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Published Date:
04 November 2007
RELATIVES of the dead will be asked to give doctors a reason not to harvest their loved ones' organs under "presumed consent" transplant plans being developed for Scotland.
Under the proposed scheme, families will be asked if they know of any reason why their loved ones might have objected to having his or her organs used. If they do not know any such reasons, the organs will be made available for transplant.

The pl
anned reform is being put forward by Labour public health spokesman Dr Richard Simpson, a former GP, and a long-term campaigner for presumed consent. It marks a major change to the current law under which medics have to ask relatives if they agree to their relatives' organs being used.

It is being considered as a middle way between ensuring more organs are harvested while at the same time meeting the concerns of families who fear that, under a new law, they would have no say over whether or not their loved one had their organs removed.

It comes amid growing pressure for a reform of the law amid warnings grievously ill people are having to wait months or even years for a suitable organ to be made available.

Last night both Scottish Labour leader Wendy Alexander and Scottish Lib Dem leader Nicol Stephen added their support for a change in the law, following the public backing of Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon and First Minister Alex Salmond.

Alexander said: "I have carried an organ donation card since 1993. Organ donation plays a hugely importantly role in the health system and I am in favour of presumed consent."

A spokesman for Stephen added: "He is in favour of it. However, he hopes that MSPs will get a free vote."

Their support comes after this newspaper revealed that Scotland's Chief Medical Officer, Dr Harry Burns, had declared his own support for a change in the law.

Of the new proposal, Simpson said: "The crucial factor is that you continue to ask the family but you reverse the question. Rather than ask whether or not it will be okay, you ask whether or not they know of any reason why the person may have objected. It is critical to maintain respect for the family."

The system is currently used in Spain where, since it was introduced, there has been a 7% increase in organ availability.

Labour MSP George Foulkes, who has put forward a private members' bill calling for presumed consent, said: "I am happy to consider ways in which we can deal with all the concerns to enable this to get through quickly."

He added: "They say that if you do it in these terms, it makes it easier for dealing with families. I am trying to increase the number of donations but at the same time respecting the wishes of families."

The change also received cautious backing from Scottish Government sources last night.

A Government source said: "What everybody would agree with is that it is important that if we are to bring any changes to this law then it has to carry very broad consensus. That is why building in strong safeguards in order to get people's confidence in any proposed new system is of crucial importance."



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  • Last Updated: 03 November 2007 7:18 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Organ donation
 
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh born and bred 04/11/2007 01:09:52

"Organ donor law change moves closer"
'Aye-Right-then', So does 'jekyll and hyde'
Tell you what?, watch you 'back' on a dark night walk home and 'For-Gods-Sake', keep out of the Hospital!, because your organs, might become mine, thankyou very much!
I dont even have to ask, Do I ??

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh born and bred 04/11/2007 01:12:34

Free 'Body-Parts'! Now we Know what our lifes are worth!!
'FA'

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh born and bred 04/11/2007 01:47:22

"They want me dead in Detroit...
they want me dead in St. Louis...
they want me dead up in Denver...
New York, L.A., they want me dead...
they want me dead on the east coast...
down south they want me dead...
they want me dead in the Bahamas...
they want me dead in Lebanon check it"
Wait a minute, ho'd up
Don't shut my f**kin coffin yet, I'm still alive
And fulla life, like a beehive
I know you really want to see me drop into the earth
You wanted that since my birth,

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh born and bred 04/11/2007 02:05:28
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh born and bred 04/11/2007 02:06:33

Meet your 'DOOM' IT WILL BE NIGH!!
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/341000.html

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh born and bred 04/11/2007 02:08:23

Her dismembered body was found in a field, AND SO WILL YOURS!

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Guga II,

Rockall 04/11/2007 03:50:00

If there is, as alleged, so much support for a change in the law, then presumably all these people already carry organ donor cards, and there is, therefore, no need to change the law.

In any event, what right has any politician got to try and tell us what will happen to our body? Just who do they think they are? I know they think they own us body and soul, but they don't.

There are many people who object to this attempt at body-snatching in principle, and there are also many who object to it because of their beliefs. However, the politicians are going to try and force us on it, and give us little choice because all the political parties seem to agree. This, of course, was how we got lumbered with the EC.

It is also leaving it open for doctors and hospitals to be less inclined to bother resuscitating anyone if they have a chance to get some useful organs from them. Also, if this comes into effect, they will have a large surplus of organs. What happens to them? Will they be sold to the American market at a fat profit?

Does anyone actually trust doctors these days? Remember Shipman.

Anyway, I reiterate my first point. If so many are allegedly in favour of it, and presumably carry organ donor cards, then there is no need to try and steal our bodies.

Say NO to body-snatching.

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an interested party,

04/11/2007 08:07:13

the public at large dont care overly much on the issue, when questioned (you know those types that stop for pollsters in the street or dont just hang up on them when they phone and are considered to be representative) but are cajoled into saying the believe organ donation is probably a good thing and they haven't considered it much.

mostly its driven by doctors who recruit families of the recently deceased who may have survived if x or y organ had be around, not that they would stoop to using emotions to further there own transplant careers.

bear in mind now when a doctor looks at you with an admiring it may not be for your skin deep beauty

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an interested party,

04/11/2007 08:08:05

admiring glance*

10

Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 10:04:04

Jeez Charles ... paranoid much???? You're off the meds again, aren't you??

Nurse Ratched? Nurse Ratched?? Charlie-boy's gone bananas again!!! I only asked him to throw his hand in when he got cr*p cards! And then Bert asked him how his heart's been and Billy asked if his bladder was still acting up!!

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 04/11/2007 10:39:04

~10, 'Dinny-get-smart' with me BW!
Its them Dodgy herbs you keep feeding me, so I suggest you look at yer own back door, before 'slagging' me off! :-0
Its YOUR organs that are 'pickled' not mine!
Worry? yes! because unlike you BW, I am in a condition of excellence, my organs are of 'high Demand' :-D
(Well DYW thinks so)

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 12:04:47

Nurse? Nurse!!! Charles is getting worse. He's seriously deluded now. Nurse! Nurse! I'm a professional, get me out of here! I don't like sharing a cell ... I mean ... ward with a nutter!! Nurse! Nurse!! Please unlock the door ... Charles is doing a Houdini with that nice new jacket you gave him with all the shiny buckles!! NURSE!!!!!

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 15:57:47

I just want to say that if any bits of me are still working after I pop my clogs, any poor scmuck in need of an organ is welcome to them ... as long as their name isn't Hammond!

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T. MacIntosh,

Toronto 04/11/2007 22:11:13

It is now clear english deviate is also a body snatcher.A simple matter to write a line in will such that "ye'll no be making soup outta me english cannibal"(they already eat their own afterbirth).
This body snatcher law is a complete violation of the scanctity of the person and if english tried it here they could be prosecuted disrespect to a dead body.Mutilation for profit is all it is.I wouldn't donate the peanuts out of my passages to the likes of this.
Strange.unionist rag does article just before little bonaparte has the gaul to presume Scotland belongs to english and not the Scots' population which rag attempted to muzzle at it's little bonaparte propaganda diatribes.We now know who unionist rag handlers are certainly.The free speech laws exist only if they serve the motives of these parasites who tell the same big lies the same way hundreds of years to increasingly suspicious population who is smarter,reasonably sober and clear of narcotics in spite of them,and better educated than most of these midgebrains.
The writing is on wall,english.Even the labour puppets had to be whipped in showup at little bonaparte farce at Holyrood.Tories might eventually be connected to a convenient firearms arrest a day before the stink follows the stink cloud we literally see at this unionist rag and it's muzzle try.A publicity stunt we suspect,arranged by rag handlers,where they only need be voted out of Scotland.English tried much the same circus monkey act here and ended up paying the smae price for the same narcotics game thatcher was caught at.Same big lies as well to propaganda targets who do not believe a word they say.If they want organs they can go dig up a monkey since that is where the match will be to english.they won't find it at Scotland,or here.If we want to make a donation we will,otherwise get back to your familiars at the zoo,english.

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 23:16:22

I am here now to warn everybody that Charles Linskaill escaped the hospital today. He is on the loose. His DYW has been warned and you should all lock your doors and windows. He's not so much dangerous as he is a serial leg-humper. It gets wearing after a few seconds.

I knew it was a mistake letting him watch Halloween!

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 04/11/2007 23:36:13

'HA-HA' BW, 'very-funny'!, you trying to get smart?
Or as my DYW says, 'you-want-a-slap'? ;-((
Its NOT over BW, just you wait!

23

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 04/11/2007 23:40:25

La-la-la-la...
Wonder boy, life's just begun.
Turn your sorrow into wonder
Dream alone, don't sigh, don't groan
Life is only what you wonder.
Day is as light as your brightest dreams,
Night is as dark as you feel it ought to be.
Time is as fast as the slowest thing,
Life is only...

Wonder boy,
Wonder boy.
Everybody is looking for the sun.
People strain their eyes to see,
But I see you and you see me,
And ain't that wonder?

Wonder boy, some mother's son,
Life is full of work and blunder.
Easy go, life is not real,
Life is only what you conjure.

Wonder boy,
And the world is joy, every single day.
It's the real McCoy,
Wonder boy.
Everybody is looking for the sun.
People strain their eyes to see,
But I see you and you see me,
And ain't that wonder?

Wonder boy, some mother's son,
Turn your sorrow into wonder
Dream alone, go have your fun.
Life is only...
Life is only...
Life is only...

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 04/11/2007 23:52:04

High above the mucky muck castle made of clouds there sits wonderboy
sitting oh so proudly.
Not much to say
when your high above the mucky muck.
yeah. yeah
Wonderboy what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy won't you take me far away from the mucky muck now?

Now its time for me to tell you about young nasty man, archrival and nemesis of wonderboy
with powers comprable to wonderboy.
What powers you ask? I dont know how bout the power of flight.
That do anything for ya?
That's levitation holmes?
How bout the power to kill a yak?
From 200 yards away with mind bullets!
that's telekenesis Kyle!
How bout the power...to move you?

the history of wonderboy and young nastyman.
A secret to be told.
A gold chest to be bold and blasting forth in three part harmony.
Yeah!

Wonderboy what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy won't you take me far away from that mucky muck now?
Well wonderboy and young nastyman joined forces, they formed a band the likes of which had never been seen!
and they called themselves tenacious d.
THAT'S RIGHT! Me and KG (that's me)
we're now tenacious d.
Come fly with me fly!

Wonderboy what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy won't you take me far away from the mucky muck. now!
Oh take my hand young nastyman.
Fly bring out your broad sword.
Theres the hydra slice his throat!
Grab his scrote!
You take the high road.
I'll take the low.
There the crevace, fill it with your mighty jucie

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 05/11/2007 00:01:07

The only 'Weired-Tattie' around here, is you BW! :-D

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Boy Wonder,

05/11/2007 07:18:28

#26. Please don't struggle when they find you, Charles ... and they will. We don't don't want you getting hurt. We like you!!! :)))


 

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