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Published Date: 21 August 2008
LITTER wardens have been ordered to patrol outside council buildings after they caught a local government worker dropping a cigarette butt.
The member of staff from the city council's Waverley Court headquarters, on Market Street, was hit with a £50 fine.

In an internal memo, obtained by the Evening News, council chiefs have admitted the incident was of "particular embarrassment" to t
he local authority.

They have warned staff that the public expects a "high standard of behaviour" and said the patrols will continue.

Councillor Paul Edie, the city's community safety leader, said: "Anti-littering laws are applicable to all city residents and visitors, including City of Edinburgh Council employees.

"Whilst most people are law-abiding, individuals who drop litter can be issued with a £50 fixed penalty notice. The message is simple – if you drop litter you can be fined, if you fail to pay the fine you will be reported to the procurator fiscal. Environmental wardens patrol all areas of the city."

The memo sent to staff read: "Recently a member of staff from Waverley Court was served with a £50 fixed penalty notice and reported to the procurator fiscal for smoking-related litter. Littering by council staff is a particular embarrassment to the council.

"We all represent the council during work hours, and the public expect a high standard of behaviour. Wardens will continue to regularly patrol the areas outside council buildings.

"The city centre and parks teams have been working hard to clean up the city centre and improve its visual appearance. We would expect this effort to be supported by staff in council buildings by being vigilant about litter.

"In particular, we would encourage staff to dispose of cigarette litter in the bins provided. Managers of staff without e-mail access should make sure their staff are aware of the content of this message."

The memo did contain a mistake, however, as the member of staff was not actually reported to the fiscal. This only happens when someone refuses to pay the fine.

The council declined to reveal further details about the culprit.

Labour group environment spokeswoman, Councillor Maureen Child, said today: "This person must feel a bit of a twit to be served with a fine by a council colleague.

"It is an embarrassment for the council. Council workers and councillors have to be careful not to bring embarrassment to their employers.

"If anyone drops litter, they have to pay the consequences. I can never understand why people don't put cigarette butts in the litter bins."

The council first introduced environmental wardens in 2001, giving them the power to issue £50 fines.

In May, a cleanliness survey of the Capital by Keep Scotland Beautiful gave the city its highest ever score.





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  • Last Updated: 21 August 2008 10:05 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

artemisclyde,

21/08/2008 12:08:56
Another sterling exclusive for Edinburgh's favourite Evening News.

Have they thought of bringing it out in comic format?
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Cappo Del Monte,

21/08/2008 12:20:27
They people are paid by the residents of the town, they shouldnt be outside an hour a day puffin away, they should be working, and they want a payrise for that lol.
I can feel petrolheid will want a comment.

Great on the warden though
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hibbydoug,

edinburgh 21/08/2008 12:25:40
Great, you can get fined for throwing away a fag end but you get away with anything if you are a utility company, for example how many of these companies leave road signs lying on the pavement once they have finished a job-a major trip hazard which you can see all over the place but has any of these companies ever been fined for this...maybe Paul Edie can answer this, communtiy safety leader my a...
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Cappo Del Monte,

21/08/2008 12:32:39
here toots, common sense says put it out fully, it aint difficult, or is there a bit of arsonist in you?
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Boy Wonder,

21/08/2008 12:36:26
Even easier ... stop them smoking during office hours.
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Boy Wonder,

21/08/2008 12:36:54
Then we'll have more strikes!!! :D
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Council Insider,

Council HQ 21/08/2008 12:38:23
You'll get a few fines outside 1 Cockburn Street as well.
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Alice in Embraland,

21/08/2008 12:50:35
The council putting its own house in order? Whatever next? If they cancel the trams I may have to seek psychiatric help.
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Alice in Embraland,

21/08/2008 13:03:55
14-99. Maybe I am naive, but aren't this site's new security changes meant to discourage people like you?

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Security-changes-to-Evening-News.4407079.jp
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Bob 2,

21/08/2008 13:12:16
no2 Cappo Del Monte,21/08/2008 12:20:27
They people are paid by the residents of the town, they shouldnt be outside an hour a day puffin away, they should be working, and they want a payrise for that lol

great comment N02

Saloux's either got a sticky finger or the EN monitor will take some time to delete all the comments

good luck if anyone wants to "report" him/her
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Nurse,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 13:12:21
Saloux

You ought to get that index finger of yours checked out !!
Could be a warning sign of Epilepsy or that you need to go back to school.
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Bob 2,

21/08/2008 13:19:47
must work at the EN

1 second between some of the postings
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Artemis,

21/08/2008 13:28:39
Of course council staff shouldn't be dropping litter, but they are legally entitled to breaks, you know.
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Epicuras,

21/08/2008 13:30:44
Interesting that he was given a £50 'fine' - legally they can only issue you with a fine if 'you' refuse to pick it up - somthing everyone should note if you ever encounter these 'stasi' workers - just pick wahtever they're moaning about up and thye can't issue a fine. By the way councillor, Maureen Child, we don't consider these revenue men (environmental wardens my ar*e) colleagues; we just think they're jobsworth scum like the everyone else in the city thinks
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Bob 2,

and 1 second to get rid of them !!! 21/08/2008 13:46:01
and 1 second to get rid of them !!!


146 - passed a couple of council buildings, they must have some breaks to be standing out mid morning having a fag.

147 - simpler bin it the 1st place
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Thistledhu,

21/08/2008 13:47:56
Epicuras in a word wrong you have obviousley being talking to a policeman you have just quoted police procedure not the law.

It is an offence against the Environmental protection act (scotland) to place throw or leave any object this is to the detriment of the enviroment. such bad advice will only get someone a court appearence increased fine and oh yes a criminal conviction!!!!
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Smasher,

21/08/2008 13:56:20
I actually go out my way to throw fag ends on the street. I don't even smoke but often get the dying embers of a fag off my friends just so as I can flick it on the pavement. It's my way of annoying the council and the anti smoking brigade. So far, I've avoided the litter Gestapo and the 1000 CCTV covering the city centre. I may pop up on crime watch unsolved.

Public ashtrays are the simple solution. Place them all over the streets of Edinburgh. Lets hope they cost a small fortune and give the anti smoking lobby something to else to moan about. This country is in a financial meltdown and we are employing people to catch folk throwing fag ends away. Unbelievable!!!!
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Thistledhu,

21/08/2008 14:01:39
Smasher it costs scotland 60 million a year to clear up fag ends thats the equilivent of a cancer wing to a hospital every year that there is brain dead people like you who behave little better than spoilt teenagers is unbeleivable i look forward to the day you are caught and fined
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TattooFreak,

Restalrig 21/08/2008 14:09:41
Come on, they guy or gal dropped a fag butt, big deal you really want to earn money station yourself on the high street and start giving out fines to all the tourist dropping the flyer C##P that is being handed out and dropped every second. Oh wait a minute they are not east touches like the smokers or residents. Far to many dropping litter in the high street to do anything about it. Whilst i am generally in favour of litter wardens me thinks they are intentionally told to miss the high street to avoid bad press.
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Giraffe,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 14:32:51
Council staff are entitled to breaks but it is in their policy that the are not allowed to smoke in core time ie. 10 till 12 or 2 till 4pm. Going out for a fag is at the discretion of their line manager. It is also policy that staff caught smoking are meant to be disciplined. Didn't you know we live in the dark ages!
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Mallory,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 14:38:23
Maybe they could keep an eye out for any wandering cutlery as well...
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Jayess,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 14:41:58
"In May, a cleanliness survey of the Capital by Keep Scotland Beautiful gave the city its highest ever score." But it's not worth the paper it's written on!

It may make sense statistically to choose streets for inspection randomly from a list, but anyone knows that litter is related to people, and most litter will be in streets where most people are.

These streets are generally a relatively small number with the greatest amount of pedestrian traffic, and most are centrally located within the city, so a random selection is more likely to miss them than to pick them.
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Midnight,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 15:10:20
You know, the same thing happened outside the BBC in Glasgow. Wonder why that didn't make the news? Oh, that's right - nobody cares!
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Artemis,

21/08/2008 15:27:26
#153 - morning and afternoon breaks for those who take them are during core time. People are allowed to smoke in their break time.
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Smasher,

21/08/2008 15:46:31
No51

£60 million for clearing up fag butts? I just don't believe you. Surely they are picking up other bits of rubbish along with fag ends? This is just another big brother scare tactic to persecute smokers.

Maybe cigarette companys should re introduce the tipless fag. They don't have tips to be thrown away and can burn to ash which can be blown away in a light breeze. There, I've solved the problem and I'm not even that smart. Re introduce tipless fags. They'll kill the smokers so much quicker (that will please the anti fun police and the fresh air freaks) and there will be no fag butts on the pavements. Everybody's happy. Well, everybody apart from the poor bloke who makes the fag tips. He's out of a job. We could give him some of the £60 million we have saved. Brilliant.
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tomias,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 16:07:03
Will the rate payers have to cough up to pay the insurance claims when the councill employees get cancer?
let them smoke- and the rate payers will cough up when the councill is fined for fag ends being chucked away
The rate payers-lets go on strike !
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Thistledhu,

21/08/2008 16:28:20
Smasher its a straight fact it takes two years for a fag end to degrade they just dont disapear.
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NorT,

Edinburgh 21/08/2008 18:12:20
Little hitlers at it again. Not good enought to get into the police so take a second grade job. Anyway there is a distinct lack of litter bins in Edinburgh particuarly in the city centre.
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The Geniune Mario Antionette,

21/08/2008 20:19:30
the smoker should have been disciplined & sacked
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Wee Beauty,

21/08/2008 22:37:30
Who cares , oh my god someone is smoking outside the cooncil hq and had the audacity to drop a butt, what next i wonder. Perhaps the embra cooncil should concentrate their energys by cleaning up edinburgh streets as quite frankly they are a disgrace.
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Jenny MacArthur's Humvee,

22/08/2008 00:46:02
The simplest solution is just to run away from these environmental wardens if they stop you. They can't physically restrain you like the polis can and the polis wouldn't be interested in helping them catch you as it is a civil offence not a criminal one.
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earnabob,

22/08/2008 10:58:11
I used to work as a street sweeper for another council and have to say environmental wardens are just a waste of money - they mostly just walk around all day doing nothing.
The ones in Edinburgh even have stab vests and even the parking attendants don't bother with those.

The area I used to clean had a secondary school, so obviously in 2 years I saw a litter warden once during lunchtime and the bulk of litter was being dropped. Before anyone says it I know they can't fine children but some effort would be nice.
Also they work normal council hours that mean when quite a lot of litter is being dumped , after quitting time in the afternoon, they aren't even on duty.
I know from doing the job that lunchtime should be their busiest time and between 1700 and 0700 tons of litter in dumped in the average city.
I would also like to know why the street teams here don't seem to clean up dog mess as I would have been crucified by my council boss if I left it as they seem to do in Edinburgh.

To sum up, the wardens are for show only.
They don't get enough revenue in to pay for what they do. Hundreds of fines could be done a day, especially in Edinburgh at this time of year - bet they aren't doing it though.

 

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