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Published Date: 08 November 2008
ALEX SALMOND has accepted the blame for the SNP's defeat at the Glenrothes by-election.
The First Minister said he had got things wrong in Glenrothes, having failed to deal with the local issue of how the council had reorganised home care charges.

Saying he had "misjudged" the matter, he admitted he made a mistake in failing to react to Labour's attacks on the issue.

He said: "We were overwhelmed by a campaign that was local and entirely negative, based on scaremongering. The SNP will be back to defeat that kind of campaign."

SNP activists have also been quick to blame the First Minister for the election defeat.

Jim Sillars, the former SNP deputy leader who has previously clashed with Mr Salmond, said the SNP had become a "one man band" and that Mr Salmond's predictions of an SNP victory had caused problems. He said: "It became not Labour's to hold, but the SNP's to lose."





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  • Last Updated: 08 November 2008 10:12 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Glenrothes by-election
 
1

steve 1511,

aberdeen 08/11/2008 12:49:16
it has been confirmed by 19946 misguided voters of glenrothes that our great leader comrade broon the fifer leader of the liebour stasi sleaze and corruption party can continue on his destruction of britian with his policies of

millions in unemployement
economy in deep reccession
100ks to lose their homes
inflation rampant
companies failing every day
rip off by energy companies to continue
rip off by oil companies to continue
highest tax levels ever on the working population to be maintained
house prices to continue in a downward spiral
100 of billions to be squandered on the banks
the list is endless
we are doomed with broon and his vote winning policies that the fifers have chosen WE ARE DOOMED
2

Marian,

08/11/2008 13:19:15
New Labour and its media acolytes really are clutching at straws if they think that their retaining an ultra safe constituency in Old Labour tribal heartlands a few miles from their so-called leaders home by a considerably reduced majority is somehow an endorsement of their leader and his economic management of the UK economy.

They are kidding themselves on even more if they think they can risk calling a UK General Election on the back of their retention of their Glenrothes seat. The reality is that Glenrothes was merely an irrelevant side-show in the greater scheme of things as UK General Elections are won and lost in England where the media is not so easily controlled and the electorate are not so easily duped.

New Labour have lied to us, not once, but repeatedly for more than a decade. And now all the lies are being exposed. The myth of Brown's economic "genius" is coming tumbling down and the whole shoddy edifice of debt-ridden idiocy is displayed for all of us to see.

The wheels will come off New Labour's bus in the next 12 months as voters witness famous UK businesses folding on a weekly basis and unemployment rocketing to 1930's levels when the UK recession really begins to take hold.

All the evidence points to a resounding thrashing of New Labour by the Tories in England come the next UK General Election. The Tories will take not only the suburbs, the market towns and the rural seats, but will rip England's cities free also. Gordon Brown will be very lucky if New Labour retain a hundred seats next time round. With a 5% swing as happened in Glenrothes it will lose votes and other so-called 'safe' heartland seats to Plaid Cymru in Wales and to the SNP in Scotland.

New Labour will fall back on its tribal heartlands once they have been ousted from control of the UK Government. However if their past record is anything to go by they will meekly accept any retaliatory punishment that the Tories impose on Scotland and Wales.

Devolution as it i
3

Marian,

08/11/2008 13:19:30
continued.......

Devolution as it is practised is never going to satisfy Scots as there is too much interference with it by New Labour at Westminster. And the aspiration for an independent Scotland will never go away. It has lasted for a hundred years or more and will continue until independence is granted.
4

deltahotel,

Edinburgh 08/11/2008 13:36:23
It is hardly news that Alex's mouth is bigger than his brain.
5

me150,

08/11/2008 14:25:36
So is he going to resign then.....I think not. Just remember this man turned his back on the SNP and only returned when they had no-one able to lead the party when they were getting a wee bit of popularity. If he was to go the SNP would wither and die in a very short period of time.

Goan eckie goan dae us aw a favour.

As for the SNP voters, well at least you lot on here, blame Gordon Brown and the government for everything, it is all their fault......

Total bolloc*s....

Every developed country in the world is having the same problems, blame him for that too.

Recession is worldwide, not a UK only issue....
job losses and inflation come with the worldwide issues, not UK issues.....
Companies fall for, you guesed it, the same reason....
Energy and oil is being hit in every country, guess why?
Tax levels have been higher, if they were lower would you accept lower levels of government services, I don't think so. The money has to come from somewhere. Have you a spare billion or 2 to donate so we can get tax cuts. Tax cuts are the wrong way to go.

House prices are way too high, way too overpriced and NEED to come down dramatically to get the proper housing market running effectively for the normal person. So what if you are having trouble with your mortgage, you should have considered this possible situation before you overcommitted your finances, your problem, nobody elses.

The banks need to be powerful, maoney has to go to them. They also need reformed so this doesn't happen again, but this is a worldwide issue yet again. If the government were to do what you say the country would be in a worse position as it would be at a disadvantage to all other countries, recession would be worse, unemployment massively higher etc etc etc...need I say more?

It is obvious that most of you have little or no understanding of economics and what is actually happening with the economy etc so you are hardly positioned to critcise!!!!

The biggest problem right
6

me150,

08/11/2008 14:27:26
The biggest problem right now is from speculators, between them and the press the normal person and many financers are selling stock at giveaway prices. If everyone were to stop selling this way the markets would recover quicker and the economy would bounce back, but no, far too many people are being influenced by speculators and often reporters looking for front page headlines.

You think we are in recession, just wait a bit. The true effects of recession are still to come, just wait until interest rates high much higher levels as they did a couple of generations ago. Blame Gordaon for this will you...I bet you do. He takes the blame for issues well out of his control.
7

antp,

UK 08/11/2008 14:28:26
1, 2, 3

It's all ok isn't it? Scot's will unite together, brave, brave souls vote for independence - we're all together in this aren't we? that is of course, unless you live in Fife where they think for themselves.

If you want to gain any credibility for your cause then stop thinking that all Scot's think alike - i.e., like you - because clearly,as was demonstrated on thursday night, they do not.
8

Joe wolson,

Bad Losershire 08/11/2008 14:28:35
Like the comment about 100's of billions to be squandered on the banks. Which ones might they be?

9

Joe wolson,

Bad Losershire 08/11/2008 14:36:47
How dare Unionist trolls post here.

The purpose of these blogs is for patriots like Marian, Steve 1511 and me to have a massive whinge about how Scotland's party were robbed of the election by a conspiracy of Cheats, Liars, Crooks and Englishmen.

And us always being so nice about Labour too. It's just not fair
10

antp,

UK 08/11/2008 14:41:58
9 hmmm the cheats, liars and crooks, does that mean politicians or the Tories?
11

subrosa,

08/11/2008 14:51:04
# 5

Oh dear, rose tinted specs right enough and your wonderful leader is the best thing to happen to Scotland. Aye right.

So the IMF are wrong when they say the UK will have the worst recession for generations when other countries are surviving it much better.

I know who I'd believe regarding the country's finances - aye you've guessed it, the IMF.

As for your paragraph saying Alex Salmond turned his back on the SNP that's drivel and you know it. About the only thing you know by the content of your post.
12

Joe wolson,

Bad Losershire 08/11/2008 15:01:52
As every patriot knows the crooks and liars are the labour party and their relentless negative campaigning when all we in the SNP were trying to do was put forward our message in a positive light without criticising anybody.

Well in the words of the late Adolf Shickelgruber - "NO MORE MR. NICE GUY FOR US"

13

Scythia,

08/11/2008 15:11:12
No 5 :There is no housing crash in Germany, France , Belgium, Italy and most of these countries are expecting a mild short term downturn only. The IMF are predicting a far worse outlook for Britain due to high levels of personal debt. The economy here and the US was fuelled by high personal debt and poor regulation. No wonder the French and Germans are blaming the Anglo-American Governments for dragging their economy down. One could more accurately state that Brown had a direct hand in creating this recession.
14

antp,

08/11/2008 15:43:16
12 quoting Hitler does you no favours, what are you going to do, dress up like mel gibson and go down the Spar taking out anyone who does not agree with you? you listen to politicians too much, Salmond is forever criticising, it's not down to who he represents, all politicians do it. On political bandwagons like the SNP when they they are doing well they feel they can do no wrong, events like what occured on thursday finaly bring them down to earth. You say "all we in the SNP were trying to do was put forward our message in a positive light without criticising anybody". Yet in your previous posts you call people cheats, liars, crooks and blame others for hoodwinking fellow Scots - then you quote Hitler - are you sure you are not BNP instead of SNP? You stated those words, and they are on here for all to see.
15

Joe wolson,

Bad Losershire 08/11/2008 15:57:43
antp. I take it that sarcasm is not your thing.
16

antp,

08/11/2008 16:32:20
15, hmmm, i did have a late nite last night i must admit, but i am as sarcastic as the next man, honest.
17

gus1940,

Edinburgh 08/11/2008 16:57:32
Am I alone in feeling that there is a nasty smell about the Glenrothes result.

Even Labour were conceding defeat at the beginning of the count over and above all parties, the media and the bookies.
18

antp,

08/11/2008 17:03:42
17, i'm not sure about the Glenrothes result but i know what you mean, I had the same feeling in 2006 when all those ballot papers were not counted and the SNP got in.
19

SNP hypocrisy,

08/11/2008 18:01:45
17. Yes you are. You are also clearly someone who cannot accept defeat graciously. The SNP deserved a serious kick in the ballots for claiming it their victory before the votes had even been cast. What a bunch of undemocratic scum the SNP actually are. No matter, Glenrothes is the start of the turning point for Scottish Labour and the SNP will soon be out on their ear and shoved back into political oblivion. :-) Interesting to note that SNP activists are now turning on Alex Salmond and blaming him for the lost opportunity.
20

SNP hypocrisy,

08/11/2008 18:05:33
12. Your complimentary mention of Adolf Hitler during your sour-grapes SNP whining is a disgrace. It doesn't surprise anyone though, A nationalist is a nationalist. Run along little Nat-zi.
21

SNP hypocrisy,

08/11/2008 18:07:21
"SNP activists have also been quick to blame the First Minister for the election defeat" - Intersting to see how fast they turn on their fat fuhrer. :-D
22

gus1940,

Edinburgh 08/11/2008 22:51:56
#19

Don't forget that Gordon Brown said he was prepared to do anything to thwart independence.

 

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