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Published Date: 11 January 2009
THE Duke of Sutherland last night suggested he is not "doing that well" out of a deal that will see him gain £100m and avoid a huge tax bill by selling two Titian masterpieces to the nation.
The duke, in an exclusive interview with Scotland on Sunday, claimed he could have received much more for the works – Diana And Actaeon and Diana And Callisto – had he sold them on the open market.

Frances Ronald Egerton, the seventh duke, also v
ented his frustration at the time taken to complete the deal, which he said he expects to finalise shortly once the legal paperwork has been completed. The sale comes after a high-profile campaign by Britain's art establishment to raise the £50m for Diana And Actaeon. Diana And Callisto is expected to be sold to the nation for a similar sum in 2013.

The National Gallery in London, which will share the paintings with the National Galleries of Scotland on a five-year rotating basis, has donated £12.5m, the National Heritage Memorial Fund has given £10m and the Art Fund has added £1m. The Scottish Government has said it has made a "significant funding pledge" to help save the masterpiece from being lost to a private collector, but has so far refused to confirm reports that it has put up £17.5m.

By selling to a public collection, the duke, who has an estimated fortune of £230m, will avoid inheritance and capital gains tax on Diana And Actaeon, which is regarded as one of the finest Renaissance works in private hands.

The picture is to be sold to the nation under a private treaty sale, a scheme that offers tax breaks to encourage private owners of "pre-eminent" works to sell them to public galleries. Experts have estimated that the painting could have fetched £150m if it was auctioned privately, a scenario that would have left Sutherland with a tax bill of £60m.

Sutherland said: "From the valuations and things being bandied about, I don't know if I'm doing that well (out of the sale]. I think the nation is probably doing pretty well.

"I'm sure that the figure is a good deal lower than it would have been. It is £50m for the first of them and there was a price in August of £300m for the two of them (on the open market]."

The Duke said he hoped the deal would be signed in a "week or two", but added: "I have been frustrated by the delays. I think we first started talking about this two years ago. It is unfortunate that it has dragged along to this unhelpful time economically. I honestly don't know why it has dragged along."

Asked what he will do with the money, the duke said: "There is not any particular project. It is really balancing up the assets."

Labour politicians have questioned why one of the country's richest men should be receiving so much public money for paintings he inherited. But the Duke responded: "I can't see where class warfare comes to it. They are pictures. They are either worth saving so they remain in the National Gallery in Edinburgh or they are not. That's the only question."

But his suggestion that the paintings were a bargain drew an angry response from art experts and politicians. Professor Barry Fantoni, the artist and art critic, said: "What's an extra million to someone like him? It is obscene. He didn't buy it. It has been in his family a long time and it is going to earn him a lot of money."

Ian Davidson, the Labour MP for Glasgow South West, said: "At this time of economic difficulty, I think it is an obscene amount of money. During a year when we are trying to attract the descendents of Scots back to this country, they will come home to discover that the Duke of Sutherland is getting nearly £20m from the SNP Government. They will wonder what kind of Scotland they are coming back to."

The paintings have been in Sutherland's family for 220 years and have been on loan to the National Galleries of Scotland since 1945. Painted in 1559, they have never been separated.





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  • Last Updated: 10 January 2009 7:31 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
 
1

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

11/01/2009 00:12:40
'Diane and Acteon' would be by far the most significant painting to appear on the art market in decades if it went up for sale. Given that the current most expensive old master painting-a comparatively minor Rubens- went for 49.5 million pounds, it's not impossible that this work could soar past 100 million.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 11/01/2009 00:20:05
Stuff the rotten old Duke and his rotten old paintings. Actually they are quite good, but that's not the point. We have more than enough works of art, many are in cold storage and haven't been seen for years. There is no way the Duke of Sutherland (spit) should see a goddam penny of public money.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

11/01/2009 00:25:42
Firsty it's not a 'rotten old painting', it's one of the greatest paintings in the world. the works in storage are there, rather than on display, for a good reason. I almost wish this painting would go to auction so that people in Scotland can see just how important this painting is.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 11/01/2009 00:41:10
3 No that is your taste. It isn't everyone's. If the art world want to keep it so much then sell off so many works of art that they already have and don't exhibit.
5

Rollo Tommasi,

11/01/2009 00:44:26
If this really is one of the greatest paintings in the world, it presumably means that other paintings in the National Galleries' collections are less great.

Surely funding for this painting could come from selling off some of the less significant works if necessary. Especially since, as Observer says, many are in cold storage anyway.
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Rollo Tommasi,

11/01/2009 00:45:37
Ahh Observer - you beat me to the punch!
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11/01/2009 01:39:27
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Gorach,

Oban 11/01/2009 02:24:56
The Scottish government should not give one penny to this man.

The mention of his title always evoked great disgust
with my grandfather and his fellow highlanders.
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John Cameron,

St Andrews 11/01/2009 08:07:20
What is it about the Dukes of Sutherland? They have such a lack of judgement and self-perception as to be a thing of wonder. Their name has been mud in Scotland for centuries and this latest whine is not going to improve the situation.
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donald,

glasgow 11/01/2009 08:19:45
Porn Painting Pips Poverty Payments.
11

GMCD,

11/01/2009 09:39:12
He should learn to keep his gob shut...we've been keepin his property safe for him for years and now he is getting a large dosh of our money without having to do any leg-work...tell hin to stuff it...after he has paid for the safe storage and preservation of his painting...
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Jmhzx,

brighton 11/01/2009 09:45:54
Just nationalise the darn things. They are clearly too important to lose - and if we can nationalise banks, we can nationalise anything.

However, how many of us even new that the NGS had these paintings before this all blew up? If NGS had promoted them during the 64 years that it held them, there may have been much more public support.

NGS still have a long way to go in engaging the masses with Scotland's art.
13

Ju@nkerr.,

11/01/2009 09:52:51
Aye right. Considering his family made their money of the backs of hard working scots they ethnically cleansed i have no sympathy. He should forfeit his estate as reapration to the people of Scotland him and the other so called "nobler classes"
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Budgie,

Renfrew 11/01/2009 11:35:35
No.2 Newton_Invented_Gravity

I too, wish it would go to auction. Taxpayers have more than enough to contend with.
Ju@nkerr (14) has the right idea regarding reparation and forfeiture.
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15

bumpkin,

11/01/2009 11:47:16
he should be tried for crimes against humanity, and the evicted people given their land back
16

subrosa,

11/01/2009 12:31:24
We, the taxpayers, can't insist the Dukie sends his painting to auction, but we can do our best to let the Scottish government know how unhappy we are with the decision to assist in the purchase of the thing.

The man's had this painting, along with others, stored and insured at taxpayers expense for years. Let him go to the 'free-market' he's so keen on and then his peers will judge the value of it.
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11/01/2009 14:36:20
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Ju@nkerr.,

11/01/2009 15:28:53
#19 - Of course we are not saying that and well you know. He has however benefited greatly from the pictures. He should give a big thanks as gratitude too the people and decendants of the families cleared and be grateful he had an expensive and pretty picture to console his family , rather than the scenes they inflicted of beatings, enforced squalor, poor grazings, and deportation on the families who led the way to enable them to buy it of their backs and hard work.

Cynicus that was a pee poor defence of the indefensible.
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­­Rufus-T-Firefly­,

11/01/2009 16:07:44
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Churchill W.,

11/01/2009 17:25:34
If Salmond said that, in an independent Scotland, he would confiscate the holdings of the ignoble "Duke" then I would vote for the SNP.
Sutherland and his like are an anachronism and Scotland can do without them.
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11/01/2009 19:20:13
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Churchill W.,

11/01/2009 19:20:51
When did this discredited "nobleman" decide that he needed an extra £100 million or, so?
The guy is a parasite. If he had any decency, any at all, he would know that he already has enough money and donate the paintings to The NGS. But, he has no decency, so, he will squeeze the hard pressed Scottish people for as much as he can get.

Sutherland you are nothing but an offensive bottyburp!
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Fi,

National nonsense, not treasure 11/01/2009 20:03:20
What, exactly, has the nation gained in this instance?

We've had these pictures on long term loan from the family for decades, on public display. The family probably couldn't afford the preservative and restorative attention given to the pieces by the National Galleries over the years... why not bill them and make it a £ neutral transaction?

Since the Scotsman deigned to give links, here are the pictures in question. Decide for yourselves if you tax £ has been well spent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tizian_001.jpg
http://www.abcgallery.com/T/titian/titian72.html
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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 11/01/2009 22:54:55
Amazing. The duke is said to be worth £230M. Although this gets you an exclusive interview with SoS, it would also buy ~ 10 cruise missiles. And makes the duke a world power.

Which makes the County of Sutherland a terrorist state to be reckoned with. When there's the means to back it up, Scots can always, were always convinced that we're getting a good deal. Unless this is history.
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muppetfinder,

12/01/2009 00:23:42
let him sell them pay the £60m in tax and everyone one wins. he gets some more money, the scts don't spend any money and we get rid off his paintings and let other works be shown.

 

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