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Published Date: 11 June 2008
COMMUTERS were today warned of a fresh round of tram line disruption as the roadworks move to one of the city's busiest junctions.
The Evening News understands that work to divert utilities at Haymarket will get under way next month and will continue until early 2009, without stoppages for the Festival in August.

Haymarket and West Maitland Street are among the last roads on
the airport to Newhaven route to have utilities moved and the work is expected to involve a series of diversions for buses and cars.

Full details of the diversions are still to be released by tram firm TIE, but they are expected to be fairly complex given the number of major roads which feed into the Haymarket junction.

However, the traffic situation will be eased by the fact that Shandwick Place is expected to be reopened to traffic by the middle of next month.

Tram chiefs are planning to close Princes Street to all traffic for up to seven months from January next year as well.

Driving groups today warned that continuing work through the Festival period will put extra strain on the city's congested roads.

Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, said: "This Haymarket section will be nowhere near as clear cut as Shandwick Place, it is a very heavily-used junction.

"This is probably the biggest opportunity they will have to get things wrong I fear, and I am appalled they will be working through the Festival when the city really does struggle to cope with the extra traffic."

The first major traffic diversions for the tram scheme were put in place in March, when Shandwick Place was closed for utility diversions. These works were expected to cause chaos but have passed off relatively smoothly.

Work on Princes Street to divert utilities will get under way in January, with buses, bikes and taxis diverted on to George Street for the duration of the scheme.

Charles Dundas, Liberal Democrat city centre councillor, said: "I think most people will agree that the diversions around Shandwick Place have caused a lot less disruption than we anticipated.

"On the basis of this and the work that has been done at the bottom of Lothian Road, then I think we can be cautiously optimistic that it will run as smoothly as these things can."

The entire trams roadworks programme will take more than three years and involves digging up the streets twice – first to move utility pipes, then to install the lines, stops and overhead wires.

A TIE spokesman refused to comment on the forthcoming Haymarket work ahead of the firm's official "traffic management" announcement.

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1

Council Insider,

Council HQ 11/06/2008 12:42:17
What a waste of money. Nobody wants them etc.etc.etc.
2

alex paterson,

embra 11/06/2008 12:43:37
Lets leave it until next month for posting.
3

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11/06/2008 12:44:03
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4

capy,

embra 11/06/2008 12:46:31
i dont care anymore be happy !!
5

Sarcasm,

11/06/2008 12:49:43
Christ help us when a tram runs over a dog.
6

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 11/06/2008 12:56:54
What can we say?????

Something might happen before then?????

and we are back to more consultations etc etc more money needed etc etc.....!!!
7

Arfur,

11/06/2008 13:02:58
Farce.
8

Bob 2,

11/06/2008 13:04:33
The End of the World was predicted when the West End was closed off, but according to TIE everything is running smoothly.

Anyway for all 26 users, get your sleeping bags out as the conversion of the Portobello roundabout to traffic lights starts this Monday.....

Remember the Milton Road Roundabouts last year, Traffic queued back to the east end of Portobello Prom.

Time to get the old push bike out again me thinks
9

alex patersons English teacher,

11/06/2008 13:05:01
2.

Promise?
10

Bob 2,

11/06/2008 13:08:05
Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, said: "This Haymarket section will be nowhere near as clear cut as Shandwick Place, it is a very heavily-used junction.....

has this man ever driven in Edinburghs west end....given that the west end junction feeds traffic to Lothian Road, Princes Street and Queen Street.

And heavens forbid, another change in Policy as they will be working during the festival.....things must be getting behind.

Let the Chaos begin
11

alex patersons English teacher,

11/06/2008 13:09:28
8
Ive seen the queues already,theres more than 26 people use the roundabout.
id say nearer 7362.
12

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

11/06/2008 13:15:55
Mayhem:

1 a: willful and permanent deprivation of a bodily member resulting in the impairment of a person's fighting ability
1 b: willful and permanent crippling, mutilation, or disfigurement of any part of the body

2: needless or willful damage or violence
13

Big Fi,

edinburgh 11/06/2008 13:17:05
Shandwick Place is wonderful at the moment. Shame it won't be car-less for long.
14

jude the obscure,

edinburgh 11/06/2008 13:18:13
Mayhem!?

the Scotsman should invest in a dictionary - mine says..

Mayhem
1. crime of willfully inflicting a bodily injury on another.
2. random or deliberate violence or damage.
3. a state of rowdy disorder.

I've just been down to Haymarket this lunch time and none of the above seems to be happening. Strange that.
15

loon fae the toon,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 13:32:40
#11 - I think he means people who use the number 26 bus!
16

Randan,

11/06/2008 13:46:00
Actually Mayhem seems spot on for the whole trams debacle.
17

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 11/06/2008 13:51:45
BUILD IT AND PEOPLE WILL COME........
18

Shave,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 13:55:04
#18 Randan

No ,it has over-run. It's now 'June-hem'.
19

Tr1xx,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 13:57:02
How about "Big STRAMASH looms as tram work reaches Haymarket"
20

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

11/06/2008 14:06:18
Yesterday a poster commented that trams "treat themselves to a few nice meals in restaurants that may be a wee bit pricey" and "buy that bit of clothing or gear you can't get elsewhere".

I would like to know more about this.
21

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11/06/2008 14:35:05
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22

PaulB,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 14:57:16
I hope the new 17 storey hotel at Haymarket won't get in the way of the new tram lines. And the real tram congestion is now at the new, mini-roundabout at London Road / Leith Walk - what a shambles they have made of that!
23

Andrew,

CUMBERNAULD 11/06/2008 15:06:38
21 Simply superb - but many will miss your pun on the word "sTRAMash"! Haymarket is usually BUStling too!
24

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

11/06/2008 16:41:31
No, nobody missed the pun.

25

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 16:54:25
It's to be hoped that Jenny MacArthur doesn't live anywhere near Haymarket or we'll never hear the end of it.
26

Niadh,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 17:05:58
Speaking of Jenny..
Where is she.
A tram story and neither she nor 20 something have commented yet about how wonderful and serene life will be in Edinburgh with the arrival of trams.
27

Evia,

11/06/2008 18:06:23
They should stop the whole thing now and write off the money already spent.

I have yet to meet someone who wants the trams and my circle of friends and acquaintances is very wide.
28

lachlan,

11/06/2008 19:17:12
do think you could get a tram system installed overnight.maybe the fairies could have done it.
look to the future.
29

Plantagenet,

11/06/2008 20:17:12
Och this is boring, no Jenny McArthur to fire pelters at, where is she? I had a dream last might that Jenny was tied to the tram rails, the first ever tram was hurtling towards her and I was the only one who could save her, what's that I hear you say? no don't be silly, of course I would save her.
30

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 20:40:20
#34. Aren't we looking to the past with trams. This will be proven to be Edinburgh councils crowning failure.
31

Applecrumble,

Balerno 11/06/2008 20:41:30
thats it. i'm boycotting the 44 bus. i'll get the 45 instead....
32

Axelfols,

11/06/2008 20:42:48
We need trams. 2 many buses, 2 many cars for roads to accomodate, blah blah blah. Put up with it or shut up or do us all a favour and move to Glasgow.
33

Euan,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 21:05:28
#33 has hit the nail on the head.

This whole tram fiasco should be halted NOW before any more damage is done to the City of Edinburgh and EVEN MORE valuable public money is simply poured down the pan.

Too obvious though, isn't it?



34

Ian down under,

Kawerau 11/06/2008 21:17:17
You cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs. Lets face it the traffic around Haymarket is a shmbles already, and that's using the fantastically efficient bus and car model which the anti tram dinosaurs seem to prefer.
35

tumshie heid,

11/06/2008 22:15:38
#40
Perhaps if the council hadn't created the congestion with their crazy one way systems, road closures and bus lanes that no one will drive in even when entitled to then there wouldn't be so many problems around town.
Every where you go now there are huge queues of traffic in the outside lane and no traffic in the inside.Why? Bus lanes.
Trams were outdated when they were scrapped last time around.Perhaps we should go back to the horse and cart?
36

Euan,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 22:40:01
#40

Drivel, nothing nore than pure and utter drivel.

How exactly is the traffic around Haymarket 'a shambles'?

I drive in and out out of this area several times EVERY DAY and as far as I can see the problems are exactly what #41 points out.

All the trams are going to do is make traffic managment in this area a nightmare.

Clearly you don't live, drive or work in Edinburgh and as a consequence have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

37

Plantagenet,

11/06/2008 23:32:21
41. What about bringing back horse-drawn trams?
38

Julian.,

edinburgh 12/06/2008 00:41:52
Euan,

I'm curious. What exactly is the purpose of coming on this site every week and calling for an end to the trams...other than letting off steam?
39

Peeter Reed,

Peterheid 12/06/2008 09:27:20
It's happening. Get over it. Channel your energies into something positive elsewhere
40

Niadh,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 12:07:05
#46
I am trying to be positive.
I am positively trying to bring an end to this debacle.
£500Million plus could be far better spent in these increasingly difficult times on things more appriate to sustaining the city/country through a recession.
41

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 14:29:16
#48, > It's happening. Get over it. Channel your energies into something positive elsewhere <

No. Channel your energies into stopping it. However much money has been spent, stop it. I wouldn't take the trams as a free gift.
42

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 14:32:32
> I'm curious. What exactly is the purpose of coming on this site every week and calling for an end to the trams...other than letting off steam? <

It's called protesting against folly and injustice. Protest long enough, and maybe somebody will listen.
43

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 12/06/2008 15:32:35
#33 Evia! Dahling! quote: "I have yet to meet someone who wants the trams and my circle of friends and acquaintances is very wide."
We should meet!
44

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 12/06/2008 15:53:24
#49 Somebody will listen? It's text! Yi cannae hear it. In my days, there was proper protest. Cracked nappers. Call yersel an Urban Guerrilla? Whassat? A clothes label?
45

Ian down under,

Kawerau 13/06/2008 22:44:33
Some of the antitrammers must live on another planet. Trams are used in major cities worldwide--Why?? Easy, becuase they WORK. Cars cause congestion and belch fumes and need car parks to sit in all day. Buses can be useful where there are only a few passengers but in busy routes they are noisy, fume belching oil guzzlers. Electric trams can run on 'green' fuels. We can choose to run power stations on hydro, wind, wave or anything else so they will not become obsolete but the buses and cars stop when there is no oil.
Also if you moan about a few roadworks for trams then how will you feel if we stick to cars and buses because you will need roadworks a thousand times bigger to put in a network for of motorways for them. You will also need to lose a lot more businesses to make space for the car parks.
My only gripe is that the trams should have gone underground at Roseburn at least as far as the London Road roundabout, running directly under the streets and with a stop at the Waverley itself. This would be even more efficient and would pave the way for an eventual underground rail system to add on to it. They could also extend to Musselburgh via Newcraighall, the old Lothian Lines and the old Musselburgh rail branch before heading through the town to Wallyford, and interchange with mainline trains.

 

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