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Published Date: 11 July 2008
DOCTORS should not have to reveal, in leaflets and posters, whether they oppose abortion, medics said yesterday.
Delegates at the British Medical Association (BMA) conference in Edinburgh heard calls that doctors should have to tell patients if they had conscientious objections to abortion or in vitro fertilisation (IVF).

But the appeal was narrowly rejecte
d by doctors, several of whom feared advertising that they were willing to handle abortion cases would put them at risk from extremists opposed to the procedure.

The BMA said a big concern of doctors was that they may not think leaflets were the best way of giving this information.

In a heated debate at the BMA's annual meeting, Dr Evan Harris, a BMA member and Lib Dem MP, said that while doctors' objections to abortion and IVF should be respected, as set out in law, medics could not just pick and choose what services they provide for their patients.

"I think we should say we do not want a pick-and-mix health service," he said.

"The right to conscientiously object to abortion and IVF should be maintained but we should go no further."

He called for medical practices to make "every effort to inform patients in advance, for example through practice leaflets" which doctors were able to advise on abortion.

But doctors rejected the motion, with 50.6 per cent of delegates voting against – despite guidance from the General Medical Council suggesting such information should be available.

Dr Paul Mills, of the BMA's Lothian division, said he had fears about the suggestion that practices should produce leaflets setting out their objections, due to concerns about "pro-life" extremists.

"My potential worry is that this could target doctors, particularly around the issue of abortion, and I don't think that is what we should be doing. To steal a phrase from colleagues in America, abortionists could come to be known," he said.

Doctors providing abortion services in America have been placed on hit lists by "pro-life" campaign groups, with several attacks on medics.

Dr Harris, responding to the concerns raised during the debate about patient information, said: "It is about the duty of candour. You cannot disguise from patients something they are entitled to know."

Dr Vividness Nathan, head of science and ethics at the BMA, said doctors at the conference had concerns about giving information on abortion in leaflets when there were other ways of going about it.

"You can do it individually to patients, you can do it in posters on the practice wall, you can do it in the leaflet and there are other ways as well," she said.

"There is a feeling that it should be up to individuals how they inform patients."

Julie Bentley, chief executive of the Family Planning Association, said it was disappointed doctors did not want the information available to patients before consultations.

"About 20 per cent of doctors say they are against abortion and some let this influence the advice they offer," she said.

Medics tested for MRSA in new attempt to stall infection's spread

DOCTORS have been tested for MRSA in attempts to assess the role of staff in spreading the infection in hospitals.

About 200 medics at the British Medical Association conference in Edinburgh this week took part in the study, with swabs taken from their noses and mobile phones.

Researchers said they were trying to work out the extent to which doctors carrying the MRSA bug.

Patients going into hospital in Scotland are currently taking part in pilot MRSA screening programmes.

But there have also been calls for staff to be screened for MRSA in a bid to tackle infections. However, there are concerns about what hospitals would do if staff could not work because they were persistent carriers of the bug.

Researcher Richard Brady, a surgical research fellow at Edinburgh University, said:

"Many people carry MRSA without displaying any ill effects or symptoms. However those who carry the bacteria could have a role in helping to spread the bacteria to people who are ill and who can become susceptible to the serious effects of MRSA infections."

Professor Hugh Pennington, a leading microbiologist welcomed the study, adding: "It would be very useful to have this information because very little is currently known about NHS staff and levels of MRSA."



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  • Last Updated: 10 July 2008 10:47 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Abortion
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 01:07:18

I really don't think this makes much difference that,..

"that doctors should have to tell patients if they had conscientious objections to abortion or in vitro fertilisation (IVF)"

We all know the Facts! Don't we!

ITS CALLED INFLUENCE,!

And the Doctors will still use their believes through Influence, forget the leaflet Nonsense, because that's all it IS and further more!,..

We all Know it!

In other Words, Its all Nonsense!
2

Scullion,

Canada 11/07/2008 01:39:47
If I were a woman and my doctor advised me against having an abortion that I'd decided upon, I'd just go to another doctor. Doctors are men of science and should know their place in the professional pantheon.
3

Tom in Belmont,

Belmont 11/07/2008 05:23:10
A greater danger is that pro-life doctors could be targeted for discrimination by pro-choice politicians and NHS administrators. Over here, Congress had to pass legislation prohibiting medical colleges from compelling pro-life students to participate in abortion training against their beliefs.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 07:37:36

Tom in Belmont ~3,

"A greater danger is that pro-life doctors could be targeted for discrimination by pro-choice politicians and NHS administrators"

'Of-Course' this is a Danger, when we live in a Country now, that is starting to show a disturbing lack of concern that life is sacred.
5

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State.... Coatbridge 11/07/2008 08:17:48
Double standards here slightly, they were required to advise the committee on HFE bill as to whether they had religious belief's...if you did you were out
6

CRAGman,

11/07/2008 09:24:04
How come it isn't against the Hippocratic Oath to perform an abortiobn and therefore destroy a life? I can never understand that.
7

Number 6,

Germany 11/07/2008 12:52:50
#2 What if his objection was scientific, would you just shop around until you found someonewho agreed with you ?
8

Turkey Jerky,

11/07/2008 14:08:57
How come supposedly "pro-life" campaigners MURDER doctors. I mean I don't understand how you can be pro-life AND kill people.

I also don't understand how these Pro-Life people can overlook all the m@sturbation going on in the world, I mean all of those sperms have the potential for life. Not to mention women being allowed to have a period. Those could have been perfectly healthy children. It's MURDER I tells ye.

When is NEW life created and when is it just a small cell in part of a massive multicellular organism.

How many of the "murdered babies" would have died before coming to term anyway???

No-one can answer these questions in full. It's down to opinion.

As such, murdering doctors has ruined any arguments that pro-lifers could ever make.
9

Turkey Jerky,

11/07/2008 14:17:21
Moderator,

I object at the blocking of using some specific words that are not generally offensive.

i.e Masturb@tion, pen1s, v@gina, etc.

These are all normal language, and as such should be able to be used.

If the context is offensive then I wholeheartedly agree with their removal. However, educated discourse about medical practice should be allowed.

I find it particularly odd because sperms is allowed, yet 5perm is not, also ovulation etc. are allowed.
10

we the people,

11/07/2008 14:23:41
#6 because it's not destroying a life it's removing a cell cluster.
11

Tartan Buffalo,

11/07/2008 16:48:27
I dont think there is an need to notify patients of ones beliefs regarding abortion. A simple and relatively secure way would be just for any practices practioners to be aware of whom is pro life and whom is pro choice then doctors could refer abortion seeking patients to the pro choice brigade who could hopefully give objective advice.
12

Benjamin,

Dresden 11/07/2008 18:56:47
#10, well, that's YOUR opinion, isn't it. Not everyone feels that way. SOME believe that life begins at conception.
13

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 19:43:22

Benjamin ~12,

" SOME believe that life begins at conception."

As does my Wife and I, Benjamin.

Infact we have frozen embryo's and everyone of them are Potential Babies.

My wife is calling them Her Babies now, and cant wait to have them placed where they belong.
14

Media 1,

cape town 11/07/2008 21:10:30
Charles

That's right, they are HER babies and HER right to do with them as she pleases.
15

Benjamin,

Dresden 11/07/2008 23:52:48
Her babies Media? I think there must be two sets of genes to create an embryo, not just one. Those embryos are THEIR babies. The females of our species cannot produce off-spring by herself, or at least not my species.....
16

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 12/07/2008 01:27:44

Benjamin ~15,

I was going to comment on Media 1, post, but the reference was about tour remark on a,..

"Cluster of Cells" Hence mine, NOT a "Cluster of Cells"

Our, Potential 'Babies-to-Be'

When my Wife refers to "Her Babies" she means Babies, NOT "Cell Clusters"

She regards them as 'Our Babies' and she feels strongly that, some should have the understanding that pregnancy is Precious for some like my Wife, and thus NOT 'flaunt' Abortion as if it was something like, getting the rubbish out your home.

Some should 'Think Twice' and have more understanding, not only for the Women that cant have a Baby and Wants one, as Nature Dictated, But also on the Life they have decided to terminate!

I am not against Abortion, as you will see from my other posts, one of which is on here today.

But for us a embryo, our embryo's, are our love for one another and our offspring to-be.

She want the Father of her potential Baby/Babies, (me) to support her and be with her all the way from,..

Conception to Birth and Beyond and with Gods Will, I will be there for Her and our Wanted Babies!

 

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