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Published Date: 02 November 2008
IT IS a rare shaft of sunlight amid widespread economic gloom. Housing experts say falling prices have led to a range of bargains on the market for first-time buyers while the Government's multi-billion-pound bail-out for banks is starting to make it easier to get a mortgage.
A total of 23,422 loans for house purchases in the UK were approved during September, 10% more than in August, when numbers sank to a record low.

And the National Association of Estate Agents says the proportion of first-time buyers on its books
has increased from 8.3% to 9.5% during the same period.

Experts also say there is little to be gained by waiting for property prices to drop any further because the delay between starting the process and closing the deal could mean anyone who waits finds prices have started to go back up.

Leslie Deans, senior partner of Leslie Deans and Co, a member of the Edinburgh Lothians Property Group (ELPG) of estate agents, said: "Things are now considerably better (than they were six weeks ago]. Liquidity and the flow of funds has improved and it is a lot easier for people to get mortgages. There are a lot more deals around than there were.

"Although the days of 100% mortgages are gone, more lenders are back to offering 90% mortgages. Also, the bank base rate dropped in September and is virtually certain to drop again in November.

"Next year, it could drop as low as 2% so mortgages should become cheaper. So this is an excellent situation for first-time buyers. A year ago I would have advised them to prepare to be disappointed as there were more buyers than sellers and not everyone could be successful.

"Now you would almost expect to get a property you are interested in and for less than you expected."

Deans added that this was good news for the future of the housing market as a whole.

With the squeeze on mortgages, there have been fewer buyers in the market. Less competition has led to a rapid slowdown in price inflation which has led to falls of an average 10% in value across Scotland since the beginning of the year.

This has led to more bargains, especially at the lower ends of the market populated by first-time buyers. Many owners of existing properties are being forced to lower their prices – 70% of properties marketed at a fixed price are not achieving even the fixed price.

David Alves, sales manager for Sturrock Armstrong Thomson, said: "There are some very good buys around. Prices have dipped by 10% since the start of the year, interest rates are dropping and are expected to fall significantly again by the summer when prices should have hollowed out. You should be able to negotiate down even fixed prices at the moment."

Builders of new one and two-bedroom flats are also offering unprecedented incentives because of the abundance of such properties, many conceived and constructed during the boom period, on the market.

Companies such as Miller Homes and Bryant are enticing first-time buyers with offers of properties on which they only have to pay 75% of the purchase price now and the rest up to 10 years later. On some apartments, Bryant is offering to pay household bills up to £1,000 a month if owners move in before the end of the year.

Mark Hordern, marketing manager of the Glasgow Solicitors Property Centre, said many were in city centre locations which were prime territory for first-time buyers.

"People were putting their homes on the market before putting in an offer on a property themselves. If those homes have not sold they are having to moderate their expectations so prices can be lower than they were.

"Also, builders of new homes have a lot of one or two-bedroom flats for sale and they are having to use a huge range of incentives to get buyers. If a first-time buyer can get a mortgage then it is an extremely good time to buy."

How easy is it to get a mortgage?

As house prices drop, getting on the housing ladder finally seems like a reality for young buyers who have been baulking at the soaring price of property for years.

I found a one-bedroom flat in Liberton that my boyfriend and I could afford on our combined salaries, at a fixed price of £125,000.

A broker at FirstMortgage said I needed a 10% deposit for a property within three times our salaries. Gone are the days of 95% or even 100% mortgages, but plenty of building societies would give me a safe deal at 90%.

Godirect.co.uk gave me an online quote with Ecology for a variable mortgage at 6.45%.

Case study

One first-time buyer, Lynsey McVey, 21, moved into her new flat in the Meadowbank area of Edinburgh on Friday, and is already giving it a makeover.

"I have been looking for a few months and decided to go for it when I found a property I really liked," she said. "I was able to get a 90% mortgage and mum and dad helped me with the 10% deposit.

"It's in your favour that there is less competition at the moment. I offered just over the asking price and I got it. And hopefully when interest rates go down I will be able to remortgage to an even better deal."

"At the moment it just feels really good to own my own home even if it is a little bit scary."



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  • Last Updated: 01 November 2008 7:27 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Credit Crunch
 
1

Kingston,

Singapore 02/11/2008 00:56:42
There is a world financial crisis and the Scotsman is still grabbing at straws to talk up the housing market.

If this wee girl cannot even save 10% deposit how will she pay the remaining 90%!
2

Alan L Rensie,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 01:41:47
So the ESPC think that house prices are about to go up. Well there's a surprise. Now let me check, yes as suspected, every other commentator in the UK expects them to plunge another 25% as we move into a few years of recession.
3

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/11/2008 02:05:50
1) It's not central banks that decide mortgage rates any more, it's the real lenders: bondholders. They're not of a mind to cut rates whatever central banks do.

2) Auctions, which some industry insiders watch to see where prices might bottom, have failed to sell at 50% discount from peak prices.

The only reasonable conclusion is that prices have some way to fall. If you're wondering whether to buy, don't listen to puff pieces by people whose income depend on housing turnover. They'll make a commission. You'll pay for the rest of your life.
4

Np57Np,

Cornwall 02/11/2008 04:23:20
Dear, oh dear, oh dear. I thought the banks needed regulating, but maybe some of the media need regulating as well. What a dreadful piece of misinformation this report is. Fancy trying to encourage FTBs to get into a massive debt at this time. If they wait a year or two the prices will halve. Interest rates will not reduce with the bank rate, it's all a con. We're in the biggest financial meltdown ever and you mention price rises might occur. Once prices have bottomed out, they will increase with wage inflation, and that won't happen for a couple of years. And what is a bargain, 10% off? Like I said, wait until they are 50% off. If we go the same way as Japan, they could 70 to 90% off.
And then what if the purchaser should lose their job which could happen at the moment. This is a very bad time to be taking on debt.
Lynsey says it's good to be an owner. She actually owns 10%, which will be easily lost as prices further deflate.
This is a dreadful piece of reporting and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
5

Np57Np,

Truro 02/11/2008 04:35:38
Further, the estate agents and other 'experts' you quote are twisting statistics to save their own bacon. I think it's disgusting that their views like these are published. They want to take their cut, yet they take no risk. That is all taken by the hapless buyer who will end up in negative equity. Yet they still promote active buying, when they know their clients will go into negative equity. What an obnoxious bunch.
I suggest that these peripheral 'professionals' find another line of work. The housing market is toast, and EAs are going bust left, right and centre.
6

J McAllister,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 06:56:31
"Experts also say there is little to be gained by waiting for property prices to drop any further because the delay between starting the process and closing the deal could mean anyone who waits finds prices have started to go back up."

Oh my GOD, if you're going to act as a mouthpiece for the real estate industry, at least have the decency to try to disguise it. EXPERTS? These are people with a vested interest in parting fools with their money! Good grief, we're heading into a major deflationary depression, most REAL experts think that 30% further falls are on the cards, unemployment is set to soar, immigrants are leaving the UK and returning home, and you're trying to sell us the line that we're in some kind of eight week slump? You should be bloody ashamed of yourselves, you immoral shills.
7

J McAllister,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 06:58:04
And Lynsey McVey, you're going to lose a small fortune, but at least mummy and daddy will be there to help pick up the pieces.
8

J McAllister,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 07:03:45
This is priceless:

"Companies such as Miller Homes and Bryant are enticing first-time buyers with offers of properties on which they only have to pay 75% of the purchase price now and the rest up to 10 years later. On some apartments, Bryant is offering to pay household bills up to £1,000 a month if owners move in before the end of the year."

You think these are the actions of people confident about the housing market? They are putting out BAIT to try to reel in the small handful of people who don't realise what's going on, i.e. that an extraordinary bust is now underway.

It makes me weep, seeing what this country has become, with everyone just trying to dip their hands in someone else's pocket. No honesty, no effort, no endeavour. A land of sharks, shysters and borderline thieves.

And wasn't The Scotsman a real paper once? It seems so long ago now.
9

notime4anovice,

glasgow 02/11/2008 09:09:43
It seems a bit foolhardy to be encouraging FTB's at the moment. The most optimistic of forecasters seem to agree that house prices will fall another 15% in 2009 so this girls parents are throwing their money away. And Edinburgh isn't a special case immune from the downturn. Building has stopped on the new ' luxury' flats in Leith.
I suspect the parents just want her out of the house.
10

Neil@London,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 09:14:36
Jeremy Watson must have been taking the tartan tablets again! Estate Agents and those with a vested interest in house price inflation will always talk up the market. Its only the most deluded commentator that thinks house prices will suddenly shoot up again any time soon. Jeremy, you have no business attempting to panic people reading this article into buying a new 'property'. Your article is total trash journalism: a lazy recycling estate agent press releases without bothering to do any original research. If you stuck 'advertisement' on at the top of the piece then it would be fairer.

If builders are offering 25% discounts it means that they have overpriced their rabbit-hutches by 25%; certainly being part of any shared equity scheme now is madness as is buying with 90% LTV only to be in negative equity in 12 months and unable to remortgage at a reasonable (non-penal) rate.

Mortgage lending will never return to the heady days of Northern rock's 125% LTV. The best thing to come of the credit crunch will the bank's reversion to lending sensibly and responsibly. In a few years time when house prices return to their long term averages (as most punter in the city are betting) then first-time buyers will be the winners. Until this process completes, there's little point buying when you can rent for 2/3 or less the monthly cost of an equivalent 85% mortgage - with no risk of massive capital losses!

11

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 02/11/2008 09:19:54
"Experts also say there is little to be gained by waiting for property prices to drop any further because the delay between starting the process and closing the deal could mean anyone who waits finds prices have started to go back up."

The same people who said that 125% mortgages are ok because house prices only go up.

I will be waiting till 2010, when the price has fallen 30% and sterling trades at par to the US dollar.
12

Plodjfriss, Hammer of the Numpties,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 09:51:02
So this Leslie Deans who's telling us that things are picking up, is he the same Leslie Deans who said the following here in May?

"Edinburgh is a unique market, it is the powerhouse of the Scottish economy, and that has helped ensure that the property market in Edinburgh has not been affected.

"What we have here is a period of calm and prices not dropping and that is encouraging."

(See http://business.scotsman.com/economics/-House-prices-in-UK.4045148.jp)

At least he's consistent. He may be wrong, but he's consistent.
13

Plodjfriss, Hammer of the Numpties,

Edinburgh 02/11/2008 10:04:26
... and it is the same Leslie Deans who is referred to in the following statement in the Scotsman in August (http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/topstories?articleid=4420731)?

"Leslie Deans & Co and VMH have each made up to ten staff redundant."

These people have a clear financial interest in convincing people that everything is rosy in the housing market (despite plenty of evidence to the contrary), so why on earth is this newspaper giving them a platform to tell the public whatever they want? We're in an economic downturn whose like hasn't been seen for many many years, and yet it seems that it's OK for these people to try to convince everyone that now's the perfect time to take out a huge loan in order to buy an overpriced asset whose value is falling rapidly. Nice.
14

Jaimeson,

Scotland 02/11/2008 10:15:58
"Experts also say there is little to be gained by waiting for property prices to drop any further because the delay between starting the process and closing the deal could mean anyone who waits finds prices have started to go back up."
Experts!? Housing Market!?
In their dreams
15

bluehead,

edinburgh 02/11/2008 11:00:37
if you listen to the so called property and financial
experts the you will end being up to your eyeballs in debt.
16

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/11/2008 11:48:28
I live in a street in a "good area" where flat prices have essentially tripled in ten years.

Now almost every close has a For Sale sign. Yes, the amateur buy-to-letters are trying to sell.

But I imagine that they are holding out for unrealistic prices. They need to cut their expectations. But they won't probably because they are trying to service loans taken out at the top of the market, and they will hold out until the reposession man comes knocking. They are idiots, for thinking they could base a pension on property, and for buying at stupid prices, and for holding out and not cutting their losses.

I have no sympathy.
17

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/11/2008 11:54:59
This report is ridiculous. Auction prices show what houses are really worth.

My advice to anyone needing a house or flat and wanting to buy is to work out what the place is really worth, and tell the seller what you would be willing to pay. That probably involves half of the asking price.

You won't get that right now but soon enough they will come to terms with the fact that they are paying a mortgage and collecting no rent, or a rent not enough to pay the mortgage. Eventually they will do a sum and decide that six months to a year will see your offer as being not that bad.

18

monty,

Annan 02/11/2008 13:21:03
Can't believe that the once highly regarded Scotsman has sunk to this, are you trying to con your readership, how much have you been paid by the aforementioned estate agents to print this utter drivel.
19

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/11/2008 15:05:19
Rents beginning to collapse too:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/nov/02/renting-property

Landlords face falling prices and falling rents, as well as a dearth of tenants. I think we should all salute them for putting their wealth between the country and harm.
20

googler,

02/11/2008 15:08:11
Deans says "Now you would almost expect to get a property you are interested in and for less than you expected."

Is he only expecting other agents to sell their properties for lower prices, or his he saying that he'll happily reduce the prices on his own clients' properties?
21

Daniel King,

UK 02/11/2008 18:04:06
Simply awful journalism!

Does this incessant ramping of the Scottish property market by Jeremy Watson warrant some kind of legal action? At the very list the "journalist" and the editor should be reprimanded for letting this utter tripe go to print.
22

Np57Np,

03/11/2008 01:10:53
Hey, easy money, I'll bite.

So your tenants are gullible idiots. Nice.

You must think you're living on another planet.
Read all the other comments here, and the tsunami of reports which beg to disagree with all your unfounded optimism. We're heading for the biggest economic meltdown in modern history. What makes you think you'll be protected?
After the price bottom, some 50% drop, prices will rise with wage inflation only. There will not be another boom in living memory. Your prediction of 200k is just ridiculous.
Pent up demand, lower interest rates & improved liquidity? Dream on.
I hope that unemployment doesn't hit your tenants, and you won't get too upset when they ask for rent reductions in a falling market and a failing economy.
Already, falling rents are being reported. Why is Edinburgh a special case? Everywhere will be effected.
You seem to have a very strange attitude to you fellow man. You gloat that people go out to work for an honest living.
Your ranting suggests that you do actually believe that things are getting bad, but you're trying to dislocate yourself from reality.
23

Neil@London,

London 03/11/2008 11:30:37
Rents are crashing. Guardian says 8%. DJ Alexander are dumping a load of corporate lets on the market; total number of properties on market in double that of 6 months ago. Supply and demand old chap.
24

Neil@London,

London 03/11/2008 11:41:13
Two of Edinburgh's major financial institutions technically bankrupt having to be bailed out by the government ... this is 'sound fundamentals' is it ?
25

RCro,

Edinburgh 03/11/2008 17:26:46
"I offered just over the asking price and I got it."

I bet she did, now I would really have been impressed if she offered 30% under the asking price and got it.
26

Np57Np,

03/11/2008 17:53:03
Hey, easy money,

I don't take drugs. It allows me to have a clear mind to analyse the crumbling housing market properly.
If you honestly believe that we are any where near the bottom, you need find different experts. To support present prices, you'd need a mortgage of 6 times plus wages and no deposit. The banks will give more like 3-4 times wages, and at least 10% deposit, and often even more. In the case of BTL, the deposit is more like 25%. And 25% or more is required for the better deals. Do the mathematics.
Have you not noticed you are the only one with an optimistic comment? Have you not read other reports, newspaper articles, kept an eye on share prices, television programs or not seen the latest figures on rents, etc, etc? You don't seem very well informed.
Oh, hang on a minute. You are an estate agent and I claim my 5 poonds???
I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings, but my daughter is living in Edinburgh but is soon to leave for a more southerly climate. She can't get a decent job, the shopping is awful, it's cold, grey and rents are bad value. Being English, she is treated badly by the locals. Still, you obviously like it, so stay there.


 

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