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Published Date:
18 July 2007
GEORGE Galloway, the Respect MP, faces suspension from parliament for 18 days after an inquiry by its standards watchdog chronicled his charity's links to Saddam Hussein's regime.
Following a lengthy investigation, the standards and privileges committee censured Mr Galloway for damaging parliament's reputation over links to the Mariam Appeal, an Iraq children's charity.

Mr Galloway was also criticised for failing to register an interest and "excessive" use of taxpayer-funded facilities for the cause.

The committee also said he should be heavily punished for concealing funding from Saddam Hussein's former regime and for unjustified attacks on the inquiry itself.

The report came at the end of a detailed investigation into the Mariam Appeal by Sir Philip Mawer, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards.

While there was no evidence showing Mr Galloway had profited from Saddam Hussein's regime, Sir Philip said; at best, he had "turned a blind eye" to where money was coming from for his Mariam Appeal, which was found to have been partly funded by the UN Oil for Food Programme.

Although Mr Galloway had insisted he had no idea where his major donors obtained their money, Sir Philip found the MP was probably "complicit" in concealing the true source of his funds.

The suspension will also be implemented for his "calling into question" the integrity of standards watchdogs. The committee has recommended Mr Galloway be suspended for 18 days from 8 October after the summer recess, but this must be approved in a vote by MPs.

Mr Galloway hit out at the report, insisting he had been punished for his "robust" defence by "a jury of my political enemies".

As part of his investigation, Sir Philip also published a memo documenting a meeting in August 2002 between Saddam and Mr Galloway. It showed the then-Iraqi president telling Mr Galloway "we are on the same wavelength" about Britain's role in the looming war.

Mr Galloway ended the meeting by saying: "We are now suffering from the problem of the price of oil, which has resulted in a reduction in our income and delay in receiving our dues."

Sir Philip said he had no reason to believe the memo was anything other than authentic. He also commissioned an independent forensic analyst to examine documents at the centre of a successful libel trial by Mr Galloway, and these were also found to be "authentic" by experts.

Sir Philip said: "The existence of the appeal, with resources eventually of £1.4 million, was a substantial material benefit to Mr Galloway in achieving his political objectives."

Mr Galloway pointed out that Sir Philip had not found he profited from the programme personally, adding: I will not allow people to make false allegations against me. If you aim low blows at me I will fight back. That's what I've done and that's what I've been suspended for."

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  • Last Updated: 18 July 2007 7:34 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: George Galloway
 
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george alexander,

north lanarksire 18/07/2007 01:45:19

Behave yourself Dragonhead, the man is a blowhard no more no less. To spend this much effort into fitting him up is disgracefull when the people who manipulated evidence and lied to get us to illegally invade did so with apparent impunity.

I recommended you read Al Gore's excellent 'The Assault On Reason' as well as Al Franken's 'Lies and Lying Liars' and 'The Truth' to see how the establishment are manipulating information in the public domain and demonising dissenters.

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Derek B,

Sydney 18/07/2007 02:13:50

Why can't people today just focus on individual wrongs and condemn them (No2) instead of watering down everything with other issues. Every body knows about the lies e.tc, however, it does not excuse anybody from behaving correctly and in the national interest, or excuse those who condone such behaviour. Galloway, it appears, has not acted correctly on a number of issues and subsequently demonised himself. If the cap fits he should be made to wear it.

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english nabob,

18/07/2007 02:35:59

looks to me as if George could do with a shave (werewolve boy). I know what that hand gesture means but,i am too polite to say.I wonder if that's to the labour party.

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James,

Dundee 18/07/2007 04:49:55

We've not heard the last of the former darling of the Labour Party, Galloway.
The suspension has more to do with having the temerity to challenge the integrity of the committee than anything they proved.
He has taken on the criminal Conrad Black and won.
He has taken on the cavalier/shyster Senator Norm Coleman and his dimwits on their own patch and won.
He is no more a criminal than Blair, Campbell, Mandelson or Levy.
Lets be straight, George has a huge ego and is no angel (as anybody who dealt with him on Dundee Labour knows well). He's always been a poseur.
Is that a crime?
He's also been consistently been pro-Palestine, Anti-Zionist, and I think that this is where the root of his ongoing problems lie.

Good luck George, the full weight of the establishment is out to get you.
Such a pity you are a Unionist.

#1 As I live and breath, A Daily Telegraph reader.

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Fez,

Mauritius 18/07/2007 05:41:05

Good for you George!

You are a master in revealing the truth about sordid politicians who are responsible for death and carnage of so many innocent people in Irak. Do you think that Bush and Blair will lose any sleep on what they have unleashed? I doubt it.

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18/07/2007 05:43:48
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maxi,

18/07/2007 06:57:55

why is it England gets lumbard with all scotlands crack pots!!!!

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Sean K,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 07:04:12

Well said, James, dundee, and Fez, Mauritius !

The real criminals of the Blair / Bush administrations get off with murder and billion dollar rip-offs, while this man who tried to help sick kids from Iraq gets pilloried over and over again despite being cleared by every court set up to try him.

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Jason,

Japan 18/07/2007 07:06:29

"Censured Mr Galloway for damaging parliament's reputation."
Now that must have been hard to say with a straight face.

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hertscot,

18/07/2007 07:26:35

"damaging parliament's reputation" - bloody difficult thing to do I would imagine.

#8 ..because we don't want them!

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18/07/2007 07:31:08
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maxi,

18/07/2007 07:46:51

11. niether do we!!!!!

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18/07/2007 08:28:12
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puskas,

18/07/2007 08:31:46

No's 5, 9, 10, 11, 12...........

I agree with all these comments....

A man who is a thorn in the shoes of all that is evil in government.

Anyone know who sat on this committee.. It would give us further laughter in the days to come.

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Truth Finder,

18/07/2007 08:35:35

This scum called for a suicide attack on a British Prime Minister and said British troops were legitemate targets in Iraq and Afghanistan. Guess what Galloway!!?! You're a xxxxxx! Taking money from a murderous dictator under the guise "Oil for Food" and not disclosing the fact. You should xxxx!!!

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 08:55:08

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James, Dundee - first class post. I agree 100%.

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Biker,

Ayr 18/07/2007 09:03:35

Treason my arse Dragonhead. Anyone who has the courage and the convictions of this man deserves our support. I would agree that George Galloway has an ego, but he also has a big heart and a sharp and incisive mind. Because he has the timmerity to attack the establishied views does not make him a traitor.
All the best George!!

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PJ,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 09:13:18

Saucer of milk for Mr Galloway!

George Galloway deserted his own constituency to appear on Big Brother and said that his interest in participating in the programme was just self-interest, hardly a statement of an MP who is supposed to have the interest of his constituents at mind.

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 18/07/2007 09:31:41

Not sure about the 'is it a beard or not look', but have to say that George G does seem to spend a lot on his appearance...... always, well cut suits and good shoes. Carly Simon's hit 'You're so vain' could have been written for George G.

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18/07/2007 09:40:35
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maxi,

18/07/2007 09:48:36

If this guy wasn't so cack handed,he'd be dangerous!

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PJ,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 09:51:05

It is not a surprise Galloway didn’t use the Father Ted defence, “the money was just resting in my account.”

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AJ of Fife,

Fife 18/07/2007 09:55:51

James of Dundee sums George up perfectly and the word 'consistent', is the key to Galloway's strength. While the rest of his ex-labour numpty pals have jostled to fit in with the war mongering, ultra-right wing New Labour, Galloway stayed the same, costing him his party membership!! His ex-collegues must have a hard job looking at themselves in the mirror!!!

He's been proved to be totally correct with his take on the Iraq War and the bloody aftermath. Despite the US and UK goverments trying their hardest to stitch him up, he still thrives and his celebrity keeps rising!!!

Despite his unionist leaning, he gets my respect!!! How about having a look at Blair's conduct!!?? Being partly reponsible for the loss of a million or so lives, must warrant scrutiny surely????

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 09:57:00

21

Langtonian, you remembered that I am a Dundonian. I am indeed honoured.

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Alex.,

18/07/2007 10:00:47

We could do with more like George Galloway in Parliament instead of those who meekly obey their masters, also known as party whips. He really riles those with loyalties to Israel by standing up for Palestinian refugees. But the truth hurts and George irritates the establishment. The composition of the committee leaves a great deal to be desired and can hardly be described as impartial. Keep yes men out of parliament! How can a convicted arsonist like Lord Watson be a member of the House of Lords when he could so easily have been charged with murder instead of arson. He should have been out on his ear instead of Galloway but obviously the establishment look after their own!

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 10:21:26

Given Mr Galloway's enthusiasm for suing those who tell lies about him, I am very surprised that the Scotsman has allowed comments on this story.

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AJ of Fife,

Fife 18/07/2007 10:26:50

I think George should stand for the Mayor of London job, he's certainly more credible than the fool Boris.

That would fairly grate the cookies of the establishment - how funny would that be???:D

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 10:33:07

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Not a bad suggestion AJ but he's still a pal of Ken L.

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Homo Sapiens,

18/07/2007 10:34:50

18 days? Not enough. This self-serving egomaniacal, arrogant, charlatan and wordsmith should be removed from parliament!

His fiery rhetoric is aimed at misdirecting the attention of the public from his own misdeeds, and self-dealing, trying to portray himself as a modern day Robin Hood... by selling his voice and position to the Arab lobby in exchange for illicit "donations" while trying to point a finger at other politicians is pure hypocricy.

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AJ of Fife,

Fife 18/07/2007 10:42:20

TMWK,

It was just a thought, but if it was a possibility, it would scare the cr*p out of the Establishment!!:D

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18/07/2007 10:42:47
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AJ of Fife,

Fife 18/07/2007 10:43:31

Homo Sapiens,

Are you talking about Tony Blair?

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 18/07/2007 10:56:32

I wonder if Boris and George G are friends...... they have similarities. Both are loose cannons with a propensity for spouting non-conformist remarks which deviate from their respective party line and being ticked off on numerous occasions by the 'powers that be'.

Mind you Boris is more bouffant than George G.... so they'll never be able to exchange hairdressing tips.

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 11:03:26

34

Not a Unionist etc, stop sitting on the fence. Say what you mean.

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 11:30:41

Is he still facing suspension, Why haven't they just said George your suspended for 18??? or more/ less days form the house of commons.

Why give the guy so much publicity. The man is famous for acting like a cat instead of serving his constituency.

I wonder where he'll stand in next MP elections!!!!
I hope he does us all a favour and stand in the seat that he currently elected, save us all the grief.

I wouldn't vote for a party called the Respect party, too me it comes across as demanding respect from the public.

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maxi,

18/07/2007 11:44:38

37. Only so I can annoy you;lol.

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I,

18/07/2007 11:50:54

Keep going George! I'll take you any day over the liers, thiefs and lackeys who have run this country for the last 10 years.

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PJ,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 11:50:55

#21 Maybe they admire his indefectibility (Having no flaw or defect; perfect)!

As Galloway is rarely in the chamber (at least when I am watching) I cannot imagine that this will make much difference to him.

He is a master storyteller the only problem is the story itself is always about George, the misunderstood visionary, the heroic Good Samaritan all he needs is white horse and shiny armour. As far as I am concerned that would be tainted.

Galloway has a reputation as a fiery left-winger and advocates redistribution of wealth, well as long as some is redistributed via his bank account.

Although the authenticity of the documents obtained by the Guardian, with respect of the proceeds of the Oil for Food programme were not an issue for the court, Galloway repeatedly cast doubt on their origin and later in the House of Commons, under the protection of parliamentary privilege, (one of his fleeting appearances) absurdly accused the Guardian correspondent of being a liar, and thereby of having committed perjury. Something he wouldn’t have said, without protection of parliamentary privilege.

No wonder he got a kicking, by a gang of men at Glasgow Airport. I think he should have been hoisted up by his own leotard…whoops petard!

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18/07/2007 12:19:05
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maxi,

18/07/2007 12:25:44

42. Only if you promise to take them for a walk every day!!

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maxi,

18/07/2007 12:38:39

44.COOL!!!!

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maxi,

18/07/2007 12:43:08

45. You really do have a bee in your bonnet about England, get over it, 50 million against 5.2 million, yep, DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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18/07/2007 12:46:59
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Flabskin,

Badfort 18/07/2007 12:49:47

#27 Alex

"We could do with more like George Galloway in Parliament..."

I hate to shock your finely-honed political instincts Alex, but the fact is that Parliament is already full of (literally) hundreds of self-seeking opportunists who are quite happy to consort with, curry favour with, take money from, and generally @rsecreep to a wide selection of despots, torturers and murderers, if they see some prospect of advancing their own interests in the process.

While I am sure that Saddam Hussein had many fine qualities that single him out as a particularly 'good' despot, torturer and murderer, I am not convinced that we really do need even more George Galloways in Parliament.

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Seeker123,

UK 18/07/2007 12:56:22

Established theives with the support of Legislative power.

Vs

Just a thief

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Cloughie's_Gonna_Cuff_U,

18/07/2007 12:56:38

for all those who think 'Gorgeous George' is a champion of the left - think hard - he supported Saddam's regime which was as facist as Nazi Germany. Why is it that democracy is ok for us in the 'west' while it should be denied to others.

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James,

Dundee 18/07/2007 13:11:09

#34 Neither Fish nor Fowl.

I'm sure he cut you off on his radion talkshow!

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James,

Dundee 18/07/2007 13:11:32

#57 Oops radio!

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PJ,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 13:14:08

#56

Maxi discussing your earning potential, doesn’t get you Scooby Doo and Blue Peter badge!

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Em,

18/07/2007 13:14:55

George Galloway is passionate about truth and justice and has spoken out against an unjustifiable war, this is why there has been so much media spin put out against him.

Listen to the following link and you'll know the truth behind all the spin. At around the eleventh minute of the interview it is discussed that people have admitted to forging documents against Galloway regarding the oil for food program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjdFDen4PIQ

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18/07/2007 13:17:17
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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 13:27:48

58

Methalions, you are right - it wouldn't buy a doughnut.

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 13:28:53

Maxi - did you sort out the problem with the tartans?

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 13:33:05

Gorgeous George love him or loath him you've got to admire his ability to debate.

His character faults are well documented, is that a reason for exclusion these days from public office?

I saw the coverage of his appearance before the US Senate and he had them for breakfast, no mean feat, it had me laughing out loud.

With his wife's family connections to the Palestinians it will only take until they are recognised as a legitimate state in their own right and then become politically 'fashionable' as with South Africa, and GG will be in some measure rehabilitated.

His fawning to Saddam's 'indefatigability' came across really badly, but what did he actually say?
'I admire your stamina'? he could have said 'persistant wee b**t**d aren't you'? It would have meant the same thing.

In any other circumstances it would have been recognised as a subtle put down.

I for one admire Gordon Brown's indefatigabilty. He's been around for a while.

Honest Tony a legitimate target for terrorists?
Didn't we legitimise 'regime change'?We've killed more innocent Iraqis than the Bathists ever did.
We tried to bomb Saddam in his own home, we killed his sons, perhaps GG was making a point, a case of 'sauce for the goose'?

WMDs? We sold them to Saddam in the first place and GG was right, after Desert Storm there were none left to be found in Iraq, the reasons for invading have been shown to be false, Galloway was again correct.

I do not for one minute agree with Galloways politics, heaven forbid, but he is another Tony Ben, demonised in his day by his own party but a considerable operator in his own right.

Remember Scargill and the Miners strike in 85? The baldy comb over was the antichrist, but history shows that what he'd warned about the future of the coal industry was right on the money.

Just because the BBC and the British popular media paints him as an evil clown doesn't make it so.

18 days? A sla

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maxi,

18/07/2007 13:38:05

68. That is below the belt,and I expect an apology!

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 13:39:08

58. Methalions

>>>You earn 25 grand a year? I wouldn't get out my BED for that kind of money.<<<

That's all very well but surely your bum would get sore?

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Alex.,

18/07/2007 13:51:50

#49. You miss the point, perhaps deliberately. You may not agree with Galloway's opinions but he has every right to hold them - even in this politically correct world. Free speech is still permissible. MP's are elected to represent their constituents and not their parties believe it or not, but party whips ensure they do what they are told if they want to (1) hopefully keep their job at the next election or (2) get promotion. Parliament does not represent the views of the population but represents the few who control the parties and that covers extreme left wing to extreme right wing. As for Saddam Hussein and George Galloway - they were not best of friends. Galloway didn't look good on the TV scraping to Hussein but he was trying to gain his favour. And while you think I was against the removal of Saddam I was all for it. The war was easily won its just a pity that Bush and company didn't have the savvy to plan before the war how they would win the peace. Maybe they thought Rambo was on their side so all the Arabs would just roll over to get their tummies tickled. How wrong they were. In the middle east their mentality is the bigger and better the gun the bigger the man. Sad really as any ex serviceman with middle east experience could have told them that.

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maxi,

18/07/2007 13:52:03

72. IT's not only his bum, think his ego has taken a knock too.

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 13:59:20

74. maxi
That whooshing sound was another joke flying right over your head.

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pehman,

sussex 18/07/2007 14:01:55

34 Not a uni or a nat + 36 TMWK,
What are you pair arguing about, am still in shock- a had to go to school wi that ejit

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maxi,

18/07/2007 14:08:23

75.sorry, this wedding thing,is VERY stressful,how do folks cope?

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PJ,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 14:09:39

Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair, does that sound like the rational thinking of normal human, certainly not someone the deserves any respect.

Even The Stop the War Coalition criticised Mr Galloway saying “We don't agree with Tony Blair's actions, but neither do we agree with suicide bombers or assassinations.”

Just hours after four bomb attacks killed 52 people on London's transport system on July 7th , Mr Galloway said the city had "paid the price" for Mr Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He is often caught in a web of lies and deceit, Galloway does what comes so naturally for him rant and rave and raise the spectre of a million Iraqi children killed, not because Hussein spent millions or billions building his palaces, but because the West placed sanctions on the dictator’s regime.

I suppose he thinks if he yells loud enough people will believe him. I think not. He looks the fool drooling from the very oil he drank from Hussein's cup.

Anyway is busy sucking up to Fidel Castro’s regime at the moment, to see how much he can tap from them.

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 14:11:03

77. maxi
Make a list of who gave what as wedding presents, and put your name on all of your records CDs and DVDs, trust me it'll save you so much grief later on.

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 14:13:08

76

Pehman, so you are a Harris FP in your early 50s who frequented the Rock are you? Now let me think ...

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maxi,

18/07/2007 14:19:24

79. Thanx, god I wish this was over,I love don to bits,but this is really hard1!

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 14:24:22

78. PJ, Edinburgh
Suicide bombing cannot ever be justified under any circumstance, unless it is by one of our brave pilots.

Regime change can never be justified unless it is done by using a submarine launched cruise missile to catch them unawares in their beds.

No tears were shed by us when we bombed Gadaffis home and killed his daughter.

As always it is always innocent civilians and the general population who 'pay the price' for our politicians decisions to go to war.

How many wars and casualties could be avoided if we just provided co-ordinates for the presence of all our world leaders day and night so that it would be them and not some child who was the first casualty of war?

Caught up in lies and decieit, are we now going to make that a dismissal offence for a parliamentarian?

A novel idea, can't see it working though.

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 14:25:47

80. The Man Who Knows
Daddy!!

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 14:29:11

81. maxi
Keep that kinda patter for the honeymoon, and make the most of it,
it soon wears off.

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 14:35:49

83

Livi, do you realise that George Galloway and Donald Finlay QC both attended Harris Academy, Dundee? There must have been something in the school dinners.

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J M Milligan,

Scot USA 18/07/2007 14:55:06

# 78 No Galloway got the bombing statement wrong....he shouldn't have made such a statement.
What he should have said is.....I'm going to trawl all EU countries and pressurize them into joining me in a lie which will then give me justification to bomb Tony B-liar; that way he won't get done for any crime committed... will he.

I don't like Galloway...but I do give him credit for being up front in every thing he does, no hiding behind doors for this man.

Pity we can't say the same for the Politicians voted in by us in our name, thereby sanctioning the war that now rages.

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 14:56:54

86

Meths, what did your post say? I don't think that I commented on it - ?

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 15:03:57

92

Meths, I remember now. Could my post 28 have something to do with it? Is somebody taking cold feet? What about freedom of speech? What about the freedom of the press?

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18/07/2007 15:06:34
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maxi,

18/07/2007 15:08:22

95/ not me!

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The Man Who Knows,

Republic of Perth 18/07/2007 15:13:56

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Meths, do you mean that some people contibute under different names to these forums? Scurrilous.

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 15:20:13

87+92. Methalions
You were replying to Maxis proud declaration that she's on £25k a year to which I think you replied, for that money you would not get out of bed.

I think I resisted the temptation to make the most obvious comment ;)

However the work life balance is important and its our civic duty point out to Maxi that life is not all about money and material gain.

Seriously, one of the first signs of matrimonial issues is a fixation on obtaining possessions rather than considering the welfare and emotional happiness of each other....

You could also stay in bed for £25k a year, but would it make you happy and think of the damage to your poor body.

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livilion,

livingston 18/07/2007 15:26:24

100. The Man Who Knows
I registered my details with the paper and now all I can change is my password.

We had some American on the other day from North Carolina saying it didn't matter if somebody posted with a similar handle but with s0me_p.unctu@tion.

I was tempted to take a liberty to show him, but my machine wouldn't let me unless I signed on under another username and registered that too.

Realy it ain't such a big deal so I left it.

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maxi,

18/07/2007 15:26:31

103. No it wasn't, someone is playing games, and it's not me.

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maxi,

18/07/2007 15:29:57

103. That's a lie, think it's you1

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PJ,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 15:30:47

#82

I am all choked up by the emoted comment!

So it was acceptable for Saddam Hussain attack the Kurdish town of Halabjah with a mix of poison gas and nerve agents killing 5,000 people, as an act of genocide.

British police constable Yvonne Fletcher was shot dead outside the Libyan Embassy in London while policing an anti-Gaddafi demonstration. A burst of machine-gun fire from within the building was suspected of killing her, but Libyan diplomats asserted their diplomatic immunity and were repatriated in other words got off with it.

The merchant vessel, the MV Eksund intercepted which destined for the IRA, a large consignment of arms and explosives supplied by Libya to commit terrorist acts here.

The US air strike we on "Gadaffis home" followed U.S. interception of telex messages from Libya's East Berlin embassy suggesting Libyan government involvement in a bomb explosion in West Berlin's La Belle discotheque, a nightclub frequented by U.S. personnel killing a Turkish woman and two U.S. servicemen and injuring 230 people.

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tjoookerss the troll,

the troll kngdom 18/07/2007 15:41:48

Methalions

"Meths, do you mean that some people contibute under different names to these forums? Scurrilous."


103. No it wasn't, someone is playing games, and it's not me.


he!he!..he!he!..Be....seeing..you!...he..he..he

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AJ of Fife,

Fife 18/07/2007 15:54:16

Maxi = Ashley!! £25K per annum, 22 year old wifie is the culprit!!!

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Truth Finder,

18/07/2007 16:17:06

Fact is, most Iraqi's are happier without Hussein. People like Galloway have just encouraged the terrorists that are mostly imported. He should be handed over to the Iraqi govt for trial.

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Andrew Allan,

18/07/2007 16:34:22

As a Scot I have always been very proud of our stance on anti-elitism, which has also generally included anti-racism, as I am sure most people in Scotland are. So you could say I was genuinely shocked and dismayed when reading through the Daily Record on Saturday, to find an article on a study into Scottish names, ranking Scots by how Scottish their names are, by a bunch of so called marketing experts called CACI, without the paper saying anything at all about its elitist and racist implications. What’s more the Daily Record didn’t just ignore the implications of the article, but also used it to infer that Sean Connery was less of a Scot due to it, which should surely go against everything we stand for. What’s more if you were to ask people the names of famous living Scot, who in their right mind would say you can’t count Sean Connery because he hasn’t a Scottish sounding name?

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 16:46:06

#47. maxi: ah, you understand the NEED for Scottish Independence!!!!!! Well done, you deceiver a gold star!

And Independence is the only way the Scots could get over it!

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 16:57:39

#112. AJ of Fife,: It's very sad & speaks volume of how narrow minded a persons can be: When they determine how good or how right a person is or can be by the amount of money they get paid.

I dispise materlistic people, I had a chance to work for Herbal relief and make Thousands, selling Folk diet supplements BUT I was discussed when I saw there DVD and how everything was surround by how much the sellers made, let me tell you some of them where making well over £50,000 a year. Sounded like coning folk instead of helping, them lose weight through improving cooking skills, encouraging better diet & exercise.

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Ian_,

usa 18/07/2007 17:24:32

#69

I also watched Galloway's questioning by the US Senate committee. It was a truly remarkable performance. He didn't falter and didn't use notes. The senators couldn't handle him and he really laid into them. I didn't really know much about him beforehand, and some of what I'd heard was fairly negative. After watching him though I concluded that he is a very talented debater. Some American friends asked me about him. They seemed quite pleased at the way he'd put down these senators.

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Andrew Allan,

18/07/2007 17:27:53

The Antifascist, Edinburgh / 7:06pm 17 Jul 2007
‘Andrew Allan: I am referring to the non stop references of the SNP to how they feel that Scotland is the last vestige of the Empire etc – everyone knows the kind of nationalist **** to which I am referring! Such nonsense can only stem from an underlying mindset of bigotry! What is all this absolute **** about “partnership” between Scotland and England by the way? Modern day Scotland is an integral part of the UK and Europe and no more a partner of England than it is a partner of Germany! The political situation at the time of the Act of Union is about as relevant as that which pertained at the time of the birth of Christ! THE ANTIFASCIST IS SICK TO THE BACK TEETH OF THE INWARD LOOKING PAROCHIALISM OF SNP SUPPORTERS!’
Auntie Fash, ‘The’ seems to given you delusions of grandeur, and your anti is but all ironic. Just for you and your friend you view in your mirror, if a country has an Empire and you are joined to it, and then it diminishes, then you are the last vestiges of the Empire, and no self delusional naval watching institutionalised drivel is going to change that. Your ideas on bigotry, and the rest of the civilized world’s, I’m afraid are on two different planes of existence. You wouldn’t recognize a bigot if you saw them reflected in your mirror. As Scots we believe that we are as good as anyone else, and should be treated as so by others, yet even though we were meant to receive at least almost equal treatment by our Westminster government, for the last fifty years or so we have been kicked in the teeth most of the time, with just a little tokenism since the Scottish parliament was agreed. An integral part of the UK you say, but yes it is, but only when the Westminster governments need somewhere to put its deep water nuclear submarines, and tax revenue from gas and oil, try watching the news, you will only find Scottish news when it is felt it will benefit the Westminster government the most, if

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maxi,

18/07/2007 17:34:56

MAGIC HOOPS, YOU ARE A LIER!

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Andrew Allan,

18/07/2007 17:43:44

If anyone was to ask most people, which would you call the energy capital of Scotland, ninety nine percent of people would very quickly say Aberdeen, so what westminster toadie gave Glasgow a £1b energy research centre. Seeing they will have to keep running up to Aberdeen every five seconds.

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James,

Dundee 18/07/2007 17:52:57

The Man who knows, Pehman, Livilion, George Galloway, Donald Findlay etc.

To paraphrase Methy, 'I wouldnt get get out of bed to go to Harris Academy'!!

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Stevie G,

Darlington 18/07/2007 18:04:35

As his record is well below average in speaking in debates and voting. Nobody is going to notice he is suspended

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:12:44

135, at last someone from the north-east!

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:26:17

ALLAN with 2 L'S, think you've put your money on the wrong guy, just wait and see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:27:44

138. YOU ASKED FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:39:36

141. SORRY, I'M SPOKEN FOR!

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 18:40:12

#139. maxi : Do you actually know the meaning of, to have won an argument?

Here's a wee hint: it's not by telling folk that they've lost or that you've won.

P.S. I haven't seen you win an argument yet!!!!
Just labeling attempting to create stigmas and derive an inequality between your self and others, that's NOT wining that's coming a cross like a Fassist behaviour to me!

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kimba,

west midlands 18/07/2007 18:41:26

whats your problem with maxi?

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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 18:43:22

#136 Maxi

I've searched in vain for a poster from the Broch.
Has the post been removed?

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kimba,

west midlands 18/07/2007 18:43:41

Eve do you no the meaning of the words "SPELL CHECK"

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 18:43:55

Why is this conversatinon going on an two diffrent threads it's becoming confussing Know this one is up too #143.

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kimba,

west midlands 18/07/2007 18:44:46

#145 Darlington is in the north east, shall i buy you a map.

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:44:51

eve, guess you haven't been looking very hard!!!!!!!!!

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kimba,

west midlands 18/07/2007 18:47:20

#147 Well pick one and stick to it.

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 18:48:26

#146. kimba: I'm Dyslexic, look it up!!!!
http://www.dyslexiascotland.org.uk/index.aspx?sid=5

Stupid sophisticated spell checker don't work on the Internet and dies because of my unsignificant spelling of some words at some points. So I'm stuck, My only hope is to talk to PC, which I'd do if I didn't have a sore throat.

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kimba,

west midlands 18/07/2007 18:49:05

#151 does it look like i care

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:54:57

SORRY ABOUT YOUR THROAT EVE, TRY WHISPERING!

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maxi,

18/07/2007 18:56:48

153, NOT ME.

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 19:01:44

#149. maxi: I'm dyslexic, NOT stupid, By the way you've been talking to me the past few days, I've seen no evidence of you wining any argument.

Only name calling Labeling, and creating stigmas. That's NOT wining that Fascism that your showing.

I've won arguments in the Past and it wasn't through calling names it was through standing my ground and putting my case through positively which saw me do Chemistry as a standard grade instead of Science standard grade and also saw me sit my French Standard grade. That argument went on for at least 6months.

You could only hope and write that you've won an argument against me. It's the closest you'd get, it's very difficult to win an argument against me, most people give up as I have very strong determination.

P.S.
Just because someone writes something doesn't make it true. Especially when your the person who wrote it.

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kimba,

west midlands 18/07/2007 19:04:38

#160 your scottish, im English what more is there to say, we are just better

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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 19:08:36

#148

That would be very kind of you.

At the same time I shall lend you a copy of my map, which shows that Darlington resides nowhere near the north east of either Scotland or the (currently) United Kingdom.

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Not A Unionist or Nationalist,

Dundee 18/07/2007 19:09:39

#70

Galloway is not fit lace up Tony Benn's shoelaces. To compare him to the great man is an insult.

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Not A Unionist or Nationalist,

Dundee 18/07/2007 19:13:55

Did you know that Galloway supporters at the last election were going round muslim voters and reminding them that the Labour candidadte was half-Jewish?

That makes him despicable in anyone's terms.

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maxi,

18/07/2007 19:55:55

176 no kimba isn't maxi i don't even know who kimba is

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The Fly Fifer,

Fife 18/07/2007 19:59:39

I am a unionist/conservative but I have a great deal of respect for Mr T. Benn .............. Galloway I have no time for

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maxi,

18/07/2007 20:05:58

178. you are really not of this world!

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tjoookerss the troll,

the troll kngdom 18/07/2007 20:17:50

welcome to the KinderGarden . boo..hoo..boo..hoo

were my dummy?were my dummy?were my dummy?

oh! i just pooed my nappy...phew..stinky..winky..woo


were my mummy..whaa....whaa..whaa.

yaargh...puke..been sick..now whaa

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maxi,

18/07/2007 20:19:23

182. yep, so is England, lets take the all the scots out!!!!!!!!

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tjoookerss the troll,

the troll kngdom 18/07/2007 20:25:49

uhh

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maxi,

18/07/2007 20:27:46

Have fun boys,night!

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langtonian,

scotus 18/07/2007 20:33:08

Explain why my #21 posting was deleted? along with 25 other postings, is gogeouse George calling the shots,freedom of speech would appear to have been given the old heave -ho!.
One conosolation is that his supporting posters herewith will surely get the drift of the opprobium Galloway is regarded by many,and they by their association and support eqully so.

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Eve,

Scotland 18/07/2007 21:06:14

#163. kimba: I feel sorry for you because you come across in your post as supporting a wee bit of fascism.

What do you know about the Scots anyway?

Did they not invent just about everything that was worth inventing!!!

If we're so useless how come Roll Royce has their airplane engines built here?

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Not A Unionist or Nationalist,

Dundee 18/07/2007 21:10:12

#188

Some of those who loathe Galloway are people who you would expect to be on his side - those on the left. I have met many on the left who have very little nice to say about GG.

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Not A Unionist or Nationalist,

Dundee 18/07/2007 21:13:33

#189

Had mine removed because it told the truth. But then GG runs quicker to his lawyer than a man with diarrhoea runs to the toilet.

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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 18/07/2007 21:30:07

George is indeed one of those individuals who could be fairly described as an enigma, wrapped in a conundrum.

His support for some of the most downtrodden within society could be seen as admirable.

Palestinians suffering at the hand of Israeli imperialism, Iraqi children at the hands of Western oil militarists, unification of Ireland, advocacy of wealth redistribution through the War on Want charity, and disdain of the aims and objectives of the Orange Order could, and should, endear the bold G to the hearts of many of us who share these basic tenants.

However, GG lets himself down on a number of aspects.

He retained membership of the Labour Party for many years after that particular discredited, corrupt, sleazy and thoroughly dishonourable organisation had been exposed as being the enemies of everything George appeared to stand for.
George had to be dragged squealing and shouting from this odious club, and never has satisfactorily explained why.

Whilst supporting the concept of self-determination in many far flung areas of the world, George opposes this idea in his own country.
His reasoning in this instance, again defies logic.
Palestine should enjoy freedom, but Scotland should be thralled to our economically dominant neighbour, apparently because we can contribute so much in the way of wealth, experience and nous towards UK society.
Well George, Ireland could do that also, do you support the concept of reincorporating Ireland into the UK?

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Truth Finder,

18/07/2007 21:30:31

#192. He's profited nicely from his so called Socialism. Him and that other rat Tommy Sheridan.

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