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Published Date:
16 October 2007
THE massive salmon landed briefly on the banks of the River Ness at the weekend was, by any measure, a "monster" of the deep.
And yesterday Britain's angling world was a hotbed of speculation that the UK's historic rod catch record, set by the young daughter of a Scottish ghillie 85 years ago, might finally be smashed.

Georgina Ballantyne made headlines around the world
in 1922 when she landed a gargantuan salmon, weighing in at an incredible 64lb, on the Glendelvine stretch of the River Tay.

Her catch set the record for both the largest salmon ever caught in the British Isles, as well as the heaviest freshwater fish landed by an angler in British waters.

It was a record which no angling expert believed could be broken in modern times - until rumours began circulating on angling websites about the River Ness monster which had been hooked and then released on the Highland river on Saturday.

The first weblog, posted on Saturday night, revealed: "There has just been a huge cock salmon caught on Dochfour beat of the River Ness this afternoon.

"It was returned unharmed to the river. I've been told it has been photographed and measured accurately at56in long and 50in around the girth. This fish seemingly measures two inches longer then the current British record salmon of 64lb, and Ness fish are as deep as Tay fish, so we could at this stage be looking at a new record."

Another angler wrote: "Congratulations to the man or woman who caught the monster - a fish of a lifetime - one we all strive for in our dreams."

As the speculation grew and the possible weight of the monster catch fluctuated from 40lb to a possible 112lb The Scotsman managed to track down the ghillie who had helped to net the massive King of Fish.

And Grant Sutherland admitted that the angling party had no way of confirming the actual weight of the monster catch as the only set of scales they had on the river bank could only weigh up to 30lb.

He said: "I was there when it was caught and we are currently waiting an expert's option on the weight of it. The man who caught it is an experienced angler and his reaction was one of shock. It took about 45 minutes to land.

"But the chap who caught the fish doesn't want to say anything until we have been given a weight. At the moment it is all getting blown out of proportion, to be honest."

Mr Sutherland, who has been ghillie on the Dochfour beat for 20 years, continued: "I have never come across a fish like that before. We couldn't weigh the salmon because we didn't have scales big enough.

All I can say is that the measured length was 56in. It was the biggest fish I've ever seen - by a mile."

The angling party have sent pictures of the giant salmon to the government's Freshwater Laboratory at Faskally, near Pitlochry, in Perthshire, in the hope that marine experts may be able to assess the weight of the fish.

But last night any lingering hopes that a new record could be set were completely dashed by the body responsible for sanctioning angling records in the British Isles.

David Rowe, the secretary of the British Record Fish Committee, said: "Unfortunately, photographic evidence will not be enough to set a record.

"Three criteria have to be met to set a record. One is witness to capture which I guess is fine. The second is identification which we can do from photographs and that will be OK.

"But the other is that it has to be weighed on land on scales that can be certified and so it would fall down on that count. So it can't stand as a record."



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  • Last Updated: 15 October 2007 9:46 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Loch Ness Monster
 
1

Scullion,

Canada 16/10/2007 00:57:06

I'm morally obliged to say it; sounds fishy to me.

2

Guga II,

Rockall 16/10/2007 01:06:12

Why didn't they keep it, even just to eat?

3

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA vote Hillary Clinton.. ..for US pres 16/10/2007 03:38:06

Ness monster is ultimate fishy tale
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ON the I-15 Freeway close to where I live .

There is a burger joint called "The Nessy Burger"

For $4.50 you get the best burger ever, in taste and quality.
Its a 8oz lean beef burger with all the trimmings.

We stop there sometimes oon the way back from the beach

HE DE MAN
HE DE MAN

GC

4

49th State,

Still kickin' back 16/10/2007 04:26:23

THis must have been an Alaskan salmon on vacation, this one would be fairly common on some rivers around here.

5

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 16/10/2007 04:28:33

#4 .... No global warming in Inverness, then......

6

BK,

Cyberspace 16/10/2007 06:47:06

"All I can say is that the measured length was 56in. It was the biggest fish I've ever seen - by a mile."
Er, is 56 inches not just a wee bit short of a mile? I know anglers exaggerate, but this is ridiculous!

"It was returned unharmed to the river" Apart form being terrified by the pain of its ordeal and having its mouth ripped apart by a barbaric barbed hook!
The real monsteer is the sadistic person who put a wild animal through this horrifying experience just for enjoyment, not even with the excuse of catching it for food.

7

Boy Wonder,

16/10/2007 07:01:26

You think they're going to claim "Nessie" is nothing more than a family of gigantic salmon spawning in the Loch over the centuries?

Naah! I still want to believe that Nessie exists! Can't convince me otherwise.

8

LochLomond,

Balloch 16/10/2007 07:14:11

<The real monsteer is the sadistic person who put a wild animal through this horrifying experience just for enjoyment, not even with the excuse of catching it for food.>

So you would rather they had dunted it on the heid several times with a priest and ate it?

9

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 16/10/2007 07:24:27

BK

Fish don't feel pain. That is why they can swim up waterfalls, bashing themselces off rocks, scraping themselves along jagged boulders, to spawn.

They have ganglions but nae brains. Do not equate what you might feel to what an animal or fish might feel.

10

Cadgers,

Perth 16/10/2007 07:29:46

#3 GC The ondits of your oh so exciting life are facinating.......NOT!

#4 Everything is perfect there? Apart from the snow that is.

11

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15

Willie Gunn,

Edinburgh 16/10/2007 08:07:00

Having seen a picture of the fish on BBC news last night it was indeed a right old 'kipper' (that's fishermens lingo for a salmon that has been in the system and coloured up ahead of spawning, I would as an experienced angler estimate that it was a 4SW fish with weight in the region of 45 to 50lbs at a push - When it came into the system it would have been a beautiful fish though.

I am surprised that the ghillie Grant Sutherland being as experienced as he is would have been more realistic. Nothing wrong with a bit of publicity for Dochfour however there is not a chance that the fish shown on BBC was over 64lbs in weight.

16

millport curler,

The Bicycle Island 16/10/2007 08:28:40

Oh give to me the power tae catch a fish
So big, that even I
When telling of it afterwards
May never need to lie.

17

KazFarquhar,

Scottish Borders 16/10/2007 08:39:34

BIG fish!!

18

Nellie,

Liverpool 16/10/2007 08:40:10

#2. I think I'd have put it back but I have to say this idea of putting back the fish we catch seems to be a perculiar idea of the British. We told a Russian friends this was the custom of anglers in the UK and she wouldn't believ us until she witnessed the end of a fishing competition in Lancashire. We couldn't stop her laughing. It seems the Russians keep all the fish they catch, even tnhe littie ones which would be made into a soup. They think it sensible not just for the angler but for the fish which remain - they seem to believe any fish that has been caught is likely to become diseased and may infect other fish in the water. Do they have a point?

19

Flash67,

Edinburgh 16/10/2007 09:23:22

#18 and Dave -
I would rather anglers caught and ate fish - they DO feel pain (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2983045.stm) even though the animals' perception is different from what you or I might feel. Essentially, unless we are eating the fish, what we are doing is hurting an animal for pleasure....

20

Flash67,

Edinburgh 16/10/2007 09:25:33

#18 - Fish with surface scale wounds, or mouth injuries, whether from angling or other means, are certainly more likely to pick up fungal and other infections. Whether they are more likely to pass them on depends on amount of close contact with other fish...

21

SickBhoy,

East London 16/10/2007 09:32:07

they taste better with a bit of fear in them
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/escalopesofsal...

22

fred bloggs,

16/10/2007 09:36:57

Fish have a brain and probably feel pain:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3673.html

23

49th State,

counting sheep 16/10/2007 09:40:33

Fish to eat, one shouldn't play with his food.

24

St. Clair,

Darlington. 16/10/2007 09:45:01

I believe my Uncle, Warden MacIntyre landed a largish one in the area now known as the "MacIntyre Pool". I would be pleased if anyone can comment on this achievement, I am not aware the full detail prior to his death.

25

Peter MacDonald,

Crieff 16/10/2007 10:31:36

BK <The real monsteer is the sadistic person who put a wild animal through this horrifying experience just for enjoyment, not even with the excuse of catching it for food.>

An angler fishing for the pot cannot choose which fish ends up on the end of the rod. Conservation practices recommend that all coloured fish, especially hens, are returned to spawn. If you want a sadistic target take a look at how commercial sea fishing treats everything it catches, including throwing back dead those fish that are over quota.

26

Maurice,

Fife 16/10/2007 10:46:33

15. Willie Gunn. the name for the coloured up salmon is a Kelt. And it is illegal in the fishing world to keep one. They must be released unharmed.
Bit of a bummer for me to see. There have been plenty fish on the Tay but everytime my rod is cast, they seem to just run straight up. Hope they breed well though.

27

Peter MacDonald,

Crieff 16/10/2007 11:11:24

27. The term kelt n. refers to a salmon that has spawned and is in poor physical condition. And yes, it is illegal to kill them irrespective of the time of year.

Coloured fish, often referred to as 'kippers' or 'tartan' are supposed to be returned by convention, and even some club rules.

28

animal lover2,

Perth WA 16/10/2007 11:47:21

Actually comment #9 you have no idea of what an animal feels. Yes fish do feel pain...perhaps some research into fish sentience is in order!

Never ceases to amaze me what some t***s suggest. That animals dont feel pain. Besides being such a STUPID AND UNEDUCATED claim, it almost tries to say its okay to be cruel to another animal.

29

Meths,

16/10/2007 11:55:54

Fish fish fish fish fish
Pain pain pain pain pain......

Has anyone visited an abattoir?

30

Willie Gunn,

Edinburgh 16/10/2007 12:09:57

In reply to Maurice and Peter - All people who set forth hoping to catch salmo salar should be well aware of what a kelt is - with global warming these days it is highly unlikely that there are any salmon 'spawning yet on the ness system just now or any other in the UK for that matter. The waters are not cold enough.

This big tartan beastie though is no kelt - In fact most kelts you would catch are actually caught at the beginning of the new season and are mostly bars of silver, they are thin - you can recognise these by their gill maggots - No comments about baggots (unspawned salmon) who occasionally can be coloured when you catch them

Maurice I recommend you have a days fishing on the tay in the first week of the season early in january - you will certainly get your rod bent by a number of fish however these will certainly be kelts unless you are very lucky.......and catch a springer

31

morris,

Edinburgh 16/10/2007 12:41:50

What a brilliant idea!
The Loch Ness Monster is actually a Salmon !

That should bring a few anglers north !

Who knows how big he could grow and I dont mean just as a story!

It could be the perfect answer to Aviemores snow problems .Maybe every loch could have one!

32

Allan(handofgod137),

16/10/2007 13:10:52

So we can comment on this cr*p and not on the previous story, where a thug tools up and sets out to attack people, and gets off with comunity service. Truely the scotsman has lost its way as a newspaper!

33

Grouse,

Canada 16/10/2007 14:02:28

The grey squirrel will eventually kill-off the salmon
Bob

34

Rytalin Jeeberson,

Gone Fishin' 16/10/2007 14:47:55

8 Lochlommond, Catch and release is fine. Just as soon as you can figure out a way to catch only legal fish feel free to get back on your soap box.

I have a notion; go to the river Tay when the salmon are running and call the anglers monsters. I have a feeling you'd sprout a few hooks.

35

iain exile,

brighton 16/10/2007 16:00:08

One good reason to put the fish back is to ensure that the genes it carries for growth to large size get passed on to the next generation. That is the fundamental flaw associated with the practice of returning brown trout under a certain size (often mature fish). This misguided practice selects for a population of small fish.

36

Nobby Clarke,

christchurch 16/10/2007 16:00:23

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

37

The 'Menace',

'Edinburgh',, 16/10/2007 17:13:51

This...'Salmon'...fairy-story,as far as true facts are concerned...Ms Ballantine,was,n,STILL is the holder
of the record!..When her fish was caught,it was then
photographed,weighed,inspected,witnessed by the
local Fishermen/women,No way,can this story hold
any weight!!..How CAN they possibly claim''They
caught,n,assume,because they'd no scales big enough,it WAS bigger than the record-breaker!,like
the 'Loch Ness Monster,it's been 'seen' hundreds of
times,....but,,,Ah!,Well!...What weight,n,size has'it'
been thought to be!..One that got-away!..Again!!..

38

chics311,

U.S.A. vote for Romney for Pres. 16/10/2007 18:17:35

big fish

39

chics311,

U.S.A. vote for Romney for Pres. 16/10/2007 18:18:13

big fish

40

chics311,

U.S.A. vote for Romney for Pres. 16/10/2007 18:18:40

big fish

41

chics311,

U.S.A. vote for Romney for Pres. 16/10/2007 18:19:16

Big fish , well done.

42

Peter Sellar,

Mississauga Ontario, Canada. 16/10/2007 18:48:59

A fishy tale to say the least, without having to produce the evidence anyone can claim a record catch. The proof is not in the beholder of the story but having the fish witnessed, measured and seeing the catch put on the bar scale with plenty of witnesses to varify the claim. Catch and release without any evidence is just hear say.

43

Maurice,

Fife 16/10/2007 19:48:15

28. Peter MacDonald, Crieff, quite correct you are (and others too) I was jumping the gun with not too much thought, not unlike many in these forums. I do however stand corrected. Incidently, the only 2 Salmon I have ever landed were both springers caught on the same day at Murthly on a gold head hears ear while nymphing for greyling?????? Much as ive tried on the proper tackle. Luckily they wer'nt record fish or the bailiffs woulda locked me up. (they were also released unharmed even though one was a about a 14 pounder) Hopefully next season will be my turn.
By the way, i was on a £5 permit and not paying the £300 for the day)

44

cataibh,

Ach yur seen it 16/10/2007 20:12:36

This fish was caught on the Dochfour beat which belongs to the Baillie of Dochfour family. No doubt extra money will be added to the already extremely high money to fish that beat.

45

Huttcity,

16/10/2007 20:33:08

pics or it didn't happen...

46

Meths,

16/10/2007 20:51:10

Fish are evil.

47

Schizobeck,

Sweet Home Alabama, USA 17/10/2007 00:24:44

There is a science fiction story called "Sewere, Gas, Electric" by author Matt Ruff that achieved a satisfactory resolution of the Loch Ness Monster mystery for me.

The main character of the story owns his own submarine and is adept at fording all the underwater caverns and crevices in the ocean. He frequents an incredibly long underwater tunnel/cave between the English Channel and Loch Ness. He thereby befriends a whale who also frequents said "tunnel" and occasionally surfaces in the Loch Ness -- thus explaining why sightings of the "monster" are spaced so far apart. She simply swam back through the tunnel to the ocean neat as you please.

It's just 1 possible solution to where Nessie is hiding and yes, definitely fiction, but I like it. =)

48

wattie>x 1,

17/10/2007 20:58:20

Interesting!

I hope our Nessie monster hasn't been damaged ?

What would we do without her?

Any suggestions? No filth please?


 

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