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Published Date: 06 September 2008
TONIGHT, thousands of young men and women in Scotland will gather at a friend's flat to let their hair down.
Some will cut rock star poses while playing Guitar Hero on the PlayStation. Others will dance themselves silly to the White Stripes, Franz Ferdinand or even Abba.

More still will bring round a curry and a DVD, or simply gather on the sofa to watch
the international football highlights.

The common factor that will link the vast majority of these little gatherings, from Lerwick to Dumfries? Alcohol.

A trip to the "offie" en route to party venues will be an essential part of their evening. Some will enjoy no more than a couple of glasses of wine over a meal. Others will raise their sights a bit higher, drinking for the sole purpose of having a good time and, well, getting drunk.

But a radical proposal from the Scottish Government would put paid to this rite of passage, or at least seriously curtail it.

Ministers want to raise the legal age limit for purchasing alcohol in off-licences and supermarkets from 18 to 21, as part of a crackdown on Scotland's "booze culture".

Other measures under consideration include setting a minimum price for alcoholic drinks, slapping a "social responsibility" surcharge on supermarkets and banning drink promotions such as "three-for-two" offers.

A consultation on the proposals ends next week, after which it will be decided which to include in the new Criminal Justice and Licensing Bill announced earlier this week by Alex Salmond, the First Minister.

Ministers claim that raising the age for off-sales of alcohol, with better enforcement, will reduce "excessive" consumption among young people.

There is little dispute that excessive drinking in Scotland is a massive social ill. Alcohol misuse in Scotland is estimated to cost £2.25 billion a year – £500 for every adult.

Alcohol-related visits to Scottish hospitals have increased by almost 50 per cent over the past decade. The link between alcohol and crime, particularly knife crime, is also indisputable. Almost half of Scottish prisoners last year said they were drunk at the time of the offence.

Despite the obvious scale of the problem, no single SNP policy has attracted as much criticism, with the possible exception of the local income tax.

A coalition of critics has formed to brand the proposal an unjustifiable infringement of civil liberties. The sheer breadth of the opposition has forced ministers to think long and hard about whether this is a sensible proposal to reduce binge drinking among young people, or an unjustifiable invasion into personal freedom.

A petition against it on the Scottish Parliament's website has attracted 3,200 names, including most university student associations, the Scottish Youth Parliament and trade bodies such as the Scottish Grocers' Association.

A group on Facebook, the social networking website, set up to oppose the ban has attracted more than 3,000 members.

Opposition politicians are largely united against the move. Tory leader Annabel Goldie said: "We will continue to lead the opposition to the ludicrous plans to criminalise a responsible, 20-year-old adult who wants to buy a bottle of wine to take home and celebrate the birth of his baby."

Police faced with the consequences of binge-drinking on Friday and Saturday nights largely support the plan.

But speak to officers individually and they recognise civil liberty concerns shared by so many.

Chief inspector Micky Collins, from Dumfries and Galloway Constabulary, told The Scotsman: "We have no problem with enforcing this law if it comes about. But I think there might difficulties on a society level. Do we really want to prevent a 19-year-old from buying a whisky gift-pack for his dad's birthday?

"The bigger problem we have is underage drinking at the moment."

A crackdown by his force over the summer led to "vast" amounts of alcohol being recovered from children as young as 12, he revealed.

Not surprisingly, the student community is up in arms at the idea.

Liam Burns, deputy president of the National Union of Students Scotland, says the measure will unfairly penalise the many young people who drink responsibly.

"The vast majority of young people who drink don't cause any anti-social behaviour problems," he says.

Mr Burns claims the image of students getting routinely "wasted" on cheap booze, to the detriment of their education and health, is an outmoded stereotype.

"Most students simply can't afford to drink all the time. Nor do they have the time. The average student is also working 20 hours to pay their way through university."

Rather than target 18-21-year-olds, there should be better enforcement of existing laws, he adds.

Some supermarkets are taking action by requiring people who look under 21 to provide ID to prove they are old enough to buy alcohol.

Putting civil liberties issues to one side, would the alcohol sales ban actually achieve its objective?

Government sources claim a number of pilots schemes have delivered "spectacular" results.

In the Fife town of Cupar, calls to police about antisocial crimes such as vandalism dropped by around 60 per cent, while the number of offences, including assaults, fell by nearly 45 per cent during a four-week experiment.

The scheme, under which every town trader agreed not to sell under-21s alcohol after 4pm on Fridays and Saturdays, was modelled on a similarly successful pilot in Armadale in West Lothian.

It was particularly aimed at stopping over-18s buying alcohol for underage drinkers.

One Edinburgh parent, who has a 15-year-old son, told The Scotsman that banning alcohol to under-21s would make it that bit harder for children to buy drink in corner shops and supermarkets.

"Children can easily get their hands on fake ID on the internet," she says. "The current ban simply isn't working."

However, studies have shown that binge-drinking remains high in other countries that have adopted a minimum drinking age of 21.

The USA's National Survey on Drug Use and Health in 2006 showed that about 10.8 million persons aged 12 to 20 (nearly 30 per cent of the age group) reported drinking alcohol in the previous month, and approximately 7.2 million (19 per cent) were binge drinkers

Even Alcohol Focus Scotland, an ardent fan of the Scottish Government's binge-drinking crackdown, believes other steps would be more effective.

Jack Law, chief executive, says: "Alcohol Focus Scotland gives its support to this proposal but there are other proposals in the government's paper, particularly minimum pricing and improved enforcement of existing age limits, which could achieve the same goals and have stronger evidence bases and we would support these as the highest priority measures."





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  • Last Updated: 06 September 2008 1:01 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Team Scotland,

FC UK No! 06/09/2008 01:52:32

In civilised countries those people who are not alcoholics have the civil liberty to take their children out on a Saturday night to enjoy the atmosphere in their town centres without the risk of being assaulted, robbed or vomited on.
2

Fanling,

Hong Kong 06/09/2008 02:09:27
#1
You are right. That means most if not all countries south and east of Scotland (and England). At least those not yet invaded by the stag-night weekend braindead out "for a laff".
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 06/09/2008 02:19:26
It is total 'balderdash' not to let an Adult purchase alcohol between 18-21years old!

They can be married, have 2.2 children, a respectable job. and own a house with mortgage,

If you tried this on me when I was in this age group, it would not have made any difference!

Infact I would get my hands on all the Booze I could,..

..JUST TO SPITE YOU! and you would have a,..

..RIOT ON YOUR HANDS!!

'LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!

Kick the Dogmatic Legislating 'Muppet's' where it hurts!
4

Guga II,

Rockall 06/09/2008 03:27:32
You can legally marry at sixteen, and you can be sent to fight in an illegal war, as well as legal ones, when you're eighteen, and enter into legal contracts; but they want to stop people buying booze till they're twenty-one. What a load of utter garbage.

Why don't they just enforce exisiting legislation as regards underage drinking and public disorder, then they wouldn't have to dream up yet more control-freak laws.
5

Argyll on line,

Inveraray 06/09/2008 05:55:08
Is there no end to the lengths this wretched blatt will go to try to damage the SNP?
6

radge dug,

06/09/2008 07:37:36
Said the cop:
Do we really want to prevent a 19-year-old from buying a whisky gift-pack for his dad's birthday?

Why stop there? What about those who want to buy smack or cocaine for daddy? Legalise that too?

Will the world stop in the 19 year old has to bu poor old daddy something else rather than whisky?
7

Mikey,

06/09/2008 08:43:49
Guga II: Why don't they just enforce exisiting legislation as regards underage drinking and public disorder, then they wouldn't have to dream up yet more control-freak laws.

Exactly! That's what I've been saying all along! We don't need a raft of new laws, only the will to enforce the ones we already have!
8

drunken proffet,

Tassy 06/09/2008 08:50:16
#6 OK where is this 19 year old that buys his old man a bottle of whisky? In your dreams. You slip him twenty quid and you get a fish supper and a couple of red cans, and no change. I am all for increasing the tax on booze but allowing old guys like myself to buy whisky and tobacco from the chemists in brown paper bags at a horrendous discount. I mean we deserve it, we made the world what it is today.
9

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 06/09/2008 09:17:14
#7

Exactly. The authorities are either incapable of, or disinterested in, enforcing the current age limit so just what magic formula is going to ensure that the 21 yo age limit is enforced.

Once again this is legislation for the sake of being seen to do something rather than legislation that is intended to actually do anything.
10

Calum Crubag,

06/09/2008 09:32:27
#9 - but then again, current laws and police don't stop the drug trade. Should ALL drugs therefor be legal?

Where do you draw the line?
11

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 06/09/2008 09:54:22
#10
My point exactly. The illegal drug trade exists because current laws are not properly enforced and because the rewards far outweigh the inconvenience of being caught and sentenced. (Of course, deterrent sentencing is a violation of the "sentencee's" Human Rights - and we can't have that!).

Much of the drugs market in the UK directly finances terrorism and, if the police had any desire to do something about it, they have very draconian powers at their disposal.

You draw the line (as you put it) where legitimate activity becomes illegal activity - and you enforce existing laws rather than using legislation to grab political headlines.
12

james 1st,

hamilton nz 06/09/2008 12:03:49
no need to change the law, stop underage drinkers

1/ retailers who sell to underage drinkers lose their lisence for a first offence no warnings whatsoever

2/ one thousand pound fine for any adult who supplies alchahol to underage drinkers, parents who supply their own children at home for consumption at home would be exempt, but not so if the booze was consumed other than athome.
seizure of assets would be allowed if the cash was not paid within 24 hours

3/ any club pub, hotel disco nightclub etc supplyng underage drinkers lose thei liscence first offence, no warnings

4/ any adult who supplies premises for underage drinking fined as above

underage drinking is anincredibly large problem and must be solved its bad in a lot of places but seems just so much worse in scotland
scots seem unable to hold booze and behave
13

ThePeter,

Glasgae 06/09/2008 12:52:22
All anyone needs to do is look at prohibition in America - it did NOT work

Then look at Europe where they are a lot "looser" on alcohol then in this country and do not have the same problems.

I may not know what the right answer is, but I do know what is being suggested is totally the WRONG answer...
14

fife runner,

06/09/2008 12:59:43
#3 Charles just shows how immature so called adults are then if they can do all that and still want to binge
15

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 06/09/2008 14:47:30
Dreary puritanism. This is the most joyless and repressive government since civil life was ruled by Kirk Sessions.
16

Active Sassenach,

Luton, England 06/09/2008 16:42:14
It is brazen, but anomalous. The returning soldier, aged 20, can tell his friend, aged 22, about fighting the Taliban and how two of his fellow troopers were killed and one lost both his legs when an improvised explosive device was used against their ferret and the radio jammer missed the frequency. His friend can drink a pint of beer while he hears this but the soldier can only drink orange juice.

Nonetheless, binge drinking is a problem. Alcohol consumption to excess is crippling the health of the whole United Kingdom on a grand scale. Could an age limit of 21 not be tried from 1 January 2009 with a 2-year sunset clause? So it would have to be renewed at the end of 2010 based on evidence of how it has worked.

Is it clear from the research that the problems are caused by drinkers aged between 18 and 21? Or is it more likely that the more serious problems are among many under the existing legal age of 18 or already over the new age of 21?

17

J4cko,

06/09/2008 22:28:23
#16 Active Sassenach

A ferret?

The british army do not use these vehicles anymore, infact they havent since the 1970's and early 80's.

Even if they did, you say "two of his fellow troopers were killed and another lost both legs" - a ferret only has a crew of two, a gunner/commander and a driver.

I know its only an example and your point is made, but people make comments and try to sound like an expert when in reality, they are talking rubbish.

 

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