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Published Date:
07 December 2006
TRAMS could return to the streets of Glasgow under plans to relieve growth pressure at the two main railway stations.
The proposal by the Scottish Executive's transport agency comes as plans were announced for the biggest shake-up in west coast ferry services for decades.

Transport Scotland said some of Glasgow's suburban rail lines could be converted to carry t
rams, which would run into the city centre on roads to free space at Central and Queen Street stations for more longer-distance trains.

The Cathcart circle line, which runs between Central station and the southside of the city, is seen as a prime candidate.

"The agency said the scheme would be considered for 2014-20 if studies showed there was a strong case.

Glasgow was the last UK city to have trams - until 1962. London and four other English cities have reintroduced trams, and Edinburgh is due to join them in 2011, but a proposed line in Glasgow was rejected a decade ago.

A spokesman for Transport Scotland said: "Trams are a potential solution to capacity bottlenecks and on lines where stations are close together, such as on the Cathcart circle."

Glasgow City Council agreed the tram move could enable passenger growth at the main stations, and said disused tunnels and track beds should also be considered. However, Passenger Focus, the official rail watchdog, said connections must be maintained for people changing trains to other destinations.

The Executive has also proposed a wholesale overhaul of the Caledonian MacBrayne route network after the tendering process, forced by European laws, is completed next year.

Its new national transport strategy, published this week, said there would be a "comprehensive review of lifeline ferry services to develop a long-term strategy to 2025". Changes would be made for the second tender period, following the first five-year contract to 2012.



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1

David n' Goliath,

Edinburgh 07/12/2006 01:50:03

Reinstate St Enoch mainline station. Plenty of extra platforms for more trains and possibly Glasgow's terminus for Anglo-Scottish high-speed rail?
We're good at reinstating old railway lines in Scotland, not so good at designing new stuff or bringing in new tram systems cheaply!

2

Navvy,

07/12/2006 05:01:57

StEnoch for the high speed train to edinburgh

2014 at the earliest! That's a measure of glasgow's vision, may the good lord help us

3

donald,

weegieland 07/12/2006 07:36:37

Reinstate Maryhill Railway Station

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Guga,

Rockall 07/12/2006 08:31:18

As far as I know, the trams in Melbourne are still moving huge numbers of people, efficiently and quickly, and at a reasonable cost. So, maybe trams back in Glasgow is not such a bad idea.

I don't know if it would work in Edinburgh though, as they have halved the size of their roads with all their bus lanes. This may be something to do with the size of brains of Edinburgh councillors.

7

Nisbet,

Edinburgh 07/12/2006 08:35:35

I wish they would hurry up. I'm a member of the official Scottish tram polo team. The facilities here are atrocious!

8

wayne bijlyeerheid,

07/12/2006 09:03:59

If the Labour Party had listened to the population of the city at the time they would never have got rid of them in the first place.
Politicians, so far sighted.

9

Digit,

West Pilton 07/12/2006 10:05:28

#4 A tram between Maryhill and Easterhouse?

it would be on fire after 1 journey.

10

rab, glasgow,

07/12/2006 10:28:56

Another pathetic soundbite by the executive arses.
Nothing will come of this rubbish, just more lies.

11

GP,

07/12/2006 10:46:42

A sop to the west of scotland labour voters with promises of more subsidised jobs and travel.

What a wasted opportunity.

12

SouthernSkye,

Germany 07/12/2006 15:09:39

Why trams?
Why not more busses (gas powered bendy-busses al la Netherlands/Germany/Sweden etc)?
Why not trolley busses (still used in China at least)?
Why not a monorail (as recently completed in Nice in southern France)?
Why not simply use the money that would be used for re-introducing an old system and use it to update the current systems, increase efficiency, increase capacity/regularity and reduce fares/subsidise it?

13

Brad,

Glasgow 07/12/2006 15:40:41

Probably because, #13, because people don't really like buses (inc trolley buses, I suppose). A monorail would probably need far more expensive new infrastructure than trams which use the existing rail network for much of their routes.

The idea seems to be to use the rail network outside of the main stations but to divert local trains (which become trams) out of the congested stations themselves. Queen Street and Central are just about at full capacity and can't be expanded very much since there's a limit on space in the stations and in/on the tunnels and bridges approaching them.

All that said, I'll believe when I one shoogling along the road.

14

Andrew,

Scotland 07/12/2006 19:32:52

St Enoch - High Speed trains in a shopping mall??
Maryhill Park station on the old Glasgow, Dumbarton & Helensburgh railway HAS BEEN REOPENED! Maryhill Central under the shopping mall (as proposed) would be an ideal tram stop!

15

Andrew,

Scotland 07/12/2006 19:36:05

10 Yes, you've got to be careful with electricity, it can and does start fires!!!

16

Doreen,

The Cyber Shebeen 07/12/2006 20:30:55

4...correct they have been waffling on about it for years but havent they sent all the old trams off to China?

17

The Ghost of Sir William Arrol,

The forthy bridge 07/12/2006 23:08:01

15 Andrew. I think we'd close the mall first and rebuild the station. Most stations and airports are shopping malls anyway so some shops could go back. I don't think the St Enoch mall in Glasgow is a great success as it is so it would probably not be missed. LOL

18

Brad,

Glasgow 08/12/2006 12:53:45

Don't think the owners would be too chuffed (ha!) - I've read they're about to spend £100 doing it up.

19

Brad,

Glasgow 08/12/2006 12:54:16

Or was that £100m...? Where's me specs...

20

eric,

Lothian 08/12/2006 14:32:52

I remember the Old St Enoch Hotel and Station ,It was a Brilliant Building,The St Enoch centre is to be enlarged Onto Stcockwell street ,With Cafe bars Nightclub cinema,They are looking to extend the Underground in Glasgow ,Probably best option.

21

Mark,

09/12/2006 15:50:39

Re-opening the old St. Enoch station is simply a no-go. Like someone already said, their is a £100 expansion and revamp of the maill.

22

Andrew Porter,

New York City 09/12/2006 19:41:28

When I was in Glasgow for a convention in 2005, I realized that those weird metal brackets attached to the buildings on Argyle Street are the old attachments which held the electric wires for the trams. Conversations with locals confirmed that the original tracks are still there, under the current asphalt street coverings. It might be far easier than you think to restore tram (streetcar) service in the center of your city!

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eric,

12/12/2006 08:28:04

23 Thats true Andrew .I grew up around those streets as a kid in early 60s,And there is Lines under the tarmac,Also disused railways all over the city .So it wouldnt cost £500m like Edinburgh is trying to do ,Either that or Extend the Subway


 

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