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Published Date: 16 March 2009
THEY are perhaps more instantly recognised today as Dr Who's time-travelling Tardis.
But police in the Capital are about to turn the clock back more than 40 years by bringing police boxes back into use.

The Lothian and Borders force sees the iconic boxes – forever associated with the Dixon of Dock Green era of the 1950s and 60s –
as an ideal way to provide a more visible presence in the city centre.

The boxes would be manned at busy times, allowing members of the public to report crimes and hand in lost property.

Beat bobbies would be able to take a tea break or fill out paperwork without returning to the station.

The boxes would have to be renovated as they have lain empty for at least 20 years.

One has already been refurbished in the Grassmarket thanks to a city council grant as part of the area's redevelopment.

Police have earmarked five others at busy spots around the city centre and more might be identified in future if the initiative proves popular.

Inspector Gavin Phillip, sector inspector for the West End, who is hoping to secure funding for the project, said: "We are looking at five of the boxes we want to spruce up. In addition to use by police officers, they could also be used by partners such as community safety wardens.

"Over the summer, when the visitor numbers increase, they could be a point of contact for the public. They could be manned at busy times of day. It's a key part of visibility and providing reassurance.

"Obviously things have moved on from when they were last used but they could still be used by officers on the beat. There's very limited space inside the box but there's space for filling in forms or potentially handing in lost property.

"It's still at a very early stage of development but I don't think we would need huge sums of money."

The police boxes date from the 1930s and at their peak in the 1950s and 1960s there were 86 scattered around Edinburgh. Twenty years ago they fell into disuse. In 1995, 33 of them were sold off and many are now run by the Police Box Coffee Company. A total of 21 of them are listed by Historic Scotland.

Old Town community councillor Bill Cowan said many residents and shopkeepers were keen to see them brought back into use.

He said: "I think it's a brilliant idea. It's got great public support. It makes the police more visible, and there's also an element of nostalgia. It's like seeing a policeman on a bicycle."

• www.lbp.police.uk



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  • Last Updated: 16 March 2009 2:27 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh policing
 
1

Tartan Viking,

16/03/2009 10:53:40
The boxes would be manned at busy times......my a*se. They will be fitted with CCTV to spy on you. Just like everywhere else in the Orwellian land we live in.
2

ddmc,

16/03/2009 11:15:53
bringing back police boxes, you'll be bringing back trams next, am i stuck in the 1950's ?
3

The Ayrshire Bard,

16/03/2009 11:21:49
The box that used to be at the end of Market Street must have been a Tardis as it used to hold more fruit and veg than some of the warehouses.
4

Ecce,

Edinburgh 16/03/2009 12:29:30
Hope they remember the poor specimen rusting away on Easter Road.
5

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 16/03/2009 12:34:14
I have been beat up in a few of these medievil boxes,but i have changed.
6

The Judge,

16/03/2009 12:37:38
Well they need somewhere to eat their Greggs.

"I think it's a brilliant idea. It's got great public support. It makes the police more visible, and there's also an element of nostalgia. It's like seeing a policeman on a bicycle."

Someone remind Bill they don't have windows so the police are anything but "visible".
7

elayne,

16/03/2009 12:46:40
perfect if police are caught short while out on beat
8

S'me,

Edinburgh 16/03/2009 12:49:30
and Why Not...
9

Mallory,

Edinburgh 16/03/2009 12:54:18
If the polis simply use them to drink tea and have a whazz they won't be much use. I suppose they could provide some shelter from the elements but there is little room for the bicycles.
10

Embra boy,

Edinburgh 16/03/2009 13:00:01
Sounds great to me - the boys on the beat will have a choice of coffee, muffins, shortbread. I presume they'll be keeping the California Coffee House fittings?
11

Police Box,

16/03/2009 13:07:48

Always got to get the buzz word "partners" in.

http://police-box.blogspot.com/
12

elayne,

16/03/2009 13:44:51
they DO actually have toilets in police boxes do they not?great!go to the loo,do paperwork and have a cup of tea,all at once
13

Daft Old Git,

16/03/2009 14:24:26
Wonder if someone will get promoted out of this original idea
14

Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 16/03/2009 14:48:53
#12 I don't think there are loos in there. As far as I know it's a telephone, a handbasin with a cold tap, a bench seat and a couple of shelves.

And the gaggia coffee machine and mood lighting of course.
15

Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/03/2009 15:17:49
Doesn't someone come up with this new idea every two years? And then someone else points out that they are already in use as coffee bars.
16

rozzerwatch,

16/03/2009 15:34:27
#15 - Cops have been telling successive imported Chief Constables and heirarchy (including your hero Paddy Dumpling!) that what was needed was more emphasis on preventing crime and more concentration on putting officers IN the community, on the street. Hopefully that is now beginning to happen and the wrongs introduced by knee jerk politiking are being put right. There was nothing wrong with traditional methods but I fear it may be too late. I hope I'm proved wrong.
17

calum,

16/03/2009 15:57:51
#12 - It works like this - 1 foot on the bench seat at the back, 1 foot on the stool ......p1sh in the sink. Easy as that. Trouble is that all these police boxes were built when the street was patrolled by policeMEN and the policeWOMEN worked at the HQs. Nowadays the Diversity Police would object.
18

Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/03/2009 16:01:53
#16 Haha, Paddy Dumpling, brilliant, you slay me with your wit and repartee.

You don't like "imported" CCs? So you believe that every force should appoint only from within its own ranks? How exactly would that work then? Ridiculous, ill-thought through idea.
19

rozzerwatch,

16/03/2009 16:20:12
#18 Paddy is the first Chief Constable to retire from an Edinburgh post without a knighthood. Clearly, politicians and royalty weren't too impressed.
As for "imports", I really would have preferred a Chief Constable who used the proper leagal terminolgy obtaining in Scotland - "Burglaries" and "arson" are English crimes, from a system which is foreign to us here, but he kept on using the terms. Imagine having a Chief Constable who is familiar with Scots law, eh? Too revolutionary for you, Duncan? Still, at least he concentrated on things which were important to him - diversity, diversity and .....oh, yes, diversity.
Crime, drugs, HOUSEBREAKINGS, WILFUL FIRERAISING, Hamesucken, Stouthrief ....well, they are all in the too hard to do basket for a politically minded mandarin.
20

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 16/03/2009 16:34:10
will they be painted pink like the one in niddry,that should go well with the rainbow flag at fettish,oh sorry fetes
21

Boy Wonder,

16/03/2009 17:16:02
Perhaps the Tardises (Type 40?) will whisk the cops back to a time when they were EFFECTIVE???
22

The real dracula,

16/03/2009 17:21:22
You lot are so delusional about police work ( and no Im not in the police but occasionally come into contact with them thru my job) , they are anything but coffee drinking , pie/donut munchers. Indeed many police I have come across have not only worked over their shift but have done so with little or no break.

Many a time they cannot guarantee to finish their shift at the proper time due to the behaviour of rowdy annoying wasters and often supposedly respectable citizens who have had too much to drink.

Would any of you who work accept that you couldnt finish work at your allocated time or have a break , I very much doubt it. Same goes for ambulance service if they are due to finish at say 7pm and they get a call at 6;55pm they have to attend , that call may take hours.
I wish some of you know it all armchair observers would go and work a shift with either of the services and see how derogatory you are after that.

Bet it wouldnt take you long to moan you were treated unfairly.
Same with hospital staff apparently doctors and nurses are not supposed to have a break like the rest of you ,,,,,,what are the emergency services , superhuman ???
No they are human beings like the rest of you , they need breaks , they need the toilet , they get tired etc etc,,,,,bear that in mind when you moan , you wouldnt last one shift in any of their shoes and all you can do is whinge and be ungrateful.

Jealousy i believe , for the ones who are working just cos you have a boring , mundane job and the ones that dont work , well ,,,,,,,,,
23

Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/03/2009 17:39:00
#19 So you didn't understand what burglary and arson meant? Or were you just finding something to complain about? Honestly, it sounds like the most pathetic, childish complaint in history, and certainly doesn't demonstrate anything about his grasp of Scots Law.

Did you get overlooked for a promotion? Was a woman promoted ahead of you? Did you complain loudly in the canteen about political correctness, and harbour a bitterness which you've never managed to shake off? Do the achievements of others make you feel frustrated at your own lack of success? Would you like to buy a Paul McKenna tape?
24

elayne,

16/03/2009 17:44:56
#17...p*sh in the sink!(sounds like my work)
25

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 16/03/2009 18:46:54
#23 Duncan

You're absoloutely right. Paddy didn't need to know anything about policing in Scotland or Scots Law. As long as he slavishly followed the line of his Labour Party bosses and parroted the right PC nonsense he was bound to get on. Shame about the knighthood though, he'll just have to buy one like all the other NuLab apparatchiks.
26

Andrew,

16/03/2009 18:51:20
I hope they don't put an old air-raid sirens back on the top! They used to scare me s*itless!!!! I remember the day (early 1980s) when they all went wailing-off by accident/short circuit or whatever! There was a run on toilet rolls and underwear in M&S, BHS, Littlewoods & Jenners that day, I CAN TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
27

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 16/03/2009 19:01:38
#26 yes they really made a din,i remember spike milligan on hearing one asked his father what it was,his reply was "its a jewish funeral son,quick get out the begging bowls"
only spike could get away with that one,i remember during the early 70s ,the one at the bottom of our street was tested,boy was it loud,but the old coffin dodgers thought hitler was back again
28

rozzerwatch,

16/03/2009 19:44:36
#23 Oh, dear. Duncan, I thought you would rise above personal insults and innuendo but never mind.
It is important for a Chief Constable in Scotland, and particularly in Lothians, to have a good grip of Scots Law because under that same law he is a Constable with the same powers to discharge his duty as any other. The senior imports have not attended even a basic course at the Scottish Police College. If he doesn't know what the basic law of the land is to begin with then, well, you can see how disadvantaged that makes him.
The Lothians in particular, because that Chief Constable has to discharge several functions under Scots law at both criminal and civil level which are peculiar to Edinburgh only. But I suppose you know that.
As for your silly questions, no I've never been passed over in my job, I achieved my level of success and the best boss I ever had was a woman....so far.
29

James (1),

16/03/2009 21:38:58
#28 Duncan is sticking up for Paddy cause he championed the diversity clap trap. Gays, Lesbian, Black, Transgender all got a head start because for too long they had been ignored. Duncan is in one of those groups so Paddy could do not wrong. The force is now wasting thousands of pounds (after the millions already wasted on diversity)paying that token gay Chief Inspector (another tick in the box)to do anything but police.
Am I right Duncan?
30

Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/03/2009 22:20:12
#28 Of course it's important for the CC to understand Scots law. You might want to read my comment again. I pointed out that using two words wrongly does not evidence a lack of knowledge of Scots law.

What is it that you really have against Paddy? That he was English? That's pretty sad for you.
31

Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/03/2009 22:23:21
Interesting you should bring that up, my homophobic friend. The chief inspector you refer to was employed under Strang, not Tomkins. Still, I'm sure you'll pour opprobrium on anyone who champions fairness and equality, no matter where they are from.
32

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 17/03/2009 01:34:17
#29 why isnt anyone sticking up for the new minorities-hetrosexuals
hetrophobia is rife,we have went from being the majority,to the new minority,the amount of hetrophobia that sometimes screams from these articles replies is bad
just by naming the groups you did will have the hetrophobes foaming at the mouth
33

rozzerwatch,

17/03/2009 06:34:53
#30 Duncan, there you go again, guessing. English? Why should that bother me? Many of my best friends are English. You're always looking for some "issue" or hang-up that someone may have.
As for Paddy, he's actually quite a nice guy, he was just not a very good police officer and way out of his depth as a Chief Constable. That's nothing to do with liking but everything to do with competence.
And if I recall correctly, Duncan, you championed the cause of "inequality" in these forums some time ago. As for the officer referred to by James, he's a decent guy as well, but by his own admission, not a very good cop either. And the interesting thing about his appointment is that there are no powers for any other organisation in the police to negotiate anything or represent anyone other than the Scottish Police Federation ....and that, my friend, is the law, whether Paddy liked it or not.
34

Duncan in Edinburgh,

17/03/2009 08:27:30
#32 Lovely - if you don't like a word, redefine it. Oh, and the spelling you're looking for is "hetero", from the Greek "heteros" meaning "different".

If you really think that heterosexual people are now a minority in Scots society, you must look at the world through a very warped glass. And if you think that heterosexual people are being discriminated against, then I can tell you with some certainty that you have never truly experienced discrimination, and you don't know what you're talking about.
35

Duncan in Edinburgh,

17/03/2009 08:30:26
#33 You'll excuse me for pointing out that the opinion of an anonymous commentator on a website that Paddy Tomkins was "incompetent" is of very little import in comparison to the opinion of his various employers who have promoted him to a series of extremely senior positions.

I would suggest to you that you are in no position to judge his competence. And that you come across as a bitter, unfulfilled person who delights in doing down the achievements of others.
36

Steve-o,

Edinburgh 17/03/2009 08:31:08
If the one by the entrance to the Telfer Subway had been in use perhaps that poor woman wouldn't have been attacked in broad daylight a few weeks ago.
37

Wingman,

Edinburgh 17/03/2009 09:15:15
Dear EEN--- Not in this online article but is in the paper, you refer to the square at the Tron as Tron Square, this is incorrect the square at the Tron is called Hunter Square, Tron Square is off the Cowgate accessible from the rear of Siglo...
38

rozzerwatch,

17/03/2009 16:39:36
Duncan, I don't know if you'll come back to read this but I'll post it anyway.
I do not have any pre-conceived agenda about anyone (and that includes you) and I judge a person's professional ability on factors other than gender, race and orientation.
I am not in the slightest bit bitter about anyone (and that includes you) and I judge them on how I find them. I reserve the rightn to do that.
Paddy is, as I said earlier, quite a nice guy, but in my opinion was not a good Chief Constable and he took his eye off the ball operationally. Whether you accept that or not is not important but years of experience and professional qualifications entitle me to make my judgement. Yours is based on.......?
39

James (1),

17/03/2009 16:49:06
#31 Can I point out my heterophobic friend that Paddy started all this urine of PC diversity brown stuff and that the Chief Inspector, one of your persuasion, was not promoted from Constable to Chief Inspector at one go. He was aided by our Paddy (most likely to get a tick in a diversity box) and once the force bought into the hype he can now do no wrong. He will be more protected now than a black lesbian police officer. (ps why do you use unusual words which seems qu eer to me? Is it to show how well educated you are even though you are quite removed from reality)

 

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