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1

Jerry Springer,

28/06/2009 23:10:41
Oh Dear, Salmond will be on the phone first thing to the head of BBC Scotland. How dare they concentrate their activities on the world famous music festival of Glastonbury.

Next year they should ban coverage of Glastonbury and force everyone to watch BBC Alba which can show all the James Bond movies in Gaelic.
2

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 00:10:42
I think it would be very good if all the James Bond movies were dubbed into Gaelic on BBC Alba.
3

DialMforMurdoX,

29/06/2009 00:19:19
#1&2 How cringe inducing you two are. The world's oldest continually running film festival happening in your own country and your content with a three minute piece on Reporting Scotland. Pathetic. Look at the television coverage of Berlin, Venice, Cannes and the plethora of Festivals across Europe large and small.
4

Vivas,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 00:21:12
Hard to believe that anyone could hate their own country so much but #1 and #2 do it with such pride.

Nutters.
5

DialMforMurdoX,

29/06/2009 00:22:45
Oh incidentally, the chap that won the best British film award is David Bowie's son. A film journalist might have known that...
6

Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 00:23:34
4 DialMforMurdoX,29/06/2009 00:19:19
#1&2 How cringe inducing you two are. The world's oldest continually running film festival happening in your own country and your content with a three minute piece on Reporting Scotland.
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I never said I was content with a 3 minute piece on Reporting Scotland.

Three minutes is far too long.
7

Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 00:25:31
5 Vivas,Edinburgh 29/06/2009 00:21:12
Hard to believe that anyone could hate their own country so much but #1 and #2 do it with such pride.

Nutters.
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Yes of course.

Because I would rather watch Glastonbury that means I hate my own country.

As you put so eloquently .....Nutter.
8

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:25:45
‘England won the world cup in 1966’

- it’s the BBC catchphrase

Go Sean Whoo oo oo oo!
9

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:26:42
Jerry Springer + sex pervert - hello!
10

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:28:09
Jerry Springer sooks joob joobs in hell!
11

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:28:49
Go ahead Jerry make my day!
12

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:29:37
Of all the comments on all the comment boards around the world Jerry Spring ends up on ours!
13

Abel Magwitch,

29/06/2009 00:29:54
Sir Sean: shurely the person in charge of EIFF publicity could have made a few discreet phone calls to his/her contacts in BBC Scotland, and alert them to something important that would be happening in Edinburgh at the end of June.

If this was in fact done, and yet the BBC pointedly did NOT respond, here is a case of major discrimination. Let us have the story from the inside before we start loading the guns.
14

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:30:28
Quite Frankly Jerry Springer - I don’t give a damn!
15

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:31:53
Jerry Springer - phone home!
16

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:33:01
Jerry Schpringer works for schmersh!
17

DialMforMurdoX,

29/06/2009 00:39:39
#7 "Three minutes is far too long."

Jerry, we're talking about television coverage of the EIFF not the average time it takes you to spoff all over your screen.
18

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 00:40:49
I said at #2 - "I think it would be very good if all the James Bond movies were dubbed into Gaelic on BBC Alba" and I get it said of me that I am cringe inducing and hate my country.

The nationalist fans - and I call them fans because thay are more like football or Oasis fans than people who can think for themselves - just hurl vile abuse when they see the names of people they perceive to be the enemy without any thought at all.

The way to cover a film festival is to show films, same as the way to cover a pop festival is to show performances. The BBC is showing lots of performances from Glastonbury. Good. Saves me from the mud and drugs and whining teenagers.

I seriously doubt if the rights owners of films shown in the festival are going to let the BBC show new release films. I certainly don't want to see film industry pheckers prattling on about their industry, even if they're Sir Sean of Bermuda.
19

lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:48:38
Fifi la bonbon - you’re right - Square go NOW!
20

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 00:49:54
I presume that the person posting as "Jerry Springers" - note the addditional S - is a fake. That means some cybernat has taken the trouble to create a new identity and post scatology, in an attempt to advance the interests of Mister Salmond and his gruesome crew.

Fought an' died for!
21

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 00:50:52
I've seen Entourage - I know what goes on at Cannes.
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2009 00:52:51
There is no such thing as peaceful reform - Look at IRAQ and the WMD case - look at IRAN - look at Bosnia - look at the third reich - look at the highland clearances - why waste time - lets all just get down to it - the world loves reform through violence!
23

DialMforMurdoX,

29/06/2009 00:54:46
#19 pathetic excuse Fi.

No festival in the world televises the feature films they are showing. They do however, review them, discuss them with cast and crew and televise animations, shorts and documentaries. They also work with home broadcasters and play cleared films for retrospectives etcetera

So yes your comments were cringe inducing.
24

Jambo Number 1,

29/06/2009 01:01:55
I am a commited Scottish Nationalist but, sorry Sir Sean, you had sampled a few to many shandies today and most in the audience would agree that you seemed much the worse for wear.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 01:03:49
#34 - how was it cringe inducing to suggest that feature films be dubbed into Gaelic and shown on BBC Alba? It would be both entertaining and educational. They do it for Postman Pat and Bob the Builder, why not the Bond oeuvre?

You didn't think about what you posted, you just slagged me off because it was me.


As for my later comment. After you had attacked me, not before so don't try that excuse, I was comparing the broadcasting of the Glastonbury festival for many, many hours, with broadcasting films, the direct equivalent. Good television. I have to say I am not interested in people talking about films they saw, rather than showing the films they saw so I can make up my own mind. Bad television.

I can read film reviews if I want to, but I won't watch Edinburgh trendies and film industry ouanqaires talking amongst themselves. That probably means I hate my country in your mad tartan world.
26

Brianwci,

29/06/2009 01:18:10
About time someone of the stature of Sir Sean spoke out about the disgusting anti Scottish bias of the BBC.

It's so obvious only a complete fool or a British Nationalist bigot can't see it.

Anything English from the Chelsea Flower Show to Glastonbury gets the full treatment year in and year out.

Anything Scottish too often gets cursory treatment at best. To have Sir Sean appearing at the Edinburgh film Festival without so much as BBC report never mind the usual London style sycophancy to similar London events shows 100% bias and contempt for Scotland by London.

It can only be superseded by the gang of British Nationalists like Taylor and Campbell at BBC Scotland who accept it and say nothing, in typical London Labour mould.

Without question it's time Scotland had control of the Scottish license fee.

27

Canada,

CANADA 29/06/2009 01:34:18
Settle down Scotland. The elders speak. Know your place. Children should be seen and not heard.
28

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 01:41:13
1
Jerry Springer

What a desperately sad little to$$er you are. Every news story has to be twisted into an attack on Scotland, Salmond or the SNP. Doesn't seem to matter how much of a fool you make of yourself in the process.

Less intellectually crippled individuals will acknowledge the truth and sense in what Connery says.And if the First Minister does follow up on this with representations to the BBC, it is no more than he should be doing.

29

Jo Flo,

no festival in site 29/06/2009 01:41:24
yeah, sorry ruf and david mad, I auto thought.

That boy is a nutter and needs reported.

On subject. well said Sean!

I understand what folk are saying about getting Glasto (boke) coverage.
This dude wrote a thread on the Mailonline

"Three things. Firstly, this is an extravagant waste of taxpayer's money. Secondly, I've seen some of the BBC presenters of Glastonbury, their presentation skills were utter rubbish and their interviewing skills were dire. And lastly, why is this (weekend) event being broadcast on BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, Radio 1, 6 Music, 5 Live, an interactive channel and a dedicated website? Does this seem a bit over the top to anyone?
- Aethelred the Unready, The Kingdom of the South Saxons, 28/6/2009 07:45"

So not only disparity it was all croap anyway


30

Edward,

29/06/2009 01:52:40
Sean Connery is spot on with his remarks
The BBC never bothered with the International Film Festival when it was in September, so its not surprising it cant be bothered when its in June
The BBC are making a lame excuse about Glastonbury being more important. Fact EIFF is on from the 17th, Glastonbury was on from 24th, So SIX days the EIFF was the only event going on!!
The BBC are happy to spend Licence Payers money sending crews to the Cannes Film Festival and the Vienna Film Festival. Buit when the EIFF is right on their doorstep they cant be bothered.
Its says more about how the BBC think and view things
31

Edward,

29/06/2009 01:54:56
The farcical thing is the BBC could have had a special FILM 2009 with Jonathon Ross cover the SIX Days prior to Glastonbury.But they didnt
The fact is FILM 2009 which claims to be made by BBC Scotland and comes out of the BBC Scotland budget is not actually made in Scotland!
32

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 02:32:09
33
Cynicus in Exile

Come now! Nobody can deny that Glastonbury is a hugely significant event. In terms of audience size I would expect it to get a huge amount of coverage from the BBC. This is not about Glastonbury being covered. It is about the EIFF being ignored.

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 02:45:11

'Hang your Horses' For a Mo!

The Edinburgh Film Festival, is all about foreign Films Not Scottish, and certainly Not about Edinburgh!

We Know the BBC has bigger audiences to cater for!

Coverage of the New-Year Activities has been abysmal for years, but we are used to it now!

Sir Sean should 'Moan' about the Country he has Chosen to Live in, and NOT the one He Left Behind!

34

Dumbill,

offshore 29/06/2009 02:45:19
What does Connery expect? Does he really believe that if Scotland gets independence,the film festival will get more coverage?
35

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 02:49:34

He should 'just go back home', and leave us alone!, as he chose to do,..years ago!

36

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 02:51:44
35
Charles Linskaill

"The Edinburgh Film Festival, is all about foreign Films..."

The clue's in the name, you dullard! Edinburgh INTERNATIONAL Film Festival.

37

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 02:54:15
35
Charles Linskaill

"Sir Sean should 'Moan' about the Country he has Chosen to Live in, and NOT the one He Left Behind!"

He was not "moaning" about Scotland, you lackwit! He was talking about the BBC.

38

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 02:56:19
37
Charles Linskaill

"He should 'just go back home', and leave us alone!, as he chose to do,..years ago!"

Give it a rest! He is a citizen of Scotland. He can live wherever he wants and it doesn't alter that fact.

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 03:26:38

He does not Live Here, He is a 'once was' NOT, 'now is'.


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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/06/2009 05:39:53
407 BBC bottom feeders to the Glasto-bore is an insult to Scottish taxpayers in itself. But to deliberately ignore Sir Sean's cine-fest is as cynical as it is predictable from the London-based broadcast bureaucracy,
But what do you expect from the outfit that has suddenly discovered that Andy Murray is "British."
These idiots could give the Iranian state media a few lessons on how to manipulate the message for an oppressive and corrupt regime bent on preserving the status quo at all costs. What's next banning Scottish cell phone videos and Twitters?
C'mon the referendum.
41

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 29/06/2009 05:40:48
Glastonbury - 407 Staff and 111 hours of programming.

Edinburgh - No Staff and 3 minutes.

Just further evidence if any was needed about why the BBC is irrelevant to Scotland. Just glad I don't have to pay the silly license fee.

They should really call it what it is.

The London Cultural Elite Tax - A tax on tellies to keep the Fat Oxbridge Liberal Arts Swine in vintage champagne.
42

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 29/06/2009 05:48:59
# 41 Chuck

"He does not Live Here"

No doubt the thought of having to send money every year to the toff scroungers at the BBC was what drove him into exile, that's our Sean, man of principle.

43

Russell M,

Stirling 29/06/2009 07:13:17
By resorting to "Argumentum ad Hominem" those who are against Scotland's independence weaken their own position. Thank you.
44

cabrach loon,

Inverness 29/06/2009 07:14:22
Well said Sean. BBC as a national thing should promote culture first popularity second. It does not need to compete because it screws cash out of all whether they watch it or not. It should first and foremost be excellent and cultured and educational with impartial reporting of news.
BBC Scotland seems shoddy compared with BBC Wales!
But first they must stop paying tossers like Ross, Robinson etc. huge sums, there are plenty of other talented people who are happy to work for less and have a slice of bread rather than cake. Again they do not need to worry about viwing figures - just quality!
45

Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Australia 29/06/2009 07:34:34
Whilst we are on the subject of films I finally got to see SEACHD THE INACCESSABLE PINNACLE which is the first ever Scottish Gaelic film, it was totally ignored by BAFTA as they said it did not fit into any category, I would recommend this highly significant film to anyone especially Sir Sean......have you seen it Charles?

http://www.seachd.com/
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Letters From Muscat,

edinburgh 29/06/2009 07:47:18
The proportion of coverage at Glastonbury does seem a bit over the top... over 300 technicians etc. mind you, they send plenty of talent up to the other festivals, fringe etc, but they could certainly improve their coverage, and balance it out a bit. Sorry, I'm not terribly interested in some of these way out films, prefer the book festival myself, but each to his/ her own i suppose...
47

Kwitie,

London 29/06/2009 08:04:49
I noted that BBC Scotland will cover T in the Park so no doubt it will only be on BBC Scotland.
Glastonbury - BBC UK wide
T in the Park - will it be the same.
Sportscene - Scotland only
Match of the Day - UK wide.
Why don't they just abolish the pretence and call it the English Broadcasting Corporation.
48

john z,

edinburgh 29/06/2009 08:12:30
9% of license revenue comes from Scotland. Just 3% is actually spent here.

Yet another english union 'benefit'.

Well done Sir Sean for having the testicles to publicly call this what it is.

If this hacks you off (and it should), then write to the BBC in London (not BBC Scotland as they have no power).

The EBC was not content to send 400+ people to Glastonbury, they also sent their political correspondent Andrew Marr. You really couldn't make it up.

Even aside from all that, Glastonbury is NOT the only music festival in England and T in the Park is not the only festival in Scotland.

It seems from recent comments made by the EBC management to the Scottish Government that unless you keep comlaining, they think people don't mind.

Like I said, if you are angry, write to your MP, and the management of the EBC.

This really is a f****** disgrace.
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john z,

edinburgh 29/06/2009 08:19:13
Oh, and by the way, Glastonbury this year ain't that great, It's full of has beens. Now most of these I could miss, although to be fair there are some quality exceptions. But in reality, apart from the EBC hype, Glastonbury is NOT the best music festival in England or Scotland this year.

I think the EBC really still think that the word 'Glastonbury' sounds cool - down with the yoof...etc...

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Linda,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 08:44:03
The case for a Scottish Broadcasting Corporation is overwhelming. Another benefit of independence.

Agree with above T in the Park has better vibes and more current acts than Glastonbury
51

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 29/06/2009 08:45:13
BBC Strathclyde are so in love with their hideious new surroundings on the Clyde that they can't bring themselves to venture east beyond the Kingston Bridge.
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dunedin bully wee 1877,

29/06/2009 08:46:03
The EIFF is an event of international significance, attracting an audience from all around the world and receives coverage throughout Europe, USA and even Japan, but is curiously all but ignored here.

On the sporting front, the Scotland A rugby squad recently won the IRB Nations Cup in Bucharest, our first silverware for a number of years, but yet this event hardly gained even a mention on the EBC.

BBC Alba is a step in the right direction but is only available to those with a satellite receiver.
It should be a priority to have this channel broadcast on the “freeview” medium and allow it to reach a greater audience.

As far as Glastonbury is concerned, I did enjoy some of the coverage but it did include a lot of eminently missable dross, and I would question the value for money obtained by the licence payer.
53

Hector the Red,

29/06/2009 08:47:08
The highlight of Glastonbury was when 2 cluesless numpties were interviewing the guys from Spinal Tap, they got on to the topic of Bruce Springsteen, and asked them if they met him or the band, they said they hadn't met Springsteen but spoke to some of the members of the E-Street Band and went on to say "they call him the Employer now!". needless to say the interviewers never got it and looked somewhat confused.
If that's the best they can come up with then thank goodness they weren't at Edinburgh........."So tell me Ridley, Alien...what is that about?"........pathetic
54

MacFloyd,

Union Kon 29/06/2009 08:51:13
Anyone in any doubt about BBC impartiality ought to have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=556FEKoVd-w

Salmond holds his own, but for Auntie beeb to parody Scotland's elected leader with the cartoon is shocking.
55

gus1940,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 08:52:40
The only thing BBC Weegie is intersted is effing football.
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A Crofter,

Ex-pat Arce 29/06/2009 08:57:43
#51 - "Oh, and by the way, Glastonbury this year ain't that great, It's full of has beens."

In complete contrast to Lord Pusssshy, of course!
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Willie Mor,

29/06/2009 09:13:00
the comments about the BBC's lack of coverage are absolutely right.

And this is what happens when you have a London and South focused broadcaster who traditionally spends only 3 or 4% of it's revenue in Scotland.

Such neglect does Scotland down and is another example of why Scotland should have it's own broadcasting organisation funded by income raised in Scotland.
58

reincarnated,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 09:13:18
If he was drunk, the drinks will have been free.

He could peel an orange in his pocket wearing boxing gloves.
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fat lord prodder,

somewhere in alba 29/06/2009 09:15:07
wasnt glastonbury the hippies graveyard,? there was a load of festival sites in the 70s,radio 1 would record the artists and do a special on a sunday night
chelsea flower,horse of the year,crufts,wimbledon,cricket,golf,and every major sports event was shown on bbc
yet something close to home,not worth bothering as prob no fancy expenses can be had from being in edinburgh
60

fat lord prodder,

somewhere in alba 29/06/2009 09:18:12
#57 well it looks like we wont be seeing those 2 tv hoggers this year,as no tv deal is done yet
if it wasnt rangers or celtic at your home ground,bbc wasnt interested
the late tom hart through the tv cameras out of easter road,cant remember what his reason was,prob because the OF derby was the highlighted match and edinburgh derby was ignored by the BBC Weegie
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Stan Butler,

29/06/2009 09:25:22
55 MacFloyd


'Salmond holds his own'


That's one way of putting it.

I'm just surprised he knows where to find it.


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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 09:48:49
It's the news that gets me. I have to sit through half an hour of proposed changes to the English education system, completely irrelevant to me, and how the cricket is going, etc, before getting a brief overview of what is happening "wherever you are", which is apparently Glasgow or Edinburgh. BBC Scotland should produce their own main news for broadcast in Scotland at 18:00, followed by a cut down version of the UK news.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 09:50:53
53 dunedin bully wee 1877,29/06/2009 08:46:03
On the sporting front, the Scotland A rugby squad recently won the IRB Nations Cup in Bucharest, our first silverware for a number of years, but yet this event hardly gained even a mention on the EBC.
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The who won the what?

Should have been headline news eh Bully Boy?

I am still annoyed that the Scottish Tiddlywinks champions did not get any coverage on the main BBC news last night.
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EdwinB,

29/06/2009 09:54:52
'I'm just surprised he knows where to find it.'

Oh come on - surely reaching it is the main problem.

Entirely predictable thread but if it's true (as is said above) that the festival only got three minutes on Reporting Scotland, then surely the real problem is with Reporting Scotland. Think of all the useless 'news' items we hear.

Hasn't there been coverage on Radio 4 (have missed it if so)?







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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 09:56:01
63 Lianachan,Highlands 29/06/2009 09:48:49
BBC Scotland should produce their own main news for broadcast in Scotland at 18:00, followed by a cut down version of the UK news.
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Why would we want that?

It would be vastly inferior to what we get at the moment and of course a waste of licence payers money.

Do we really want a national news program from Scotland that continually has the sound cutting out, that continually pans to the wrong camera and continually employs presenters who can't speak 2 sentences without fluffing their lines?
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 10:02:19
#66 What makes you think it would be like that? Seems like the usual blanket anti-Scottish stance from you. The current 6 o'clock news from the BBC is, apart from reports on world wide issues, almost all entirely irrelevant to the overwhelming majority of the population of Scotland. This is using up time that could be put to better use reporting news from our own country.
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ecosseman,

FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA 29/06/2009 10:03:58
THE BBC ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES IN LONDON

THEY DONT GIVE A DOT ABOUT SCOTLAND

JUST BECAUSE THE DUMB LABOUR SUPPORTERS THINK THATS OK TO HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND,THE SNP THINK OTHERWISE.

THIS CONSTANT PROPAGANDA AGAINST SCOTLAND MUST BE STOPPED.

PROPAGANDA SHOULD BE MADE ILLEGAL AGAINST ITS OWN PEOPLE.

WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA

BBC SCOTLAND SHOULD HANG THEIR HEAD IN SHAME!

ROLL ON THE ELECTION!
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Darien,

Panama 29/06/2009 10:14:11
The BBC treats Scotland as nothing more than a regional joke.

That's what happens when a country depends on the TV and media services provided by another country.

Scotland badly needs to get rid of the EBC.
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Liz,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 10:14:20
Surely the point is that BBC Scotland (or STV) could not be *rsed to cover this event so why on earth should anyone else. Film premiers and festivals are intrinsically boring unless you are here to watch the films.


I agree there has been overkill on the Glastonbury coverage but what exactly is Sir Sean wanting the BBC to broadcast here? At least at Glastonbury they can broadcast live perfomances from all kind of music that should appeal to everyone. What would we get from the film festival?

And #48 Sportscene is only shown in Scotland because it is rubbish coverage of a rubbish league. Most of my friends (both Scots and English) much prefer watching Match of the Day.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 10:24:19
67 Lianachan,Highlands 29/06/2009 10:02:19
#66 What makes you think it would be like that? Seems like the usual blanket anti-Scottish stance from you. The current 6 o'clock news from the BBC is, apart from reports on world wide issues, almost all entirely irrelevant to the overwhelming majority of the population of Scotland. This is using up time that could be put to better use reporting news from our own country.
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BUT...................We get Reporting Scotland at 18:30 each night.

Does that not give you what you want?
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29/06/2009 10:25:45
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29/06/2009 10:26:55
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 10:30:15
#73 Good lord, no - Reporting Scotland needs to be replaced with a new Scottish news broadcast at 6pm, a proper one. My point isn't about that, though, it's about being subjected to entirely irrelevant news. Reports on reforms of the Spanish education system are just as relevant to me as similar reports from our southern neighbours. I'm as interested in the progress of the Bolivian subbuteo champion as I am the English cricket or football teams.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 10:32:39
#74 Charles Linksaill,Edinburgh 29/06/2009 10:25:45


Get your own moniker you fake.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 10:34:09
76 Lianachan,Highlands 29/06/2009 10:30:15
#73 Good lord, no - Reporting Scotland needs to be replaced with a new Scottish news broadcast at 6pm, a proper one. My point isn't about that, though, it's about being subjected to entirely irrelevant news. Reports on reforms of the Spanish education system are just as relevant to me as similar reports from our southern neighbours. I'm as interested in the progress of the Bolivian subbuteo champion as I am the English cricket or football teams.
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Ahhh with you now.

You are Anti-English.

You should have just said so up front.
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 10:39:27
#78 Au contraire, I am not anti-English or anti-any nation. I just fail to see why I should be subjected to entirely irrelevant news. Can you explain why the English school system is more relevant to me in the Scottish Highlands than the Spanish one, for example, or why I should be made to hear all about it? How is that anti-English, anyway? Time spent boring Scotland to tears with such reports could be better spent with a broader and more comprehensive Scottish news programme. That's my point, which I'm sure even you must appreciate.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 10:42:13
Jerry

Why is it anti-English to say that reforms of the English education system are as relevant as the Spanish reforms? Scotland's education system is devolved, so it is really an irrelevance to those living in Scotland.

I don't want to read about SATS being under threat. Who cares? Not I. Maybe you do if you live in England.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 10:42:46
#79

Maybe because the English school system is similar to ours?

Maybe because the story is a British story and we are all British?

Maybe because we share a common language?

I could take this argument to its logical conclusion and ask, 'why should I be subjected to news stories about schools in the Highlands'? I live in Edinburgh so it has no interest to me.

I think I will start campaigning for an Edinburgh version of the national news.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 10:44:33
I remember last year when the headlines on BBC were "Teachers threaten to strike". Yep. It was in England & Wales. Irrelevant.
When Scottish teachers threatened this the headline was "Scottish teachers threaten to strike".
This was presumably in case viewers in England got confused.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 10:49:37
81

"Maybe because the English school system is similar to ours?"

Absolute rubbish sir. Same exams? Same class sizes?
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Lianachan,

HIghlands 29/06/2009 10:52:28
#81

"Maybe because the English school system is similar to ours?"
So what? They are completely separate from each other.

"Maybe because the story is a British story and we are all British?"
More Scots now report their nationality as "Scottish" than "British", as even the BBC have been discussing at great length recently. I'll give you that tenuous link, though - it can receive some coverage in the shorter "wherever you're not" part of the news which reports on UK matters for anybody interested.

"Maybe because we share a common language?"
So do the USA, Canada, Egypt, etc.. Should we hear all about their education systems, support their football teams?

'why should I be subjected to news stories about schools in the Highlands'?
Schools in the Highlands are part of the same system as schools in Edinburgh, so there is considerably bit more relevance there (if not interest to many lowlanders).

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Tartan Bond,

29/06/2009 11:22:55
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I would rather watch Neil Young any day than Sean Connery; Neil Young is a far better actor.
What right has Connery to dictate what the BBC shows, he is a tax exile who does not live in the UK? Connery only comes to the UK when he wants something.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 11:23:26
"wife beater Sir Sean Connery"

I must have missed the court case. Link please.
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Edward,

29/06/2009 11:31:37
'The BBC responded by insisting the two events could not be compared and said the film festival had been covered well on its news bulletins'
Highly condesending! Fact No one was comparing a Film Festival with a Music Festival
The point was the woeful coverage of an International Film Festival in Scotland. There has bee little or no coverage on the BBC's National news bulletins and complete zip on BBC World. When the Cannes Festival is on, we are we informed on all media outlets of the BBC
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Chief King Bonga,

29/06/2009 11:39:05
Lee John,
Google Barbra Walters interviewing the the old ham talking about it being OK to "Sshlap", a woman, "but no closed fist". Eh !! behind closed doors Lee John,
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Liz,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 11:40:04
#74
What is discrimating about what I said? Scottish football is largely rubbish and many Scots are happy to admit that.
Many of the worlds greatest footballers play in the English Premier League, in fact very few of the players are even English so it is a perfect show to watch up here.

#86 - and this is very tiresome old arguement that is not even true. At last years Olympics Chris Hoy was referred to as Scottish far more than he was ever British and so far at Wimbledon there could be no doubting that Murray is Scottish. He also happens to be British so can be described as both.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 11:41:25
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Court case? Thought not.
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Edward,

29/06/2009 11:43:21
The EIFF was from the 17th, why no proper coverage?
The BBC have renaged (though not surprising) about giving better covaerage of events in Scotland
The BBC excuse that they will be covering the Edinburgh Festival later in the year is a lame excuse
Its all part of the English is better doctrine that the BBC keep adhering to!
Events covered by the BBC
The Proms
Wimbeldon
Glastonbury
Cannes
Cricket
More Cricket
Yet even more Cricket
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Chief King Bonga,

29/06/2009 11:44:39
91

We need independence asap.

Well hallelujah to that Jerry!

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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 11:47:12
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Lee John

"Court case? Thought not."

There was no court case. The reference is to a rather silly remark Connery made in an interview about 40 years ago. He, and the rest of us, have moved on since then. But there are some misbegotten creatures who will grasp at anything in their anti-Scottish fervour.

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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 11:50:08
#91 The Scottish premier league is pretty dull, to be honest. Same every year - the Sharks and the Jets duke it out for first and second, a handful of teams fight for European places and everybody else tries to keep their backsides out of the relegation spot.

Compare that with the excellent season we saw in Division 1, which finished with only 8 points between 2nd place and 8th place.
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Chief King Bonga,

29/06/2009 11:50:28
Lee John.
Out of the five hundred or so MPs who have had their snouts in the trough, how many court cases will there be, one or two, five or ten ??? so by your logic, the rest are innocent then !!
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Chief King Bonga,

29/06/2009 12:00:51
Electric Hermit, you need to come out of your grotto more often, he said it in 87, and confirmed that he still agreed with the remark in 2007, though he has never been convicted of beating his wife. Its on Google, it must be true.

FYI,I like Scots.

Poor Diane.

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malcyh,

29/06/2009 12:06:46
Poor old Sir Sean - Once you stay here and pay your taxes here I will listen. Until then keep your opinion to yourself
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Chief King Bonga,

29/06/2009 12:07:17
"And anyway, more TV stations in the world broadcast an Old Firm game than any english game", Have you been drinking Jerry ?
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Dorian,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 12:11:01
#1 I saw you at the Highland Show this weekend, what a nice sty you had. Looked like you enjoyed wallowing and rooting around in your own excrament.
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DialMforMurdoX,

29/06/2009 12:14:41
The excuse that us blasted porridge wo*s will have the delights of T in the Park to watch is of no great comfort.

A huge proportion of those who have already played Glastonbury will later condescend to drop into Scotchland and churn out their regulation mince once again. Therefore, the coverage from BBC Scotland of the same artists and the same banging choons is of limited value to the BBC Scotland license payer, who has already witnessed the same spectacle at Glastonbury.

Frank Ferdinand, The Yeah Yeah Yeah's, Nick Cave, Lady Gaga, Lord Goo Goo, Ting Tings and naturally that brave new band pushing the musical envelope...Blur all played at Glasto, now we get to see them again.
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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 12:29:19
102
Chief King Bonga

So what? The man has an opinion. Not one I happen to agree with. His elucidation of that opinion makes a lot of sense. he just comes to the wrong conclusion.


As you grow up you will learn that people are complicated creatures. It is totally ridiculous to discount everything a person ever says and does because of a single facet of their character or personality. However objectionable and misguided that may be.
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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2009 12:37:58
"Sir Sean Connery" the self-appointed king of Scotland living in "enforced exile" to avoid paying his taxes here and his pathetic little apologist Alex Salmond.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 12:40:00
Glastonbury is a major event but then so is the Edinburgh Film Festival. The proportionate assignation of staff is completely wrong and Connery (as a supporter of Scottish film) has every right to point that out.

But yet again we have to endure the off topic comments of the unionists who start bleating wife beating every time Connery opens his mouth.

It's not bloody relevant to the topic in hand. It's just gossip and unsubstantiated gossip at that. And are all these posters so keen on women's rights when they post cruel comments about Moira Salmond ? No they are not. The word hypocrite does spring to mind.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 12:41:34
108 It is very well documented that Connery does pay taxes here. Jesus are you people unable to read or what.
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Liz,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 12:47:06
#111
The problem is that he is viewed as 'Mr Scotland' by many here in Scotland - especially many in the SNP and for some reason some think that his opinion means more than many other peoples. The hypocricy of his not living here is what grates with many - if he thinks Scotland is so great why does he live elsewhere?
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Liz,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 12:48:34
I am also still waiting some one to say just exactly what they would expect the BBC (or anyone else) to broadcast from the Edinburgh Film Festival?

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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 12:54:28
83 Lee John,29/06/2009 10:49:37
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"Maybe because the English school system is similar to ours?"

Absolute rubbish sir. Same exams? Same class sizes?
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Do you think the Scottish school system is more similar to the English one or the Spanish one?
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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 12:58:12
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Liz

"The hypocricy of his not living here is what grates with many..."

What "hypocricy"[sic]?

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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 13:01:10
110 Observer,,Glasgow 29/06/2009 12:40:00
Glastonbury is a major event but then so is the Edinburgh Film Festival.
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Is it heck.

The EIFF is a Mickey Mouse event and apart from Sean Connery, nobody would know any of the 'celebrities' attending it.
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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 13:02:04
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Liz

"...for some reason some think that his opinion means more than many other peoples."

You turned that one on its head! Nobody at all has suggested that Connery's opinion "means more than many other peoples" [sic]. But there are a number of simpletons such as yourself who insist his opinion is worth less for no better reason than that he chooses to live in the Bahamas.

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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2009 13:03:04
#112 He does not pay full income tax in Scotland. Fact. He is a loud mouthed fool who's undoubted celeb status has completely won over and hypnotised poor little Alex.
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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 13:04:50
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Jerry Springer

"The EIFF is a Mickey Mouse event and apart from Sean Connery, nobody would know any of the 'celebrities' attending it."

Obviously, you wouldn't. Because, as you prove with monotonous regularity, you are a profoundly ignorant little person.

Not all of us regard celebrity status as the measure of a human being. Those like you who do, are shallow beyond measure.

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Glasgow 29/06/2009 13:06:35
120 It's about films Rufus not celebrities.

122 I bet he pays a lot more tax than you do. What's the matter are you jealous of him ? Does no one want to put you in the movies ?
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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 13:08:05
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Mikko

I tink most people reading this will be struck by the blatant hypocrisy of a mouthpiece for the Tory/BLP alliance criticising the SNP for utilising Connery's fame and popularity.

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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2009 13:12:33
#124 The self-appointed king of Scotland pays no income tax in Scotland. Get over it. He simply regards Scotland as a wee little place he can laugh about with his friends and cares not one jot for.
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dido-bendigo,

Scotland 29/06/2009 13:13:28
Oh dear me! At last I agree with the foreign living old separatist! Still! it's nothing new Sean is it? Were you just a bit put out because you wouldn't be on BRITISH telly? At least you managed to take advantage of Andy Murray's success and get yourself a mention on BRITISH telly news this morning! Keep making the appearances, we don't really want to forget who you are!
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Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 13:14:47
126 What an incredibly silly comment to make. He's a lifelong nationalist who hasn't deserted his wee country. That's what people like you don't like I guess.
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Age of Reason,

Abroad 29/06/2009 13:19:34
Oh dear Oh dear... Lots of hypocites out there.
Well... I'm scottish but don't live in Scotland. Why? Because there are other places in the world to try and to enjoy. That's something Sir S and I have in common. Unconditional patriotism seems to be another.

And (being subject to a wide choice of international TV) I find BBC World cringe-inducing in its tone and content and obvious underfunding. But worst of all its total inadequacy as a source of scottish content. Beit Wimbledon reportage (all about Federer, little Murray and no Hewitt even the day he overturned a seed ranking). Beit getting scottish football results - CNN is a more reliable source than BBC-angleshire.

Time to shut it down and share the proceeds wisely.
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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2009 13:19:40
#128 Ho ho. That is a joke. He doesn't care about Scotland other than to laugh at people like you over a drink with his "important" friends. Live with it.
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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2009 13:22:22
#128 and I'll tell you another thing: several friends of mine would have voted SNP until the self-appointed king of SCotland phoned them up with a "personal" message to vote SNP. That put them off for good.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 13:25:00
A dolt responds

"Once you stay here and pay your taxes here I will listen. Until then keep your opinion to yourself"

When SC works in the UK, he pays UK taxes - probably more tax than you'll earn in a lifetime. Don't let it stop you from being bitter though.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 13:28:12
124 Observer,,Glasgow 29/06/2009 13:06:35
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It is still Mickey Mouse.

They are not even good enough to be called 'B' movies.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 13:29:02
116 Jerny Springer,29/06/2009 12:54:23
Guess people soon going on holiday abroad will be attacked at the airport by unionists shouting british should only go on holiday in britian.
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Get your own moniker you clown.
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 13:30:41
#118 At least you got a response of sorts. He's not replied to my post #84 at all.
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Age of Reason,

Abroad 29/06/2009 13:31:12
And what about Glastonbury vs EIFF? Which is the mass-appeal event? How many license-fee-payers went to a rock gig last year, and how many went to a movie? Is Bruce Springsteen, or Sam Mendes, more worthy of fee-revenue promotion?
The BBC has a charter (or used to?). I don't see Glastonbury rating highly on the need to be informed, or educated about, and the entertainment value is subjective (in the extreme). Whereas the movie business has mass appeal across ages, and sits well in an education, informative, entertainment brief. Controller please note.
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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2009 13:38:23
#132 "When SC works in the UK, he pays UK taxes - probably more tax than you'll earn in a lifetime. Don't let it stop you from being bitter though."

When would that be exactly?
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Tiger Earl,

cordoba 29/06/2009 13:50:13
British Bull**** Corporation is right! Fine bunch of English toadies they are ever since they were slapped on the face for independent coverage of the Falklands war.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 13:57:16
From 1997 till 2002, Connery paid more than £3.7m in tax to the UK treasury.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 13:59:43
"Do you think the Scottish school system is more similar to the English one or the Spanish one?"

Stoopid question. I would imagine the Spanish system has lessons in Spanish whereas yadda yadda yadda.

My point is that whenever the BEEB or ITV mentions an education item pertaining only to England, they should say so.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 14:03:55
Not that it's important (apart to unionists), but Connery pays taxes in whatever country he's filming.
If of course he was a lifelong unionist supporter, you'd all be creaming your jeans.

Find your own ex-pat.
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 14:05:18
The debate here is rather poor compared to the good old days over at the Herald. All we need now is for "Grahamski" to appear. He complained of bullying over there you know.

FFS.
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 14:14:30
#142

N: An argument isn't just contradiction.
U: It can be.
N: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
U: No it isn't.
N: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
U: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
N: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
U: Yes it is!
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Lee John,

29/06/2009 14:15:47
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'Tis not!
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DialMforMurdoX,

29/06/2009 14:22:10
'Tis.

Amazing innit? Retired actor, makes point that BBC aren't living up to their charter and is met by volley of abuse from Unionist dependence junkies.

Keep up the good job rufus, mikko et al, every post from you just stiffens the old resolve to see your politics consigned to the midden.
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donnelly,

Dundee 29/06/2009 14:26:26
leaving the comments of the dickwads above who never seem to approach the subject matter raised but can only use it to excite and stimulate their sad pathetic lives with managing to bring Alex Salmond into the debate ???? ....

Credit to Sean for raising this point ...and as an impartial follow up may I aks you all to take time if possible to watch for a forthcoming anomolly that I have noticed the last two years ? ...

Glastonbury ....punted out at full blast as mentioned on BBC1 ....BBC2 ....Digital Channel 301 ...Digital Channel 302 ....either singularly or as per observed ...3 even 4 !!! OFF THE CHANNEL's AT ONCE !!! ...plus the full coverage of some artists sets and covered extensively and well produced for sound managment ..
...then watch T in the Park coming up ....sporadic coverage off artists sets ..interlaced with idiots ramlbing on to make up time ....one channel and normally late in the evening ...and sound coverage, as though produced via a 1970's hand held cassette tape recorder ...absolutely garbage production effort ...

So there is solid point about fairness and balance to be questiojne here ??
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/06/2009 14:29:26
#146 I noticed last night that for a wee while BBC3 was showing EXACTLY THE SAME thing as BBC2, although a few seconds afterwards.
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The Scotchman,

29/06/2009 14:49:02
BBC meddle in Iran just as they do Scotland.

They beam in propaganda via dedicated channel to Iran.
That's why Iran specifically singles out Britain. There was crowds holding anti-BBC banners over there at the protests.

BBC One is the equivalent of BBC Persia over here.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 14:53:05
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#131 Which reminds me of a great laugh we had at a
super snobby English git.
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DEAR OH DEAR OH DEAR.

That sentence alone tells us all we need to know about the nationalist mindset.
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scully,

Colchester 29/06/2009 14:54:31


SEAN CONNERY* Stop being a baby and pick your Teddy Bear up out the Corner.

You Are One Of the Finest Actors in the World. well known all-round the world., Why on earth are you worrying about the BBC, Take the Licence Fee away and there are finished,They have a Public signed Cheque That the People are forced to pay or go to jail. The BBC keep us under threat. . Surely you don't want to be like them You Got where you are keeping allot of the Public Happy. watching your films.
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scully,

Colchester 29/06/2009 15:01:20
Film your own film Festival, There is not just the BBC in Scotland. and everyone that visits Scotland never forgets the background settings.And these Festival people don't mind the weather.They like getting wet, and being cold.
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The Scotchman,

29/06/2009 15:04:39
Bless the great Sean Connery - a true Scot
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EmbraJack,

29/06/2009 15:17:16
Nice to see so much interest in the EIFF here.

Firstly, I'm struggling to remember any great in-depth coverage of either Cannes or Venice in the past. They're not very 'visual' events to cover. And at least with Cannes you can stand a reporter on a beach instead of in front of the roadworks on Lothian Road.

Secondly, if there is a need for more coverage, surely it should be starting with Reporting Scotland? Or petition BBC Scotland for an 'Artworks Scotland' special on it for next year.
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Liz,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 15:19:29
#146
Again I ask, what exactly did you want the BBC to show of this event?!
Lots of shots of film people most of us have never heard of trailing into and out of the Filmhouse to watch films that 90% of the population have no interest in seeing?! The BBC cannot show the films from a film festival but they can show the diverse and wide variety of music on show at Glastonbury.


and #149 you are hilarious I think you need to get a show at the Fringe. Travelling to some parts of Scotland (as well as some of parts of England) IS like stepping back in time, everyone thinks that. And so what if English people cannot pronounce 'loch' do you get your accent perfectly correct when you visit other countries?! I used to have great fun winding up a moron I knew by deliberately saying 'lake' instead.
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Chico Mendez,

29/06/2009 15:52:31
Mikko 122
Jerry Springer
Charles Linskall

What utter rubbish some of you guys talk.
Sean Connery has done a lot of good for Scotland.
He has donated to and supported literally hundreds of charities. One little known fact about Sir Sean's philanthropy is that he donated his entire salary (well over $1 million) from his Bond film Diamonds Are Forever to the Scottish International Educational Trust which he co-founded. This generous grant — like his many other gifts — has benefited the lives of thousand of ordinary Scots. He aslo donated his salary from Robin Hood Orince of Thieves (1991) to charity.
What have you guys done in your miserable little lives?
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Chico Mendez,

29/06/2009 15:54:28
Correction
He also donated his salary from Robin Hood Prince of Thieves (1991) to charity.
What have you guys done in your miserable little lives?

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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 16:06:18
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Jerry Springer

"That sentence alone tells us all we need to know about the nationalist mindset."

You're just jealous because you're not equipped to have a "mindset".

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Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 16:12:17
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EmbraJack

"Firstly, I'm struggling to remember any great in-depth coverage of either Cannes or Venice in the past."

Check out the BBC website to get an indication of the difference. There is at least ten times more stuff about Cannes than about Edinburgh.
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Marga,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 16:18:31
"I am also still waiting some one to say just exactly what they would expect the BBC (or anyone else) to broadcast from the Edinburgh Film Festival?"

Even if you're not a film buff (what's wrong with a Special on the top films and stars anyway?), there's great spinoffs for all. A lot of interesting and glamorous people come to Scotland attracted by the scene. A lot of money gets spent in the city. A lot of Scottish taxpayers' money goes into its organisation. That alone would indicate that pound for pound, being ignored by the so-called National broadcasting authority, which all we Scots have to pay for by law, is not fair.

I've tried to answer you fairly, Liz. I just hope that you are not one of these people who would prefer to just sit back and let Braveheart and the other Holywood types of projection fill our screens, instead of lapping up quality coverage on a quality event, put on by us Scots, who've grown a bit beyond Rob Roy these days.
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Marga,

Edinburgh 29/06/2009 16:28:25
All this goes to show, once again, that being and - please note - PAYING FOR 10% of the UK does not mean that you get a 10% share of what's going. It just means that you are in a permanent minority and so your priorities never come to the top.

What kind of Union is that?
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 16:28:35
157 The Morn,29/06/2009 15:27:49
Jerry Springer.

And this tells us all we need to know about the unionist mindset:

"Next year they should ban coverage of Glastonbury and force everyone to watch BBC Alba which can show all the James Bond movies in Gaelic."

Your sarcastic little tirade is a very open racist attack on the Scottish people.
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Eh?

Racist attack?

Are you on drugs?

I suggest you visit the website link below and read up on what constitutes racism.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20031626.htm

Let me know what you find in the section entitled 'James Bond in Gaelic on BBC ALBA'.
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EmbraJack,

29/06/2009 16:30:30
#161 Well now, I can see a dedicated BBC page on Cannes. I can also see a dedicated BBC page on Edinburgh. Ten times the coverage? Up to you if you want to count individual pages, but as far as I can see there's good basic coverage there, plenty of interviews and features, links to websites with dates and ticket information. How much more should I be expecting?
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Rob me blind,

Peterhead 29/06/2009 16:46:26
What gives Connery the right to criticise anyone or anything in the UK, he loves the place so much that he doesn't even live here. So either put up or shut up, if you and the rest of the ex pats that ran off (funny how they all say the love Scotland so much)expect a say then move back here and pay your taxes like the rest of us. Or are you scared that wee Eck will get tax raising powers and you wont be able to afford to live here.
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donnelly,

29/06/2009 17:07:44
#156 Liz ...

Can I please advise after reading your diatribe above that, next time you get yourself in a "fizzy" you spend a little time to actually read and digest what i commented on ... I was not talking about the BBC putting more time into this festival ...but commenting more on the general principle and apparant mis-balance of effort put into presenting certain events ..aka ,,,Glastonbury v T in the Park ???

But again, in looking at your wrath at the other correspondent in your comments ...can we assume you are not of a Scottish persuasion ?
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 17:33:35
167 BRING IT ON INDEPENDENCE NOW,29/06/2009 16:32:17
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Jerry Springer,
29/06/2009 14:53:05
Like a springer salmon you just cannot resist, what a sad old tart you are. What a dreary dull unproductive existence is yours, posting guff all day and night, no wonder you are so bitter.
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Sounds like you provided a very good summary of yourself there.

Excellent, saves me having to waste effort providing one old cove.
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

29/06/2009 17:35:44
#170 Joe

When the National Broadcasting Corporation of Scotland is regulated by the Scottish Government, there should be no need for him to do that.

In the interim it would be pointless as it is a reserved matter.

If the awful standards of the EBC in Scotland make you feel to some degree shortchanged regarding your licence fee...I Suggest you applaud Sean for complaining to the relevant authorities on your behalf.

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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 17:37:07
174 The Morn,29/06/2009 17:31:55
Jerry Springer.
OK. I'm sorry for using the "r" word.
How about if I refer to your post as anti-Scottish bigotry?
Does that suffice?
How else to describe an attack on our Gaelic heritage? You tell me.
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No need to apologise!

This is only a newspaper comments section after all.

My post was just a poor attempt at a joke.

But really, all I have to say on the matter is that The EIFF is not a major event that captures the imagination of the public and as such it probably does get the coverage it deserves!
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Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 17:37:27
Well Rufus looks like your stalker is back. Hey halfwit why don't you do us a favour and drop dead.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 17:40:57
179 It's a fairly major event in Scotland if you like films. At least as many people like films than want to see Tom Jones at Glastonbury (it's getting a bit tired these days). 407 staff at Glastonbury - v - zero staff to cover the EIFF is not proportionate.
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

29/06/2009 17:45:00
#173 Jerry Springers,

The scarcely human detritus that cheer for the Union on this thread, probably picket Scottish airports with placards informing foreign visitors that "Scotland is Rubbish" and they should "Holiday in England".
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Ronald Penman,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 17:46:54
I'm with Shir Shon on this one; an International Film
Festival and the dreadfull ebc cannot get up of their backsides to cover it.

Is it not beyond the wit - or resources - to cover BOTH Edinburgh Film Festival AND Glastonbury ?

Mind you, I wouldn't have missed the magnificent
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN and powerhouse that is THE E STREET BAND for the world ! Simply sublime.
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Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 17:48:39
180 Observer,,Glasgow 29/06/2009 17:37:27
Well Rufus looks like your stalker is back. Hey halfwit why don't you do us a favour and drop dead.
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Yes indeed.

The idiot has been here all day under various guises.

I am all for Care in the Community, but this guy just takes it too far.
172

The Col. of Monte Cristo,

29/06/2009 17:52:17
#188 Jerry Springers

Sir,

I doff my cap to your superior knowledge of detritus.
173

Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 17:52:54
186 The Morn,

Fair enough. Your post illustrates your points very well and you do make some valid criticisms.
174

Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 17:53:55
189 I think it's beyond care in this or any other community. A total nut job. Oh well off to read the rest of the paper.
175

Lee John,

29/06/2009 17:54:08
Our very own coprophiliac has appeared pretending he's Jerry. It's time I left for a few days till you calm down. We had this garbage on the Herald as well. Some of you kids need to examine your lives.

Then again;every time this happens a unionist appears and calls the SNP scum for faking a poster. Perhaps it's a double bluff? Maybe someone is faking his own name then coming back all indignant.

188 posts and discounting the multiple personas, there are probably about a dozen people here. Madness. I'll hang around and watch ....
176

Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 18:01:33
195 Lee John,29/06/2009 17:54:08
Then again;every time this happens a unionist appears and calls the SNP scum for faking a poster. Perhaps it's a double bluff? Maybe someone is faking his own name then coming back all indignant.
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I can assure you I am not faking myself Lee!

Also I have not called the SNP 'scum'.

I think the faker is a nationalist mind you as he always fakes unionists. But who can be sure?
177

The Col. of Monte Cristo,

29/06/2009 18:01:40
#197 Jerry Springers

Ever read a book called "Filth" by Irvine Welsh?...I think it would be right up your bum hole.
178

Lee John,

29/06/2009 18:03:03
Coprophiliac

Here's a game for you to while away the lonely hours.

http://www.funny-games.biz/catchashit.html
179

Lee John,

29/06/2009 18:04:34
Real Jerry

Aye fair enough. It does make the thread a bit "crappy" though.
180

Lee John,

29/06/2009 18:12:53
Crank it up to 11 whats?
181

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 19:04:48
anyway...

Way back at #2 I said "I think it would be very good if all the James Bond movies were dubbed into Gaelic on BBC Alba."

Some people, hopefully now gone, took this to be an awful slur against This Great Nation Of Ours, but I still think it would be both entertaining and educational.

Is it safe to come out?
182

Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 19:13:12
206 Poor Bubbles we mustn't laugh.

207 Probably not.
183

Jerry Springer,

29/06/2009 19:28:04
Ladyboy alert @ 206
184

Lee John,

29/06/2009 19:38:25
Childish name-calling. I'll give this a miss. I'll try again on Friday to see if the "debate" has improved.
185

Masterpiece,

29/06/2009 19:41:11

Come on, we have more than enough Gaelic programmes that originate in English or with English themes.

Is it not time Gaelic programme makers grew up and thought about original programmes of their own?
Are we always going to walk around with English crutches?
186

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 19:54:32
#212 - the Great Gravir Peat Heist?

Is Crowdie Really Safe - a Dotaman Special Investigation!!!

CSI Carloway!

187

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 19:57:48
187
Ronald Penman

"Mind you, I wouldn't have missed the magnificent
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN and powerhouse that is THE E STREET BAND for the world ! Simply sublime."

With you on that. But it is not Glastonbury being covered that is the problem. It is the EIFF being ignored. That simply should not happen.

188

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 19:58:41
Seriously, one point of BBC Alba is to give non-Gaelic speakers a chance to get exposed to that language. You aren't going to do that with "Lives of the Great Free Church Ministers".

You need to give them something they would want to watch.

That is why you get hours and hours of Glastonbury. And you don't get hours and hours of people talking about a bloody film festival!
189

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 20:02:53
I don't know about anyone else, but I am truly fed up with this nest of clones and trolls.

www.electrichermit.com

190

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 20:14:21
More of this.

Imagine if Sir Sean got his wish, and the BBC gave the same amount of hours to coverage of the Edinburgh International Fillum Festival as it is giving to Glasto. I count a total of about thirty hours on BBC3 and BBC4. Plus probably loads of radio play as well.

None of that would be repeats. Hardly any of it would be meeja erseholes and ouainqeurs talking. It would just be pop groups. Pop groups, pop groups, pop groups, pop groups. And log on to BBC iPlayer. All the top programmes are Glastonbury performances. It's bigger than the Proms.

Now be serious. How could you fill thirty hours with interesting and compelling content from the Edinburgh International Fillum Festival? You don't get to show any fillums, which is the point of a bleedin' fillum festival. You would just get meeja erseholes and ouainqeurs talking. For thirty hours.

Some patriots would lap it up. And make their children sit through it too.

"You stay there, Morag! Stop crying! It's Scottish! Anyone who doesn't want to watch it is a quisling and a traitor!!!"

191

Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 20:15:25
215 You know you really are quite ignorant sometimes Fifi.

Gaels form an important part of the multicultural community which forms modern day Scotland. But uniquely they seem to be allowed to be laughed at and made fun of. Why is that ? I'm not a Gael but I respect their history and culture and treat it with respect. What's so difficult about doing that.

And we are probably going to get hours and hours of Glastonbury so that all the BBC types who attended it can justify their massive freebie.
192

Winters,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 20:17:08
What's all this nonsense about putting the James Bond films on BBC ALBA.
You want these films translated from from a language you can speak to another language you can speak.
And in case you haven't realized, the James Bond films are not shown on the BBC. They are shown on ITV.
193

Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 20:20:08
217 I think you have mislaid your reading glasses Fifi. Connery didn't ask for equivalent coverage. He asked for coverage full stop. But then you couldn't make your silly little comments if you addressed the reality of the article rather than what you have just made up.
194

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 20:26:23
217
Fifi la Bonbon

"Imagine if Sir Sean got his wish, and the BBC gave the same amount of hours to coverage of the Edinburgh International Fillum Festival as it is giving to Glasto."

And where did you see this, you cretin? Certainly not in anything Connery said.

If you are ever within waving distance of reality... don't bother. I won't be paying any attention.

195

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 20:54:15
Christ on a bike. You people are completely lacking in any sense of humour. Now you're all getting offended on behalf of the Gaelic language, as well as Sir Sean Connery. I bleedin' well know he didn't say what I said he said. It's just that it would be funny if he did.

My serious point is that loads of people want to watch Glastonbury. They don't want to watch a bunch of talking heads yammering on about peaty, earthy overtones with vanilla undertones, subtextual contextualisationistic ramadandos, and constantual characteristomatic definitionistics. Which is what we'd get with "coverage" of the Fillum Festival.

They should put me in charge of BBC Alba. At least I'd get some feckin viewers.
196

Observer,,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 20:58:29
224 You were trying to be funny ? You really should have let us know.

Some of us quite like films BTW as well as Glastonbury. You really need to broaden your range of interests. Try watching a few comedies, that might help.
197

Fifi la Bonbon,

29/06/2009 21:16:16
This would be a typical evening viewing on BBC Alba if I got a hold of it.

6pm - The World News in Gaelic with Cathy McDonald incorporating Reporting Scotland. With English subtitles.

7pm - Top of The Pops from Point Community Hall. With a special appearance by Na-h-Oganaich. With English subtitles.

7.30pm - Rubha Citaidh - that loud wumman from Aberdeen that nobody can understand is upset and lets everyone know about it. That other wumman that used to be in Deacon Blue has a wee cry and her mascara runs. With English subtitles.

8.30pm - Panoramaidh - Iain X Maciver investigates. With English subtitles.

9pm - Casualtaidh - Seonaid has been gored by a sheep in a freak accident. Will Angus Murdo's van get there in time? With English subtitles.

10pm - Dùn Èideann Fillum Festabhal. Four interminable hours of talking heads yammering on about peaty, earthy overtones with vanilla undertones, subtextual contextualisationistic ramadandos, and constantual characteristomatic definitionistics. Presented by Professor Donald Macleod. With English subtitles.

Alternatively - press the Red Button to see four hours of CSI Carloway followed by Glastonbury highlights. With English subtitles.

God bless the Red Button.
198

Electric Hermit,

29/06/2009 21:58:30
224
Fifi la Bonbon

"They don't want to watch a bunch of talking heads yammering on about peaty, earthy overtones with vanilla undertones, subtextual contextualisationistic ramadandos, and constantual characteristomatic definitionistics."

They can always change channels when you come on.

199

Mary Bell,

USA 29/06/2009 22:45:53
This is a ubiquitus problem, globally.

The answer is for Sir Sean, and hundreds of thousands of like-minded persons, to apply their diverse expertice to establish, and sell, common shares in a competetive news, and truth-research service, or services.

Without competition, there is no viable industry.

We do not need another strictly 'dog-eat-dog style' capitalistic money generator, but ...a sensible example of a sustainable information organism guided by the highest level of business and social ethics, toward the most fundimental goals 'to benefit and educate the audience and present a complete unbiased overview of current events'.

Please, do it.

I may be in the USA, but I would love to have known about this, and other cultural events in Scotland.

Instead, I have had to watch excuses for war, regiem change, and the picture of endless, sad, deterioration of the ethics of the information systems, into utter spin and fraud; reflecting a tendency toward authorative control in every land, that is damaging to individual dignity, fairness in competition, and mutual respect.

A free press, that is unfettered by bias or 'blind-spots' is the cornerstone of a creative, prosperous and harmonious democratic culture.

It seems to me that a high level of respect between nations and individuals is not the goal of this current game of 'globalism'.

Indeed, it seems that 'globalism' is synonomous with slavery and suffering on a vast scale.

We need more honest news sources, not fewer...
200

Masterpiece,

29/06/2009 22:49:39
The Scots it seems no matter how independent they say they would like to be, still hang on for dear life to everything that comes from the English language and culture and now call it their own.

The English linguistic empire is still at the core of Scottish life and will always be there.
201

The Col. of Monte Cristo,

29/06/2009 23:18:19
#224 Fifi la Bonbon

The serious point is - we have an International Film Festival.

Do we "big it up" and do our best to promote it both to the cinema going and TV viewing public and professionals, here, in England and further afield?

Or do our utmost to belittle, denigrate, undermine and ignore it?

From the evidence of this thread...It would depend on whether you were a unionist or a nationalist.

exit stage left; muttering under his breath :...and they wonder why we call them Quislings, traitors and anti-Scots.
202

Ewen Miler,

Wilts 29/06/2009 23:51:48
With Glastonbury already established, well known and with international stars; I fail to understand why the BBC would go and cover something that's not well known. Also there's demographics - 5.3 m Scots; rest of UK 50m plus. If it's popular in Scotland, why didn't BBC Scotland provide local coverage; not taking all of Glastonbury?

In order to get the Film Festival more coverage and hopefully a greater audience; might be wise to hold it, not at the same time as already established, popular event!
203

Iainbroch,

30/06/2009 00:22:33
The BBC showing once again that it is just the EBC in drag.

The quisling Unionists will of course do everything they can to denigrate Scotland even to the extent of knocking anything that might be in Scotlands economic interests etc to promote.
I can only assume that they are being well paid to run down thier own? Nation Scotland.
204

Jo Flo,

midst the haar 30/06/2009 00:29:53
# 113 Liz
Because he can
# 114 Liz
Coverage of an international festival might have?- wait a minute till I try to use my imagination - culture -making of a movie- in-depth re writers/directors/actors - best movies to see- the atmosphere - the unusual and quirky side of making movies…. You dolt.

Oh why is Ms Wark y marido not making more wee vids, selling them to the beeb? Maybe at glasto oot her pusso. No she’ll be in Spain where you all think Sean is being a traitor.

Tell you Liz, give some art students a wee budget and we would have some great coverage.

# 127 Dido-bendingo
- I don’t think anyone has forgotten Sean, not even the english.

Age of Reason
Agreed, we spend some time in Spain working.

# 217 Fifi yer bun’s loose
Stop yer whitering.
If I had to sit through more that 10 mins of your tirad I’d be calling in the polis
Just a proportional coverage. A wee bit of respect and value of the arts and you cannae hanel it.
What do you subject your kids to on TV?
God forbid

205

Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 30/06/2009 11:21:32
Oh the self-proclaimed king of Scotland is here again. Well SIR Sean how is the medication these days?
206

Jocknroll,

Dunfermline 30/06/2009 12:32:24
#96 I think you'll find it's Sky that has all the cricket coverage, with Five doing a highlights show.

Sir Sean is only saying what we already know. The problem is that the EIFF doesn't exactly help itself. I find it rather elitist and has gone downhill. The "Surprise movie", for example, used to be a major event (remember "LA Confidential" when they hadn't even finished the titles and "Trainspotting"). The last straw for me was when they put on "Planet of the Apes" as the "Surprise" when it had already been shown in London that week. Don't even get me started on latecomers...

We can't really complain about London's dominance of Scotland when we have to endure the same with Glasgow dominating the media (including radio) in Scotland. BBC Scotland is obsessed with Rangers/Celtic and politics and to the vast majority that is boring. Still, it could be worse, it could be STV!

 

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