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Published Date: 01 July 2008
A GERMAN man who kidnapped and murdered a young boy in a botched attempt to extort a million euros was not treated inhumanely when police threatened him with torture in an attempt to find the child, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled.
Magnus Gaefgen, 33, is estimated to have cost European taxpayers £750,000 with his attempt to claim a retrial for the 2002 murder of 11-year-old Jakob von Metzler, on the grounds that he was tortured.

He took his case all the way to the European Court of Human Rights after losing a bid for a new hearing in Germany.

In a written judgment yesterday, the court ruled that Gaefgen could not claim he was a victim of torture or degrading treatment, nor that he had been denied a fair trial.

The case centred on threats made to him when he was under arrest and the policeman in charge of the case thought Jakob was still alive.

The boy was the son of a private banker in Frankfurt

and had got to know Gaefgen, then a law student, through his sister. On 27 September, 2002, Gaefgen lured him into his flat by pretending Jakob's sister had left a jacket there. He then suffocated the child.

The policeman in charge of the case, Wolfgang Dascher, believed the boy was still alive and threatened to harm Gaefgen unless he told him where the child was being held.

Gaefgen had demanded a ransom of 1 million (£790,000) from Jakob's family to pay if they wanted to see him again – and abandoned the boy's body under the jetty of a pond an hour's drive from Frankfurt.

On 30 September, at about 1am, Gaefgen collected the ransom at a tram station. He was placed under police surveillance and was arrested several hours later.

At this point, police thought Jakob was still alive and, under interrogation on 1 October, Gaefgen was told he could expect to undergo "considerable suffering" if he persisted in refusing to disclose the child's whereabouts. As a result of those threats, he disclosed where he had hidden the child's body.

His confession was ruled inadmissible to be used in court against him as it was obtained under duress, in contravention of EU human rights laws. But on 28 July, 2003, he was found guilty of abduction and murder, and sentenced to life imprisonment. It was found that despite the fact that he had been informed at the start of his trial of his right to remain silent and that all his earlier statements could not be used against him, he nevertheless again confessed that he had kidnapped and killed the boy.

The European Court of Human Rights ruled that, because Mr Dascher and another policeman had been punished with fines and suspension, and because two courts in Germany had refused to hear Gaefgen's request for a retrial while acknowledging he should not have been threatened, he did not qualify for a new hearing.

The case of the punished police officers created considerable debate in Germany. Many thought Mr Dascher was a hero.

Joachim Pfeiffer, a German legal expert, said; "Many people are stunned that it got this far at such cost to the public.

"It was a frivolous case that should probably never have been entertained."

Gaefgen will now have to serve at least another decade behind bars.

FACT BOX

THE European Court of Human Rights aims to apply and protect the civil and political rights of the continent's citizens.

These principles are set out in the European Convention on Human Rights, a landmark treaty drawn up after the end of the Second World War.

Most of the nations that have signed the convention, including the UK, have incorporated its principles into their own laws.

The court will only hear a case when all domestic legal avenues have been exhausted.

The court was established and is overseen by the Council of Europe, a pan-European human rights body. The council is a distinct entity and is not a branch of the European Union.

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  • Last Updated: 30 June 2008 10:34 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Conan the Librarian™,

01/07/2008 00:58:06
Wolfgang Dascher, I hope your career has not suffered because of this.

The guy took the ransom.

Would any parent here NOT want a policeman like Wolfgang on the case?

2

Jock MacSprog,

01/07/2008 01:09:58
welcome to Europe ! And we want to be part of this insanity ? Oh wait we already are, we cant even deport criminals who illegally enter our country and then commit crimes.
3

Scullion,

Canada 01/07/2008 01:19:31
It is the sad, painful, thankless lot of liberals to defend the monstrous only to protect the truly innocent. Our police must observe due process or we risk slipping into a police state where you or your loved ones could be given the rubber hose treatment.
This is no defence for this piece of scum but should he (or it) be the reason we lose our precious liberties and rights? He would then have been allowed to perpetrate an equally monstrous crime.
4

Silence of the Yams,

01/07/2008 01:54:04
Comes as no surpise a these Eurocrats are criminals themselves and are just looking after their own!
5

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01/07/2008 02:28:31
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Pilrig.,

Livingston 01/07/2008 05:54:03
5 - and your evidence ?
7

Boy Wonder,

01/07/2008 07:15:42
Sometimes I think Human Rights goes too far. They shouldn't cover monsters like Gaefgen, who quit the human race the minute he abducted a defenceless child!
8

Scoop in the City,

01/07/2008 07:16:05
#2 JMS. Is your understanding really that poor, that you can tell the difference between the EU (the political and economic body) and the European Court of Human Rights? The two are completely different - but don't let that get in the way of another xenophobic rant.

PS: Go Wolfgang!
9

Oor_Wullie,

ma_bucket 01/07/2008 07:43:04
@Conan #1 - "Wolfgang Dascher, I hope your career has not suffered because of this.."

..on the contrary, Daschner (sp. Hootsmon) was tried and convicted in 2004 of what amounts under German Law to "assisting subordinates in the carrying out of a criminal offense". He, along with another officer, were fined 10,000 Euro and relocated to a supervisory position in the keeping dust out of the computers department. Given the fact that Gaefgner had been observed picking up the ransom, the extent of the "torture" used by the police in this case, working against the clock and being faced with an entirely unco-operative smart-ass former law student/child kidnapper, probably falls under the category of entirely justifiable, by anyones standards.

The question remains, under what (if any) circumstances are verbal threats of police violence legally allowable, here Daschner was tried and convicted for uttering a few "Bubbas gonna get you" whilst simply trying to do his job under the most un-imaginable stress possible and fighting to save the life of a child. That there were no shortage of people offering to pay his (Daschners) fine probably wasnt much consolation either. Jakob von Metzler was 11 years old.
10

Guga II,

Rockall 01/07/2008 07:54:18
#5 Rosie. Only places like Poland and similar, where your lot take people they have kidnapped, so that they can then be tortured; that's before you take then to Guantanamo Bay to torture them again.
11

Alec M,

Falkirk 01/07/2008 08:28:58
#11 - Excellent riposte, Guga. She probably thinks (typical USA-ite) that Europe is a banana republic in Africa.
12

ebbi,

spain 01/07/2008 09:18:34
so effectively the european court of human rights has officially legalized torture.
well done guys,this is what the whole thing was setup for.
a bunch of lunatics and idiots are telling us that torture can be justified.
i say abolish this corrupt european institution.it has become a joke.
13

ebbi,

spain 01/07/2008 09:23:36
i am amazed at some of the comments approving the torture by german police.you would not be saying these in a few years time when you or your loved ones will be tortured over trivial offenses or taken to a 3rd world country or indeed one very near in europe!!! to be tortured to extract information regarding your neighbours behaviour!!!
14

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

01/07/2008 09:44:47
14...Not one jot of compassion for an 11 year old child that was murderered by this vile creature...not one jot...nor for his family...maybe the wee boy was tortured?...if you can murder someone then you can bliddy well torture them...what have you got to say about that?...

...well, I hope he gets it in the jail...I hope someone picks on him and makes his worthless life not worth living...and hopefully, he will string himself up in a convenient moment where everyone turns a blind eye...
15

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01/07/2008 09:46:30
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Thistledhu,

01/07/2008 10:09:59
15/16 spot on The price of democracy is to have these people who que up to defend the rights of child killers Terrorist and drug pushers.

Who stands up in court for the rights for the murderd boy?
17

Browards,

01/07/2008 10:17:40
16 Horrible Cankers

Troll
18

Schot,

01/07/2008 11:38:46
Threatening someone with torture is extreme psychological pressure and I'm sure noone would want to be threatened with torture by police investigating say a house burglary.

There was no grounds for his appeal though as the coerced evidence was disallowed in his original trial. Why the European court chose to hear the case at such expense is a mystery, but the fact that the lawyers are £750,000 better off is a good clue.
19

ReadingPublic-2,

Northern Wisconsin 01/07/2008 11:50:26
What a joke when faced with this type of lawyer manipulation. The cop did just the right thing.
20

Hemingway,

Ayr 01/07/2008 11:58:21
ReadingPublic-2

Now with a "-2" ? How many IDs do you have? Why don't you FH Trolls leave the Scotsman alone! Anyone that associates with Djookers is a TROLL!
21

Koffindodger,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 12:33:12
What's with all these "troll" accusations and dopey "slippery slope to a police state" arguments flying around?

The rozzer just threatened to rough up this Hannibal Lecter type when he should have actually tortured this freak. There was no question that he was the kidnapper and there was no question that the child was still missing, the only thing they did not know was that the creature had already murdered the child and dumped his body.

For anyone who disagrees with my hard stance I would ask them to first visualise a child that they have deep affection for be that in the present or past, it can be anyone son, daughter, brother or sister or childhood friend then imagine this creature murdering them then feeling hard done by because a policeman spoke harshly to them.

It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
22

Neil,

Glasgow 01/07/2008 12:33:36
I fail to see how not executing this filth enhances civilisation.
23

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 01/07/2008 13:12:36
i cant wait until one of the do gooders on this site have their child kidnapped and the only way to save said child is torturing the person responsible, and they forfeit their childs life so the murderer can do it again to their next child, because it infringed said murderers human rights
24

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01/07/2008 13:52:22
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25

Koffindodger,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 14:14:01
I am just me and I never "come out of the Woodward".
26

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

01/07/2008 14:30:49
27...Oh sorry about that...just watched "The Wicker man" with Edward Woodward.....there ye go....
27

Koffindodger,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 14:41:55
Couldn't resist the urge to for (very) dodgy double entendres.
28

Kate,

Zurich 01/07/2008 14:49:42
Go Wolfgang! This Gaefgen character should be put in the deepest dungeon and the key should be thrown away...how about sending him to live with Rosie!?

How he can have the audacity to claim an infringement of human rights when he took away the human right of an 11 year old child to live is beyond me and hopefully most sane people posting here...
29

Stefan,

NYC 01/07/2008 14:54:43
#23, #25, #30. Here, here! If it were my child I'd want Wolfgang on the case not some officer with a rule book handy. Protect the victim! Also, what a sub human Gaefgen is. So weak and self interested that the mere threat of 'suffering' and he gives up. A text book oxygen thief.
30

doublescotch,

U.S.A. 01/07/2008 14:57:15
#12 I just walked along the canal bank from Lock 16 to the Wheel. Let me tell you that was pure torture the stink was awful. Dog mess all over the place, junk in the canal. trash all over the foot-path and drunks sitting fishing. That was at 10 in the morning. The price of the fee to go on the wheel was exorbitant. So haud your wheesht. Go to Guantanamo. It is like Sauchihal street with all the libs amnesty human rights etc. etc. We couldn't torture the perps if we wanted to. As a matter of fact they(perps) cause more harm to the doctors,nurses and soldiers that take care of them Go and get off your backside and clean the canal bank. Have a little respect for the country. While you are at that start up a group to save the Dollar Park. That is a disgrace.
31

Number 6,

Germany 01/07/2008 15:06:07
The problem we have here is out of touch judges,who hand out appallingly lenient sentences for the most henious of crimes. We are constantly hearing about sex offenders being let out , time and time again, only to re-offend. The laws on Human rights should not apply to criminals. They forfeit all rights afforded by society when they break society's laws.

The biggest losers are the Police , who are excellent here and highly respected. All their good work
is undone time and time again by these stupid judges hiding behind these ludicrous laws. Soon the public will think what's the point of reporting crime if they get let off so lightly.
32

Scullion,

Canada 01/07/2008 15:22:42
Like many of you, I am disgusted with this monster who should be locked up for the rest of his life.
Many people here get understandably emotional in regards to the victim, as I am, but what if it was your child who pleaded his innocence yet was forced to confess due to strong arm tactics? It has happened here in Canada just recently and the number of innocent men and women hung and sentenced to long sentences for which they were later acquitted in the First World are not so rare as you would like to believe.
33

Koffindodger,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 15:37:55
34Scullion

good and correct point however that does not apply in this case, the creature was not being coerced into a confession but into telling the police where he had hidden the (thought to be still living) child he was known to have kidnapped.

He wouldn't tell them and they fearing for the childs life insisted that he did.

Not the same as what you are talking about.
34

bikewoman,

01/07/2008 15:53:03
26 Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen

LOL, no one is stalking you, you crazy troll. If any one wants to google anything google Horrible Cankers and that site Djookers came up with "Freehoots man" dot com I had to put a space in the word because the Scotsman has banned the word because it's where trolls hang out.

HC is a member of the troll site!
35

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

01/07/2008 16:18:36
See what I mean?

34....Scullion absolutely agree with you on that scenario mate...but in this case this monster was under surveillance....he was seen collecting the ransom by the police and they had no doubt as to his guilt...they thought the child was still alive and could be saved......however... I am against the death penalty because the police do get it wrong and innocent people do suffer...fact...saying that..if my child's life hung in the balance and the police were using strong arm tactics...I would stand back and let them get on with it...if it were my child who was being accused and was innocent...later confessed because of 'strong arm tactics' I would be incandescent with rage....very difficult situation indeed....
36

Dougie, Edinburgh,

01/07/2008 20:30:03
Muslims complain after Dundee police use a dog in their advertising and the police apologise:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2229719/Apology-over-%27offensive%27-puppy-police-advert-after-Muslim-complaints.html

For whatever reason, the Scotsman declined to publish this story.
37

Black Beard,

01/07/2008 21:05:09
Wow, it took 11 posts for someone to start bashing the US. Must be a hootsman record.
38

Paula,

01/07/2008 21:24:57
Was what he put the family through not torture (mental)?

Having them believe their son would be return on giving a ransom. Leading them to think their child was alive when he was dead and dumped like a piece of rubbish.

Perhaps the family should sue him.

Human rights are there to a point. The rights of an individual should not allow them to impinge on the rights of others - especially children. At some point common sense has to intervene. The officer chose to take that route as he thought that a child's life relied on his getting to the truth quickly - he thought this through what the criminal had done.

Remember the case a few years ago when two girls starved to death in a cellar in Belgium as their kidnapper and abuser was put in prison? Surely this would be in the mind of any detective in cases like these.
39

yoric,

01/07/2008 22:40:24
Time to bring back the Death Penalty.

People who are willing to take a life, should forfait their own.

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01/07/2008 23:51:11
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MikeyG,

Newcastle 02/07/2008 09:15:30
Well, if he'd have won, I'd have given many Euros to the poor boys parents to sue the evil b****** for twice that for killing their son and putting them through "considerable suffering"...how does this even get so far as to cost US, "us" as in you and me, £750,000??? The key should have been thrown away when MG was locked up..he forfeits all rights to be treated decently when he treats a young boy - or ANYONE - the way he did

 

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