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Published Date:
11 March 2008
MARTYN McLAUGHLIN checks out top tourism attractions, hotels and restaurants to see how far they will go to help visitors
IT IS an unfair image of tourism in Scotland, but one which nonetheless abides: a backwater where even if you arrive only a minute late for lunch you will go hungry.

Great progress has been made in an industry worth £4 billion a year, but there
is, it seems, always room for improvement.

As hundreds of tourism businesses gather in Glasgow today to hear how they can better their customer service, The Scotsman decided to put some to the test with a snapshot survey of visitor attractions, hotels, and restaurants across the country.

The first test saw us pose as the group leader of a class of 20 French schoolchildren on a sightseeing tour this Thursday. Unable to get to the attraction until 15 minutes before closing time, we asked if it would be possible for closing times to be extended by half an hour.

Out of three of Scotland's top sites – Edinburgh Zoo, Edinburgh Castle, and Rosslyn Chapel – none was able to fulfil our request.

The second scenario involved a US businessman arriving on a late-night flight in search of a hotel. Posing as his PA, we apologised for the "late hour" of arrival, but inquired as to the possibility of booking a massage and a light dinner for around 1:30am.

None of the hotels we contacted – the Malmaison in Glasgow, the Atholl Palace Hotel in Pitlochry, and the Drumossie Hotel in Inverness – was able to meet the spa request, but all offered a light snack or soup and sandwiches.

The final scenario saw us again pose as the PA of a US businessman, looking to book a table for dinner. The request this time was to have the establishments supply a copy of the New York Times newspaper at his table.

One restaurant, Vittoria, in Edinburgh, granted our wish. A second, Glasgow's Ubiquitous Chip, offered to print out a copy of the paper's online edition (at a cost), while The Mustard Seed in Inverness said it could not help.

Initially, the most recent national survey of visitors to Scotland appears to paint a positive picture, with a 97 per cent visitor satisfaction level.

The detail, however, reveals disconcerting statistics. Some 40 per cent of visitors considered Scotland poor or very poor value for money, and a third said they would not recommend our food. Furthermore, a quarter of respondents said they were only "quite satisfied" with their trip, with more than one in five only "quite likely" to talk up Scotland as a tourist destination.

There is, of course, a sporadic shot in the arm. Last autumn, Scotland was singled out by Lonely Planet for its hospitable welcome, one of the top ten friendliest countries in the world, no less.

Speaking about the level of customer service in Scotland, Professor John Lennon, chair of the Moffat Centre for Travel and Tourism Business Development at Glasgow Caledonian University, said: "It's a case of, 'lots done, more to do'.

"People around the world are naturally well-disposed to Scotland. It is an iconic country, and the goodwill and positive perception is something we have to build on."

BID TO BOOST SERVICE LEVELS

AS PART of the ongoing drive to improve customer service throughout the nation's attractions, hotels, and eateries, hundreds of businesses will today attend a major conference.

Scottish Enterprise's annual Customer Service Conference in Glasgow will welcome representatives from the private sector in a bid to help Scotland's hospitality trade improve the way it liaises with customers. Over 200 business leaders will hear from an array of speakers, including David Fairhurst, senior vice-president of McDonalds, and Ann-Marie Stagg, head of insurance services at Smile, the internet bank.

Professor John Lennon, chair of the Moffat Centre for Travel and Tourism Business development at Glasgow Caledonian University, said: "This conference gives smaller businesses access to training and approaches they normally wouldn't encounter."

VITTORIA

WITH two restaurants in the capital – one in Leith Walk, the other on George IV Bridge, Vittoria is one of Edinburgh's best-known Italian restaurant names.

Marketing itself as "Edinburgh's happiest Italian family-owned restaurants", Vittoria emphasises its service, and it did not disappoint.

When The Scotsman asked if our US businessman could have a copy of the New York Times with his dinner reservation at the Leith Walk eatery, Linda McKeown, a member of the reservations staff, e-mailed to say she had contacted her local newsagents and should be able to locate a copy.

EDINBURGH CASTLE

ITS status as Scotland's most popular paid-for attraction suggests the customer services staff at the castle can do no wrong.

The Scotsman, however, had difficulty in inquiring if our school group could visit beyond opening hours. No-one replied to our initial e-mail, and when we called the visitor helpline we were transferred to a school bookings department.

Having rung out, we were given the number to retry later. On the third attempt, we reached a member of staff, who referred us back to the main helpline, where we were told the group could still gain entry to the castle, but that the closing time could not be changed.

EDINBURGH ZOO

FOUNDED in 1913 by the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, Edinburgh Zoo is one of the most significant zoos in Europe, and is Scotland's most popular wildlife attraction, with more than 1,000 animals.

When The Scotsman contacted the zoo to see if its closing time could be extended by 30 minutes for our schoolchildren we received a prompt reply.

The zoo was "very sorry" but it would unable to meet our wishes. A customer service agent was helpful, even offering an incentive to arrive a little earlier.

"If you could arrive around 4pm, we could give you a reduction on the entry price," she explained.

ROSSLYN CHAPEL

HAVING enjoyed a remarkable boom in visitor numbers since publication in 2003 of Dan Brown's novel The Da Vinci Code, Rosslyn Chapel is now one of Scotland's most famous tourist destinations.

When we put our inquiry, no-one responded to our e-mail asking if the chapel could open for another half hour. In a follow-up telephone call yesterday, a member of the chapel's reception was sincere and apologetic, but said it would not be able to put back its closing time.

Having checked with a colleague, the person confirmed: "No, I'm sorry, it just won't be possible. The notice is just too late."

UBIQUITOUS CHIP

AN AWARD-WINNING, fashionable restaurant in Glasgow's West End, the Chip, as it is known, prides itself on quality Scottish produce.

Staff at the eatery did not reply to our initial e-mail, but on telephoning the restaurant yesterday, we were given a promise of sorts. Having explained the request to one member of staff, we were told: "I doubt it very much. No-one stocks the New York Times."

A second staff member then told us the restaurant would be able to provide a copy, albeit a printed version from the newspaper's website. "The only way to do it is to download it," she said.

MUSTARD SEED

A CONTEMPORARY addition to the burgeoning restaurant scene in Inverness, The Mustard Seed, situated on the bank of the River Ness, offers a changing menu of seafood, game, vegetarian options, and Scottish beef, and has received good reviews in the press for its food and surroundings.

Its customer service, though, may need a little tweaking. No-one from the restaurant replied to our initial e-mail, but when we telephoned yesterday, a member of staff apologised, before adding that it would not be possible to supply a copy of the New York Times, given its unavailability locally.

MALMAISON

THE luxury hotel, located in the striking venue of a converted Greek Orthodox church, now shrouded in dark shadows and velvet drapes, is considered one of Glasgow's most stylish and luxurious places to stay.

When The Scotsman, posing as a representative of a US businessman, asked whether it would be possible to book a massage and meal in the early hours, a representative e-mailed back to say the latest time a massage would be available was at 5pm.

The staff member added, however, that the kitchen would be able to prepare a small bite for our client so that he could have a "light snack in his room".

ATHOLL PALACE HOTEL

THE Atholl Palace Hotel and Spa markets itself as the "epitome of Scottish Baronial splendour" and is situated in woodland overlooking Pitlochry.

With prices as cheap as £69 for one person on a B&B basis during off-season, it offers tranquil surroundings at an affordable budget. Much is made of the four-star hotel's spa facilities, which allows it to welcome day guests, as well as holidaymakers.

The Scotsman, however, was told via e-mail that its US businessman could not receive a massage, as the staff clocked off at 7pm. For food, we were promised a "selection of sandwiches".

DRUMOSSIE HOTEL

A 44-BEDROOM hotel in Inverness, Drumossie is classed as a four-star resort by VisitScotland and markets itself as the ideal base to explore the Highlands.

On telephoning the hotel, a member of reception explained that, while they did not have any spa facilities, "an evening meal should not be a problem at that hour" for our visiting businessman. Having taken our number to confirm availability, reception staff did not call back. When we called at 5pm, we were told by a different member of staff that the catering service would be closed, but "soup and sandwiches" could be provided.



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  • Last Updated: 10 March 2008 10:07 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

subrosa,

11/03/2008 00:48:51
The sea change has to happen in the standards of the hospitality courses run by our colleges. At present they are pathetic but, like many SVQs, the students pass and then think they're fully qualified. What they don't realise is that the real work starts in the hotel/restaurant and when these 'qualified' people arrive at their place of work few can cope.

The other week I had cause to visit Gleneagles one afternoon. Behind the strange looking reception desk on the back wall, three women (employees) stood talking. Although I hovered for help not one acknowledged me until I actually spoke.

Mind you the attitude and effectiveness of any staff stems from management. If the management are skilled, efficient and on the ball then the staff will respond as they know what is expected of them. Same with any business.
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Jim Baxter RIP,

Sai Kung, Hong Kong 11/03/2008 01:00:09
Scotland is totally backward when it comes to hotel and restaurant service. Many people in the industry feel they are doing you a favour by serving you. There are many schools and colleges in the Far East which could teach Scots how to improve in the hospitality industry. I spend two weeks last year at Cameron House and was shocked by the standard of service. For a 5 star hotel, service was third rate at best. I have just spent a week at the Sheraton in Pattaya, Thailand and this five star hotel had six star service. Wake up Scotland.
3

famie,

Australia 11/03/2008 01:22:35
As a loyal Scot I have to admit that service in Scotland was sparse on my last visit and even when it did come forth there was rarely a smile. My last visit less than a year ago was so traumatic that it will take me years to recover. I could see no improvement on the previous visit which had been five years earlier. If anything it had deteriorated. Definitely less manners.
Not that it is much differnt here in the antipodes but in general we have good weather which is some compensation. The Asian peoples in general are head and shoulders above us when it comes to service. We could learn from the East if only we were not so arrogant. I dream.
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Navvy,

11/03/2008 01:27:09
I completely agree with these posts. Our only saving grace it that we are friendly as long as you are deemed not to come from south of the border.

Our concept of service is very limited and Scotland and the rest of the UK is very very expensive when compared with, say Germany. My biggest bug bear is paying per person and not per room as is the case in most of the wolrd. The cost to the establishment of a second person in the room is that of washing a couple of towels - time to change this
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CROSSED GEORGE,

England and Proud 11/03/2008 01:46:45
Scottish hospitality is fine, as long as we are spending our money, the Scots love the English when we are parting with our money, either as tourists or taxpayers. Its when we go back home, we become the scum of the earth.
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CROSSED GEORGE,

England and Proud 11/03/2008 01:51:05
Encarta, I agree with you over the attitude problem they have
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S'me,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 02:10:16
Its all so variable in areas you would think were similiar.
Last summer we ate in Tiles in St Andrews Square- the worst service I had all year, indifferent, verging on rude, the food was a reflection of that- gloop heaped on a plate.
We had exactly the same choice of meal in Ricks Bar a few days later- service was impeccable and the same choice of meal was light years away in quality- excellent.
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marmalade sandwich,

running a tourism business 11/03/2008 02:41:56
Asking a whole zoo, or Edinburgh Castle to remain open to accommmodate a school party is an unreasonable request, and the attractions were right to refuse this.

1.30 am light dinner and massage was also a pretty tall order.

New York Times request should have been possible.

But let's have some more realistic blind testing of our hospitality.
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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 11/03/2008 04:00:42
I must try asking for a copy of the Scotsman to be delivered to my New York massuer at 1.30 in the morning next time I am over.

Seriously though the quality of service in Scotland varies dramatically. You can't tar each establishment with the same brush.

Perhaps part of the problem is that tourism has not been treated seriously by decades of governments. Scotland is an excellent tourism 'product', the problem is all in the packaging. It is as an important element of the Scottish economy as say car manufacturing is to Germany.

Proper training is required for staff and also a realistic tax schedule for places like restaurants so they can invest the money back into their people and 'product'.

When in Scotland as a visitor every few years I am always conscious of being in 'rip-off Britain'.

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nabodican,

Rural Scotland 11/03/2008 07:25:28
#10 has got it right. these tests were totally unreasonable.
Our tourism industry is more than just fancy hotels in Edinburgh.
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eric,

11/03/2008 07:38:27
I agree Scotland has to try harder after all Most of Our Tourists come from England.and for 7/8,I dont look as English as scum .Most English folks are very freindly descent folks.Your welcome to Scotland anytime.
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donald,

glasgow 11/03/2008 07:40:08
The Scottish hospitality industry stinks. You are better gauin' tae somebody's hoose.
13

Jardine,

11/03/2008 07:47:30
#Crossed George, England and Proud


You, my friend, are a troll, are you not?
14

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 11/03/2008 07:49:58
As 10,11 and 12 have said, these requests are a bit over the top. Try requesting a copy of the Scotsman in America. You cant even get it in most parts of England, other than a day late. Certainly a 5 star hotel should be able to offer food at 1.30am, but a massage! Try the local knocking shop instead. Service in most shops and restaurants is poor these days with many staff lacking manners. But again the majority of customers have no manners either.
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Kate,

Zurich 11/03/2008 08:04:30
#Marmalade, I quite agree, why should the zoo stay open for a group of maybe 50 people, when they are normally catering to thousands in a day. That reeks of poor time planning by the people in charge of the school group and is not a fault of the zoos.

Again, a massage and dinner at 1.30 am? A light meal I can well understand and would expect in most establishments, but who is to say that this chap would actually want his massage at that hour!

A newspaper should be got hold of relatively easily, though...

The blind testing was not practicable, nor was it indicative of the majority of the population's wishes in hotels.

However, the service in hotels and restaurants generally is not up to that offered in equivalent places in mainland Europe and especially not in Switzerland. I would add, though, that this is not just Scotland but the whole of the UK and particularly London, which is obscenely expensive for very little quality...
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eric,

11/03/2008 08:06:49
17 I agree
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joppa jock,

Huntingdon 11/03/2008 09:03:50
#4 I must agree with your comments on Cameron House, supposed to be one of Scotland's finest hotels. I was on an off-season offer but nevertheless expected high standards. The evening meal on the set menu (printed on cheap copy paper) was so awful that we were forced to move to the expensive a-la-carte menu, but what we got was so bad that even the waitress apologised. The breakfast was fine with the exception of the porridge which was so thin that it was inedible. Having a wheelchair in our party, I had to ask at reception if they would have the hotel's vehicles removed from the disabled parking bays where they appeared to be permanently based. They boasted their own boat for trips round the loch but wanted about £40 per head for something available down the road for a couple of pounds. It was a sad and miserable experience and had we paid the full tariff price I think I'd have exploded. The midweek offer price was still a rip off.
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GP,

11/03/2008 09:05:09
The article although the tests were flawed is in the main accurate. I have had recent occasion to organise visits (conferences) to Scotland and have come across Hotels that charge high rates for room hire, function rooms within restaurants that cannot provide menu choice and restaurants that cannot service large numbers.
All in all the people are good but they just don't know what the extra yard is.
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joppa jock,

Huntingdon 11/03/2008 09:07:37
#7 Interesting comments about how the Scots only want your money. It seems that every cafe and gift shop in the Highlands is now in the hands of your English countrymen, so why not have a go at them.
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Puzzler,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 09:22:22
Scotland really needs to start offering value for money and taking a bit more customer care. Too many people in the hospitality industry - and I mean owners not staff - seem to think it is beneath them to treat their paying customers with respect. This is nowhere worse than in the highlands.

A couple of years ago I spent a week in a cottgae on Iona. We decided to go to Tobermory for the day. This cost a family of 2 adults and a child over £30 return, for a 40 minute bus trip, which had a delay on 90 minutes at Craignure. The same rigmarole applied on the way back, which meant that we lost 3 hours of our day out. At Tobermory a basic meal set us back over £40. This consisted of the cheapest possible frozen veg and pies heated up in a microwave. Their idea of a child's pizza was a slice of white bread with some tomaoto paste and cheese on it. The service was abysmal and the overall attitude of the locals shop owners (many of them rather posh incomers it has to be said) seemed to be that you should take what you were given and clear out as quickly as possible.

As a Scot travelling in my onw country, I felt personally cheated and embarassed in front of foreign visitors. A letter copied to Tobermory council, tourism office and chamber of commerce went unanswered.

There must be some way of enforcing badsivc stabdards and quality control, to ensure taht visiotors aren't being ripped off. There are plenty of other beautiful countries to visit other than Scotland and we should remember this.

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weeshooie1,

Wollongong 11/03/2008 09:29:53
A friend o' mine requested a copy of 'The Sydney Morning Herald' whilst staying at Glagow's Malmaison and the waiter brought the Daily Record. What's this? he asked, and the waiter said "Aye, it's alright Jimmy, this is the Glesga version". All he could do was laugh :0)
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Beth Boyle,

NY 11/03/2008 09:32:38
I have never felt the service too bad in Scotland with the exception of a hotel on Mull that was the biggest rip off of any place I have ever stayed in my life the the service was pathetic. All the staff was either indifferent or downright surly.
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Beth Boyle,

NY 11/03/2008 09:36:53
The Rodel Hotel on Harris was fantastic. The food was so great and we asked for a bag lunch to take on the boat trip to Saint Kilda and they made us up a wonderful one.
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Puzzler,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 09:40:42
Crossed Goerge, Don't get your hopes up, I have travelled all over England and the same poor service is on offer down there. this is a peculiarly British problem. Personally I think we have an arrogance left over from the days of Empire and this is worst of all in London and the south east.

An honourable exception is north Derbyshire. I lived there for 9 years and wherever we went the poeple were pleasant helpful and friendly. Well worth a visit for the scenery alone.

Oh, and just for the record my mother is from Liverpool and I spoke with a scouse accent until aged 6, so I don't buy into any of this anti-English nonsense.

However, you might want to meditate on the phrase "poeple in Glass houses shoudln't throw stones" . English people are not noted for their warm and friendly attitude towards outsiders, and that includes tourists.
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lac,

temporarily in NZ 11/03/2008 09:55:59
What a fuss about nothing: these are all totally unreasonable requests - tour organisaers need to get their act together and visit Scottish attractions during widely publicised opening hours; yanks should arrive at their hotels during normal business hours; and visitors should convert to reading quality 'papers such as the 'Sunday Post' when on Scottish shores. For goodness sake!! Signed ex Scottish hotelier
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yockel,

11/03/2008 10:34:15
Lets be honest we are not bad at hopitality and things have improved a lot since the Eastern Europeans came to give us a hand. Last time I walked out in disgust the whinging incompetent condescending member of staff in question was English.
We do need to improve on feeding visitors who find the deep fried pie or pizza a bit much by the 7th day and yes the incomer island hotelier, "we are at the end of the supply line" excuse was well worn out over 20 years ago.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 11/03/2008 11:12:59
That poster who said a request for a copy of The Scotsman would take a few days is strange.

To request a hardcopy of The Scotsman anywhere is mostly an impossibility because most hotels, even the high-priced and world-famous one just carry the local newspapers, the NYT, The Times perhaps, and leave the local newspaper at your door in the morining.

If one is so ravenous to read the Scotsman, then go to the website as most hotels now have free internet access.

Problem solved.

And who would expect a request for a masseur(euse) at 1 a.m. to be fulfilled? This is sheer lunacy to expect a hotel to have such specialised staff "on-call" for the request of that type that may come maybe once or twice a year.

If you want a masseur(euse) go to the local rags and book one - with "added services" or not. They operate at all hours or so I have been told.
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shawfield,

glasgow 11/03/2008 11:13:44
Scotlands hospitality and openness for business to tourists and even native travelers is deplorable.
When for instance will there be sanitary and adequate services on the main artery the A9!

Its almost dewatering season in the laybys

Rip it out and start again, if ever there was a start in the first place.
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stmonan,

London 11/03/2008 11:28:01
I agree these are ridiculous requests and the fact these diva-esque demands can't be satisfied doesn't prove that much. The depressing thing is that far more mundane requests can't be satisfied either in my experience, e.g.:

-I know it's 2.30 but is there any chance of a spot of lunch?

-We are a football team so would prefer 6 twin rooms rather than double rooms please, especially as that's what we thought we'd booked.

-Could you do breakfast any later than 8.30am please?

-do you mind if I bring our baby along for dinner around 5pm?
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yockel,

11/03/2008 11:29:44
#31 shawfield, I understand the police have now dropped their opposition to facilities along the A9. Road traffic management as a subject seems to be more damaging to the brain and pregnancy.
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yockel,

11/03/2008 11:30:21
opps and = than
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Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 11/03/2008 11:46:26
Having worked in the Hotel and Catering industry I have to say a lot of the conditions that staff are working under need to be changed. Perhaps this might make a difference as far as civility and cordiality are concerned....saying that...

Some of the B&Bs in Scotland are run by characters from a sitcom depicting Scottish stereotypes...ever been accused of using too much water in the shower!

Mind you there was the one in Wales...breakfast at 8.30am on the dot and out of your room between 12 and 4.30!....
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Beergut,

Embra 11/03/2008 11:51:43
This has got to be a spoof take-off of "Fawlty Towers". Anyone tried to get food in America at 1 o'clock in the morning lately?
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yockel,

11/03/2008 11:56:50
#36 Beergut, food in America? I would take a packed lunch if I were you.
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AntiAnti,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 12:35:01
Until the greedy hoteliers etc wise up and realise that they must take better care of their staff, Scotland will always face poor standards of service.
Caring for staff means better wages, training & benefits and less of the 'master and servant'. Hospitality staff already take enough abuse from clients without having it ladled out by superiors who they work with.
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Invitrospud,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 12:51:32
I've just spent 3 nights at a hotel in Argyll. Sevice was fine, but then only two of the staff that I met were Scots. The rest were a mixture of Polish, Indian and English. I've nothing against foreign staff but it would have been nice to have been served by either natives or locals. just to get a feel for the place. I always take my holidays in Scotland but it is far too expensive. We really must stop ripping off innocent tourists and ourselves!
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 11/03/2008 13:58:08
#12 The fact that these requests seemed reasonable to the Scotsman tell us a lot about the Scotsman. Out of touch, irrelevant and anti-Scottish.
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AJ Fife,

11/03/2008 14:08:29
Nae mention o' BBQ King Kebab shop in Methil - that's shockin' btw!

A bet ye dinny get the offer o' a qtr o' blaw in the posh places mentioned above. They could learn a thing or twa fae boys like Amhed.....
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 11/03/2008 14:10:23
In my experience the top Scottish hotels are amongst the best in the world. Many of these are country house hotels such as the Pitoddrie House Hotel in Aberdeenshire. The scenery, service and food in this type of hotel is second to none. The problem comes with the less traditional, downmarket hotel or restaurant serving non-traditional food. Generally these are best avoided as very few will deliver the required level of service.
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11/03/2008 14:23:47
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stmonan,

London 11/03/2008 14:31:03
I don't particularly mind whether the staff are Scottish, Eastern European or where they come from. I just resent being charged top whack prices for minimum-wage, McJob service, regardless of how beautiful the surroundings are or how nice the food is. It evidences a slovenliness in providing service and a penny-pinching mentality, and it's not the fault of the staff themselves but the employer.

If you are charging £40 or thereabouts for a 3-course meal you expect it served by someone capable of doing the job, describing the food and adding to the overall experience, a skilled professional who gets paid accordingly. Not some kind of hypertense adolescent relative of the proprietor unable to form words or a non-English speaker - which is what you get more often than not in Scottish country hotels.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 11/03/2008 14:31:04
#43 Kenny, I have some upsetting news for you, you spelled "illiterates" wrongly.
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Jock Smith,

Waukesha, USA 11/03/2008 14:43:10
as a Scot, I try to encourage people from here in the USA to visit my native land, and organize small groups
I am bringing a group of 11 with me on the 14th of march this year, and worry about the service we will receive, B/B and hotels which charge per head not per room,and the off-handed way staff have treated guests in past visits. Food and amenites were poor, but I still try with the hope that things will improve next time. Ever hopeful.
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Chenamoose,

Camp Hill 11/03/2008 16:52:56
As recent visitor (2 years ago before the dollar plunge) I would give high marks for customer service generally in Scotland.
However, when it comes to value/cost we learned quickly that the prices, which looked reasonable in dollars were actually twice as much. This held true especially in NON top of the line dining and lodging.
Love the country love the people but tourism comes at a very steep price.
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CROSSED GEORGE,

England 11/03/2008 18:12:05
Puzzler,Edinburgh 11/03/2008 09:40:42
Crossed Goerge, Don't get your hopes up, I have travelled all over England and the same poor service is on offer down there. this is a peculiarly British problem. Personally I think we have an arrogance left over from the days of Empire and this is worst of all in London and the south east.

An honourable exception is north Derbyshire. I lived there for 9 years and wherever we went the poeple were pleasant helpful and friendly. Well worth a visit for the scenery alone.

Oh, and just for the record my mother is from Liverpool and I spoke with a scouse accent until aged 6, so I don't buy into any of this anti-English nonsense.

However, you might want to meditate on the phrase "poeple in Glass houses shoudln't throw stones" . English people are not noted for their warm and friendly attitude towards outsiders, and that includes tourists

GLASS HOUSES, WELL BEFORE YOU HAVE A GO AT ENGLISH, IF YOUR MOTHER IS A SCOUSER THAT MAKES YOU..........HALF ENGLISH DOESN'T IT
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CROSSED GEORGE,

ENGLAND 11/03/2008 18:16:22
eric,11/03/2008 07:38:27
I agree Scotland has to try harder after all Most of Our Tourists come from England.and for 7/8,I dont look as English as scum .Most English folks are very freindly descent folks.Your welcome to Scotland anytime

I MOVED TO SCOTLAND TOTALLY OPEN MINDED, OBLIVIOUS TO THE EXTENT OF ALL THIS ANTI ENGLISH RUBBISH. HAVING BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END MANY TIMES, I MOVED BACK HOME, THANK GOODNESS. Maybe you personally don't look down on us as scum, but a growing number of your countrymen do and are doing your country no favours. I beg to differ on the we are welcome in Scotland bit though
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james 1st,

hamilton 11/03/2008 21:31:45
poor serviceis not fust a scottish problem, service in england in shops and hotels is also very poor. the uk is a far too expensive holiday option.
whilst i agree that service is often poor i must say that all historic scotland attractions we visited were well run by helpful friendly staff.
i think the majority of the tests the scotsman used were poorly planned, i would not see the louvre ,eiffel tower, st pauls basillica, nor the statue of liberty being kept open in a similar situation.
if you are going to run a test at least make it plausible, garbage article not worthy of any decent newspaper
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mccaulek,

Michigan, USA 11/03/2008 21:34:47
Maybe it's just the English, but I found Scotland to be full of wonderfully friendly people, the food was great, and service was better than in the USA. But then, a smile or a please or a thank you don't hurt.
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FerryPort,

Fife 11/03/2008 22:34:08
I have reported Hen Broon, idiot, for the use of innapproriate and sexualised language, let alone the racist element (and he is not alone) Let's get a grip here. This is not a good advert for anyone. This is just feedback about an article on food, accomodation and services here in Scotland. We can all improve and increase the peace.
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Scotlass66,

Syracuse NY 11/03/2008 22:54:19
Last summer, my daughter and I along with 4 other female relatives spent two weeks in Scotland (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness, Skye) and enjoyed friendly service and cheerfully given help.Certainy no worse, and in some cases better, than here in the US. Looking forward to our next visit.
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Resolutions,

12/03/2008 19:08:18
I find this article just after the Trump debacle rather enlightening.
The 'tests' were not exactly the most appropriate in any situation, but the response to them is not the best. The hospitality industry is not our leading shining example although there are some excellent places.
There is room for a great deal of improvement.

The NE better take note. Some there think that they are the bees knees in everything and are self appointed spokespeople. Aberdeen hotels are very expensive - the dearest in Europe and until they give value for it, the industry will not improve.

#46 Charges per room have never been the norm here or south of the Border, nor in Ireland. I think last November we were charged per person in France too. It is the way things are done. We adapted in USA. Surely you can too?
55

Resolutions,

12/03/2008 19:13:50
Oh and Crossed George

Ever occurred to you that your attitude in a country, just might not make you very popular ANYWHERE?

This has been observed in Europe often enough, never mind here in Scotland.
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mFIC,

edinburgh 13/03/2008 09:01:33
apart from stimulating the debate, the article itself is based on a ludicrous premise (ie 110% unreasonable demands) of the sort normally applied by reality TV, shock jocks or the Beano

 

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