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Published Date: 09 June 2009
THE first set of rails for Edinburgh's £545 million tram project are expected to be laid this week after being delivered to Princes Street.
The rails, which had been expected to go down in Leith first, were unveiled by tram chiefs yesterday, with work to fit them set to start on Friday.

Contractors have already dug a trench in the road and are currently installing the sleepers on whi
ch the rails will run.

Those behind the project remain confident that the work in Princes Street will be completed by November, with track laying in Leith Walk now set to begin in September.

Steven Bell, director of the tram project, said: "We're on track for delivery in November. As ever, some weeks we will end up ahead and others behind, but we are doing all the right things for November completion.

"When you look at the project as a whole, there are parts that are a number of months delayed, but we are trying to recover and mitigate that. Princes Street is the key artery for the city, so it is particularly important that it is completed on schedule."

Councillor Gordon Mackenzie, the city's transport convener, said the arrival of the tracks was an "extremely significant milestone."

He said: "I'm was very confident this day would come and it's all the better that it's here now. People have been frustrated because of the roadworks, but I think this will be a turning point.

"People recognise the significance of this, but it will take time before there's a huge amount of progress. We will get Princes Street finished by November and we're currently in discussions with the contractor about the project as a whole, so we won't know until later in the summer what the overall profile of the project is."

The tracks, which are being supplied by Austrian firm VAE, arrived by ship at Leith docks in November last year. They were expected to be laid in Leith Walk and at Stenhouse earlier this year but a series of delays with utility diversions has meant the date has continually been put back.

Alan Rudland, chairman of the Leith Business Association, said there was a perception that work on some parts of the route was being sacrificed in favour of Princes Street. He said: "Once again playing second fiddle – we're the poor relation down here.

"There are work sites on Leith Walk where we're seeing little activity because workers are being reallocated elsewhere."



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1

Yonthing!,

09/06/2009 11:17:40
Installation of the tram was originally reported as causing "minor disruption". OK, we all know that's not been the case.

HOWEVER, if you go and look at the engineering works in Princes Street, how could anyone ever have thought this would be minor disruption. The entire length of the track is a two foot deep double width trench where they are now laying two steel reinforced concrete bases on which the sleepers sit. It has taken 5 months to get Princes Street to this stage.

Just wait until the rest of the City gets closed!

Minor disruption! Bah! Those who signed us up for this mess should be sacked.
2

Statsman,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 12:13:39
Useless council. No this is not a turning point. It is just the start of more agony.
3

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 09/06/2009 12:13:50
Close the City until the job is completed.
4

Mallory,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 12:16:54
But this is only one small part of the story. Foundation for the tracks, then the track rails must be laid, then pantograpohs and finally power lines. Meanwhile is damage happening to the cellars in George Street?

Maybe the EN should ask the George Street Association about this.
5

Skip McClendon,

09/06/2009 12:19:49
Great...the first actual, real evidence that we are urinating upwards of half-a-billion quid of public money up the wall on this ill-conceived, terribly executed vanity project.
6

thehitmaster,

Penicuik 09/06/2009 13:12:27
Boats are to be introduced as well, going by the volume of water pouring out the ground outside M&S at lunchtime and filling in the large area dug out by the workers - or maybe its a new home for the ducks! Not a workman in site though, obviously too busy admiring the new track at the other end of the street..
7

Foo,

09/06/2009 13:29:54
Fantastic news. I feel I speak for the majority of Edinburgers when I thank everyone at TIE for their hard work, and we all look forward to seeing the trams up and running soon!
8

Foo,

09/06/2009 13:34:19
I'm sure the trams will work a lot better than the EEN website which, at the best of times, is slow and poorly designed.

However today the site's a mess. Sack your web team now EEN and get a decent bunch in who know what they are doing.
9

pongo2009,

09/06/2009 13:37:09
This has taken months for a road which previously only carried buses and taxes, "conveniently" diverted elswhere, with the Mound apart minimal Victorian utilities only serving one side of the road.

This is not even a token achievement. Come back when you have done Leith Walk on time, on budget.

Ooops, can't
10

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09/06/2009 13:41:11
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Hoof Hearted,

Potato 09/06/2009 13:48:30
#5.
"pantograpohs"???? WTF?
12

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09/06/2009 13:53:42
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totally indecent,

09/06/2009 13:54:17
9 - Ay
14

PaulB,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 14:09:40
Congratulations to the tie team and others for reaching this milestone. It is proof the TRAMS ARE COMING and real progress is now being made. Only in Edinburgh would people criticise an investment of this magnitude - bunch of whingers!
15

bill inch,

EDINBURGH 09/06/2009 14:18:09
How much more will it be in litigation after the street party
16

Foo,

09/06/2009 14:18:48
Ah, a new stalker.

Hi fooo.
17

antifa,

09/06/2009 14:24:34
15 - indeed. Particularly weird as 90% of the funding comes from the Scottish government.
18

Statsman,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 14:52:51
15 PaulB

The tram overspend will be hundreds of millions of pounds funded by the Edinburgh taxpayer via their council tax. No one picking up the tab has a right to complain about it?
19

Leila,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 15:19:18
#18: surely you're not saying it's free money if it comes from the Scottish Government?
20

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09/06/2009 15:36:24
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09/06/2009 15:38:42
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Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 16:36:56
Many posters above seem to think that this supposed 'milestone' in the laying of tracks on Princes St is good news - however, it is far from what could ever be called a 'milestone' and is certainly not good news.

The blinkered and foolish continuation of this insane project only signals even more misery and destruction for the citizens of Edinburgh in the long term.

So far, not only have we seen local businesses being run into the ground and effectively sacrificed to the tram works, we have seen unprecedented and reckless disruption to Scotland's capital city.

Edinburgh citizens are appalled by having to watch the slow, sad decline of it's award-winning local bus company, Lothian Buses, which is being bled dry by the tram project, now and even more so in the future.

And not forgetting the fact that as this project is running tens of millions of pounds over budget, it is local taxpayers who are going to end up paying through the nose for something they never needed or wanted through increased council tax and even more cuts to vital everyday services and amenities.

This is nothing short of an absolute disgrace and all those people who have involved themselves in this ridiculous project one way or another should hang their heads in shame.

23

Linmal,

Livingston 09/06/2009 16:47:16
Although I no longer live in Edinburgh, I spent the first 20 years of my life in Edinburgh and I hate what is happening to my beautiful city. I have yet to meet someone who thinks trams are a good idea. But it is happening and let's just hope that it will start to progress now. Maybe it will be worth having (personally don't think so) but it's too late now to complain and no-one seemed to listen before anyway as this whole debaucle proves.
24

PaulB,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 16:50:29
#24 - aye - we are all doooommmmmmmeeeeeeed! might as well not do anything except moan and whinge - it's what this city is famous for! Bring on the Trams!
25

Andrew Kent,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 17:05:39
To be honest there are only about three people in Edinburgh who actually want the trams as far as I am aware. Everyone I have spoken to about the project has been against it. It sickens me what is being forced upon our city and every time I hear of more money being wasted my blood boils. I am sure that is what many other people are feeling.
26

Hornby should build the tramline,

09/06/2009 17:12:19
28 - i second that

i am in fervent opposition to the trams, hence the screen name - hornby could have built it for a few hundred quid, yes all 16 miles of it - and those pretty 1:72 scale trees would have amounted to pennies as well
27

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 17:12:33
#27

Can't wait to see the 'hissy fits' that you have when the bus routes that you claim to use so regularly are axed due to budget cuts to help pay for the trams.

Your blinkered, foolhardy support for the tram project is staggering Tony.


28

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 17:17:49
#28

The tram project makes me feel exactly the same as you Andrew - sickened.
29

Hornby should build the tramline,

shunned in favour of the scalextric 09/06/2009 17:23:04
and yet it is reported that a couple million will be saved by closing down 4 primary schools - that is utter peanuts compared to the money involved here. surely something could be arranged to sell the tram mock-up to a less fortunate country in the world? We sell our "surplus" electric railway locomotives to places like romania, the decrepit poorly designed railbus passenger trains (wiki 'uk class 141') are sold to iran - and people wonder why theyre angry at the world. better still, stop the whole damn thing!
30

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 17:39:51
#34

Trying to change the subject at hand and then blame the SNP now Tony? Whatever you try and do, you can't avoid plain, hard facts though can you?

I think that as a LRT user, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

The bus company that you currently use to get wherever you're going (ie soup kitchen, Royal Edinburgh Hospital), is staring at a very bleak future - and it's all down to the tram project.

How can you possibly lend your support to a project that is going to suck practically every available penny out of our once-profitable local bus company?

Shame on you Tony.


31

Mèths,

09/06/2009 17:45:32
"The arrival of the tracks was an "extremely significant milestone."

... and the whole tram project is an extremely significant millstone.
32

Mèths,

09/06/2009 17:48:11
34 Gorgie_Toley

Utter tosh sir.
33

Mèths,

09/06/2009 17:49:16
We want the trolley-bus. It would have saved on the rails.
34

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 17:55:41
#37

I recommend you definitely hop on a bus to The Royal Ed Tony, I think you've (once again) missed your medication.

Would love to see the look on your face when you realize just how much your council tax bill is going to go up to help pay for your beloved tram project - on that occasion I think you'll be going back to The Royal Ed for something a little stronger..

Once again, shame on you Tony for your blinkered support of this disgraceful, ill-conceived vanity project.
35

Mèths,

09/06/2009 17:58:51
Trams fur bams.
36

Mèths,

09/06/2009 17:59:33
It will all end in tears.
37

Mèths,

09/06/2009 18:03:18
"At 8.45 a.m. yesterday morning the latest in a long list of accidents involving the Vélez-Málaga tram occurred and three people were injured. This was the 13th accident since the tram was inaugurated in October 2006.

The tram was about to leave the Jurado Lorca de Vélez stop to make its way to Torre del Mar when the brakes failed and caused it to roll backwards onto the second set of tram lines which are not yet in use. After rolling around 50 metres and hitting three parked cars in Calle Magallanes on the way and shoving them onto the pavement, the tram crashed into a lorry. The tram took the lorry, which was stopped on the tram lines not in service to unload flour for a local bakery, another six metres and only stopped when the lorry hit an electrical tram power deposit further down the street."

http://www.surinenglish.com/20090526/news/costasol-malaga/13th-velez-tram-accident-200905261217.html
38

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 18:28:31
#43

My glass is always half full Tony and I'm very optimistic about the future and I embrace progress - whatever you may think of me.

I do not however, condone the blatant squandering of hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers money on a project which is totally un-needed and very much unwanted.



39

animmo,

09/06/2009 18:35:30
Should've invested the £545million in developing teleportation instead
40

The Judge,

09/06/2009 18:40:46
How many times have we seen a story in the EEN telling us they're about to lay some tracks?

I take it they're finished in Leith Walk then or didn't the bother to lay tracks down there?

At LEAST a year behind schedule and MANY millions of pounds overbudget. Thank you Steve & The SNP Group, I hope your 4 years in power was worth it.

Ding Ding only 15 months till opening day...
41

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 18:40:56
#49

I ain't insulting anyone else but you Tony.

Don't worry!
42

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 18:50:03
#52

Tony, I've been properly insulting you for about two years now and have never had to admit to anything.

What's the problem this time?, can't take a dose of your own medicine? (whoops!)

Scrap the trams.
43

Goat Boy,

09/06/2009 18:56:34
Gorgie_Tony. Have you taken some sort of illegal substance today?

What ever it was, it appears to have done some serious damage to your brain.
44

Goat Boy,

09/06/2009 19:34:51
56: Wrong!
45

rabmataz,

the bog 09/06/2009 19:48:15
I'm about to lay some cable, I bet the EEN doesn't report that. And it won't cost millions that I don't have.
46

Jimbo doin' limbo,

under a pole 09/06/2009 21:08:56
I'm just grateful that you Edinburgers agreed (via your City Council) to pick up all of the overspend on this project should it occur.

Most generous of you ;)
47

Hornby should build the tramline,

09/06/2009 21:15:54
gorgie tony - everybody is against you, mental disorderws (or whatever your nurse tells you you have today don't enter into it. You're a TUBE. If only it was a viable career then you wouldnt have to scrounge off the job seekers allowance.
48

Foo,

09/06/2009 21:18:03
This is interesting...

Gorgie_tony and Euan in an argument.

In terms of nastiness this has to be along the old 'when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object' thingy.
49

Hornby should build the tramline,

09/06/2009 21:20:44
like a lothian bus at tram utility works?? LOL
50

Foo,

09/06/2009 21:25:21
58 rabmataz

Haha, thank you! Comment of the month!
51

logic says cancel!!!!,

09/06/2009 21:33:07
i think tie are insulting the inteligence of the public by thinking just cause a track is laid there opinion and support will change for this project.Do they not realise that most ppl probably like trams, but as has been expressed by most of the public towards the mps expenses=waste of tax payers money on unnecessary luxurys=(trams).there opinion will not change because it is exactly the same thing as the expenses fiasco. We ,thats is scotland as a country, have missed a great opportunity to bring our small country into the 21 st century , this would have been achieved by building a rail link to the airport, linking the capital to the rail network benefiting all of scotland .With glasgow getting a link to its airport in the nexr few years for the games, how good would it have been for scotland as a whole and what a step in to the future that would have been , not a step into the past with trams.those who support the trams do so selfishly and small mindedly,like those councillors whose blinkers stopped a project benificial to all of scotland for a 12 mile tram which will benefit a small percentage of this city,enviromentaly the train idea would win hands down , how many car journeys are made to airports every year from all over scotland , i rest my case
52

Foo,

09/06/2009 21:43:37
64

Grammar and punctuation are two friends you should meet.
53

logic says cancel!!!!,

09/06/2009 21:44:02
foo , even you must agree ,that a rail link would have been a better option at first, even then the next step ,building to make the rail link into something similair to amsterdam, a wee hub, getting of the edinburgh to glasgow train at the airport, or the aberdeen to london train, what a dream , i hope fifty years from now in the next economic boom , we dont expand the tram we take the first step towards this goal,
54

logic says cancel!!!!,

09/06/2009 21:44:32
if the tram is still around that is ,lol
55

Foo,

09/06/2009 21:46:07
66

Yeah, but that can still happen. Trams can run on rails and there is an existing circular in Edinburgh already.
56

logic says cancel!!!!,

09/06/2009 21:48:51
i would love that to happen mate , that would be a great step lets keep our fingers crossed," integration for the nation", not just the city.lol
57

tumshie heid,

09/06/2009 23:17:51
Tony @#29 Is that why you hang about Gorgie then? To get a ride on an old tram.
You haven't had a ride in years and even then it was a dry one.
58

Julian.,

edinburgh 10/06/2009 00:23:55
Goat Boy,

"56. Wrong" Bottom deck is best then???

EUAN,

And how much is our council tax going to rise by in order to bring GT to tears?

And would you still say that the current tram LINE's future is looking more and more precarious and predict that the project will never be completed at all?
59

retiredscot,

10/06/2009 03:55:30
Aye! Tram Milestone the Princes Street tracks may be but how many 'Re-dos' will be done in the next 15-20 years before they tear all of it out and call it a wash?! How much subsidence will all this eventually cause to the whole town and the Historic Buildings? Worthless tosh is all it is. Trams were tried before and failed----know ye all! Cluttering the Historic views with miles of overhead wires will look MUCH worse than the artist's renderings the Tram peoople showed ye. Edinburgh has Been Here before!!
60

easts_mat,

Sydney 10/06/2009 05:19:17
Quit your whinging people. you can't stop progress. The trams are a plan for future growth in Edinburgh. Not just for today's city. Edinburgh is only going to grow, so the time is now to expand the necessary infrastructure. I only wish the NSW government in Australia was as forward planning as the ECC.
61

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 07:02:04
53 Euan

Well said - the trams should be scrapped. But Gorgie Tony, Foo, Julian and the other two tram nerds (all of whom I'd wager work for TIE) are right ... The trams are coming and they can gloat right now.

They are gloating over a vulgar waste of taxpayers money during difficult times, the defeat of common sense, a 'victory' over democracy and the introduction of an outdated and inflexible infrastructure 'solution' which will need to be ripped out at some stage soon after it is built ... again at vulgar cost.

So let us finish Gorgie Tony's sentence for him ...

'The trams are coming ... and soon they'll be gone again!'

But hey ... some councillors and senior council staff got their brown envelopes and the gravy tram they wanted and they got the public back for not voting for the congestion charge ... !
62

Euan,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 07:14:33
#72, Julian

I still stand by my statement saying that the tram project's future is looking very precarious indeed and that it may never be completed at all.

10m of tracks being laid on Princes St or not, I still think it is not too late to scrap the entire project and cut our losses.








63

Euan,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 07:15:13
#75

Well said.
64

Foo,

10/06/2009 09:02:45
Voldemort

It's funny watching you grasp at straws. You get your ass handed to you in the debate so its all 'emm, emm, all pro tram people MUST work for TIE, and emm, they're all grand wizards emm and masons and emm its all a big conspiracy to make Edinburgh into a giant tram station emm and it'll lead to the rise of the Kracken'

Don't you get tired of getting pwned on a daily basis?
65

coreservers,

never ever on a tram 10/06/2009 09:58:22
Tony, you claimed earlier that "only 3 people were against the trams". strange that there are more than 5 times that on just this small forum.
But it;s ok you;ll just ignore the facts to suit yourself. your insanity probably places you in senior managment of TIE I'd imagine. Oh by the way, there are no top decks on these trams, but I'd gladly see you and the test of tie rise amongst the live cables!
66

Skip McClendon,

10/06/2009 10:45:46
#81

PLEASE don't get him started on his "insider knowledge" which came "straight from the horse's mouth" about how the trams will have a top deck...

 

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