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Published Date: 02 December 2008
SCHOOLS across Edinburgh are facing fresh cuts with headteachers being told to wipe tens of thousands of pounds from their budgets.
Secondary schools face losing in the region of £80,000 per year, while primaries will lose an average of £20,000 if the expected two per cent "efficiency savings" are agreed in February's budget.

The savings will mean headteachers face a tough job trying to balance their already tight budgets, especially as it comes on top of last year's 1.5 per cent savings.

Schools would also be forced to reduce spending on a range of services – including things like school counsellors and holiday study sessions – and will also have to cut back on the provision of basic materials like textbooks, jotters, photocopies, paper and art supplies. Repairs and maintenance are also expected to be hit.

Headteachers are known to be looking at how they would implement the savings, but the city council insists no final decisions have been taken.

Martyn Quinn, chairman of Craigmount High School's parent council, said they would have to axe a support department for youngsters with behavioural problems, the school counsellor and the Easter study programme.

He said: "We find the term efficiency saving quite insulting really because we have made all the savings we can in the last year and this is cutting into the main body of the school.

"This is a big worry and it's a big headache for the school.

"If this goes ahead, it will be very detrimental to children's learning in Edinburgh's schools."

At Stockbridge Primary, having to find two per cent savings will leave the school nearly £14,000 out of pocket. This means the school would have to make savings on supplies like books and also on basic things like paper towels and soap and on general repairs and maintenance.

Claire Cowell, chair of the school's parent council, said: "The last thing that headteachers want to start cutting is staffing, so really what they're left with is having to apply these cuts to what is left for general running costs of the school."

Councillor Ricky Henderson, Labour's education spokesman, said he shared parents' concerns about the potential cuts and would be calling on the council not to pass cuts on to schools.

The council insists no decisions have yet been taken on February's budget and no figures have been agreed with regards to savings in schools.

Education leader Marilyne MacLaren said: "We have not yet met with the schools about the budget, but in the coming weeks I will be sitting down with headteachers and parents to discuss it.

"It is worth remembering that the budget will not be set for another two-and-a-half months."


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  • Last Updated: 02 December 2008 12:52 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

TonyBLiar,

with Hilary and Bill 02/12/2008 12:17:53
well if these schools still have business managers on their staff at £30k salaries - its time for them to go
2

Mr Crisps,

Musselburgh 02/12/2008 12:28:31
Spend the savings on XBoxes like East Lothian Council did?
3

Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 02/12/2008 12:57:09
Any proposals for a 2% cut in budgets should be called a cut, and not dressed up as efficiency. Efficiency would be doing the same with less money, but if schools are truly having to economise on books, paper towels, and building maintenance - then that is anything but efficient - it's daft.

#1 and #2. See me after class.
4

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 12:58:27
Councillor Marilyne MacLaren says that the budget won't be agreed for another two months or so, as if that makes a difference about anything. She knows fine well she's going to be pushing through these cuts, and putting off the evil day shows that she'd rather spin than defend what she's up to. And the SNP group and the Lib Dem group will back her (though the SNP councillors will no doubt pretend they aren't, the hypocrites).

Listen to her - "It is worth remembering that the budget will not be set for another two-and-a-half months."

Why is it worth remembering? Why is anything she says worth remembering? Is that not the emptiest, most meaningless statement ever? I wish the reporter had asked that question and had insisted on an answer.

Moral cowardice of the worst kind.

The Lib Dems and SNP are plannng to cut children's education to the bone.

Again.

This is what you get when you elect these people to positions of power.

Cuts, evasions, procrastination, denial.

In Edinburgh, in Fife, in Aberdeen, wherever they get their hands on publlic services.
5

Mr Crisps,

Musselburgh 02/12/2008 13:02:50
#4

"These people"? Who? Lib Dems and SNP?

Aye, Labour fair splashed out didn't they? Handing over a crumbling under-maintained school estate to the new coalition?
6

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 13:06:42
That got me thinking, why do people vote Lib Dem in Edinburgh? So I went onto their website (which hasn't been updated for 18 months, by the way). This is what it says -

The Liberal Democrats exist to build and safeguard a fair, free and open society, in which we seek to balance the fundamental values of liberty, equality and community, and in which no-one shall be enslaved by poverty, ignorance or conformity.

Does Councillor Marilyne McLaren's behaviour as reported in the story fit in with this rhetoric? Did anyone who voted for this bunch of service cutters expect this?

7

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 13:10:49
Mr Crisp, people in Edinburgh, in Fife, in Aberdeen, and other paces no doubt voted for the SNP and Lib Dems at council elections expecting better services. What they have been getting is cuts, evasions, procrastination, denial. Cllr McLaren exemplifies this. Why is it worth remembering that the budget will not be set for another two-and-a-half months? Did the peole who voted for them expect this kind of attitude?
8

mad moo,

edinburgh 02/12/2008 13:12:39
Perhaps if the Council's Educational department and headteachers worked with the community and parent councils' to allow the use of schools to host other community events (youth clubs, sports and arts clubs, intergenerational projects, community fayres etc) this would bring in more income for schools and encourage other organisations and businesses to provide additional support for the schools.
9

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 13:20:18
Mr Crisps, I took a few minures to check the facts before responding to your substantive remanrks.

Labour opened 34 new or refurbished schools in Edinburgh in its time in office, and spent millions on development and maintenance.

The Lib Dems and SNP.... didn't.
10

Xena - Warrior Princess,

02/12/2008 13:22:12
Is this because of the Council Tax freeze? It's brilliant in my pocket but not for council services.
11

seanie,

02/12/2008 13:28:35
Perhaps if we just shut the schools and sold them off, then the Council would have enough money to buy Jenny Dawe some nice new robes, take all the Councillors on a well earned holiday to India, and still have money to fund Concillor MacLaren's heroic, single-handed attempt to boost to the city's taxi trade.



12

Spock,

02/12/2008 13:30:38
Education leader Marilyne MacLaren said: "We have not yet met with the schools about the budget, but in the coming weeks I will be sitting down with headteachers and parents to discuss it."

The Headteachers have no choice but I doubt the parents will be wanting to have a discussion with Ms MacLaren after the way she showed her contempt for them on the school closure issue.
13

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 13:46:56
Is anyone from the Lib Dems or SNP, or even anyone who voted for them, prepared to defend Cllr MacLaren for saying "It is worth remembering that the budget will not be set for another two-and-a-half months?"
14

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 13:48:47
I thoght it was Cllr Cardownie who was the real expert on the taxi trade in Edinburgh, what with all his connections with much-respected-members-of-the-local-business-community.
15

ddmc,

02/12/2008 14:16:12
#10 you mean mortaged the public purse for the next 25 years, even Unison don't agree with it.

http://www.unison-edinburgh.org.uk/pfi.html
16

Fifi la Bonbon,

02/12/2008 14:28:35
#16 - Unison agreeing with something isn't necessarily the absolute mark of quality. Labour leadership in Edinburgh meant new and refurbished schools.

The Lib Dems and SNP.... didn't.
17

Mr Crisps,

Musselburgh 02/12/2008 14:53:20
#10.

How long has the SNP/LD lot been in charge? How much inertia is there from Labour's period in charge?

I am not going to judge anyone's performance until they've had a chance to show their mettle over an extended time period. Such as the time period Labour had to build up the impressive record you quote! How many years were those achievements made over?
18

Top Floor,

02/12/2008 17:03:30
#18 Mr Crisps

Aye, you're right up to a point. Can't judge the "brick for brick" promise until nearer the end of this term.

However the 34 new or refurbished schools figure was achieved in the 8 years 1999 - 2007.

My arithmetic's a bit rough but that works out at 4.25 schools a year, yes ?

The current SNP Govt and SNP/LibDem Council have been in for 19 months - current schools projects commissioned = 0

That's zero, naught, nowt, sweet FA.

Not very promising so far is it ?






19

ddmc,

02/12/2008 17:11:00
#17 my point was even die-hard labour unions dont agree with a build now pay later approach. But at least the kids of today & tax payers of the future will understand why there still paying private consortiums lots of dosh, i just hope the schools last as long as 25+ years.

20

seanie,

02/12/2008 18:13:48
I think most die-hard labour unions are OK with a build now pay later approach, but would prefer it to be done via public rather than private borrowing.
21

nozza, born n bred bingham now living in newcastle,

cramlington 02/12/2008 19:20:10
come on, what the hell is going on? the kids that go to theis schools are the life blood of our society, we're supposed to be looking after them, the government are supposed to look after us all! again the local government and local council are only interested in looking after their selves and to hell with the kids. surprise surprise!
22

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 02/12/2008 19:58:07
Fifi you dumpling, Glasgow - a Labour controlled council, are cutting back on teachers, never mind text books. Stop being silly.
23

Save the cheerleader - save the world,

02/12/2008 20:01:04
This latest round of SNP/Lib Dem cuts is disappointing but not surprising.

Why should the likes of Marilyne MacLaren care about our kids' schools? They don't send their own kids there.

Still, maybe schools could use this opportunity to raise funds by opening a sweep on which SNP councillor will start blubbing first, after voting for the cuts?
24

Fifi la Bonbon,

It is worth remembering that the budget will not b 02/12/2008 20:03:34
So, over the eight years 1999-2007 it is accepted by all that Labour used the resources available to it to build or refurbish 34 schools - four a year.

The Lib Dems and SNP have been in power for eighteen months and built or refurbished... none.

Now we have Cllr Marilyne McLaren tellng us with as straight a face as she can manage - "It is worth remembering that the budget will not be set for another two-and-a-half months."

Will the Lib Dem/SNP regime build and refurbish six schools in that time, to just get us back to the rate of progress under Labour? Or will Cllr McLaren just keep spinning?

Here's the record:

Labour - four new or refurbished schools a year.

SNP/ Lib Dems - Labour - no new or refurbished schools a year. Not a sausage. Nothing. Just more cuts.

Still, could be worse - we might be in Aberdeen, where the Lib Dems and SNP are now celebrating six years in power, and the city has had its accounts qualified by auditors, the Chief Executive booted out, and massive cuts in jobs and services.
25

radge dug,

02/12/2008 21:26:31
Labour's black hole from the past decade catches up with us.
26

Edinburghhonestman,

Edinburgh 02/12/2008 21:46:31
So Labour built 4 schools a year. Maybe the Lib/SNP alliance haven't had enough time yet to get up to speed. I'll judge them on that at the next election.

What they are doing, though, is cutting frontline education services. Last year schools had their budgets cut by 1.5% and this year it might be another 2%. We didn't get that under Labour.
27

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 02/12/2008 23:35:29
I don't think there is much to choose between any of the political groups.

It was under the Labour administration that the budget for building schools was transferred to the City Development budget. The highest priority of that department was and is to deliver trams, so the question I would ask is why it is more important to pay a £45m contribution (plus any shortfall in construction costs) for a tramline, than to build replacement schools?
28

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 02/12/2008 23:54:05
#9
Then the insurance premiums go up as they have to take into account the increased number of "strangers" on the premises.

Even something as simple as sharing a swimming pool or gymnasium would require changing rooms to be upgraded to commercial standards.
29

Fifi la Bonbon,

03/12/2008 12:01:31
After all the palaver, there's only one set of figures that count -

Labour - four new and refurbished schools each year.

Lib Dem/ SNP - no new and refurbished schools each year, with huge cuts in spending to boot.

And a Lib Dem Education convener who genuinely seems to believe that "it is worth remembering that the budget will not be set for another two-and-a-half months." As if there's some magic bunny to be pulled out of a hat.

 

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