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Published Date: 24 January 2009
By seon c caimbeul
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THA làrach lìonraidh shòisealta ùr do luchd ionnsachaidh na Gàidhlig ag adhbhrachadh connspaid am measg luchd dèanadais na cànain, a rèir na tha nochdadh air blogaichean 's bùird-bhrath.
Thèid mygaelic.com a chur air bhonn le Bòrd na Gàidhlig gu bhith 'na "portal" (prìomh àite fiosrachaidh) a chosgas £250,000.

Thathas a' dèanamh coimeasan eadar mygaelic.com agus làraichean sòisealta soirbheachail – leithid Facebook agus Bebo, f
ar am bi daoine a' tachairt ri "caraidean" air-loidhne agus a' tàladh feadhainn ùra le deilbh.

Ged a fhuair mygaelic.com fàilte aig luchd nam meadhanan Beurla a bhios a' cumail dlùth ri sanasan naidheachd a' Bhùird, dhòirt cuid a-mach dìobhairt searbh nimheil nam buidhnean poileataigeach Breatannach as glèidhtiche, a tha an aghaidh na Gàidhlig co-dhiù.

Ach sann á treas roinn nam meadhanan, mar gum biodh – na làraichean 's na blogaichean a tha riochdachadh saoghal Gàidhlig tha stèidhichte greis mhath air an eadar-lìon a-nis – a gheibhear na teagmhan as fhasa an tuigsinn.

Se an gearan as motha nach eil mòran feum air làrach shòisealta eile, oir tha làraichean lìonraidh Gàidhlig ann mar-thà, leithid Gaelic Online agus Abair Thusa, nach do chosg sgillinn ruadh don phoblachd.

Gabhaidh leithid Facebook obrachadh le Gàidhlig co-dhiù, gun chosgais sam bith.

Tha cuid a-mach air cho mì-fhreagarrach, leanabail, 's a tha an t-ainm "mygaelic.com", agus gum bi e 'na "rathad cosgail nach eil a' dol àite". Tha cuid eile ag ràdh nach eil Bòrd na Gàidhlig fosgailte gu leòr anns na dòighean maoineachaidh aige.

Tha e àbhaisteach farainmean a chleachdadh air an eadar-lìon, ach tha an gnàths a' cur iongnadh air a' Bhòrd, tha e coltach. Thuirt Ùisdean MacIllinnein ás leth a' Bhùird: "Chaidh tòrr a ràdh 's a sgrìobhadh mu dheidhinn mygaelic.com chun na h-ìre seo, 's gu h-annasach tha a' mhòrchuid dhen a-sin an dìomhaireachd, le daoine a' falach air cùl farainmean. Saoil car son? Tha e cuideachd a' cur iongnadh oirnn gu bheil uibhir de dhaoine cho mì-riaraichte, a rèir aithris agus blogs, mu rud nach do nochd fhathast, agus nach fhaca duine!

"Tha Bòrd na Gàidhlig ro dheònach deasbad agus conaltradh a dhèanamh ri neach sam bith mun obair aca, agus tha làn chuireadh aig duine sam bith tadhal air a' Bhòrd air son barrachd fhaighinn a-mach mu na tha na buill 's an luchd-obrach a' dèanamh."

Thèid mygaelic.com a chur air bhog air 3 no 4 Gearran le pàrtaidh mhòr ann an Ceàrnag Sheòrais, Glaschu.



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  • Last Updated: 23 January 2009 10:46 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

radge dug,

24/01/2009 09:15:29
Coltach gur e caitheamh airgid a th'ann.

San dol seachad, eil BnG a' cumail an coinneamhan sa Ghaidhlig fhathast?
2

Markinch,

Marg Innis 24/01/2009 10:39:59
With £250,000, BnaG could have, e.g., provided Gaelic education in at least one, if not two, secondary schools in Fife. There is currently NO provision for school-age Fifers to learn Gaelic in Fife.

Instead, it seems BnaG is intent on re-inventing the wheel: there are already good Gaelic chat sites about. And BnaG has not even asked for a Plana na Gàidhlig from Fife Council yet.
3

Gràisg,

24/01/2009 11:28:01
Nach intinneach a tha ri leughadh sa Dunoon Observer:

'Bòrd an Gàidhlig awarded Gillian Thompson, a Glaswegian non-Gaelic speaker, the cash to set up mygaelic.com. Ms Thompson pitched her idea of a Gaelic Facebook-style site to the board on behalf of her IT company Creative Cell, and was said to be ‘stunned’ when funding of a quarter of a million pounds was agreed.
4

AyeWrite,

24/01/2009 13:06:59
Had Bòrd an Gàidhlig invested £2,500 rather than £250,000 I doubt there would have been much comment beyond the faintest murmur from any community for or opposed to investment in the language.
But £250,000 for a website has caused an almighty uproar evident on the smallest of blogs such as The Gurn and Inbhirnarann, all the way to the likes of The Scotsman and beyond.
Even though the concept of the ‘new’ mygaelic’ website is not new, it is the massive investment that no-one can understand - how has this money been spent?
Tongues will not rest until we have been told
5

Nìall,

Dùn Éideann 24/01/2009 13:50:26
The average IT salary is over £20,000pa. The overheads of employing a person are sometimes estimated to be as much as twice the staff member's salary £40K. Total cost for one man-year of labour is then anything up to £60K. £250K is little over four man-years of labour, but that includes a high marketing component. £250K isn't much money on a national scale.
6

Sgithman,

Ross-shire 24/01/2009 13:59:38
If you read some forums and blogs it appears the £250k is not just for a website and that while the whole project is rumoured to have cost that amount, there are other large elements to the project, like general advertising promoting Gaelic. Isn't that a good thing and, as Niall says, is £250k such a lot of money on a national scale?

Anyway, nobody has seen the news site yet, so shouldn't they wait to do so before throwing out wild accusations?
7

Steafan,

a Alba, ach ann an Iapan 24/01/2009 14:58:06
'S coltach ge-ta, nach dean larach da-chananach Beurla is Gaidhlig ach comhradh is cabadaich sa Bheurla a bhrosnachadh. Mu dheidhinn na Gaidhlig, 's docha, ach a-reir na fianais a tha ann an seo, ann am Beurla.
8

chools,

24/01/2009 20:04:37
I don’t know of any web development that is spread over two years before you release it, with the speed with which this medium moves so much would be out of date.
So for £250,000 we have one website + publicity saying ‘Learn Gaelic’ ?!
Bòrd an Gàidhlig should have put out an informative press release before the supposed launch party at the end of this month, and then this project might not have been subject to so much speculation?

9

Am bodach eile,

24/01/2009 21:33:18
‘Learn Gaelic?’ Nach eil portal ann mu thràth. ‘S e sin an dleastanas aig Clì nach e?
http://www.iletec.co.uk/cli/learngaelic_indexe.asp

Seo beagan fiosrachaidh bhon dhuilleag ud
‘WELCOME to Learn Gaelic.info - THE information portal for learners of Scottish Gaelic
Learning Scottish Gaelic?
Follow the headings above to find details on clubs, classes and courses, on resources, materials and events, on agencies, projects and services in your area or country.
If you are planning to go to a course or an event please check all information with the organisers before setting out.
Providing a Service?
Learn-Gaelic.info is an opportunity to advertise your service or product for free to learners of all levels and to fluent speakers seeking to improve their language skills. Please use the new input form to submit details of what you offer, or to update or remove information.
Cli Gaidhlig
Learn-Gaelic.info is run by Clì Gàidhlig, the Scottish Gaelic access and promotion organisation. It was developed with financial support from the inter-authority Community Learning and Development Review Group for Gaelic.’

A bheil Bòrd na Gàidhlig ann no an e ‘Bòrd cultar na Gàidhlig tro mheadhan na Beurla’?

Rudeigin eile, carson nach eil geàrr-chunntasan a' bhùird rim fhaicinn air loidhne?
10

Sgithman,

Ross-shire 24/01/2009 23:24:09
Cò tha ag ràdh gu bheil Bòrd na Gàidhlig ag obair tro mheadhan na Beurla, radge dug? Bodach eile: Am b' urrainn dhut mìneachadh 'Bòrd cultar na Gàidhlig tro mheadhan na Beurla'?

A bheil dad mun Bhòrd air nach eil fhios aig a' mhòr shluagh?
11

Sgithman,

Ross-shire 24/01/2009 23:26:33
An e fìrinn na cùise co-dhiù nach bi daoine riaraichte gu sìorraidh le Bòrd den t-seòrsa seo? Dè bu chòir dhaibh a dhèanadh nach eil iad a' dèanamh aig an ìre seo? Tha obair dhuilich aca, nach eil?
12

Am bodach eile,

26/01/2009 09:45:01
Tha fèill mhòr air cultar na Gàidhlig tro mheadhan na Beurla agus nach iomchaidh an t-ainm mygaelic.com? Carson a bha eagal air a’ bhòrd ro ainm Gàidhlig?

Thuirt Sgithman: ‘A bheil dad mun Bhòrd air nach eil fhios aig a' mhòr shluagh?’

Sa chiad dol a-mach ca bheil na minutes? Carson nach robh iad gan cur an àirde?.
13

Tearlach,

Juneau 29/01/2009 07:00:49
"...gu h-annasach tha a' mhòrchuid dhen a-sin an dìomhaireachd, le daoine a' falach air cùl farainmean. Saoil car son?..."

Eibhinn 's gòrach aig an aon àm. Chan eil mòran dìobhaireachd ann. Tha cuid mhòr de na 'farainmean' air a bhith ann o chionn corra bliadhnaichean co-dhiù 's an frith-ainm orm-sa nam measg. Furasda gu leòr fhaighinn a-mach co sinne. Tha cuid againn air nochdadh air an teilebheisean fiù's.

Ceist a th' agamsa: carson a dhiùlt iad taic a thoirt dhan prioseact Dwellys a chur air loighn aig an dearbh àm sa thug iad taic dhan rud a tha cho suarach agus a th' ann mar tha? An àite a bhith a' càineadh na feadhainn a tha a' gearan carson nach eil iad a' toirt feagairt cheart a thoirt air a' chùis?


14

Calum Crubag,

31/01/2009 11:51:53
BnG would be better spending a fraction of that amount publicising what we have already, be it the various blogs and chatrooms or opportunities such as this.

BnG should be taken to task for this waste of money. Also, i'm sure there are plenty Gaels who could develop such a site. Why pay a non-Gaelic speaker to do it? It's like Sabhal Mor with their various English-only members of staff - most of whom seem related to another member of staff. If BnG and Sabhal Mor can't use and encourage/ demand use of Gaelic then is there any hope for our language.

S bochd gu feum mi seo a sgriobhadh sa chanan eile. Ach am biodh cuid aig BnG no SMO ga mo thuigsinn?
15

radge dug,

31/01/2009 14:56:32
Taigh a' Chac air BnG!
16

Iain Mac,

01/02/2009 12:01:36
We need some answers from BnG.
17

Sgithman,

Ross-shire 01/02/2009 15:14:41
Why not ask them then? BnG is a public body and has to answer questions put to it. Has anyone done that?
18

Gràisg,

01/02/2009 18:02:40
Beachd a tha aig an amadan neach-ionnsachaidh a tha seo.

1) Bu chòir do geàrr-chunntasan a’ bhùird rim faicinn air loidhne
2) Bu chòir do coinneamhan a’ bhùird a bhith fosgailte don mhòr-shluaigh.
3) Bu chòir do tagadh a bhith ann gus ballrachd a’ bhùird a dh’fhastadh..

Tha fhios agam nach bhiodh an treas moladh furasta a chur air dòigh ach saoilidh mi gur e amas a tha airidh air rannsachadh.

Thuirt Ùisdean MacIllinnein:
"Tha Bòrd na Gàidhlig ro dheònach deasbad agus conaltradh a dhèanamh ri neach sam bith mun obair aca, agus tha làn chuireadh aig duine sam bith tadhal air a' Bhòrd air son barrachd fhaighinn a-mach mu na tha na buill 's an luchd-obrach a' dèanamh."

Fada nas fhurasta ma dh'fhosglas e an doras didsiteach. Tha iad fo smachd Achd Saorsa an Fhiosrachaidh agus mar a tha iad a ràdh iad fhèin air an làrach aca 'Bidh sinn fhìn cuideachd a' foillseachadh fiosrachadh gun iarraidh a tha sinn a' smaoineachadh bu chòir a bhith ri fhaotainn'* - cuir an àirde a h-uile fiosrachaidh co-cheangailte leis a' chuspair seo agus na minutes bhon a thoisich Am Bòrd.

* http://www.bord-na-gaidhlig.org.uk/am-bord/sgeama-an-fhiosrachaidh.html
19

Gràisg,

01/02/2009 18:07:52
PS am faca sibh uile 'Abair Thusa - Lìon Sòisealta nan Gàidheal'
http://abairthusa.ning.com/
20

Dun Colm,

Alba 02/02/2009 11:10:21
RE: #14 "It's like Sabhal Mor with their various English-only members of staff - most of whom seem related to another member of staff."

Tha mi duilich gu bheil mi rudeigin anmoch a thighinn dhan deasbad a tha seo, ach cò air a bheil thu a-mach an seo, a Chalum? Cò aig nach eil a' Ghàidhlig am measg luchd-obrach an t-Sabhail ach an luchd-glanaidh agus feadhainn anns a' chidsin? Agus tha fhios agam gu bheil iad air a bhith a' feuchainn ri na dreuchdan seo a lìonadh o chionn fhada an t-saoghail ach dè nì thu mura h-eil Gàidheil a' cur a-staigh airson na h-obraichean sin. Feumaidh oileanaich ithe is feumaidh seòmraichean a bhith air an glanadh. Co-dhiù tha fhios agam gu bheil clasaichean Gàidhlig ann airson an fheadhainn nach eil fileanta fhathast.

'S e an trioblaid a th' ann aig SMO, agus an duilgheadas a bh' ann riamh, nach eil an òigridh a tha ann mar oileanaich deònach Gàidhlig a bhruidhinn. Cha chreid mi gur e duilgheadas a th' ann (no a bh' ann riamh) a thaobh an luchd-obrach ach duilgheadas a thaobh inbhe is staid na Gàidhlig a tha cho ìosal am measg Gàidheil òga às na h-eileanan, a dh'ionnsaich a' Ghàidhlig air a' ghlùin, gu bheil iad a' toirt air an luchd-ionnsachaidh, a tha a' dol ann a dh'aona-ghnothach gus a' Ghàidhlig a bhruidhinn, a' Bheurla a chleachdadh mar chànan conaltraidh na colaiste.
21

A.T.,

Edinbugh 03/02/2009 09:46:27
The new mygaelic.com site is now up today. It's attractive, and modern, I'll give them that. But for 250,000 - or even half, or a quarter, or a twentieth of that figure - what a joke in economic terms! As someone involved in web development, this site could have been developed for around 10k max. You could do the site development for around 6k - there are plenty of examples out there, and employ someone part-time to update it - give them 200 quid a month (2,400 a year), include hosting costs (about 500 quid year). There is not much new content so that saves as a lot of the content is taken from the good work of other organisations. That leaves you a grand figure of 10k. You've saved yourself over 240 grand. Even adding on features that I've maybe not included here, its still a scandalous expenditure which could be directed to more worthwhile Gaelic initatives.

240 grand down the drain!
22

A.T.,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 10:03:55
And... the tie up with The Sun newspaper is seriously dodgy. They list The Sun as one of their official supporters, with a friendly quote from The Sun stating how great Gaelic is. Yet only 2 days ago The Sun turned against Gaelic 'Gael Farce'

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article2195560.ece

What are Bord na G. doing associating themselves with these nincompoops?
23

Calum Crubag,

03/02/2009 12:58:41
#20 - Dun Colm

Chan ainmich mi duine an-seo ach b'abhaist aon te gu h-araid a bhith os cionn gnothaichean an taighe - freagairt fonaichean is eile nach bruidhneadh Gaidhlig. S aithne dhomh iomadh Gaidheal a dh'fhonaich sa fhuair an loidhne 'Madainn Mhath. Sorry but i don't speak Gaelic'.

Chan ann air na glanadairean a bha mi mach ach luchd-obrach is fiu's 'academics' a bhruidhneas gu tric ri oileanaich is daoine bho thaobh a-muigh.

Ma tha cuisean nas fhearr a-nis, gle mhath, bha lan thide aca a dheanamh.

 

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