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Published Date: 29 December 2008
ALMOST 150 people are chasing the average council home in Edinburgh as demand grows to record levels.
More than 400,000 bids have been made for just 2700 council homes in the last year as the city's affordable housing crisis worsens. And the situation is only set to get bleaker as more people face housing problems because of the economic downturn. Increasing numbers of repossessions are said to have fueled the rise – a sitution which is likely to create an even greater strain on the social housing stock next year.

In one case this year, 1003 people joined the running for one two-bedroom Portobello home, which homeless groups say is a sign of how "desperate" the situation is in the city.

Councillor Paul Edie, the city's housing leader, said: "This figure is a stark representation of the housing crisis that Edinburgh is experiencing. It will rise as home repossessions increase and the recession worsens.

"We are working with registered social landlords and the private rented market to open up more properties but the ultimate solution is building more affordable homes. To do this we need adequate investment and we are working with the Government in the hope of securing this."

The most popular area for social housing was Cramond, although only 14 properties have become available during the year, they have each received an average of 413 bids.

Craigentinny and Stenhouse, two of the areas where the most properties became available, were next most popular with an average of more than 360 bids for each. In total, 401,169 applications for available social housing have been made in the city, a sign that many people are submitting bids for dozens of properties whenever they come on the market in a bid to get a roof over their head. The record for a single property is 1024 bids – set in 2007 for a two-bedroom home in Drumbrae.

Graeme Brown, director of Shelter Scotland, said: "The need for more homes is never more starkly shown than through the number of people applying for a rented house in Edinburgh. That sometimes 1000 people apply for a single property shows how desperate the shortage is.

"Unless more affordable housing can be made available in Edinburgh, thousands more people will be excluded from any chance of having their own home. As the economic downturn deepens, increasing numbers of people are struggling and more people are turning to us for help and advice."

He added that further action is needed if the Scottish Government is to meet its target of everyone that is homeless having a right to a permanent home by 2012. Andrew Field, deputy chief executive of the Scottish Federation of Housing Associations, said: "These figures are another sign that there is a need for extra investment in affordable housing across Scotland and now is the time to do it, with the country entering a recession.

"The construction industry is contracting and this is further evidence that Edinburgh has not escaped the economic difficulties, or the greatly increased demand for affordable housing."


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  • Last Updated: 29 December 2008 11:15 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Homelessness
 
1

ZipptJeffrey,

Castle 29/12/2008 11:50:10
Sorry i am not buying this story. What this is about is people like backpackers, travellers, immigrants, who are purposely coming here to Edinburgh to make themselves "homeless" and get themselves a property. there is enough property here for genuine cases. The council and the housing associations need to tighten up their rules to cut down on this type of carpet bagging.
2

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 29/12/2008 12:24:30
Stupid labour should had legislated to stop the housing market from going crazy and should have had legislated to stop people taking out mortgages that they would have no hope of paying off. If they had done this, then IF this issue is due to re-possessions, it would be a lot less serious.
3

brandy al,

embra 29/12/2008 12:26:51
What a state of affairs,i am quite sure many of them would be happy with a tent,supplied by the council.
4

Concerned local,

Edinburgh 29/12/2008 12:27:42
Wow! A city with a TOTAL population of about 468,000, according to the Cooncil's own website

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/internet/Attachments/Internet/City_Living/City_facts_and_figures/population_estimates_2007_by_single_year.pdf ,

and 4000,000 of them are looking for affordable homes.

If you believe the Evening News, 'almost 150 people' are chasing the average council house. Does this article make sense?

5

Concerned local,

Edinburgh 29/12/2008 12:28:23
Sorry, last figure should be 400,000!
6

Finbarr Saunders,

29/12/2008 12:28:41
The Council and housing associations need to review the size of the homes that they have provided to single people and couples.

Once their kids are up and away, couples or single people should be re-housed in studio or one-bedroom homes and families can then be moved into the larger homes.



7

Black Five,

edinburgh 29/12/2008 12:39:36
Maggie`s to blame.Common sense told you that the best council houses would be bought for a fraction of their worth.Should never has been allowed.
8

JT,

29/12/2008 12:53:24
The issue of affordable housing is simple, the council need to stop selling off prime land to developers who are going to charge top money for shoeboxes therefore artificially pushing the prices of homes up. This has been going on for years and now the bubble has burst and some of the greedier ones have gone out business land is just sitting there doing nothing. Perhaps the council should take over and finish the houses off. Rather than sponging off the locals for a stupid tram line imagine what that money can do for the housing need?
9

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 29/12/2008 13:10:44
400,000 ? Are you sure ?

Lets assume half of them are local, thats half the population of Edinburgh , including babies.

It's a lot of nonsense.

Hang them on the national lottery.
10

elayne,

29/12/2008 13:25:22
agree #1!!it used to be the case that one had to have a connection with the city,work,family etc to apply for a house,now one does not have to have a connection,or even come from the area,there are a lot of chancers who claim homeless priority and there are also genuine people from teh area who now have no chance of house because of all the "homeless",more stringent housing policy is needed and also more homes need to be built,send the chancers back to their own areas and let their local authorities deal with them!!!!
11

Spathiphyllum,

29/12/2008 13:35:34
THANK GOD CHRISTMAS IS OVER !!!!!
12

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 29/12/2008 13:40:02
13

Look to the future cause its only just begu u un.
13

Victoria Ian,

29/12/2008 13:58:22
#5 & 11 Are you really so stupid to not realise that the same people have obviously bid for numerous council houses throughout the year!

14

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 29/12/2008 14:04:53
Victorian Ian - many people chase houses. dogs chase cats and strings of sausages. The Policeman chases Billy Bunter with a truncheon and a ruddy face.

life goes on.
15

elayne,

29/12/2008 14:08:40
#15 yeah because all the "homeless"are getting the houses so people who have been on list for years are having to bid and bid and bid etc etc,just have a look at the result tables,the bidding system is stupid in the extreme,they should bring back the person who comes out to assess ones suitability for housing,face to face
16

Brian from Accounts,

29/12/2008 14:49:55
What's needed here is a proliferation of shanty town timber frame 'luxury flats' at £270 000 a pop.

Anyone know why Harlem ended up being a working class district and not stockbroker belt?

Because of the depression. None of manhattan was intended for working class residence.

Basically the new luxury waterfront flats will be a gigantic crack house by early March.
17

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29/12/2008 14:56:22
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Anonym,

29/12/2008 14:59:00
What we need is to sort this out by voting for Gorgie_Tony for First Minister.

Clowns who vote 'Tony' ought to have self esteem.

Clowns who do not vote 'Tony' should hang their heads in shame.

19

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 29/12/2008 15:01:35
19 I wouldnt live there if you paid me, but as a Euro earner, I'll buy the whole scheme in about six months.
20

Anonym,

29/12/2008 15:07:45
Are you sure about that Bottoms? Try a search for properties in Stenhouse from £70000 - £140,000 at:

http://property.scotsman.com/search.cfm?region=&area=&district=8244&minPrice=70000&maxPrice=140000&bedrooms=&heating=&newBuilds=&commercial=&keywords=

Here's the results of that query:

Found 0 properties.

Sorry, no properties currently match your search criteria.

Change your search criteria and try again.
21

elayne,

29/12/2008 15:08:10
stenhouse was an ok area,but sadly its becoming pretty rubbish,as all the "priority"cases are thinking"oh i woudnt mind living there" instead of the less desirable areas,if they are so desperate they should be happy to get a house in calders,muirhouse etc and wee mrs broon whos been waiting 30 years for a house should have 1st pick of better areas,but no,the council have got to make an *** of it all and introduce the bidding system,bunch of ****s
22

john3,

29/12/2008 15:16:57
Retirees from overseas moving into family rented property and being declared homeless exacerbates the situation. Is any question raised as to whether they own property abroad or what income is available to them in overseas accounts?
23

elayne,

29/12/2008 15:18:44
another solution,build some soviet era style flats for all the skanks and anti social tenants,and give them bidding choice for the flats only,and that frees up the better areas for those who have waited years/more deserving
24

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29/12/2008 15:31:54
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 29/12/2008 15:35:44
#1 - I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.

Too many immigrants coming here and begging for housing while the real needy go without.

One house - 2 bedroomed family house in Rankin Drive was given to a homeless person who didn't even come from the city.

It's about time basic housing - rows of caravans were provided for these people and if they want to progress to a house - then get a job, and earn it!

We give too many free rides whether it housing, benefits you name it. These people are not stupid they know how to milk it.

Because of them genuine homeless people in need cannot get!

Pathetic! Too much money being spent lining private landlords pockets and providing so called homeless with a home! Time for change as at the moment they seem to get preferential treatment.

So I don't buy all this , it is time for a change and the real needy being on list not those who just want to milk the system with another so called benefit.
26

elayne,

29/12/2008 15:41:17
#27 as i have said before,,i know a (anti social skank as it happens)who claimed homelessness(came from fife)and got a flat within 5 weeks,no background checks done(she claimed her boyfreind was hitting her,same boyfriend lives with her in her flat in edin,again no checks done)she had no connection with area,or family/friends there etc,this person had asbo,annoyed neighbours as her house was used like a drinking den/gang hut/brothel so decided she wanted to move to the city,easy if you can do it eh?
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29/12/2008 15:42:08
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29/12/2008 15:44:09
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Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 29/12/2008 15:46:49
What is bad about all this is that hard working tax-payers who have lost their job through no fault of their own, find themselves faced with a lack of Council housing, whilst all the benefit junkies have already been given all the nice new shiny ones.
Most of them have never paid a penny in tax in their lifes, what a scandal !
30

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 15:53:02
Would it help if one of Foulkes's homes was released?
31

elayne,

29/12/2008 15:57:48
#30 yes but i cant be *rsed,enjoying my holidays without worrying about grammar

#31 those who have worked and lost home through no fault of their own should be dealt with in a decent way,not given excuses about no homes being available,all the while junkies and benefit scroungers are treated like royalty in housing dept!!!
32

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:04:28
This thread is infested with fascists. Deplorable.
33

elayne,

29/12/2008 16:09:13
i accopanied someone to housing dept once,it was surreal!i was asked by a junkie if i had 20p,(she was told to go away in anglo saxon)another tracky clad buck toothed woman was so out of it she was sleeping and had had an "accident"in her breeks(awful),2 mums watched with no interest as their kids burst a beanbag and polysyrene flying everywhere,the junkie was called in and came away with a flat(paperwork)and person who i was with was told she had no chance(a working person who is single and respectable)its all wrong
34

elayne,

29/12/2008 16:10:54
#34 we are not fascists,just folk who think things should be different and working people given a break!
35

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:15:19
36

You my dear are queen of the fascists. You spout drivel based on hearsay and post accordingly. If you indeed are employed, I sincerely wish the credit crunch to bite deeply and that you lose your job.

Merry Christmas.
36

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:16:41
35 elayne

Your post at #35 was boring, tedious and lamentable. I also suspect it's a load of tosh.
37

an interested party,

29/12/2008 16:17:32
if lets say 150 each applied for each of the 2700 houses
then we get a figure of 400,500

still doesnt make it clear how many homeless there was

but probably at least around 2700 +150

so about less than 1% of the citys population

38

elayne,

29/12/2008 16:20:46
#38 boring maybe,true yes 100%!!!had to be seen to be believed,true enough for the person i accompanied to write a complaint letter!
39

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:27:44
40

I don't believe you, but what the hey - it's Christmas.
I take back my wish for your imminent unemployment. My milk of human kindness is a bit low. I was simply looking for a reaction. Thanks.
40

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29/12/2008 16:27:54
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Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:35:57
42

What's the matter with the immigration policy? I'd probably agree with you about "illegals" though. Do you get your "information" from the likes of the Star? (2000 MIGRANTS HEAD FOR BRITAIN) or the Express? ( MIGRANT HORDES HELL-BENT ON REACHING SOFT-TOUCH BRITAIN).
42

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29/12/2008 16:38:20
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Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:38:56
btw - I can't see any reference in the article about immigration. Maybe you're on the wrong thread - or the wrong newspaper.

Try the BNP Gazette.
44

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:40:09
44
Oh dear. You really do believe all the p­ish you read in the tabloids.
45

Hugh Roscombe,

29/12/2008 16:44:14
44

How about the following?

Black and minority ethnic communities are still most at risk of being victims of crime.

Do you think we'd live in a crime-free drug-free UK if Johnny Foreigner hadn't settled here?

Bawbags.
46

elayne,

29/12/2008 16:50:43
#37,im no fascist!and yes im employed and my job is fine thank you!i have no problem with people of different ethnic backgrounds,none whatsoever,its the jakies/junkies/benefit scroungers that annoy the c**p out of me,who are given preferential treatment in matters of housing,most of whom could not run a raffle never mind a house,and a lot of people feel the same,it is unfair on those in GENUINE need,eg people with disabilities,working families,old folk etc
47

Lil Miss,

29/12/2008 16:50:57
My friend is classed as priority as she needs to be rehomed from her council flat so they can demolish it but she has bidded for so many places and not got anything. So much for priority. And when she is successful she needs to move within 2 weeks. She's been living with her things in boxes for months now so she can move as soon as she can. That's if she ever gets anything.
48

elayne,

29/12/2008 16:59:07
#49 this is what i mean!those in GENUINE need are ignored or pushed to back of queue,i suggest your friend calls a meeting with head of housing,which is her right to do,dont go to the monkey,go to the organ grinder,i hope your friend gets something suitable soon
49

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 29/12/2008 16:59:34
#49 don't worry she will get £500 as a freeby from the Council (TAXPAYER) for the hassle of moving.
I know this cos someone I know got it, moving 500 yards from a high rise to a brand new 2 bedroom flat.
She went on a spending spree at Argos I recall.
50

Robert12,

Edinburgh 29/12/2008 17:12:12
What a load of nonsense this is. Firstly that is "only" around 150 bids per property. How many people are there bidding for more than one property? Quite a few I'd expect!

My mate was unemployed along with a few other mates prior to going to Uni and they got themselves sorted with a flat no problem. All paid for by the taxpayer with bonus payments to buy things they needed chucked in. They did that for 3 months prior to going to Uni.

It's not just Edinburgh though. Take a trip to Dunfermline where junkies from Edinburgh try their luck in the hostels there (no doubt barred from the Edinburgh ones). Happens all across Scotland.

Bottoms Up - definitely not plenty of Sub-100k houses in Clermiston either! Maybe get one of the less desirable "mini-tower block" flats but nowt more!
51

Concerned local,

Edinburgh 29/12/2008 17:19:48
#15 - No, I'm not stupid. I was pointing out the flawed analysis in the Evening News's story - THEY said that on average almost 150 people are chasing every council house (i.e. 400,000 divided by 2,700). Of course, that's nonsense, people do apply for more than one.

That's what the comments 'If you believe the Evening News' and 'Does this story make sense?' addressed. I'd advise you to read what people say, not guess what you think they're saying.
52

Victoria Ian,

29/12/2008 17:36:14
#53 fair enough. Re-read your initial point- apologies.


53

Brian from Accounts,

29/12/2008 18:28:52
what?
nothing better to do?
why don't you kick yourself out
you're an immigrant too.

who's using who? what should we do?
well, you can't be a pimp
and a prostitute too.
54

Pumpkin,

29/12/2008 19:04:07
#53 Yes, people have applied for more than one....myself included. However, you can only place bids for a maximum of 3 properties each week.
55

go boil ur heid,

29/12/2008 19:21:03
no1 government rules state that immigrants must be placed ahead of scots
no2 i've been homeless for over ten year the snp have nothing to do with it
no8 i've come to the conclusion that gorgie_tony would also blame the snp for god only having one day of rest
no34 this thread is infested with people sick and tired of being treated like n1ggers
no38 live the life don't spread the lie
no42 go to craigillar it's like africa without the heat
56

trevor swistchew,

edinburgh 29/12/2008 19:39:12
Waiting time for a house is 10 years
57

elayne,

29/12/2008 19:58:43
#58 try 20 or even 30 if you prefer a better area
#52 yes i live near dunfermline,the fife council housing policy is quite lax too!(jakies/junkies again given houses while others are waiting for ages)
basically more houses need to be built and teh allocation policy needs to be tightened up(like it was in the 1960s)and housing should be given to those who have connection with area,can pay rent/willing to look for work,folk who are disabled and in unsuitable housing,old folk who can "downsize"to smaller apartments etc, this bidding system simply is not working,too many chancers are lying their way to a home while genuine folk are being left out!!!
58

go boil ur heid,

29/12/2008 21:29:32
10 years get a house only in the committee room
59

is it me?,

Edinburgh 29/12/2008 21:30:02
Alex Salmond's been awful quiet about all this. Seriously, can somebody go and check if he's still there.
(Where is he , by the way?)
60

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 29/12/2008 21:58:11
anything.in.COLINTON.MAINS.i,am,selling.up.coming.home
61

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 29/12/2008 22:01:45
would.you.please.forward.my.500.pound.for.moving..thank.you.every.little.bit.helps
62

Mark Renton,

Edinburgh 30/12/2008 06:37:20
If you want a house, get a job and buy one! I am so darn sick of these lazy boogers crying "poor me, poor me, gimmee a hoose for cheap". And I am so darn sick of the Council giving away our housing stock for a tiny fraction of what it is actually worth.
63

Cabbie,

Edinburgh 30/12/2008 08:18:40
#2&8 Gorgie Tony, Labour should have stopped the sale of council houses long ago. The housing shortage is not a new problem and I'd like to ask you what have Labour done? I therefore hope you support the SNP bill going through the Scottish Parliament next year to stop the right to buy for new build council and HA houses?
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trevor swistchew,

edinburgh 31/03/2009 20:27:02
Mr Renton not every one who requres a house is without a job.

 

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