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Published Date: 16 June 2008
CITY leaders are putting five plots of council land up for sale in a bid to raise £10 million to help pay for the city's tram line.
The land flanks the Newhaven to airport route and will mainly be sold for housing as council chiefs look to make up the city's £45m contribution to the tram scheme.

Among the plots earmarked to be sold off is waste ground at Broomhouse Drive and
Bankhead Drive, a former lorry park off Constitution Street, an old bus garage off Leith Walk and land around Balgreen Primary School.

It is not thought that any of the sales will prove controversial, though some councillors have raised concerns about selling off land when the market is weak. The plots will be sold through the council's arms-length development company EDI, which will apply for planning permission for the sites with a view to getting a better price than the council could itself.

Councillor Phil Wheeler, the city's transport leader, said: "These five sites were identified because they are in prime positions next to the tram route, which should increase their value.

"The council has a duty to the public to get the best deal and working with the EDI Group will ensure that the maximum financial potential is realised."

Conclusion of contracts for the trams last month saw the overall price tag for line 1A jump from £498m to £512m, with a further £3.2m penalty to be paid to contractors if the council does not commit to line 1B in the next ten months.

However, the latest price increases still leave the project within the overall £545m available for the scheme.

Councillor Nick Elliot-Cannon, the SNP's finance spokesman, said his party was still uncomfortable with selling off council land to pay for the trams, although he added that council chiefs are doing the right thing in terms of trying to maximise the amount it will raise.

He said: "We are where we are and I guess we just have to get on with it.

"It is not a great time to be selling right now with the slowdown of the property market but these are viable sites and they will still attract a good price."

The deal proposed by council chiefs will see EDI given the option to buy the plots of land or help sell them on the open market, assuming the plots are granted planning permission.

Cameron Stott, director of property experts Jones Lang LaSalle, said: "It is good to see that EDI is being utilised in this manner."

He added: "This approach will maximise the value of the site by giving EDI the opportunity to develop and crystallise the land value, and any potential profit, by obtaining planning consent.

"Despite the slowing market, there will be interest from developers in this land, particularly given the sites' proximity to the tram line."

The proposals will be discussed by the council's finance committee tomorrow.





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1

Linda,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:09:45
SNP spokesperson is right, if Council is selling off land this money should be used for Education or other front line services.
2

Jams,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:12:29
So EEN where can we find out exactly which bits of land they are to sell and whether they actually own all of them? Given the current Chambers St fiasco and the Council's past record on common good land I would be interested.

I confess a vested interest in the Balgreen proposal as most of the land around the school is currently greenery so any change to housing sounds like a reduction in local amenity.

Perhaps the next wave of primary / nursery closures will show their real intent.
3

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:12:43
Expect normal planning rules to be bent to allow these sales to go through. Just like has already happened with much of the tram farce with Edinburgh being adjusted around the tram, rather than the other way about.
4

abcd1234,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:13:44
As someone living in the area close to the bus depot, I am delighted to hear that it will probably end up as 'affordable' housing. I would suggest that the area bounded by Broughton Road, Pilrig St, Leith Walk and Annadale St is the most developed area in Edinburgh so it's just what we need. Lots and lots of flats but no other amenities oops sorry I forgot we have a Tesco metro now.
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16/06/2008 13:14:37
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Bob 2,

16/06/2008 13:21:28
Hold on.... didn't they say that the Council Taxpayer wouldn't have to contribute towards the Tram line.

So here we are £10m of Council Taxpayers land being sold off.....why couldn't they have been sold, and the £10m used towards NEW SCHOOLS or Road Improvements.

Better still get EDI to flog off the land for Housing, but apply to yourself (the council) for planning permission).

Sounds dodgey to me
7

Bob 2,

16/06/2008 13:41:45
planet earth
8

NorT,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:43:21
#2 - You can find the report about the sale of land by following this link:
http://cpol.edinburgh.gov.uk/getdoc_ext.asp?DocId=112768
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Disgruntled Black cab customer,

16/06/2008 13:57:07
Lets face it the people of Edinburgh have given the council permission to do anything they want, the vast majority do not want this oversized train set but as we sat back and did nothing to stop it, these councillers feel they have the power to do anything.
10

Leila,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 14:25:34
As usual it comes down to priorities: which is more important to Edinburgh Council - schools or trams? Obviously trams. Some of our schools desperately need money spent on them, and the councillors wring their hands and say sorry, we can't afford to improve or rebuild schools, but they'll sell off land to pay for trams, no problem at all. What I wonder is, when they've sold off all the "surplus" land and there's STILL not enough money to pay for trams, what will they do then?
11

Edinburgh 100,

Musselburgh 16/06/2008 14:54:12
So the supposed EDI (arms length my a**). Will sell the land at a better rate when we have

House builders using massive incentives to sell houses they have already built. House builders with land banks either moth balling them or selling them of. We have the credit crunch. The end to 100% mortgages. The land to be sold "should" be more valueable because it is next to a tram line. What planet are these people living on. No wonder there is financial mismanagement in local government. The tram was badly planned and finacialy bankrupt to start with but hey lets plough on. Edinburgh city dwellers stand by for a massive council tax bill.
12

Beavers,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 15:10:54
Despite the fact that a large amount of trees and wildlife are about to be chopped and driven away by the tram lines at the enbankment running along Baird Drive the council now want to sell of the former allotments site directly on the other side of the rail tracks.
How long has this been in the planning does anyone know...
13

Scotish Exile,

16/06/2008 15:11:11
They don't have much option, they have to press on with this expensive train set and they ahve to fund it some way, expect more of this to pay for this nonsensical waste of money, now where's my car keys, must expand my carbon footprint!
14

Jams,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 16:46:26
#10 - thanks very much for the link - they kept this quiet didn't they !

The Balgreen site is the former allotments which the council shut down in order to provide a route for the tram (or guided busway as it was at the time). They then changed the tram route to suit the SRU putting it into the back gardens of the people of Baird drive. The area is alive with wildlife and provides a natural buffer between the main Glasgow railway line and the school.

Isnt there a shortage of allotments in the city ?

The fact that these plans will mostly see green open spaces accessible to the public and develop them is a travesty when the council is blocking development of brownfield sites across the city through their near comedic planning department. I bet these schemes just sail through with one or two token mutters and a bloody windmill getting added.

What will these people do when they have sold off all of the family silver ? Follow Mr Aitken's lead and leave the council for pastures new ? There one that knows a sinking ship when he is on it.
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A. Puschkin,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 17:09:28

They will have to keep some milllions in reserve as a taxi driver's wife told me a few weeks ago that the tram -works in leith walk wre causing problems to the buildings in Leith walk.

Is this a fact?

Can the Evening News find out - it is rather important .
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Mallory,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 17:09:34
Didn't think they had any green space or park land left to sell after the previous mob gave away so much for so little. And how much of the promised contributions to the Trams Project have in fact actually been handed over to date?

A good question to ask the developers at Quartermile and Fountain North (aka Springside)

Will the land sales be put out to tender as required by the EU or will we be faced with yet another behind the scenes cozy deal?

Who is valuing the land and where is it?
17

It's me!,

16/06/2008 17:21:23
We should fight long and hard to prevent the sale of the Balgreen/Pansy Walk area. It is full of greenery and wildlife which should at least be returned to allotments where they formerly existed. It is a haven for the residents. Try somewhere else to make a quick buck! And make sure the council actually owns the land. Council vandalism!
18

Dragonlord,

16/06/2008 17:29:23
18# The problems were reported at the time . Subsidence and cracks in buildings, where test holes were being dug. Now they are giving away land!! When will someone with the courage to stand up and say enough is enuogh.
19

Jams,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 17:36:04
Suggest EEN send their photgrapher round to the site at Pansy Walk (Balgreen) - looks like they have already started clearing it. Maybe the council are trying to head off any argument that it could still be used as allotments by turning it into a building site before they apply for planning permission.

They would fine any developer trying a stunt like that, but then why would they want to fine themselves ?

Come on EEN - tomorrows front page :-)
20

Jams,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 17:39:05
How about the headline "Lie detector to catch out suspected Council Cheats".

You can bet that they wouldn't like it - but then again they believe the nonsense they spout so it wouldn't really be lying to them.
21

Dragonlord,

16/06/2008 17:45:01
23# How about lie detector tests for those in charge of TIE? Now that is something I would pay to see.
22

Euan,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 18:02:37
When many of our local schools are in a dire financial state and three of them earmarked for closure before Christmas what do the council do?, sell off available land to pay for a toy tram line.

This is an act of the utmost disrespect to the local community.

We are seeing businesses going under, our streets being dug-up and trashed, traffic problems beyond any normal comprehension and to top it all, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF POUNDS of valuable taxpayers money being poured down the tram drain.

The ignoramuses in charge of this fiasco should be held fully accountable for what they are doing to this City and made to pay with their jobs.

This whole tram project is fast becoming Scotland's national disgrace and should be halted with immediate effect.



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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 18:06:05
This isn't the first sell off, land was reported as being sold off last year.

This is the family silver being sold off to support a tramline that no-one except a very vocal minority seem to want.

Shame on SNP Executive for rubber stamping when came under pressure from other parties in the parliament.
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fedup edinburgh mum,

16/06/2008 22:18:28
This councils lies are eventually coming to the surface. The Spartans land sale was 1million (i think) short, to re-vamp Commonwealth Pool. Did anyone know that this sale was going towards this. How can anybody start a project on an assumption of what the land will sell for. If this is how this council works, it's no wonder the city is in a mess.
Also I was interested to hear at the debate about the Trams, one councillor (was in back room so don't know who) say that the money for the trams was only used for trams and she would rather it went to Edinburgh, than maybe doing up the A9. I've been on the A9 and I'd rather see that made more safe.
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Julian.,

edinburgh 16/06/2008 23:05:26
Euan,

Yes, you forgot to mention that those schools being closed are running at 30% capacity at God knows what cost per pupil to the taxpayer. And I thought you were against the council wasting money.

I'm glad to see though that you didn't forget your usual mantra and called, for about the hundredth time, for an end to a project which quite obviously won't be halted.
27

Bravetart,

16/06/2008 23:21:47
If this goes the way of other council sell offs then the land is worth £10m but is yours for 50p and a packet of crisps.
28

Applecrumble,

Balerno 17/06/2008 04:08:17
No. 1 - remember who it was that started the trams fiasco - NuLabour dug their claws in too deep before the SNP got into power - and remember they ar ea coalition government with Westminster on their backs.

SO FOR ALL YOU POLITICALLY CORRECT FREEDOM OPPRESSERS OUT THERE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE BLAMING THE OPPOSITION AND MAKING YOURSELVES LOOK STUPID!!!
29

Bertie The Bat,

17/06/2008 08:13:32
Let the train take the strain.
30

jdships,

17/06/2008 08:14:04
This is the family silver being sold off to support a tramline that no-one except a very vocal minority seem to want.
Remember that "FS" can only be sold once !!


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Concerned of Leith,

Leith 17/06/2008 11:51:20
When promoting the 'benefits' of trams, tie mention that, "Residential and commercial properties may see prices increase beside tram routes. In some cities with trams, house prices have risen by up to 15% and rental prices by up to 7%.".

If this is a 'benefit' of having the trams, why aren't the Council leading by example and reaping the 'benefit' by selling the land at the best price available?

Don't even start me on whether the Council should even be selling the land in the first place!
32

PeterPete,

17/06/2008 12:06:45
All the usual ill-informed, ignorant, fact-twisting nonsense in all these posts. Nothing changes. Give it a rest......

The simple fact is, Edinburgh overwhelminly voted for trams by returning a majority of pro-tram councillors. Selling off some land to invest in the long-term future of the city is hardly a bad thing. Better that than spending it on keeping open half empty schools.

Live with it.

When the price of petrol tops £9 a gallon, we'll be glad we have the trams, and we'll wish we had built more when we had the chance because we won't be able to afford any more.
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Julian.,

edinburgh 17/06/2008 12:43:30
PeterPete,

"fact-twisting nonsense"

So the fact that the majority of councillors are in favour of trams means the majority of voters are as well? That's not a twisted fact, it's not even a fact.
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Concerned of Leith,

Leith 17/06/2008 15:41:29
Julian, I couldn't agree more. Councillors select opinions and justify them on the basis of 'qui tacit consentire' or 'silence gives consent'. Relying on the apathy/ignorance of 'the majority' to justify their stance.

If you believe that any politician truly reflects the opinions of their electorate rather then pursuing a path most likely to enhance his/her own advancement - try contacting them and asking them to change their opinion based on your reasoned judgement.

At no point was Edinburgh/Scotland given the opportunity to 'explicitly' vote for or against the tram line.
35

Ian down under,

Kawerau 19/06/2008 04:51:17
I think we should advertise for a large number of counsellors, psychologists and psychiatrists to help the poor tormented souls who now seem to have a clinical tramphobia and this is obviously disrupting their lives to the extent that a hole in the road [they happen in other streets too by the way] sends them into deep depression.
Why are such safe, effective and proven environmentally friendly vehicles creating such panic and misery.
They don't bite, they aren't vampires or daleks, they don't spread antisocial diseases, they don't eat babies or old people. They are quite simply a sensible option for public transport in a city the size of Edinburgh. In conjunction with longer distance trains and local buses they will make mobility much easier for a lot of people. Yes the roads need some work to accommodate them but if the pipes etc are at risk from the trams then you can bet they would be at risk from lorries and buses so would need repairing anyway.
Have you not heard the old saying 'You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.'
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27/06/2008 12:03:56
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