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Published Date: 13 May 2009
THE number of firearms held legally in Scotland has reached a ten-year high, fuelling fears of a similar rise in the number of illegal weapons.
Opposition politicians have called for greater efforts to find out how many firearms are held illegally on Scotland's streets.

The move came as Scottish Government figures revealed a rise of 4 per cent last year in the number of firearms owned under certificate, to 69,481.

There was also a 2.7 per cent increase in handguns and pistols, the type of gun Thomas Hamilton used one to shoot dead 16 schoolchildren and their teacher in Dunblane in 1996.

The total number of handguns increased from 1,481 in 2007 to 1,522 in 2008.

In addition, the number of shotguns held on certificate was 137,881 in 2008, which was 3 per cent higher than in 2007.

Both were the highest figures in ten years.

There were also 327 registered firearms dealers in Scotland at the end of 2008, an increase of 9 per cent from the 301 registered at the end of 2007.

The number of firearms authorised to be purchased or acquired on certificate was 8,254, making the total of firearms certificates in Scotland 77,735.

Labour's justice spokesman Richard Baker said legal weapons were not the problem.

"To most people, what is of greater concern is the number of illegally held weapons in Scotland," he said. "(Justice secretary] Kenny MacAskill should get on with the job of tackling those outside the system rather than continuing his endless demands for more powers."

The Liberal Democrat justice spokesman Robert Brown said the statistics gave an incomplete picture of weapons in Scotland and insisted that more needed to be done to track down illegal weapons.

He also called on the Scottish Government to take up the cudgels again with Westminster to get measures on licensing air weapons in Scotland.

Currently, all firearms legislation is reserved and only powerful airguns have to be licensed.

"As long as the rising number of legally-held firearms are stored and used responsibly for sport or pest control, these figures should not be cause for alarm," said Mr Brown.

"But these statistics don't give us the complete picture of gun ownership in Scotland. They exclude the number of illegal firearms that end up in the hands of criminals.

"They also don't tell us anything about airguns, which are not subject to registration schemes. An airgun in the wrong hands is a lethal weapon in exactly the same way that a firearm or shotgun can be, both of which are already subject to registration processes."

The Scottish Government said it still hoped to have an overhaul of firearms legislation.

Mr MacAskill promised to take up the issue again with Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

"We know that some people have a legitimate reason for owning a firearm, for example those who belong to shooting clubs or farmers who need them for pest control," he said. "But we also know that, in the wrong hands, these weapons can injure or kill."

He said that at a recent firearms summit at Bute House there had been widespread agreement that the current law on firearms was not fit for purpose because it was too complicated. That makes it hard for legitimate owners to understand what the law requires of them and makes it easier for others to slip through the net.

"That's why I'll keep pushing the Home Office to review and update the law," Mr MacAskill said. "Meanwhile, our public information campaign will educate and raise awareness of the dangers of airguns, and the campaign website has information on the different strands of the campaign, including advice on safe shooting."

Schoolteacher fined £1,000 for firing airgun into the ground after being attacked

A SCHOOL teacher who brought out an air pistol to scare a gang who assaulted him has been fined £1,000.

Allan Dickson, 32, repeatedly fired the weapon into the ground outside his home in Edinburgh last July.

He had returned home around midnight from a night out with colleagues and found eight men standing nearby.

They shouted comments at Dickson before one of the men attacked him, prompting Dickson to run into his house and return with the weapon. He fired three or four shots into the ground and at a fence before handing the pistol to a friend.

Dickson, of Granton Mill Drive, Edinburgh, pled guilty to breach of the peace and possessing a firearm at Edinburgh Sheriff Court last month.

He has been suspended from his secondary teaching post and faces a disciplinary hearing.

Yesterday, Sheriff Derrick McIntyre told the first offender he had reduced the fine from £1,500. "The gun wasn't fired at these youths and there was a lead up to this, you had been assaulted," said the sheriff.

Dickson admitted to police he had gone home to retrieve an air pistol "for protection" and fired it, but said he only wanted to frighten the men.

His defence lawyer, Fiona Macdonald, said Dickson had felt "humiliation" at being assaulted but was now "extremely remorseful".

"There was a group of youths there and there were words exchanged and it is accepted that he was assaulted by these youths," said Ms Macdonald.

"Mr Dickson took the extremely foolish decision to go into his house and retrieve this air pistol. He was clearly in a state of extreme agitation.

"He accepts that he shouldn't have done this regardless of what provocation there was."


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  • Last Updated: 12 May 2009 9:29 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Gun crime
 
1

The Online Scot,

Scotland 12/05/2009 22:34:07
More scare stories.

It doesn't really matter, Labour and Brown are finished.
2

Allan(handofgod137),

13/05/2009 00:15:55
What's the link between legally held guns and unlawfully held guns?
Answer - nothing, another piece of leftist inspired propaganda by the anti gun anti democracy lobby.
3

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 13/05/2009 01:15:16
This just in, criminals don't register their guns.
Guys who shoot pheasants and woodies do.
They are not the bad guys. But cops spend an inordinate amount of time and taxpayers cash harassing legitimate firearms owners.
It makes zero sense. Just as the scary underlying theme of this bizarre piece of journalism that sees a sinister purpose behind the increase in shotgun numbers.
Just plain goofy.

4

tomi,

13/05/2009 02:17:09
How can an "air pistol" be a "firearm"?

It has no "fire".
5

W Smith,

Middle East 13/05/2009 03:29:39
The SNP didn't seem to mind Hanif's little experiment with an AK-47 in a 'training camp' in Pakistan.

MacAskill is more concerned about people who buy weapons legally to shoot wood pigeons.

This is what we'd expect from a member of the radical left wing 79 Group is it not?
6

Jason,

Japan 13/05/2009 04:57:24
When guns are outlawed ...
7

Captain Fantastic,

Anywhere but here 13/05/2009 05:18:17
I'm a supporter of the SNP but for the life of me I can't understand why Salmond keeps this fool McAskill. If he had half a brain, he'd be dangerous.
8

an interested party,

13/05/2009 06:12:10
air guns with more than 12 lbs feet of pressure are considered 'firearms' (or is it 12 m/s velocity )

When guns are outlawed ... only outlaws have guns

when privacy is outlawed only outlaws will have privacy

i really can believe that there is a correlation of legally and illegal held guns.

seeing as its impossible to get a figure of illegal weapons (unless you make it up for that extra fear effect)
9

an interested party,

13/05/2009 06:36:10
if for example the polis found and removed 1500 illegally held fire arms then all that could be said was that there had been a reduction of illegal guns to the tune of 1500 and nothing else

although i would love to see how this paper would spin that one
10

overton,

aberdeen 13/05/2009 06:47:48
Can someone in the SNP please advise what the connection is between legally held firearms and those held by criminals?

Firearms legislation within the UK is tight enough now with the controls in place even to the extent that ammunition and weapons are to be stored in separate BS Standard gun cabinets - all of which are inspected and approved by the authorities.

Firearms Certificate holders are thoroughly vetted and anyone who has a criminal past will not be considered. The legislation is such that if a holder so much as looks sideways at the poor, misunderstood, underprivileged, heroin addicted vandals who are setting fire to the local church hall then the Police Force may remove that Certificate.

Any failures in the past are purely down to local Police forces issuing firearms certificates to un-vetted individuals on the back of their questionable membership of gun clubs.
11

The Wanderer from the South,

13/05/2009 07:21:11
Can the paper give an example of what they mean by pistol or revolver as they were banned. I do shoot nowdays using a long barrelled revolver (nice and legal. A pity that papers didn't carry our real investigations and stop sensationalist garbage.
12

yockel,

13/05/2009 08:22:16
No news is good news, that is why we read the Scotsman.
13

sam the god,

13/05/2009 08:23:38
#8
it is 12 foot pounds that is the limit for an non FAC airgun.
#11

I agree with you this is just scare tactics from our politicians and the press they do not tell the public the true facts about fire arms legislation (what is legal and what is not)
14

ignorant townie?,

Scotland 13/05/2009 09:07:43
Im not a big fan of guns in general but I have to agree that the link between legal and illegally held guns just isnt there...criminals dont go round buying guns from gamekeepers and farmers..

However...tight controls on legeally held weapons at least mean that they can be taken off anyone shown to be unfit - habitual drinker, sadistic wildlife killer, mentally unstable.

I have seen a far far too casual attitude to shotguns and cartridges in particular in the countryside and there have been far too many cases of people leaving them in unlocked vehicles or behind the kitchen or barn door.....thats despite tight controls...what would it be like if they were relaxed??
15

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 13/05/2009 09:44:14
"Kenny MacAskill should get on with the job of tackling those outside the system rather than continuing his endless demands for more powers."

Hear! Hear!

And that applies to almost every area MacAskill has attempted to "fix" since he came to office.
16

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 13/05/2009 09:52:43
#2:

Concurred.

#7:

I'm with you there. If it wasn't for MacAskill and Robison, the SNP would be credible. This pair make them a laughing stock, and a dangerous one at that.

#8:

Excuse my ignorance here, but last time I did physics, pressure was measured in pounds per square inch (force/area). Torque may be measured in pounds feet (force × distance). Accordingly, I can't see how you can legislate based upon a criteria that is essentially incorrect.
17

sam the god,

13/05/2009 12:02:59
here is a link to a site that works out the difference of an FAC air gun or not

http://extorian.co.uk/shooting/pellets.html

18

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 13/05/2009 13:12:57
#17:

Ahh!! You mean foot-pounds force, not foot pounds.

Now it makes sense.
19

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

13/05/2009 13:14:27
Shame on them for prosecuting the teacher. I'd have happily given him a medal for using a gun to prevent crime, and for doing so in a restrained way likely to prevent injury to passersby.

What we need to reduce crime in Scotland is more armed citizens of this man's calibre.
20

Ifan Har,

Scotland 13/05/2009 13:33:11
Restrict firearm ownership and you ensure that only the criminals in any given society will be the ones possessing the firearms to terrorise the law abiding populace with!

Without arms you are a subject of the state, with the right to own firearms you become a citizen of that state!
21

Douglas,

Bathgate 13/05/2009 15:31:00
#16 Petrolhead: "a criteria that is essentially incorrect" or
a criterion that is essentially incorrect.


Now it makes sense
22

Dougie - Edinburgh,

13/05/2009 20:44:09
Pity all the judges and lawyers don't have to live in Granton because if they did, they'd have a sense of perspective. How obscene that a teacher is been hounded out of his job and heavily fined for little more than trying to defend himself on his own property. In Texas, if he'd shot the thugs after being attacked on his own property, he'd be regarded as a hero by his neighbours and police alike. Here, he's being persecuted and he didn't even shoot them. The thugs must be laughing.
23

VAR,

Zavelstein 13/05/2009 23:10:12
Too bad the court fined and suspended the teacher who had been assaulted. No mention of the thugs being caught, fined, etc. I bet they got off and are continuing their assaults, intimidation, etc. So much for justice. Easier to go after a schoolteacher than a real threat to society. There are enough laws on the books and there is enough hassle already in obtaining a weapons permit, mounting the gun safe, police interviews, etc. (I had a shotgun certificate in the UK). It would be really nice if the authorities would punish perpetrators of crime instead of all the citizens, but then, most citizens don't resist incremental losses of their freedom.

 

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