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Published Date: 16 March 2007
A HOST of organisations, including independent schools, charities and even the Faculty of Advocates could be forced to conform to the rules of the Freedom of Information Act, it emerged yesterday.
The Scottish Executive intends to contact hundreds of organisations currently exempt from the FoI regime, and then decide whether to bring them under the provisions of the act.

Margaret Curran, the minister for parliament, announced the findings
of a review into the Freedom of Information Act yesterday. She said she would look closely at the fee structure but stressed she saw no need to introduce the sort of restrictions being considered by the government at Westminster.

Lord Falconer, the Lord Chancellor, wants a new charging regime for England, which would include the time spent by ministers and officials deciding whether to release the information requested as well as the cost of collating the information.

This could effectively give every official the go-ahead to delay and refuse any request that might prove embarrassing.

Lord Falconer also wants the cost cap of £600 - at which FoI requests can be rejected if they cost more than this to collate - to apply across all requests made by one individual or organisation in a particular period of time.

Ms Curran said she did not want to take this route, but would look at the detail of the fees regime before making a final decision.

Ms Curran did, however, announce that she would examine whether organisations currently exempt from the act might be forced to conform.

There has been controversy over the decision by Glasgow City Council to create a charitable trust, Culture and Sport Glasgow, to look after the council's leisure and sport facilities. As a charitable trust, it would not be covered by the FoI regime so nobody would have the right to demand information from it.

But sources close to Ms Curran indicated yesterday that she was prepared to change the law to include charitable trusts.

She will consult on a large list of organisations which were suggested by the public for inclusion in the FoI regime. Some - such as charities which receive public funds, private prisons, Network Rail, watchdogs and ombudsmen and Creative Scotland, the national arts body - are likely to be brought within the act.

But there are other organisations which have a strong case to remain outside the act, such as independent schools and even newspapers, both of which are on the list.

Independent schools are charities but do not receive much public money and most of that is in rates relief. Newspapers and broadcasters are private companies and it would set an extraordinary precedent if media companies were forced to conform to the act while other private companies were allowed to remain on the outside.

Ms Curran said: "FoI provides ministers with a power to bring other organisations which are not Scottish public authorities within the coverage of the act.

"It has always been our intention to use this power when appropriate and proportionate.

"The review did not provide conclusive evidence to underpin any decisions on changes to the fees system.

"It's important FoI strikes a balance between encouraging use of the act by the public while not imposing an unreasonable burden on authorities. We will be looking in more detail at how the fee regulations are working in practice across Scotland."

A spokesman for Kevin Dunion, the Scottish Information Commissioner, said he was pleased the Executive had not proposed any major changes to the fee regime, adding it "made sense" to keep the bodies covered by the act under review.



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  • Last Updated: 15 March 2007 11:09 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Freedom of information
 
1

Miss Jean Brodie,

16/03/2007 01:50:08

Freedom of Information?

Excuse me but . . . ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !

Ooops moderated again! no’ to worry the FoI tells me where ye live Hah ha ha ha ha ha ha !

2

Peter Cherbi,

Edinburgh 16/03/2007 02:24:08

The Law Society of Scotland and certainly the Faculty of Advocates could do with having their FOI exemptions revoked ...

I assume their Client Relations departments will start burning the files prior to such ...

4

Anne,

16/03/2007 06:19:42

#3 - you hit the nail on the head.

5

www.scottwebb.co.uk.,

16/03/2007 06:45:41

Comment@1 Miss, i have to join you in a hearty laugh with this story line :)

6

www.scottwebb.co.uk.,

16/03/2007 06:54:05

Meanwhile in the real world, stuff like this is the reality :) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article151...

7

Pete39,

Tassy 16/03/2007 06:58:18

Big deal, it just means that from now on, all files will be encrypted so if you want to read them all you have to do is find the guy with the key.

8

SouthernSkye,

Currently Köln 16/03/2007 07:08:48

#3.....
Exactly, I was just about to comment on the fact that the Exec. limited their own freedom of information rules only the other day.

9

Guga,

Rockall 16/03/2007 08:10:25

This whole FOI business is slowly turning into a farce. They are either going to cover their own backsides, as #3 has pointed out, or make it so expensive that ordinary people won't be able to afford access.

Here's a bit of free information, for free. Politicians are liars and charlatans; and they wonder why people have so much contempt for them.

10

SouthernSkye,

Currently Köln 16/03/2007 08:36:42

We should request a change to this headline from:

No hiding place as plans to extend Freedom of Information unveiled

To:

No hiding place (except as an MSP) as plans to extend Freedom of Information unveiled.

11

Toast,

16/03/2007 08:44:33

More smoke & mirrors,MSP's expences and junkets are the info. I want

12

www.scottwebb.co.uk.,

16/03/2007 09:03:16

Meanwhile the global enslavement agenda continues :) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/articl...

13

Cadgers,

Perth 16/03/2007 09:09:40

#3 Exactly.

14

Gerry,

Galway Ireland 16/03/2007 10:02:36

The Irish equivalent was enacted in 1997. The following is a list of bodies, government depts, local authorities, institutions covered as of 2005.
http://www.foi.gov.ie
The list is at #11

16

Richard Lionheart,

edinburgh 16/03/2007 10:28:40

Who are they trying to take the focus off of???

Seems like the only exempt ones will be those who should be accountable to the public. Our elected representatives!

Not unlike a dictatorship.

17

Paul Ventaire,

16/03/2007 11:24:44

#16. As you imply, the more incriminating the information, the less likely we are to get it.

18

I'm no really here,

16/03/2007 11:35:29

#6 Looks like George Orwell was just a few years out in his predictions.

19

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 16/03/2007 11:47:16

Guga, Hi there...
No hiding place as plans to extend Freedom of Information unveiled
HAMISH MACDONELL
SCOTTISH POLITICAL EDITOR
Have you checked out Hamish? Honest he is in the Immigrations, education, politic, consumers, typing, nurses’ homes and many places. I am beginning to wonder if Hamish is James Bond.
I mean this. He writes well, but never tells us what to do. At least he is in there the field where the players play so he ought to know the game better. He reports and hides. We have to dig out more information in the morning papers and evening papers and Sunday SCOTLAND TALIKING. He is there too.
And the best part is he is telling us we are hiding from freedom. Tell Mr. Bush there is no democracy in UK. He is the one who wants democracy all round the world in Arab lands also. Mr. Bush does not get along well with Mr. Blaire but Al Gore is talking about the ice melting. Perhaps his heart will melt and put the issue in the 11 Downing Street to go to the 10 Drowning Street, my spellchecker again. These power failures in Tz are bed very bad. Thank God we can right God in capital at times

20

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 16/03/2007 11:51:20

see I meant write it went light or rite

FoI regime. Some - such as charities which receive public funds, private prisons, Network Rail, watchdogs and ombudsmen and Creative Scotland, the national arts body - are likely to be brought within the act.
YOU ARE NOT HERE SO WHY COMMENT? YOU ARE NOT IN FoI regime. So You are no one?????Not even the erthling??? Pass the milk shake please I am thirsty.....

21

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 16/03/2007 11:57:06

"FoI provides ministers with a power to bring other organisations which are not Scottish public authorities within the coverage of the act.

"It has always been our intention to use this power when appropriate and proportionate.

"The review did not provide conclusive evidence to underpin any decisions on changes to the fees system.

"It's important FoI strikes a balance between encouraging use of the act by the public while not imposing an unreasonable burden on authorities. We will be looking in more detail at how the fee regulations are working in practice across Scotland."

If you can strike a goal you may stand a chance honest. This Ms Cuurran has not had the vaccination against the bird flu I am sure. Listen this another one who has chicken pox.

Kevin Dunion, the Scottish Information Commissioner, said he was pleased the Executive had not proposed any major changes to the fee regime, adding it "made sense" to keep the bodies covered by the act under review.
See. HE WAS PLEASED. HE WAS PLEASED but where do you stand? The Scotish public????

22

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 16/03/2007 11:58:47

Freedom of Information unveiled

SO WHAT IS FOI?
I see nothing but curtains here gates locked there, no windows or Vista now.

23

Anthony,

Glasgow 16/03/2007 12:52:10

This is the same executive that colluded with the lord advocate in concealing a vital report from their own justice 1 committee. This has more to do with pre-election panic than any committment to our rights as citizens. Sorry guys - way too little far too late.

24

Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 16/03/2007 17:04:30

The truth hurts and whether at Westminsteror Holyrood they simply do not want us to know the truth. Different when they want to know everything about us!! Refuse ID cards and don't give them access to your health details, They will flog them to Insurance companies and others and we will be sidelined!


 

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