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Published Date: 07 December 2008
THERE'S trouble ahead. And the evidence is there for all to see in black and white. I admit I approached the Calman Commission's interim report, published last Tuesday, with a feeling of dread. And I was right to be worried. I read it with rising trepidation and it wasn't long before alarm bells started clanging in my head.

It appears I had misunderstood what Calman was all about. To my mind the commission's primary function was to make Government work better for the people of Scotland. The aim was to modernise Scottish devolution; to give more financial powers to Hol
yrood; to re-examine the assumptions that give Westminster the sole right to make decisions about Scotland's drug laws, to name just one glaring inconsistency.

But when I read the report I was left with a very different understanding of Calman's intentions. For some reason he seems to have taken it upon himself to reform the entire United Kingdom, coming up with a whole new theory about how it should operate – philosophically, economically and politically. Updating devolution to meet Scotland's changing needs and ambitions is a big enough task. But Calman seems determined to take on a bigger challenge – a constitutional version of the Theory of Everything.

Calman used the report to rule out full fiscal autonomy for Holyrood on the grounds that it wasn't "consistent with the key principles of the Union". Eh? What are these key principles, exactly? And who decided them? In 20 years of reporting on Scottish politics, they seem to have passed me by. To my mind, what keeps the Union together is any combination of policies that keeps Scots voting for Unionist parties. As simple as that. There are no lines that cannot be crossed, no powers or areas of influence that are sacrosanct and have to remain Westminster's by divine right.

And why is Calman trying to wear such a bewildering array of hats? Why is he taking the position of the Englishman who is concerned about the high level of public spending north of the border? Or pondering the dilemma faced by UK Government ministers on how to give different parts of Britain a fair share of public spending? Surely these are matters beyond Calman's competence? Doesn't this risk a very real backlash from south of the border as the English express their resentment at 14 Scots deciding what is best for them?

Calman's approach seems in marked contrast to that of the Scottish Constitutional Convention's Claim of Right in the 1990s, which simply stated what Scotland wanted and then challenged the UK Government to deliver it.

My worry is that Calman has lost sight of the fact that his commission was set up by the Scottish Parliament. Not the Westminster Parliament. Or the Westminster Government. He owes his first allegiance to Holyrood. My suspicion is that instead of acting as Scotland's champion, Calman may end up doing Westminster's dirty work.

There were, I admit, some glimmers of encouragement. For example, Calman's list of no-go areas for Holyrood were: defence, national security, foreign policy, the monarchy, the constitution, currency and corporation tax. Now, I might have quibbles on foreign policy – what about the Scottish Government's right of representation in Europe on issues that are wholly devolved, for example – but it is, encouragingly, not a very long list. More worrying, however, is Calman's apparent obsession with what the English make of us. It is worth quoting one passage from his report at length.

"Devolution as it stands would in principle allow for a fundamentally different welfare provision in Scotland or in England, at least in relation to health or education. But there may be a case for a broadly common social citizenship across the UK, even though there will be some scope for Scottish differences and, if so, does a common understanding of what that involves need to be more clearly articulated?"

To my eye, this is in danger of undermining some basic principles of devolution that we have taken for granted over the past decade. The right, for example, to have free personal care for the elderly in Scotland because we believe this reflects our values and beliefs, irrespective of what the Westminster Government feels is appropriate for England. We cannot be always looking over our shoulder at our English neighbours while deciding what is best for ourselves. As long as the funding system for Scotland is equitable, and fairly reflects Scottish topography and demography, there should be no restriction on how we spend our money in the areas where we have legal responsibility.

Calman should stick to the basics. Can Scotland's growing sense of confidence be done justice within the Union? And if so, how? What new economic powers would allow a Scottish Government to respond effectively to economic difficulties? Does Westminster rule over key aspects of Scottish life such as drugs and welfare make sense? How do we make the Scottish Government truly accountable for its own actions? There is a debate to be had about the future of Britain – one that includes voices from the English regions. But this is not the time and the Calman Commission is not the forum. The job in hand is to decide what is best for Scotland. Then to look at how it can be accommodated within the United Kingdom. The first is Calman's job and the second is the UK Government's. Calman should stick to the brief.





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1

subrosa,

07/12/2008 02:08:54
Excellent article Kenny. Well said.
2

donald,

glasgow 07/12/2008 06:44:38
Yup. Not enough Kennys in the tame media pack.
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 07/12/2008 06:47:42
It would appear that some Scotsmen do know what is happening at this present time, chance for the Old Country yet. Or am I just biased.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 07:24:23
Re: "we believe this reflects our values and beliefs"

Ugh! Wha’s like us, eh? Kenny, please deconstruct that comment. You’re dangerously close to the stated view of ex-SNP vice president, Paul Henderson Scott, who contends that Scots are innately superior to English people. Incidentally, George Kerevan is on the record stating that he believes Alex Salmond thinks similarly (although of course Salmond wouldn’t make such comments in public).
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Agent 99,

07/12/2008 09:08:24
[4] AM2: Wrong, and not for the first time.

Of course the Scots are innately superior to the English: At deciding what's best for Scotland.

The whole problem here is unwanted English meddling in affairs that are rightly the domain of the Scots.

Good analysis Mr. Farquharson.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 09:34:04
#5 Agent 99

I didn't have to scratch the surface too much, did I? "Unwanted English meddling", you say. What a nauseating way of thinking!

Tell me, are you similarly vexed by Borderers having a say in what happens in the Highlands, or of Glaswegian votes affecting events in Edinburgh?

And how do you feel about the fact that almost 10% of people living in Scotland are in fact English? Are they innately inferior too? Should they have less of a say in devolved matters? Second-class citizenry, perhaps?
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/12/2008 09:52:45
#4 AM2

"George Kerevan is on the record stating that he believes Alex Salmond thinks similarly (although of course Salmond wouldn’t make such comments in public)."

Laughable logic there AM. Kerevan has an opinion about Salmond and for you this makes it true.

I happen to think you are dishonest and manipulative. Does that also make it true?
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Calum10,

07/12/2008 09:57:18
When Sir Kenneth Calman was asked by a journalist what was the most important issue his commission has to address over the next 12 months he answered, "Animal welfare."

Yes that's right animal welfare!

Let's repeat that so it sinks in - ANIMAL WELFARE.

The Scottish Parliament, to it's intense embarrassment, now has a body of people investigating the welfare of mice but not men, nor women and children.

The political prespective is illuminating. The LibDems dumped their own Steele report for Calman. Calman has now made them look stupid. The Tories are desperate that Calman comes up with something substantial. Even Labour MSPs are increasingly worried that Calman will not give then a radical platform to fight the next Scottish election.

The danger for all three Unionist parties is that if Calman does not produce the goods after spending £1 million over a period of 2 years Scots will conclude that the Union itself has failed Scotland.

In summary;

The Calman Commission:

IT CAME

IT SAW

IT SQUEAKED (and scurried back to it's hole)
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 10:03:30
#7 connaughtboy

I didn't claim that it was true, not am I in a position to make that judgement. But Kerevan is Associate Editor of this newspaper and the SNP's Westminster candidate for Edinburgh East, so any views he may have of Alex Salmond are certainly worthy of note.

You, on the other hand, are an infamous nationalist cyberactivist. So your unfounded accusations are of no consequence. ;-)
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 10:04:08
Excellent, objective article. Well done Kenny.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 10:04:14
Typo: "...nor am I in a position to make that judgement."
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 10:05:38
AM2
"You ... are an infamous ... cyberactivist. So your unfounded accusations are of no consequence."

Pot, kettle ...
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 10:06:50
#10 tartan army 2222

I certainly don't claim to be objective, and Kenny Farquharson has in the past expressed a "temptation" to vote for separation from the rest of Britain, so neither is he.
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 10:09:05
That doesn't mean he can't write an objective article.
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 10:11:16
13 am2

He's 'tempted' to vote for independence. Wow. Tempted! 60%+ of the Scottish population either want independence or are 'tempted' to vote for it.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 10:11:16
#12 tartan army 2222

Stripping the wink ;-) from the end of my reply to Connaughtboy changes its meaning. I was merely ribbing him in order to make the point that Kerevan is a high-profile SNP member and prospective parliamentarian, so his first-hand knowledge of Alex Salmond is likely to be rather greater than either Connaughtboy's or mine.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 07/12/2008 10:13:12
#15 tartan army 2222

Ah, that'll be a convenient misapplication of those dodgy poll questions along the lines of "if the martians landed, would you be more or less likely to vote for xyz".

Anyway, I've posted too much already. Later, mon ami.
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 10:14:07
I did see the wink but weighed that up with the fact you seem to have no sense of humour and came to the conclusion that you weren't joking.
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 10:14:57
#17

Surprised there's no link in this reply. Shocked in fact.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/12/2008 10:22:49
#9 AM2

I think that any fair-minded person would agree that you were trying to equate the opinions of others with fact. Implicitly or otherwise.

This is par for the course for you.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/12/2008 10:28:08
#16 And for you this makes it fact. That is why I accuse you of being manipulative. You know exactly what you are doing and you know exactly why I am holding you to account.

You may be a lot of things AM but you are not stupid !
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John S,

07/12/2008 10:34:52
A well written article.
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IM Archer,

England 07/12/2008 10:51:42
Farquharson says "there is a debate to be had about the future of Britain". I agree, and what a pity it was that in 1997 that debate excluded England, the country in which the vast majority of the people of Britain live. Then he ruins this by adding "one that includes voices from the English regions"! What?! England is a country, and no more a collections of so-called 'regions' than is Scotland. The idea of 'regions' has already been overwhelmingly rejected in the only part of England that was given a referendum on it. England is "a proud historic nation", in Tony Blair's words, just as is Scotland, and we do not like people trying to partition us, any more than, I imagine, the Scots would like an Englishmen telling Scotland it must be abolished by being divided into 'regions'.
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07/12/2008 11:18:05
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Rodster,

Glasgow 07/12/2008 11:21:02
question
what do ulster unionists do when it is not marching season?
What do they do after 5 'o clock and they leave Govan ?
are they happy that their team won by a 7-1 margin?
Do they perhaps come on to a forum such as this and talk utter mince?
Rule Britannia , soon be June, and time to dust down that bowler hat, wash those white gloves, and polish your flute .
Bursts your knitting that there are no Scottish terrorist unionists huh then you could get the shooting going again to defend your beloved British Union
You know who I am talking to don't you , you little Unionist Uncle Tom ....
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Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 07/12/2008 13:26:34
Hello,
Just a reminder that if you wantto keep up with Scottish politics you should take a look at The Steamie, the new blog brought to you by political journalists and commentators on Scotland on Sunday, The Scotsman and the Evening News.
www.scotlandonsunday.com/thesteamie
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Lauwrie,

07/12/2008 14:22:13
1. Calman wrong when he states
" full fiscal autonomy for Holyrood --not consistent with the key principles of the Union".

Fiscal autonomy of both England and Scotland is perfectly consistent with federal British Union which is what most of political Scotland always wanted in the years before 1707 but was denied to them. England was never given the chance to consider the option.

2. Kenny Farquharson wrong when he says:
"There is a debate to be had about the future of Britain – one that includes voices from the English regions "

-a typical try at assuming the abolition of England but England is one country with many differences within as displayed by historical counties and boroughs. We do not have regions whatever the Labour tries to impose upon us. They are an historically alien idea to the English.

Scotland though ----- hm--- there is of course the distinction between the Highlands and the Lowlands both in geography,race,language and history-- hm --which one might well describe as separate regions -
and then of course there are the the Islands----

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Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 07/12/2008 14:54:31
Very interested in the comments about the English regions.

Yes, I accept the move towards regional assemblies in England is dead in the water.

I spent some time in Newcastle during the campaign leading up to the referendum that was held in the North-East, and the opposition was overwhelming.

But the posts that insist England has one single tier of government are wrong - it has a dozen or so regions, each run by an unelected civil servant who acts like a US-style Governor.

They are anononymous, but extremly powerful. And each of these Governors has a budget from the Treasury.

Whether or not this tier of government is brought under democratic control, there is still a debate to be had about how each regions' share of UK public spending is allocated.

I imagine this will happen in tandem with deciding a funding mechanism for Scotland.
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Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 07/12/2008 15:02:42
# 4 AM2

"please deconstruct that comment"

All I meant, AM2, was that Scotland had a different political complexion to that of England.

Scotland is more collectivist than England, and it has a greater aherence to the idea of the Welfare State.

Those were the values I was talking about.

I don't believe at all that Scotland is morally superior to England.

I believe, for example, that England - in general - is a far more tolerant country than Scotland, with a greater belief in the idea of fairness.

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Lauwrie,

07/12/2008 15:09:31
Kenny, merely describing the style of British (mis)rule of England sic:
"England - it has a dozen or so regions, each run by an unelected civil servant who acts like a US-style Governor.
They are anononymous, but extremly powerful. And each of these Governors has a budget from the Treasury."

does not make it right or democratic or acceptable to the English.
It is impossible to know what shape the internal government of England will take under self rule but whatever it is it will be the result of democratic and public debate by the soveriegn English people in an English parliament and anywhere the English meet resulting in a democratically underwritten policy.

Contrast that with the diktats, often secret ones as you point out, with which we are fobbed off at present by "sovereign" Westminster parliament.
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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 07/12/2008 15:27:15
-- What are these key principles of the Union, exactly? And who decided them? In 20 years of reporting on Scottish politics, they seem to have passed me by.

It was decided that the Scottish Office would dictate policy, that is, run Scotland. That was the Union settlement of 1707. Britain became the great imperial power. The Labour party formed and organised to represent the working people of Britain (now allowed to vote) and Scots saw the (realistic) political struggle in mainly UK terms. Nowadays the Westminster Parties no longer stand for any principles or represent (much) any people, the stock of politicians is at an all time low, so what future for democratic politics and a democratic nation-state called the UK, or status quo, or status decline?
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Ian Campbell,

W Horsley & Tiree 07/12/2008 15:56:33
With regard to Calman, Kenny rightly asks: “Doesn't this risk a very real backlash from south of the border as the English express their resentment at 14 Scots deciding what is best for them?” But then he himself starts deciding what is best for England when he writes: “There is a debate to be had about the future of Britain – one that includes voices from the English regions.”
Kenny, the English do NOT want regions, elected or unelected. They have been imposed on England by the UK government which unlike the Scottish govt does not listen to popular opinion.
You appreciate that despite the massive 78% to 22% vote against an elected regional assembly for the ‘North East’ of England in 2004, Mr Brown has now appointed Ministers to ‘champion the government’ in each ‘region’ and is in the process of setting up select committees of MPs to ‘represent’ the regions. Being select committees, they do even not reflect how the ‘region’ voted but how the parties stand at Westminster. We wish to see this unnecessary tier of top-down government abolished and powers returned to counties and cities that were taken away by prevous administrations. England should also have its own national parliament with a consequent reduction in the number of UK MPs.
It is not the English regions that need a 'voice' - it is the voice of England that is never heard. The people of England have never been asked what form of government best suits their needs. The British government does its best to suppress Englishness - it is Brown's stated belief that any form of national English political expression would mean the end of the Union. This is not a view that is shared by the majority of the people of the Scotland but it is a view that suits Brown's plans to rule England as its Governor General.
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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 07/12/2008 16:01:43
Power and Media is centered (off-centered?) in London. Journalists, however respected, working in Scotland are considered provincial. It's a disappointing editorial policy. Neither has this new window of the internet been grasped to create any national or international standing. Perhaps it's a useful shock that the "Herald" has fired all their staffers.

Yet we the people of Scotland are sovereign (or would like to be) and will have a rare, even unprecedented, opportunity to demonstrate it come the Referendum in 2010. We'll certainly be considering, defence, national security, foreign policy, the monarchy, the constitution, currency and corporation tax, landowership, the legal system, an energy policy - however the CC may fulminate.
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BC Boy,

England 07/12/2008 17:08:34
Kenny Farquharson, just how well do your subject?

"Calman's approach seems in marked contrast to that of the Scottish Constitutional Convention's Claim of Right in the 1990s"

It was in the 1980s - it was signed in 1989. Here's some reliable information:

"The Convention held its inaugural meeting on 30 March, 1989 in the Church of Scotland’s General Assembly Hall in Edinburgh. It adopted a declaration, which was signed by all its members. This was a Claim of Right, the third in Scotland’s history, and its purpose was to root the Convention solidly in the historical and historic Scottish constitutional principle that power is limited, should be dispersed and is derived from the people."

I know it all sounds quibblesome and daft, but if you can't even get the decade right when the Scottish Claim of Right came into being, can we trust you to talk sense about the complex issues involved in the Calman Report?

Or are you just one of those priggish revisionists who refuses to mention the 1980s - unless it's in a negative sense?
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DougtheDug,

07/12/2008 17:14:16
"It appears I had misunderstood what Calman was all about."

It appears you did Kenny. The clue is in the remit in para. 1.1

"To review the provisions of the Scotland Act 1998 in the light of experience and to recommend any changes to the present constitutional arrangements that would enable the Scottish Parliament to serve the people of Scotland better, improve the financial accountability of the Scottish Parliament, and continue to secure the position of Scotland within the United Kingdom"

The remit should be read backwards. The third point is the most important one to the Calman Commission and the first point is very much subject to it. The second point, "financial accountability", sounds good but means nothing unless the Scottish Parliament is allowed the levers of power to change the economy. To make the Scottish Parliament reliant on revenue which is dependent on the economy is nonsense when it is powerless to control that economy.

The purpose of the Calman Commission is to remove any obstacles to Westminster controlling all the important or strategic policy making throughout the UK and to ensure that there are no disputes between Holyrood and Westminster over who actually rules Scotland.

This administrative tidying up and the removing of any disputed areas between Holyrood and Westminster is what the Calman Commission regards as enabling the Scottish Parliament to serve the people of Scotland better. Any changes in the Scottish Parliament's devolutionary powers which strengthen the Union are by default serving the people of Scotland better under the Calman Commision worldview.

One of the first recommendations will be to remove planning powers that the Scottish Parliament has over the building of Nuclear Power Stations in Scotland.

The biggest fall-guys in the Calman Commission are the Lib-Dems. Their dreams of fiscal federalism which the Steel report outlined and which for them were the holy grail of the Calman Commission have been groun
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DougtheDug,

07/12/2008 17:15:26
The biggest fall-guys in the Calman Commission are the Lib-Dems. Their dreams of fiscal federalism which the Steel report outlined and which for them were the holy grail of the Calman Commission have been ground into the dust and they now realise that Labour have played them like fools.

"My worry is that Calman has lost sight of the fact that his commission was set up by the Scottish Parliament. Not the Westminster Parliament."

Well yes and no. It was set up by the Scottish regional leaders of the Lib-Dems and the Conservatives and as the Labour party has no Scottish Leader then it had to be nodded through by Brown for Labour. Any recommendations that the Calman Commission comes up with can only be implemented through Westminster so Calman is just keeping an eye on the true source of power in the UK.

"The job in hand is to decide what is best for Scotland. Then to look at how it can be accommodated within the United Kingdom. The first is Calman's job and the second is the UK Government's."

No, you're completely wrong. Read the third point of the Calman Commission remit. The Calman Commission has to look at how any changes affect or have an impact on the rest of the UK to ensure that the Union is not weakened.
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Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 07/12/2008 18:02:10
# 34 BC Boy

You're quite right that the Claim of Right was signed in the late 80s - but most of the work of the Convention was done in the first half of the 1990s, with the final report published on St Andrew's Day 1995.
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Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 07/12/2008 18:10:20
# 35 Doug

"...continue to secure the position of Scotland within the United Kingdom."

Calman is reading this in a curious way.

My interpretation, which I think is the general view, is that Scotland's position within the Union will be secured only when Scotland's small-n nationalist instincts are satisfied.

Diehard Unionists seem to have a view that devolution is a zero-sum game - that every extra power given from Westminster to Holyrood weakens the Union and strengthens the SNP.

In fact the opposite is the case. Only a much stronger form of devolution can save the Union.

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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 07/12/2008 18:51:04
..that would enable the Scottish Parliament to serve the people of Scotland better

with all powers from the consent of the governed. That's us, the people of Scotland.
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Sierra Foothills Scot,

Diamond Springs 07/12/2008 19:21:25
#40 sm753 –

Sorry I’ve still been unable to connect with you. I tried on 3 December through my post #263 on http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/Flashpoint-as-Calman-tests-SNP.4754392.jp#3499547, but you apparently left the thread after you posted at #121.

My post did elicit some other comments, however. You might want to look at posts #269, 292 and 294.

Please provide, without your customary obfuscation or insults:

(a) Specific URL references for the 1973 Local Government Act and the 1933 Local Government Act

(b) Proof that the "administrative county of Northumberland" does not really mean the County of Northumberland plus the “non-county area of - wait for it - Berwick-on-Tweed” that the county administers.

(c) Proof and the effective date that the “the non-county borough of Berwick-on-Tweed” became part of England.

If you and your formidable research team are unable to do this, it will destroy your contention that Berwick-on-Tweed is part of England.

Thank you.
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tartan army 2222,

07/12/2008 19:36:06
#38 Kenny Farquharson
"Diehard Unionists seem to have a view that devolution is a zero-sum game - that every extra power given from Westminster to Holyrood weakens the Union and strengthens the SNP.

In fact the opposite is the case. Only a much stronger form of devolution can save the Union."

I disagree Kenny. I would argue that the Union is finished regardless of what course is taken. It's a matter of when rather than if. I think a stronger form of devolution will preserve the Union for longer whereas the present unionist position of sticking their heads in the sand and making it all go away which will sound its death knell sooner rather than later.
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DougtheDug,

07/12/2008 20:08:08
#38 Kenny Farquharson
"Diehard Unionists seem to have a view that devolution is a zero-sum game - that every extra power given from Westminster to Holyrood weakens the Union and strengthens the SNP."

I don't think that is a view of diehard unionists, I think it is the view of pretty much all unionists. The Labour party instituted the Scottish Parliament in order to stop the rise of the SNP and now they are in Government.

Labour have no interest in more powers for the Scottish Parliament because they've already tried to buy off the nationalists with a little "n" and it has failed.

The Conservatives are not interested in more powers for the Scottish Parliament and David Cameron has just declared that, "I passionately believe in the Union...", for the Ulster Unionists.

The Lib-Dems wanted to have much more financial autonomy for Scotland but they are easily taken for a ride and they made the fatal mistake of turning up at the Commission with no worked out plan for financial autonomy partial or otherwise and so got shafted. The Steel Commission report is a wish-list of maybe we could do this and perhaps we could do that for financial federalism. It definitely is not a worked out proposal on how to devolve tax raising powers to Scotland.

From your article you believed that the Calman Commission was to:

1. Propose an increase in the legislative powers of the Scottish Parliament

2. To do this in isolation from the rest of the UK

3. And to give Scotland some form of financial autonomy

From the start when they started to talk of looking at both giving and taking powers from the Scottish Parliament it has been obvious that it's none of the above, it is all about ensuring that the Scottish Parliament is a local not national government.

The content of the Calman Commission report didn't surprise me at all, especially when you read the remit.
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Charles1234,

In ma box 08/12/2008 15:03:03
Actually I have a sense of agreement with Kenny to some extent and also with DougtheDug on this issue - despite their apparent contention.

Yep, Calman's remit is to look at what is best for "the Union" rather than what is best for Scotland - albeit put in a third position but fundamentally important to the whole exercise.

Conversely the way this had been presented until this report was as a commission to look at extra powers. Kenny's a journalist and it's his job to articulate what they are up to and explain that to his readers. That the impression was allowed to grow that it was about "more powers" is one the participants have to answer when, as Kenny has pointed out that it's actually about what is best for "the Union".

I'd actually go further than Kenny that Calman has gone beyond constitutional matters within Scotland to the whole UK. It's gone into the rest of the British Isles and the EU.

This is either a deliberate attempt to paint these areas as only existing with "the Union" or that they haven't a clue about the constitutional/political power position of many of those policy areas.

For example the "social union" exists outwith the borders of the UK so their "vision" actually threatens that wider union for a narrower area. A list of private organisations shows that it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The "economic union" since 1707 has actually collapsed since its highest geographical point in the 1920's and has been superseded by another.

Fundamentally the questions that should be asked of Calman are:

1. What is this "union" you are protecting?

(The only one I can see them protecting is a Parliamentary/political one which wants to keep sovereignty over Scotland at Westminster - every other "union" can remain without it.*)

2. What comes first? What is best for Scotland or what is best for that "union"?

(Granted they can argue that both can be synonymous but that's a matter of time and space. There are going to be times when one
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Charles1234,

Still in ma box 08/12/2008 15:04:20
2. What comes first? What is best for Scotland or what is best for that "union"?

(Granted they can argue that both can be synonymous but that's a matter of time and space. There are going to be times when one has to subordinate to the other.)

* Perhaps that's maybe a question for yourself as well Kenny. When you say "the Union" what are you referring to?

 

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