bubbled on for weeks, then erupted with fresh force on February 1 when Ms Alexander revealed the names of 10 donors, all for sums of just below £1,000.

She said she was doing so after being told by the Holyrood standards commissioner that such details should have been disclosed on Holyrood's register of interests.

But several days later, the Electoral Commission took the decision not to report her to prosecutors over the £950 donation from Mr Green.

Ms Alexander claimed she had been "vindicated".

Ivor Knox, of MRUK Cello, said: "There is no good news for Wendy in this poll.

"The first 10 months of SNP government has clearly strengthened its support"

"On the key issues of the economy, education, health and law and order, far more voters trust Salmond rather than Alexander to look after their interests."

MRUK Cello interviewed 1028 adults across Scotland between 29 February and 9 March.















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A Better Way,

Republic of Scotland 10/07/2008 20:31:40
Boudica, you may be right on your claim that alex salmond claimed whatever amount, and the Nats can counter claim that Tony Blair who adjudicated with Gordon the Moron, now has a property portfolio running at just over £10 million pounds plus a very substantial pension scheme. I am sure we can delve into many more typical Labour theft at the expense of the Scottish Nation.

But can you please explain to me exactly what that has to do with a Scottish Nation wishing to withdraw from a Union that disadvantages us by denying us our right to continue our right to run our own nation.

Funny how you Unionist and the State Media are carefull not to state the actual case for returning Scots Political and Sovereign Rights to run what was and is a democratic process.

I was in a Taxi last Saturday Night and as per usual a bit of a chat led on to more serious matters at his prompting. This 53 year old guys comment was that Scottish Independance was our right. He stated that it was our duty to give our future generations the right to improve the country they live in and own. To create a better Scotland for Scots was his term. I mentioned the drivel that was being forced fed by a scared and biased British Establishment using drones like you.

His comment was that, aye there will be mistakes, and that there was a lot of work ahead when we resign from the Contract of Union, but that wasnt serious as long as it was mistakes that were through honest endeavour and based on the rights of every Scot to have a say on our future, without Londons Bulldust.

No one should ever get sacked for making a mistake if they mean to do the right thing, within reason. The only exception to that is those that dont want to be a positive influence on the success of the company that provides the jobs that feed our families. In this case all I see is Unionists hanging shoite on my people, simply because they are providing a positive option for the future of our land. That makes me even more comm
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/07/2008 20:32:37
Boudica is EXACTLY the sort of person that would vote for any monkey wearing a red rosette.
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Pink Sombrero,

10/07/2008 20:38:37
51. Glad to see Kimba is not still just re-pasting old articles...

"It is time we saw our beautiful country through clear eyes and not through the mists of Brigadoon......."

Susan Dalgety in the Edinburgh Evening News, 2 September 1998
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Senga Jean,

10/07/2008 21:04:14
Boudica is ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZensationally zilly. Slip a wee z in slip a wee associative insult. Slip a wee z lie.And you expect to be taken seriously? Aye right!
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John PM,

Edinburgh 13/07/2008 11:11:10
Here's the greatest chance in a generation to bring Brown down and move the agenda forward for independence, instead GCE thinks I'll knive the SNP candidate and save the Brits. Gee thanks.

She was a great columnist in her time and she wrote well but if this is her political judgement - it sucks.

When bitterness takes over it is sad to see.
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Ronaldinho Glavin,

18/07/2008 11:02:58
Here's the greatest chance in a generation to bring Brown down and move the agenda forward for independence... by putting the Tories into power and waiting for the wave of revulsion.

1979, 1979, 1979, 1979

Not that I think the SNP would be responsible for this, but their delusion that the best way to achieve independence is to have a Tory landslide is deluded. A tory landslide could also see a rise in support in Scotland.
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scotstoun_voter,

glasgow 21/07/2008 22:55:49
makes me laugh how glasgow east branch of zanu pf try to go on about the first ministers expenses lol ever looked into what mr mrashall claimed for a office at home theres a joke right away how many mps work from there home any at all???
will ms curran and her zanu pf lot stop telling porkies "lives in east end" aye right hen naughty fibs just like ms alexanders donations porkie pies from lab pf (they are showing mugaby up)

 

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