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Published Date: 21 June 2008
GORDON Brown has been forced to delay ratification of the EU treaty until after the High Court has ruled on a legal bid to force a referendum.
Lord Justice Richards yesterday said he was "very surprised" that ministers appeared to be planning to press ahead with ratification before he hands down his ruling next week.

He called on the government to delay the process until ministers had heard his ruling on the application, by Euro-sceptic millionaire Stuart Wheeler, to have the decision not to call a referendum on the Treaty ruled unlawful.

Lord Richards made his statement after government lawyers wrote to the High Court on Tuesday saying the government was "now proceeding to ratify the Treaty of Lisbon".

"The court is very surprised that the government apparently proposes to ratify while the claimant's challenge to the decision not to hold a referendum on ratification is before the court," Lord Richards said.

The judge warned that if ministers ignored his call to wait, he would personally hear any application from Mr Wheeler for an injunction.

Mr Wheeler, who described the government lawyers' letter as "an insult to the court and to the people of Britain", welcomed the judge's direction.

Speaking at the EU summit in Brussels, the Prime Minister said: "The judgment fits into our own timetable, so ratification will not take place until we have had the judgment from the judge."

Mr Brown also used the summit to call for oil-producing countries to invest in Britain's nuclear power plants.

He suggested that huge sums of cash needed to be "recycled" from regions such as the Middle East for the sake of the world economy. Mr Brown said: "Our nuclear market is open. Of course you have got to bear in mind all the security considerations and the regulatory requirements, but it is open for people to invest in."

The Prime Minister is due to fly to Jeddah this weekend to meet the King of Saudi Arabia and other oil producers.

Meanwhile, Mr Brown defended Peter Mandelson, the EU trade commissioner, against claims by Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, that he was to blame for the Irish rejecting the treaty in last week's referendum.

Mr Sarkozy had been asked whether José Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission, was responsible for the Irish result, and replied: "We can't blame Barroso for this; choose another and a better one, choose a Mandelson for instance."

Mr Sarkozy linked Mr Mandelson's opposition to subsidies to starvation. "A child dies of starvation every 30 seconds and the commission wanted to reduce European agriculture production by 21 per cent during World Trade Organisation talks. This was really counter-productive."

Mr Brown insisted that Mr Mandelson was doing a good job. "We need this trade deal and he is pushing for it. We support him in the excellent work that he is doing," he said.

Mr Mandelson said President Sarkozy's attempt to blame him for the Irish rejection in a referendum last week was wrong.

"I am well used to Mr Sarkozy having some fun at my expense on these matters and I have broad shoulders and a thick skin and I think I shall survive. I think he is over-simplifying the argument, but he is also pointing his finger in the wrong direction."

As the row simmered, the treaty hit a fresh stumbling block when the Czech Republic joined Ireland in criticising it. It has asked its constitutional to rule on whether it impacts on national sovereignty.

Most other member states are pressing ahead with ratification of the treaty.

Future of reform thrown into doubt by Irish snub

When will the EU reform treaty be implemented?


That depends on whether Ireland has another attempt at getting voters to back it. It has passed through the UK parliament, but must now be formally ratified in Rome. Originally it was meant to come into force in January 2009 but that has been thrown into disarray by the Irish "no" vote.

What have other countries done with the treaty?

Ireland was the only country to hold a referendum. So far, 19 of the 27 member states have approved the treaty in some form. National parliaments have been urged to continue ratifying it, although the Czech Republic has sent it to the Constitutional Court to see what impact it would have on the country's sovereignty. No further decisions at an EU level are to be made until October.

What is happening in the UK courts?

Stuart Wheeler, a Tory donor, has tried to force the government into holding a referendum before the treaty is ratified. The government has argued the treaty is different to the EU constitution, on which it made its manifesto commitment to hold a referendum, but which has since been jettisoned. The High Court will make a judgment next week.

Are there other stumbling blocks?

If the High Court agrees with Mr Wheeler on a referendum, then this could further delay the treaty's ratification. The government is likely to appeal and argue that the treaty is different to the constitution, but the entire treaty cannot be implemented until all member states are on board anyway.

Why is Peter Mandelson, the EU's trade commissioner, being blamed for the Irish rejecting the treaty?

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, claims Mr Mandelson's stance on international trade, particularly his opposition to subsidies, upset Irish farmers. Mr Mandelson has said this is an over-simplification.

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  • Last Updated: 21 June 2008 12:01 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: European Union
 
1

Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 21/06/2008 00:43:18

ok we seem to have got him on this but when does he go before the Hague convention alongside Bush ans Blair charged with War crimes
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21/06/2008 04:08:13
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21/06/2008 04:24:34
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Non!!,

East Britain 21/06/2008 07:31:56
Sometimes even the courts get it right!!
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Alan, New Zealand,

Leeds 21/06/2008 07:44:05
1000 new Nuclear Power Stations in the hands of the already 'power'(Oil) rich nations, Brown really is mad.
Here are simpler suggusstions. Ban the manufacture and sale of all light bulbs that are not energy efficient. Likewise ban the manufacture and sale of all electrical products that don't have an energy efficiency rating of at least a 'C'. Finally, ban the manufacture and sale of cars that do not do at least 32 miles to the gallon.
There, wasn't that easy
Wake up world.
Last chance to save yourselfs.
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Alan, New Zealand,

Leeds 21/06/2008 07:50:07
Yes I know the last comment was not about the EU but it needed to be said. How about the EU, explaining the EU Treaty to all the people, then letting all the countries, ie people, to have a referendum. Surely if they explain it rather than some dopey Irish politicians we will all happily agree to their wonderfull plan to kill democracy.
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thinking,

Scotland 21/06/2008 08:29:15
#6
Haven't you read how dangerous the new energy efficient light bulbs are?
They contain mercury and if broken, windows should be opened and the room evacuated. In clearing up, vacuum cleaners should not be used, and the bulbs cannot go in with ordinary refuse.
It would seem they are all made in China so it is China that is reaping the benefits financially and we will incur the costs of disposing hazardous waste.
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Denis,

21/06/2008 09:01:48
It's one of the more minor EU deceits, but their claim that 19 countries have aleady ratified the treaty is simply not true.

Germany can't complete ratification because the President won't sign off the law to approve it until he hears from the Federal Constitutional Court that the treaty is compatible with the German Constitution.

Exactly the same thing happened last time, with the Constitutional Treaty, but the French and Dutch referendums intervened before the court came to any decision.

Similarly the Polish President is being slow to sign off the law, although not for such a clear cut reason.

In fact yesterday the Poles explicitly stated that Poland should NOT be included in the group of states which have ratified the treaty.

http://euobserver.com/9/26366/?rk=1

"The 27 EU leaders noted that the ratification process "continues in other countries", although the Czech Republic secured a special "footnote" reference to its specific situation.

The treaty is currently under scrutiny by country's Constitutional Court due to concern over the clash with the Czech Republic's highest law, its constitution.

During the debate, Poland also secured a slight change to the text. It stressed that Warsaw cannot be included in a group of those who have ratified the treaty. President Lech Kaczysnki is yet to sign the document - something that is also not entirely straightforward."

So one might ask why the German government is allowing it to be reported that Germany has ratified, knowing full well that this is not true, and that there is a real possibility that the Constitutional Court will raise objections to it.

There's a map here:

http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/countries/index_en.htm
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Fenland Farmer,

Cromwell's England 21/06/2008 09:15:23
I took the trouble to watch the Lord's debate on the Lisbon Treaty. Those who supported the treaty put forward the argument that it would strengthen Brown's hand when he joined the elite on thursday and friday ie show's what a fine chap he is. The elite could then discuss how the Irish got the wrong vote. The elite were furious with the Irish.
A Liberal Peer suggested that the Treaty was for experts to understand and not voters. (who had been mislead by the no vote brigade in Ireland).
In our range of voters we have people at the cutting edge of Science,Teachers to Farmers,Social Volunteers to Judges. None seemingly are able to grasp and understand the Lisbon Treaty.
At the next General Election these "Elite" politicians need to be burnt. Remove them all from office by vote of the people and send a clear message to the next lot wanting to play at Government..Watch it!
Well done the Judge and Ireland.
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No 42 days,

21/06/2008 09:21:22
Hopefully this won't be the last time Gordon 'the traitor' Brown awaits a court decision. I look forward to listening to his defence when he is tried for treason.
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

21/06/2008 09:43:30
Gordon Brown - Good for Scottish Independence !
12

Unimpressed one,

21/06/2008 09:43:42
#6, See the eco-bams are out in force. The ban, ban brigade. Is this on your sandwich board, "Wake up world.
Last chance to save yourselfs."? Idiot.
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bill-alba,

fife 21/06/2008 10:18:41
he also called on oil producing nations to invest in the nuclear industry...Mr Brown we are investing in your vision for nuclear power despite our parliament voting for NO new nuclear power stations in Scotland.
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 21/06/2008 10:49:32
I can't believe this failure of PM is openly inviting oil-producing countries to have us by the nuts on nuclear power as well. He seems to be sliding rapidly int a state of being unable to tell the difference between what's real and what's not. The "treaty" ratification rumpus proves that. There he is with a genuine smile for a change being patted on the head and told he's a good boy by Barroso et al, whilst denying us a chance to have a say then the Irish are vilified for taking a democratic decision! Madness, but clearly with a purpose to serve the power and money hungry EU empire.

Mandy couldn't be trusted with a whelk stall, like many of his comrade self-seekers.
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Char91,

Knutsford 21/06/2008 10:58:41
As the new Pigs-in-the-trough Communist Empire dragoons all its subject-slaves into its maw, remember what happened to the last one.

As voters, we need to insist on our right to vote. When that happens, corrupt as our own system shows itself to be, we will vote the EU and its unaccountable gravy-train overlords out.

I'm on the side of the millionaire. Let's hope the Judge reaches a wise verdict. It's time for the British to stand on our own feet again.

Mind you. There will be an awful lot of stable cleaning to do, and an enormous muck heap of ex-civil servants and ex-politicians to rot down. I suppose that would be ecologically sound?
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Robbierunciman,

Romney Marsh 21/06/2008 12:36:16
Interpreting complex documents is why we have MPs, this is an international treaty and well outside the judges competency.

Since when do judges make law, this is exactly why we need a written consitution. Judges interpret the law they do not make it.

On another note, does this Guy who brought the action pay taxes in the UK or Europe?
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ImReallyAnElf,

turriff 21/06/2008 13:32:26
I hate to say it, but this really is a time when I feel we can justifiably ask "Guy Fawkes, where are you now that your country needs you?"

Gordon Brown really needs to be euthanized before like any other rabid creature, he infects us all with his madness .. and arrogance.

The Treaty of Lisbon is bad (mad?) enough ... but more nuclear power stations??? With Chernobyl and the last few years Terrorist upsurge as a potent warning against just that sort of lunacy?

God help us.
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John M. Slusser II,

Nantwich 21/06/2008 13:50:31
I wonder if anyone at all is wondering, like me, if this the so-called "European Union" is nothing but a precursor to one-world government. I care not if I am branded a crack-pot, but I believe England, as well as all other nations on this planet, should remain firmly sovereign. The UK does not need trade agreements with anyone really, we can, if we would get off our collective bums, produce everything we need right here. We do not need trade agreements that will eventually lead to our sovereignty being taken away, and that is all the EU is, a cheap and quiet way to take away our sovereignty. Rule Britannia!!!
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Daveunderwater,

Auchter turra 21/06/2008 15:10:39
Will Gordon Brown have talks with Scotland/

After all we are his nearest oil producing nation.
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Daveunderwater,

21/06/2008 15:12:34
Referendums are part of the democratic process, if we are denied the right to a referendum our human rights are being violated.

What next martial law?
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No 42 days,

21/06/2008 16:21:40
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/210608Common.htm
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Uilleam Mor,

21/06/2008 16:24:34
Gordon Brown is a Prime Minister who has not had a mandate from the people.

He was not elected as Prime Minister but appointed from within his party and as his behavior showed last October when he shied away from an election he fears the people.

Indeed, such is his fear of the people that he will not give voice to a referendum on either Europe or Scotland's constitutional future.

Similarly, in the forthcoming by-election following David Davis's resignation, Browns's New Labour are not even going to field a candidate, and maybe the same in the by election on Henley on Thames.

Of course when viewed against a background of systemic and systematic New Labour sleaze, such as cash for honours, an illegal and ill conceived war in Iraq, et al, one does see just how corrupt things really are.

Like sheep in a pen really with pigs at the top. Truly Orwellian.
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Evia,

21/06/2008 17:41:23
4 Scott Webb

Very inter4sting. I listened to part of it and will listen to the rest when I can devote time to listen without interuptions.
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21/06/2008 17:56:40
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P. A, Krausz,

Lisbon 21/06/2008 18:18:07
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dropireland
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Jimmy the Pie,

21/06/2008 19:39:39
#31 P. A, Krausz,Lisbon

I've got just the place to stick your stinking petition.

Right up Manuel Barosa's jacksie.

WELL DONE IRELAND
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21/06/2008 19:58:31
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No 42 days,

22/06/2008 13:20:15
#30

I think we should drop the EU. Lisbon will become synonymous with Dachau and Auschwitz.

Barosso is a fascist dictator! I bet you EUrophiles have portraits of him hanging in your homes.
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WL,

livingston 22/06/2008 20:53:21
#20
MP's (including MEP's) are NOT trained to interpret complex legal documents. That is indeed something we should leave to lawyers.
Let the people have their say: a referendum in each EU country. If the politicians tell the people in an understandable language what the changes really are about, they have nothing to fear.
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What happens when the oil runs out?,

23/06/2008 00:12:19
Governments in Europe are over-run by failed lawyers.

cf. Beercanny MacAskill.

Supreme Courts are populated by learned legal practitioners.

Yay!
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23/06/2008 15:07:21
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Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

23/06/2008 15:48:25
It really IS time for us to have another revolution in this country.

This time tho it's not about the Royal Family, it's about Government and liberty and fairness.

Time for the British Public to turn the telly off, get off of their big fat r-ses and stand to be counted.

For Gods sake how long are we gonna put up with this craap?
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Sanny,

Upwey 23/06/2008 16:40:43
20 Robbierunciman

Quote/ “Interpreting complex documents is why we have MPs, this is an international treaty and well outside the judges competency.”\Unquote

I can only assume you haven’t met many MP’s, if you think they are competent in interpreting complex documents. They leave that to their civil servants who wrote the rubbish in the first place and who deliberately make it incomprehensible.

We need ALL treaties and international agreements and the law itself to be written in plain and simple language that can be understood by anyone with a moderate education - like the original Napoleonic Code. If those drafting these documents cannot achieve the required level of clarity then it is they who need to be replaced.
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Whoppitt,

23/06/2008 21:17:02
Robertruncieman and others have espressed the opinion that the treaty was too complicated to be decided upon by the voters. Well the Irish PM (amongst others) admitted that he hadn't read it or fully understood it. In that situation the "trust me" approach is fatally undermined and voting no is entirely rational.

There was no reason for the treaty to be so complicated. It was complicated because the politicians chose to make it so. The complicaiton was the consequense of the trade offs resulting from the politicians chosing to include the clauses regarding the transfer of power from the states to the EU.

The EU needed to be administratively reformed. It did not need to take power from the states. That was a choice.

A treaty that increased the democratic accountabilty of the EU institutions and smoothed out the administrive processes would have passed without comment - perhaps even a cheer! Obviously that would have meant forgoing the opportunity to smuggle through the constitutional bit.

 

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