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Published Date: 13 July 2009
THE entire UK population is to be vaccinated against swine flu following the death of the first healthy British patient.
The NHS will receive the new vaccine in the next few weeks and is expected to fast-track the drug through regulatory approval within five days.

Scottish ministers are currently drawing up plans to decide which population groups should be first to be vaccinated, following reports there will not be enough for the Scottish population until November 2010.

The NHS is understood to be planning to vaccinate as many as 20 million people in Britain before the end of the year.

The move comes after the death of an Essex man on Friday who was the first person without underlying health problems to have died after contracting the virus.

Yesterday Peter Holden, the British Medical Association's lead negotiator on swine flu said GP surgeries were gearing up for one of the biggest vaccination campaigns in almost 50 years.

"If this virus does (mutate] it can get a lot more nasty, and the idea is to give people immunity. But the sheer logistics of dealing with 60 million people can't be underestimated."

He said the principal goal was to vaccinate all those who would traditionally be at risk of the winter flu virus such as the old, the pregnant and those who have kidney and renal diseases. He stressed the reason public vaccination was taking place was not because the virus was perceived as a killer but that society could not cope with a high percentage of the population off work ill. The jabs would also reduce the number of people who require hospitalisation.

Mr Holden said there will be enough vaccines available to allow the inoculation of all those at higher risk by the end of the year.

Regulators at the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) said the vaccine, which is being supplied to the UK by GlaxoSmithKline and Baxter Healthcare, could be approved for use within five days. The EMEA said clinical trials have taken place on a "mock-up" vaccine, similar to the one that will be used for the biggest mass vaccination programme in decades.

However, the regulators said the decision to fast-track the drug would not be at the expense of the public's health.

A spokesman said: "The vaccines are authorised with a detailed risk management plan. There is quite a body of evidence regarding safety on the trials of a mock-up and the actual vaccine could be assessed in five days."

The government has ordered enough vaccine to cover the entire population of 60 million and GPs across Britain are being told to prepare for a nationwide vaccination campaign.

However, NHS Scotland chief executive Kevin Woods recently said in a letter to local NHS board officials: "According to current delivery estimates vaccine for 100 per cent of the population could be received by November 2010."

Yesterday a spokeswoman for the Scottish Government said: "We have said that a vaccine is being worked on and the plan is to vaccinate everybody."


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  • Last Updated: 12 July 2009 9:03 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Swine Flu
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 00:46:02

If the Health Authority are worried enough to have us all vaccinated, it is of about time we take 'heed' and buck-up, our ideas of personal hygiene.
Not all of us, but it is amazing and with disbelief that you still see people coughing, and blowing their nose all over the place, without covering their face, and using a tissue that cost less than a penny, but could stop the cost of our lives.



2

subrosa,

13/07/2009 01:24:47
I'm not happy about this. I've read too much in recent days about this vaccine. The article doesn't say anything about opting out either.
3

drunken proffet,

Tassy 13/07/2009 02:42:46
I have never enjoyed injections and would prefer a large bottle of Ballantynes rather than an unknown substance in my body. It is a well known fact that whisky kills all known germs, right round the bend. Or was that a well known toilet cleaner.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 02:56:04

No-One, is going to force anyone to have this 'flu-jab'!
But you might be wise to have it anyway, if this flu mutates however, it will be a waste-of-time, better learning what a 'tissue' is for, and the meaning it has!


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rogerB,

Kowloon 13/07/2009 04:15:22
Swine of a system lost my post.

So edited version:
I suggest there is nothing to panic about.
1/ I returned to Hong Kong at the peak of SARS, all 9 passengers on a 747 and went about my duties as a normal white collar person - still here to comment.
2/ I am 54 so I have to wait until some date in 2010 for my jab. I am happy to wait cause I do not want or need it. It is like helicopter supply to our troops, the GOV don't provide enough until it is too late.
3/ I am researching the shareholdings of the Right Hon. members of Westminster. Some, or all of them, must know the company that is to provide the 60 million needles and all the plastic bits that go with the needles. BUY THE STOCK QUICKLY....
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blackops,

13/07/2009 04:46:58
wonder what the side effects are of this drug as they will be giving it to everyone but seems from the above it has not been fully tested - a country of guinea pigs again, maybe better to take a chance and not have it done???
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Pandapuss,

USA 13/07/2009 05:40:44
Good grief! Only today I was in a discussion with regards to the same 'noises' being made here! #2...subrosa...said there was no mention of "opting out". Well, here the move is afoot that should such vaccinations become mandatory for all and anyone refuses it will be automatic quarantine. There you have it...beware! This is such a crock...
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Finnharp,

Canada 13/07/2009 05:47:46
If we are all to take this drastic measure within the next year and some company has the formula, should it not be illegal for them not to provide such formulas to as many producers as possible, or is it all just for financial gain and scare tactics, what about cancer 1000s die everyday, aids, etc.

Cmon get real, we are all for the off 0n 21/12/2012 anyway.
11

Finnharp,

13/07/2009 05:52:33
#10 - that is the point, more people will die from the jab,jag, shot than from this flu, unless there is more our governments are not telling us, like it was disbursed from a foreign fighter group and they have more and vowed to start using, lets see how the US reacts, if they start pushing over 300 mil vaccines, then there is more to this jacca-nory.
12

Bruce's spider,

13/07/2009 06:17:14
In a normal year between 250,000 and 500,000 die from "normal" Flu. Swine Flu has killed nothing like this number of people with the figure being 231 dead by the middle of June. Swine Flu will go the way of SARS, BSE, Avian Flu and all of the other great killers that have been hyped to near hysteria levels and then peter out like a damp squib. Of course this is all good news for the drug companies at a time of global share prices being on the floor. What a pity we don't have a more able political class who can put their foot on the ball and take a look around and say "What a minute, none of what I'm being told by these medical experts adds up". Alas, its left to us to find out the facts and fight the battles ourselves. C'est la vie.
13

Black Five,

edinburgh 13/07/2009 06:44:16
By Nov 2010.......that seems to be shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.I would think it should be now for all if this flu is that bad.
14

Lanna,

13/07/2009 06:51:10
"If this virus does (mutate] it can get a lot more nasty, and the idea is to give people immunity."
-immunity against what? If the virus mutates, how can they be made immune from a jab for the old virus?
What are the side effects of the jab? Sometimes they're worse than the actual virus symptoms. Let the compromised people opt to get the jab, but healthy people should not be coerced; rather Orwellian isn't it?
15

donald,

glasgow 13/07/2009 07:08:13
And still the Britnats deny Nichola money from the London Tax collector to cover the costs. Labour Brit Nats would rather see Scotland suffer even further.
16

mk-ultra,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 07:20:15
"The NHS will receive the new vaccine in the next few weeks and is expected to fast-track the drug through regulatory approval within five days."

Anyone who accepts what is basically an untested vaccine, especially one created by the infamous "Baxter", needs their head examined.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6694046.ece

(Read the comments that follow this Times article.)

http://www.lifegen.de/newsip/shownews.php4?getnews=2009-02-26-5323&pc=s01

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/cbs+60+minutes%2C+swine+flu+vaccine/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam
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Obanite,

13/07/2009 07:34:58
Good news, eh! But, I thought this paper ran a story last week telling us we wouldn't be vaccinated?!
18

Phil C,

13/07/2009 08:35:03
Cheers Gordon, I might get a life-saving jab sometime in the next couple of years, or I might die first, or nothing might happen, or the jab could turn me into a madman who votes Labour.

I think I just won't bother. Thanks for your concern though!
19

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 08:35:26
#1 - good point.

How many nurses/nursing auxilliaries do you see wearing uniforms on filthy public transport?
20

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 13/07/2009 08:56:27
I refuse to be vaccinated and I am stubborn so if they try to force me I will prosecute for criminal assault occasioning actual bodily harm and false arrest. In addition it's illegal under Articles 2 & 3 of ECHR. What goes into my body is my business and mine alone and the same for everyone else.
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 09:03:43
Knee-jerk, knee-jerk, bloody knee-jerk. Have thery really not got anything better to spend their time on? If it's not dreaming up ways to restrict our freedoms, it's over-reacting to the slightest risks.

For christs sake, when are we ver going to get a government that actually GOVERNS, rather than ruining the country by incessant nannying and oppression.
22

Jimmy Le Pie,

13/07/2009 09:18:26
Could it be that a pork flu pandemic in the UK could result in Comrade Broon declaring marshall law and cancelling next years election????


Comrade Broon will do ANYTHING to hold onto power!
23

aljok.23,

the world 13/07/2009 09:24:28
no thank you vaccine. I'll take the risk.
24

John JP,

13/07/2009 09:24:52
I cannot believe the government have created this level of hysteria. People die of the flu every year and they don't mass vaccinate everyone.
25

reincarnated,

as Attilla the Pun 13/07/2009 09:31:14
The flu jab will be innocuouus.
26

Boy Wonder,

13/07/2009 09:38:09
They're NOT getting near me with a needle! There could be ANYTHING in that syringe! Like a virus that will force you to vote Labour or Tory in the next election!

NAE CHANCE!
27

billengland,

13/07/2009 09:45:44
More money for big pharma. The tamiflu thingy, which is now out of date, was a nice little earner.

By the time they have reaped the profits from this vaccine, the virus will have mutated and they will make another one.

It makes you wonder - make flu not war?
28

fegan,

N/Ireland 13/07/2009 09:51:54
What is there about this flue that they are NOT Telling US. Is it something that has escaped from a Laboratory and they Know the Potential risks? or is it A ploy to take our minds away from the Global Mess?
Some thing dose NOT ring True Ant one any Ideas
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 13/07/2009 10:12:45
All OAPs should have an option of either a jag or a litre bottle of Ballantynes. I must admit that the last time I had flu I could not drink a dram or smoke a ciggie. It is a serious illness you know.
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IainGlasgow,

13/07/2009 10:23:15
Perhaps we should be more worried about the side effects of the untested vaccine that is being stockpiled and speculation that forced vaccination for everyone may be introduced if we don't take it willingly.

How they would enforce it I don't really know considering the number of people in the country who are homeless, unknown illegal immigrants or simply just not registered with a GP are probably more than enough to continue the spread.

I have no intention of receiving a Swine flu vaccination in any circumstances unless I am sectioned under the mental health act and it is administered under restraint.

If you really want a cure for this and not some dodgy Common Purpose eugenics vaccination then go and Google "Colloidal Silver" which is tried, tested, proven and safe.

Look up Codex Alimentarius as well, we need to get informed about this stuff instead of putting blind faith in the medical profession and the pharmaceutical corporations that control them.
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Esox Hunter,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 10:23:30
#22 I agree with you entirely but I hope you will direct the same conclusions towards the SNP Government's interference with our lives over alcohol legislation, or is that acceptable and blanket flu innoculations are not.
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Greyhound Welfare,

South Wales 13/07/2009 10:40:13
This is similar to the panic from vets about you should vaccinate yearly your animals yet it has been proved that it is not necessary except for the drug and vets profits. This Swine Flu panic is similar to TB & GB panic about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that never existed. I wonder which Government lab. drug company lab this Swine Flu escaped from for the drugs companies profits. George Brown can have my Swine Flu vaccine, the normal OAP flu jab has given me the Flu every year except the year I did not have the vaccine. Your immune system fights these vaccines leaving you wide open to other diseases, the same as what happens to Pets with the yearly booster. No thanks NHS keep it to yourselves. Too much cleaning is a major cause of these nasty bugs.
33

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 11:47:49
Hysteria ..... that is all I have to say on the subject. I will not be getting vaccinated just to make some 'Labours buddy' pharmaceutical company rich and fuel the panic over nothing ... the politicians are just winding swine flu up to detract from the corrupt goings on in parliament.

31: - Spot on - you can get machines quite cheaply so you can make your own .... just google them.

33:- great comment too - what people are forgetting is than 'normal' flu takes 500,000 lives a year worldwide ... swine flu is not nearly as deadly as 'normal flu' ... it MAY mutate but then again so may 'normal flu' ... no substitute for strong immune systems ... if we keep on relying on vaccines and other government gimmicks sooner or later nature will produce the mother of all viruses and we will have no immunity left in our bodies .... then it is essentially up to the big pharma and government to decide who lives .... and who does not. The only way we can stop this is by staying strong, not being to 'precious' about ourselves and sticking two fingers up at the government and big pharma .... who are not there to save you .. they are there to fleece you, then bury you !

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Scottyboy007,

GLASGOW 13/07/2009 11:53:53
You dont need to go to America to find BLACK OPS !!
35

Jason,

Japan 13/07/2009 11:57:16
The largest problem facing mankind today is over population. Could this be Authority's preferred method to address this problem?
Just because he's paranoid,...
36

Boab1,

13/07/2009 12:04:40
What a load of overhyped nonsense. Par for the course when it comes to any health story in today's media unfortunately. You could name any disease from the past decade that the 'experts' have told us is a real threat to the populace.

A word of advice people. Just live your lives as normal. You'll do yourself more harm worrying about it.
37

IainGlasgow,

13/07/2009 12:24:11
#36

It has been suggested by American Billionaire Ted Turner that a population decline of 95% from current levels would be ideal. This man is a Bilderberger and has been involved in some very dubious projects.

http://www.jonesreport.com/article/04_08/28turner_911.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner
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english charlie,

13/07/2009 12:28:30
In a Michegan (USA) hospital treating swine flu patients, nine of the ten on respirators were obese, and two of the three who died were severely obese'.
Smoking dulls the appetite.
Smoking lines the lungs and helps prevents swine flu from infecting the lungs.
Smoking, jab or death? The choice is yours.
39

Opening batsman,

13/07/2009 12:36:35
#37 Boab - What a load of overhyped nonsense

Well said, Boab. The 'flu may be spreading but not nearly as fast as the spread of journalists or column inches reporting the subject.
40

Tartan Viking,

13/07/2009 12:39:55
Can we not all just take an 'Askit' powder? Are these still on sale?
41

JT,

13/07/2009 12:47:53
Dont believe in the normal flu jab so not getting this one. A manager once told me that as I didnt take up the free flu jab I couldnt go sick! Funny thing a couple of days after he had the jab down he went with flu and I stayed flu free!
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 13:19:06
#32:

Lol!

Either you are new to these pages or have not ever read any of the comments!

Fear not. I come down firmly AGAINST any measures aimed at restricting the sale of, or increasing the price of alcohol. I am also totally opposed to smoking legislation to boot.
43

IainGlasgow,

13/07/2009 13:19:17
Mandatory vaccine legislation is being considered to address the swine flu. Yet the risk and dangers of such a vaccine may be greater than the benefits. Here's what Barbara Loe Fisher, President of the National Vaccine Information Center, has to say.

"Department of Homeland Security officials are declaring that any disease outbreak is a matter of homeland security. Department of Defense officials are defining public demonstrations as 'low level terrorism.' In some states ... doctors have persuaded legislators to quickly pass pandemic influenza legislation that will allow state officials to enter homes and businesses without the approval of occupants; to investigate and quarantine individuals without their consent; to require licensed health care providers to give citizens vaccines and to ban the free assembly of citizens in the state."

http://www.topix.com/city/berkeley-ca/2009/07/mandatory-vaccine-for-swine-flu-risks-and-dangers
44

The Browne Gothic,

13/07/2009 13:50:57
What about American pretend town flu, or Michael Hutchence flu, no one worried about him being everywhere, or hamster flu for those poor people left in ignornance and called obese, or slug flu, or Madam Tssauds flu, or job clerk flu, or Gordon Brown flu, or Geoffrey 'you will have me' Hoon flu.

Cut the bull labour or is it Edwinstowe Pigs (oh those rutting deer) and get your heads out of your trousers.
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Kenthis,

Amsterdam 13/07/2009 14:46:52
I wrote a white paper for the European Space Agency in 2006, highlighting the dangers of a Pandemic influenza outbreak in Europe and its effects on the population.

The measures being considered here by the UK government are simply to cover their departmental asses and to prevent extensive litigation cases against them. They have only to prove that they took 'all reasonable measures' to mitigate financial and political damage against this outbreak.

I am confident that government has conducted an extensive risk assessment to consider the potential cost surge from litigation cases, taken out against the government, following the use of untested and potentially damaging vaccine. They must have concluded that 'movement' on this issue would be seen and accepted as 'action'. Thus reducing the level of pay-outs.

The dangerous phase for the pandemic influenza is indeed the second wave but the mutated virus will not be deterred by the initial innoculation. On the contrary this type of virus takes advantage of the body's immune system to short-circuit its defenses and it is aided by the original anti-bodies built up by the initial infection. This is why the second phase is more dangerous, not because you have no anti-bodies built up but because you have built up 'sympathetic' anti-bodies. This may also be the case for the proposed vaccine. It has not been tested against a second infection, thus it could actually act as an accelarated agent for the second more virulent phase.

The only winners here are the pharmaceutical companies that are ferociously lobbying your politicians and panicking them into taking knee-jerk reactions that ensure the sudden rise in vaccine production, turnover and profits for them, without affecting the final outcome of the pandemic.

This is the biggest national lottery you have ever been involved in, albeit involuntarily and again the profits will not go to the public only the spoils.

Are you willing to go 'double or quits' on an unt
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Ewan M,

13/07/2009 16:18:07
#16 - You are dillusional.............!
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NoNamesLeftInThisSystem,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 16:47:33
This is just 'flu, nothing special. People over 60 have antibodies against it already, and it responds to existing anti-viral drugs.
So we're going to produce a vaccine (which may be out of date before it's made in sufficient quantity) for administration to the elderly (who probably don't need it) and children (who have not been shown to be at risk).
Knee-jerk ain't the half of it.
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logic says cancel!!!!,

trust them? 13/07/2009 17:09:35
Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
Helen Branswell
The Canadian Press
March 5, 2009

The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.

The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.

And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

“At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.

“But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.”

The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.

Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event.

On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communic
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 13/07/2009 18:19:09
Highly commendable...

However,since when have you been able to sue the government if you get flu?

Like I say, knee-jerk, knee-jerk, bloody knee-jerk.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

13/07/2009 20:32:21
Has anyone mentioned Common Purpose yet?
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IainGlasgow,

13/07/2009 22:18:58
#54

Why? Are they going to get vaccinated first?
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weary observer,

Wisconsin USA 14/07/2009 02:05:03
Exactly, blackops: another country of guinea pigs.

Do some serious digging - check out the company that makes Tamiflu - check out owners...check out EVERYTHING -
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starnige1,

wales 14/07/2009 17:14:46
i wont be taking any cancer vaccine.by the same company who killed them homeless poland people no way on this earth are my kids partner taking nothing iam not beeing told by a bunch ov crimnal goverment which are being run by the bankers elite down withe the N.W.O hang them all they are no better than hittler they think they can control us they have no idea wot is comming for them i cant wait too see blair brown and the rest ov the crimnal elite hang for crimes agaist all ov mankind they have killed so maney its about time they had taste ov the death they have caused on mankind for the past 100 years and more so few ov them can kill so many good people rothchild rockfela scum and them common purpose just another branch of the elite tree that needs snaping
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Panda123,

15/07/2009 08:18:27
Increase your intake of Vitamin C and Zinc take personnal hygeine seriously eat well and stay well hydrated

In response to one of the earlier posts I doubt if the 6 year old girl that died was smoking or drinking. peole coughing all over the place and not washing their hands regularly contibutes hugely to the spread of any flu virus buy a hankie its the least you can do
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IainGlasgow,

15/07/2009 15:59:07
Go and Google Jane Bergermeister and Ghislaine Lanctot

See also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHxHmHa9qvs&feature=related
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Seek the truth,

Edin 15/07/2009 16:37:44
Wait a minute, if everyone gets vaccinated against this "swine flue" and it mutates, Quote ""If this virus does (mutate] it can get a lot more nasty, and the idea is to give people immunity. But the sheer logistics of dealing with 60 million people can't be underestimated." the people who have been vaccinated will not be protected against the new strain, its time to wake up people, please, do your research, and don't take this flue jab.
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pduffy4,

Glasgow 15/07/2009 17:23:51
Search google for "Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland"

The alleged victims received £1-2 to be tested with what they thought was a conventional flu vaccine but, according to investigators, was actually an anti bird-flu drug. 21 DIED!

Do NOT take ANY vaccines ever!
NONE are safe.
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pduffy4,

Glasgow 15/07/2009 17:34:02
Vaccines do NOT EVER give immunity they poison you and damage your immune system causing asthma, cancer, short sight and many other conditions.

Search for "Dr John Rengen Virapen (1/4) Big Pharma Whistleblower Speaks Out at the AZK in Germany (Full Edit)" on Yu Tune please. This Doctor admits he bribed the Swiss Government to allow Eli Lilly & Co to sell a particular drug (if I remember correctly it was Ritalin)
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pduffy4,

15/07/2009 17:36:33
Dr John Rengen Virapen (1/4) Big Pharma Whistleblower Speaks Out at the AZK in Germany (Full Edit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmi3ihrUHJU

http://www.drcarley.com/
http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/ deals with the man made swine flu virus also.
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Seek the truth,

15/07/2009 17:44:18
QUOTE Charles Linskaill,
Edinburgh 13/07/2009 02:56:04

No-One, is going to force anyone to have this 'flu-jab'!
But you might be wise to have it anyway, if this flu mutates however, it will be a waste-of-time, better learning what a 'tissue' is for, and the meaning it has!


Well I think this is where we have all been sleeping, and our so called Politicians have ratified treaty's
without even reading them, or been bribed more like.

We can be forced http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/164.htm to take them and its about time everyone was starting to get the word out of what is actually the truth.
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IainGlasgow,

15/07/2009 22:29:49
#65

In 2005 all signatories to the World health Organisation (WHO) agreed to be bound by its directives in the event of a level 6 pandemic which the have now declared. This includes the UK.

The EU is effectively running the UK now through their Common Purpose network and their graduates in the NHS will play a pivotal role in the vaccination programme.

The USA and Norway are already about to legislate to allow forced vaccination.

In the USA the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) have constructed 80 odd large internment camps across the country which they claim are for illegal immigrants. My first thought is how come then it's FEMA and not the Immigration Department that are setting them up. Are they expecting an unstopable stampede across the Mexican and Canadian borders?

It is also claimed FEMA have stockpiled a massive number of plastic coffins and are preparing mass graves. A private quasi-military security firm called Blackwater is being assigned a major role in national security and has centres set up all over the place.

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