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Published Date: 24 February 2008
SCOTTISH dentists are warning that patients' costs will rise and there will be hundreds fewer dentists because of new hygiene rules.
They say regulations requiring them to have separate facilities for cleaning equipment will mean surgeries will have to be closed to be turned into sterilisation rooms.

Dentists in buildings which cannot be altered may have to close because of
the costs of moving, they warn. One dentist in Inverness has already shut up shop.

Some dentists want more money to help them alter their surgeries. Others say the regulations – brought in to counter the risk of CJD being caught from dental instruments – should be shelved. They claim there is little evidence the illness can be transmitted through equipment.

The Scottish Government is offering help to alter surgeries, and said regulations had been drawn up on clinical advice.

Dentists must comply with the new rules by the end of 2009. The hygiene regulations were drawn up after the Glennie Report, which was published in 2001. It called for new procedures for cleaning equipment to minimise the chance of transmitting the prions which carry CJD, the human variant of mad cow disease.

Jan Overmere, a dentist at Kyle of Lochalsh who also runs surgeries at Lochcarron and Gairloch, said: "In order to comply with the report, I will have to establish a dedicated decontamination room, separate from my surgery room, with at least three sinks and with more equipment.

"In Lochcarron, I would not be able to create a separate room and so would be forced to close the surgery.

"I'm not the only person in this kind of situation. There are hundreds of dentists working out of small premises where they don't have the space to set up extra rooms. They will have to spend a lot of money or just shut – which is what some older dentists will opt to do because they will decide it's just not worth it anymore."

Dentists say it will typically cost about £50,000 to refit surgeries under the new rules but they are being offered about £5,000 on average to help with the changes.

Inverness dentist Douglas Fraser decided to shut his practice because of the costs.

Andrew Lamb, the Scottish director for the British Dental Association, said: "We are in talks with the Government in order to clarify the timescale and the money which will be available for conversion."

The Scottish Government said ministers were making extra money available.



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  • Last Updated: 23 February 2008 7:02 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: NHS Dentistry
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 24/02/2008 03:34:08
I really DO feel sorry for our Dentists, not that you can get one these days unless you are'
'Rockefeller'
Our Governments gave up on them years ago, now this!
Abandoned by the NHS and worse!

It WONT BE THE..'UNITED KINGDOM' SOON

It will be......'BUGS BUNNY LAND'

The whole Dental Scenario in the UK is
Atrocious...Absolutely...Atrocious!!
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 24/02/2008 04:57:40
'Rockefeller'..'Plenty Rich'..and wearing a..'Thong'!

;-)))))))))))))))))))))

Maybe he should wear that..'Thong'..round his..'Teeth'

:-DDDDDDDDDDDDD
3

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 24/02/2008 09:05:13
Hey there Charles,

What can one say except: Socialized Medicine sucks!

We're fighting both Hillary and Obama here in the States, to keep from going the way of the Dodo on UHC (Universal Health Care).

When one compares survival rates for various types of cancer, Brits are dying at MUCH higher rates than are we Americans.

The Health Care may be 'free' (which it isn't, as you Brits are taxed into paupery), but only if you can get it and you don't have to wait too long to get in to receive it.

I'm physically impaired and in great need of health care; but were I in Great Britain, I'd still be in the queue, to get the medical help I need. Canada is the same thing: I lived there during the first year of my Master's Program.

At that time there were 750,000 people living in Calgary. Calgary had at that time, only 2 MRI machines to serve three-quarters of a million people. Spokane, Washington, just a few hundred miles Southwest, had a pop. of 500,000 and had 7 MRI machines.

Do the math.

If I have an emergency (my Angina moves into a Coronary), I will get all the best care possible, though if I survive, I'll have a whale of a bill waiting for me (for which I cannot pay).

But at least I'll be alive.

The same of 'being alive' cannot be said for those waiting for care they could get in a NON-UHC system.

While this is separate from the specifics of the dentistry issue (which I also need, but can't pay for that either), it speaks to the same problem: bureaucrats thinking they know better than we, that they are somehow superior to us.

Freedom isn't free and neither is health care, no matter how many politicians say it is.

I fear that you Brits are too far gone down the Socialist Road, to ever recover, sans a major and violent rebuke to the system itself.

I doubt that will ever happen.

Cheers from the Rockies
4

Patrick/Edinburgh,

Here and There 24/02/2008 10:44:31

Then there is the recent story of an arrest outside Washington D.C. Where a latino was practicing denistry in his home without a license to other non English speaking sorts out of his home. Things can go from bad to worse.
5

Spunktrumpet,

embra 24/02/2008 10:57:01
what tosh
6

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 24/02/2008 11:05:01
Hello Patrick,


Horror stories abound, but the one in the Scotsman that 10% of Brits are practicing Do-It-Yourself-Dentistry, because they can't get in to see an NHS dentist, is I believe at the top of the list.

You folks pay highwayman's taxes to the Politicians and Bureaucrats, and part of those taxes are supposed to provide you with access to dentists.

We Americans are not (yet, horror of horrors) in that same boat.

You're the ones being fleeced. Non-English speakers are being hosed because most of them that would go to such a fake, are Illegals. They shouldn't be here in the first place, so I have no problem with them going to someone that is also acting illegally.

Cheers from the Rockies
7

ex-labour,

24/02/2008 17:02:26
What's a dentist?
8

DrP,

Calgary, Alberta 24/02/2008 21:01:58
Neanderthal75.
Pity your private health care system can't fix a shortage of neurones.
Life expectancy is greater in Canada than the US. Your health care system (if you can even call it a system)is a complete, expensive failure.
Boneheads like you give us another reason to despise the USA.
9

DrP,

Calgary, Alberta, Canada 24/02/2008 21:42:21
Sorry, I can't contain myself.
Neanderthal75 just doesn't have a clue.
Living and practising in Calgary since 1982, not once has any of my patients been denied timely care. Specifically, there has never been a delay in obtaining an MRI scan when indicated.
Look at trailer park Americans when interviewed after a natural disaster. Black or absent teeth! Unhealthy teeth are a major risk factor for heart disease.
People like Neanderthal just make me angry because they are so willfully stupid, and cannot see beyond their 'free market' crap. You're not free!. You're in hock to big business, most especially your dishonest pharmaceutical companies.
10

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24/02/2008 23:18:16
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Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 25/02/2008 02:33:53
Hey Dr. P,

Go ahead and rant all you want my dear Mis-Speller!

The FACT is that the numbers do NOT lie: compare the number of people in Calgary vs the number in Spokane and then do the math with the number of MRI's in each city.

Your statement defies both logic and mathematics.

I can't remember whether it was the Herald or the Sun, but they used to do some SCATHING articles on just how long the waits were for some serious illnesses: ovarian cancer was the one that really hit home for so many of us living there at that time (I have 5 sisters). 5-6 WEEKS AFTER physical evidence presented itself of something wrong (pain, blood discharge, etc.) and seeing a GP, until active cancer treatment began.

Further, allow me to point out to you my dear Hater (rather childish of you, isn't it?), that when you compare the survival rates of Canadians with life threatening illnesses to that of Americans, many more Americans are surviving those illness 5 years down the road, than are there Canadian counterparts.

Pap smears are another area where Canada falls SERIOUSLY behind the USA: only 58% of Canadian women are getting regular pap smears, and that's because of budgetary constraints.

This directly leads to greater incidents of cancer amongst Canadian women and the MUCH lower survival rates compared to their American counterparts.

Lastly, allow me to point out a simple fact of life: Canada has developed and produced a paltry number of new drugs compared to the number developed and produced in the USA. It takes about 1.2 BILLION dollars to bring a new and useful drug to market, and the Free Market allows that to take place at a much greater pace than in any other nations or economic system: because the rewards are greater.

I remember the debate in 1991 in the Canadian Parliament: 47 BILLION Canadian dollars had been allocated to completely meet the needs of the entire Canadian Health Care System.

However, the debate was ongoing yet again in Parliament, b
12

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 25/02/2008 02:37:46
Hey Dr. P CONT,

However, the debate was ongoing yet again in Parliament, because there was a 15 BILLION dollar SHORTFALL to meet 25 Million Canadian's needs and pay for the Universal Health Care System.

Despite all that money being spent, the system was STILL not meeting people's catastrophic needs: this is the reason why so many Canadians head to the USA, for heart surgeries, cancer surgeries and treatments, organ transplants, etc.

You go right ahead and hate me and my country all you want: you're just another poor excuse for a Canadian suffering from American Envy. My Canadian friends are not lacking as are you: they're proud of their country, but do NOT feel the need to either lie about the shortcomings of Canada or the Canadian health care system.

A pity that someone who represents themselves as an educated professional, a doctor no less, resorts to the kind of tantrum that a 5 year old would perform: and all because you can't face the FACT that the Canadian Health Care System, like those of Great Britain, Germany, and others, are abysmal failures.

Cheers from the Rockies
13

DrP,

Calgary 29/02/2008 02:41:45
Neanderthal75.
Am I jealous of the USA?
Well not really. Today the NYT wrote that 1/100 of adult Americans is in jail. What a fabulous society.
You're wrong about private health care, and you have an anencephalic President. Good luck.
Cheers from the Canadian Rockies

 

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